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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Such a function could return a flat list of (key-sequence . binding). > Maybe loops from describe-map-tree/describe-map could be reused, > but with accumulating the result instead of printing. 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Yup. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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There is no function to get all commands from the given > keymap only? No, I think we should add a function like that. Shouldn't be too difficult. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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> >> format-spec is a nice helper. Here are the changes after
> >> the value of %k is automatically generated from the keys:
> >>
> >> emoji-zoom-increase:
> >> OLD: Zoom with + and -
> >> NEW: Zoom with +, -
> >>
> >> indent-rigidly:
> >> OLD: Indent region with <left>, <right>, S-<left>, or S-<right>.
> >> NEW: Indent region with TAB, <left>, <right>, S-<left>, S-<right>
>
> Lars> I think the final ", " in these lists should be an " or " instead -- I
> Lars> think that reads better.
>
> Yes
Should then describe-repeat-maps do the same and replace this
next-error (bound to n, M-n)
previous-error (bound to p, M-p)
with
next-error (bound to n or M-n)
previous-error (bound to p or M-p)
Then also should repeat-echo-message-string use "or" and replace
Repeat with n, M-n
with
Repeat with n or M-n
But doing this is problematic since when repeat-exit-key is defined,
it will also replace
Repeat with n, M-n or exit with RET
with incorrect
Repeat with n or M-n or exit with RET
> >> global-text-scale-adjust:
> >> OLD: Use +,-,0 for further adjustment
> >> NEW: Use +, =, -, 0, ESC for further adjustment
> >>
> >> ESC is because map-keymap handles only top-level keys
> >> but C-M-+ is [ESC C-+].
>
> Lars> Hm. We don't have any function that'll just spit out all the "real" key
> Lars> binding in a keymap somewhere? I.e., that results in a list with keys a
> Lars> la what's displayed by `C-h b'? I guess not, but that sounds like a
> Lars> useful utility function to have, and could be used here.
>
> I think the guts of `describe-repeat-mapsʼ does something like that.
I forgot that describe-repeat-maps uses where-is-internal.
But I don't see how repeat-echo-message-string and set-transient-map
could use where-is-internal without iterating a huge list of all commands
from obarray. There is no function to get all commands from the given
keymap only?
BTW, now I fixed describe-repeat-maps to handle the case when the
keymap is not a symbol, e.g.
(put 'next-line 'repeat-map (define-keymap
"C-M-a" #'next-line
"C-M-b" #'next-line))
Also pushed new args of set-transient-map, so the same improvements
are needed for both repeat-echo-message-string and set-transient-map,
maybe by sharing the same code.
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>>>>> On Tue, 05 Jul 2022 13:15:42 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN=
> said:
Lars> Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes:
>> format-spec is a nice helper. Here are the changes after
>> the value of %k is automatically generated from the keys:
>>=20
>> emoji-zoom-increase:
>> OLD: Zoom with + and -
>> NEW: Zoom with +, -
>>=20
>> indent-rigidly:
>> OLD: Indent region with <left>, <right>, S-<left>, or S-<right>.
>> NEW: Indent region with TAB, <left>, <right>, S-<left>, S-<right>
Lars> I think the final ", " in these lists should be an " or " instead=
-- I
Lars> think that reads better.
Yes
>> global-text-scale-adjust:
>> OLD: Use +,-,0 for further adjustment
>> NEW: Use +, =3D, -, 0, ESC for further adjustment
>>=20
>> ESC is because map-keymap handles only top-level keys
>> but C-M-+ is [ESC C-+].
Lars> Hm. We don't have any function that'll just spit out all the "re=
al" key
Lars> binding in a keymap somewhere? I.e., that results in a list with=
keys a
Lars> la what's displayed by `C-h b'? I guess not, but that sounds lik=
e a
Lars> useful utility function to have, and could be used here.
I think the guts of `describe-repeat-maps=CA=BC does something like that.
Robert
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Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion
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>> OTOH, there are messages like "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"
>> have not only a prefix, but also a suffix.
>
> Perhaps the MESSAGE should be a format-spec string? So the caller could
> say "Use %k for further adjustment" and have the keymap description
> inserted at the %k. That should be plenty flexible.
format-spec is a nice helper. Here are the changes after
the value of %k is automatically generated from the keys:
emoji-zoom-increase:
OLD: Zoom with + and -
NEW: Zoom with +, -
indent-rigidly:
OLD: Indent region with <left>, <right>, S-<left>, or S-<right>.
