Received: (at 16533) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 01:31:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 25 20:31:48 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1W7EZg-00027d-4p for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:31:48 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1W7EZd-00027S-5q for 16533 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:31:45 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1W7EZc-00006K-EE; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:31:44 -0500 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#16533: 24.3.50; "s" no longer works as documented in dired References: <m2fvoeusk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <dbnz2m5wr.fsf@HIDDEN> <p4zjmmkr7c.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2y525waxs.fsf@HIDDEN> <c9y525s014.fsf@HIDDEN> <8361p8cnll.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: diwn UNSCOM $400 million in gold bullion Semtex credit X-Ran: ZdpRR"+[uuwa&TVN4vEFO(M+keHUp/"Yo:y-(%wx1I'()?s?Iy:m<u#wNk@M*RebJSc&55 X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:31:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8361p8cnll.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:22:46 +0200") Message-ID: <j7y523le9r.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16533 Cc: 16533 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, markus.triska@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The problem here seems to be that dired-sort-toggle blindly adds the > "-t" flag to dired-actual-switches, although in this case the sorting > is not by date at all. I don't understand the logic here; it seems > like dired-sort-toggle assumes without testing that the directory is > sorted either by date or by name, which is of course false. > > Is it a portable assumption that the last switch that determines the > sorting order overrides all the previous ones? If so, ls-lisp.el > should be fixed to implement that requirement. But if not, we need to > fix dired.el not to put more than one sorting option into > dired-actual-switches. In particular, the logic in dired-sort-toggle > seems to be flawed. Duh, I seem to have been very thick here, since the original report seems clear now. I guess I missed the 'then press "s"'. I guess it is not a portable assumption, since presumably whatever crappy ls Mac OS X uses does not work that way. Prior to r101356, dired-sort-toggle removed dired-ls-sorting-switches. Now it seems not to. That change was made to fix another bug, http://debbugs.gnu.org/6987
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writes: > > > What is the value of dired-use-ls-dired? > > Its value is nil.
When I start dired after "$ emacs -Q", it displays: > > ls does not support
--dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more details. > > Following the instructions
in the documentation of `dired-use-ls-dired', > I tried Emacs's own emulation
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> From: Markus Triska <markus.triska@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:23:43 +0100
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> Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > What is the value of dired-use-ls-dired?
>
> Its value is nil. When I start dired after "$ emacs -Q", it displays:
>
> ls does not support --dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more details.
>
> Following the instructions in the documentation of `dired-use-ls-dired',
> I tried Emacs's own emulation of "ls" by evaluating (in "$ emacs -Q"):
>
> (setq ls-lisp-use-insert-directory-program nil)
> (require 'ls-lisp)
>
> The original problem shows up with this emulation as well.
Aren't you using ls-lisp emulation by default? What does the
following produce in "emacs -Q"?
M-: (featurep 'ls-lisp) RET
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Glenn Morris wrote:
>> This works as expected in Emacs 22.1.1, where "s" then sorts by date.
>
> I don't understand.
Oh, I see. Works for me.
What is the value of dired-use-ls-dired?
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Full text available.Received: (at 16533) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 03:10:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 22:10:15 2014 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1W6X9r-0005ud-Cn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:10:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1W6X9p-0005uU-P2 for 16533 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:10:14 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1W6X9o-0002AB-U7; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:10:12 -0500 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Markus Triska <markus.triska@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#16533: 24.3.50; "s" no longer works as documented in dired References: <m2fvoeusk5.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: AVN Semtex BLU-114/B Ft. Meade basement strategic X-Ran: ]6+qTm.q,a>Rx0,!/T\)pW/,#)MpM2VBI~>7}/9G([,zL2@hKooxtzCHr~OW)~>4PS*0U- X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:10:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <m2fvoeusk5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Markus Triska's message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2014 01:33:46 +0100") Message-ID: <dbnz2m5wr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16533 Cc: 16533 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Markus Triska wrote: > When I do: > > $ emacs -Q > > and then view my home directory in dired with: > > C-x C-f RET > > and then list all files in decreasing order of their file sizes with: > > C-u s S RET > > (making the switches read: "-alS") > > and then press "s", dired says "Dired by date" but still orders by size. So is the complaint that it says "Dired by date"? I can't reproduce this. > This works as expected in Emacs 22.1.1, where "s" then sorts by date. I don't understand. "-alS" means ls should sort by size. Sort by date would be "-alt". > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) > of 2014-01-04 on mt-imac.local
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