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threads - par-map - multicore issue

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Package: guile; Reported by: David Pirotte <david@HIDDEN>; dated Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:02:02 UTC; Maintainer for guile is bug-guile@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#14756: threads - par-map - multicore issue
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On Tue 21 Jun 2016 10:33, ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:

> Andy Wingo <wingo@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> I see this, but I'm not quite sure what's going on.  What I do see is
>> that par-map of 1+ on a list is horribly slow, both on 2.0 and master.
>> Ludovic do you know what's going on here?
>
> As David put it, only one core is being used, which is clearly a bug.
>
> I believe the bug was introduced by
> 8a177d316c0062afe74f9a761ef460e297435e59 (however, before that commit,
> you would hit a stack overflow when doing =E2=80=98par-map=E2=80=99 on a =
large-enough
> list.)

Given that Guile 2.2. doesn't have a stack limit problem, I have
reverted this commit on master (though I kept the tests).

FWIW Guile 2.0 with this test

   $ time ../guile-2.0/meta/guile -c '(begin (use-modules (ice-9 threads)) =
(par-map 1+ (iota 40000)))'

   real	1m45.282s
   user	1m45.208s
   sys	0m0.036s


Guile 2.1.x with the stack-limit stuff:

   $ time /opt/guile/bin/guile -c '(begin (use-modules (ice-9 threads)) (pa=
r-map 1+ (iota 40000)))'

   real	0m51.738s
   user	1m2.720s
   sys	0m0.116s

Guile 2.1.x after reverting the patch:

   $ time meta/guile -c '(begin (use-modules (ice-9 threads)) (par-map 1+ (=
iota 40000)))'

   real	0m1.403s
   user	0m1.396s
   sys	0m0.024s

Note that I took a zero off the original test in all examples above.
However!  I still have the problem that mostly only one core is used.  I
would imagine that is because the thread that builds the spine is more
costly than the threads that actually do the workload (the 1+ in this
case).  But maybe that is wrong.  Certainly there are improvements that
can be made in the futures implementation in 2.2 with atomic boxes.

Andy
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Andy Wingo <wingo@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I see this, but I'm not quite sure what's going on.  What I do see is
> that par-map of 1+ on a list is horribly slow, both on 2.0 and master.
> Ludovic do you know what's going on here?

As David put it, only one core is being used, which is clearly a bug.

I believe the bug was introduced by
8a177d316c0062afe74f9a761ef460e297435e59 (however, before that commit,
you would hit a stack overflow when doing =E2=80=98par-map=E2=80=99 on a la=
rge-enough
list.)

What happens is that =E2=80=98par-mapper=E2=80=99 creates nested futures wh=
ose
dependency graph forms a comb-shaped tree; thus we quickly hit
%MAX-NESTING-LEVEL.

This is fine in itself, but for some reason, it ends up evaluating most
of those futures in one thread while the other threads apparently remain
stuck in =E2=80=98wait-condition-variable=E2=80=99 in =E2=80=98process-futu=
res=E2=80=99.

I=E2=80=99ve looked into it a bit but that needs more time=E2=80=A6

Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Subject: Re: bug#14756: threads - par-map - multicore issue
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I see this, but I'm not quite sure what's going on.  What I do see is
that par-map of 1+ on a list is horribly slow, both on 2.0 and master.
Ludovic do you know what's going on here?

Andy

On Sun 30 Jun 2013 20:00, David Pirotte <david@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hello,
>
> 	guile --version
> 	guile (GNU Guile) 2.0.9.20-10454
>
> It seems that the par-map not using all cores problem has some how been reintroduced?
>
> 	guile -c '(begin (use-modules (ice-9 threads)) (par-map 1+ (iota 400000)))'
>
> only uses 1 core [it seems it uses some other [maybe all, i can't tell] a couple of
> milliseconds, then drops to 1 core only.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> ;; -- 
>
> david@idefix:~ 16 $ guile -c '(begin
>>     (use-modules (ice-9 threads))
>>     (par-map 1+ (iota 400))
>>     (display (current-processor-count)) (display "\n")
>>     (display (length (@@ (ice-9 futures) %workers))) (display "\n"))'
> 12
> 11
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Hello,

	guile --version
	guile (GNU Guile) 2.0.9.20-10454

It seems that the par-map not using all cores problem has some how been reintroduced?

	guile -c '(begin (use-modules (ice-9 threads)) (par-map 1+ (iota 400000)))'

only uses 1 core [it seems it uses some other [maybe all, i can't tell] a couple of
milliseconds, then drops to 1 core only.

Thanks,
David

;; -- 

david@idefix:~ 16 $ guile -c '(begin
>     (use-modules (ice-9 threads))
>     (par-map 1+ (iota 400))
>     (display (current-processor-count)) (display "\n")
>     (display (length (@@ (ice-9 futures) %workers))) (display "\n"))'
12
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Acknowledgement sent to David Pirotte <david@HIDDEN>:
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Report forwarded to bug-guile@HIDDEN:
bug#14756; Package guile. Full text available.
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