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make -C doc/misc ede.pdf

There are lots and lots of _extremely_ overfull lines, due to the way
the "Inheritance Tree" sections are typeset. This essentially makes the
manual unprintable. There needs to be a different way to insert the
inheritance trees that does not use so many levels of indentation.

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Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes:

> make -C doc/misc ede.pdf
>
> There are lots and lots of _extremely_ overfull lines, due to the way
> the "Inheritance Tree" sections are typeset. This essentially makes the
> manual unprintable. There needs to be a different way to insert the
> inheritance trees that does not use so many levels of indentation.

It apparently uses a bunch of nested tab;es for this, and tables indent
quite a lot.  Is there a different construct that could be used that
doesn't indent as much?

Here's an example:

@table @asis
@item Inheritance Tree:
@table @code
@item eieio-speedbar
@table @code
@item eieio-speedbar-directory-button
@table @code
@item @w{@xref{ede-target}.}
@table @code
@item @w{@xref{ede-proj-target}.}
@table @code
@item @w{@xref{ede-proj-target-makefile}.}
@table @code
@item @w{@xref{ede-proj-target-makefile-objectcode}.}
@table @code
@item @w{@xref{ede-proj-target-makefile-program}.}
@table @code
@item ede-proj-target-makefile-shared-object
No children
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table
@end table


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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 15:47:59 +0200
> Cc: 14716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
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> It apparently uses a bunch of nested tab;es for this, and tables indent
> quite a lot.  Is there a different construct that could be used that
> doesn't indent as much?

An @image?

I don't think Texinfo can express tree-like structures in any other
way.  But the right place to ask this is on the Texinfo list, not
here.

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