NEW: Indent region with TAB, <left>, <right>, S-<left>, S-<right>
text-scale-adjust:
OLD: Use +,-,0 for further adjustment
NEW: Use +, =, -, 0, C-+, C-=, C--, C-0 for further adjustment
global-text-scale-adjust:
OLD: Use +,-,0 for further adjustment
NEW: Use +, =, -, 0, ESC for further adjustment
ESC is because map-keymap handles only top-level keys
but C-M-+ is [ESC C-+].
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diff --git a/lisp/international/emoji.el b/lisp/international/emoji.el
index 27b725b0aa..a129656d2b 100644
--- a/lisp/international/emoji.el
+++ b/lisp/international/emoji.el
@@ -709,10 +709,7 @@ emoji-zoom-increase
"Increase the size of the character under point.
FACTOR is the multiplication factor for the size."
(interactive)
- (message
- (substitute-command-keys
- "Zoom with \\<emoji-zoom-map>\\[emoji-zoom-increase] and \\[emoji-zoom-decrease]"))
- (set-transient-map emoji-zoom-map t)
+ (set-transient-map emoji-zoom-map t nil "Zoom with %k")
(let* ((factor (or factor 1.1))
(old (get-text-property (point) 'face))
(height (or (and (consp old)
diff --git a/lisp/face-remap.el b/lisp/face-remap.el
index 467ccbc299..fd49c81ab3 100644
--- a/lisp/face-remap.el
+++ b/lisp/face-remap.el
@@ -408,20 +408,15 @@ text-scale-adjust
(?0 0)
(_ inc))))
(text-scale-increase step)
- ;; (unless (zerop step)
- (message (substitute-command-keys
- "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"))
(set-transient-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(dolist (mods '(() (control)))
- (dolist (key '(?- ?+ ?= ?0)) ;; = is often unshifted +.
+ (dolist (key '(?+ ?= ?- ?0)) ;; = is often unshifted +.
(define-key map (vector (append mods (list key)))
(lambda () (interactive) (text-scale-adjust (abs inc))))))
map)
- nil
- ;; Clear the prompt after exiting.
- (lambda ()
- (message ""))))))
+ nil nil
+ "Use %k for further adjustment"))))
(defvar-local text-scale--pinch-start-scale 0
"The text scale at the start of a pinch sequence.")
@@ -515,15 +510,15 @@ global-text-scale-adjust
(not global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames)))
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height new)))
(when (characterp key)
- (message (substitute-command-keys
- "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"))
(set-transient-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(dolist (mod '(() (control meta)))
(dolist (key '(?+ ?= ?- ?0))
(define-key map (vector (append mod (list key)))
'global-text-scale-adjust)))
- map))))))
+ map)
+ nil nil
+ "Use %k for further adjustment")))))
;; ----------------------------------------------------------------
diff --git a/lisp/indent.el b/lisp/indent.el
index d6dee94016..f52b729051 100644
--- a/lisp/indent.el
+++ b/lisp/indent.el
@@ -270,11 +270,8 @@ indent-rigidly
indentation by specifying a large negative ARG."
(interactive "r\nP\np")
(if (and (not arg) interactive)
- (progn
- (message
- (substitute-command-keys
- "Indent region with \\<indent-rigidly-map>\\[indent-rigidly-left], \\[indent-rigidly-right], \\[indent-rigidly-left-to-tab-stop], or \\[indent-rigidly-right-to-tab-stop]."))
- (set-transient-map indent-rigidly-map t #'deactivate-mark))
+ (set-transient-map indent-rigidly-map t #'deactivate-mark
+ "Indent region with %k")
(save-excursion
(goto-char end)
(setq end (point-marker))
diff --git a/lisp/subr.el b/lisp/subr.el
index 2f9d37ffd6..efb920ec5a 100644
--- a/lisp/subr.el
+++ b/lisp/subr.el
@@ -6013,7 +6013,15 @@ internal-pop-keymap
(define-obsolete-function-alias
'set-temporary-overlay-map #'set-transient-map "24.4")
-(defun set-transient-map (map &optional keep-pred on-exit)
+(defvar set-transient-map-timeout 3
+ "Break the repetition chain of keys after specified timeout.
+When a number, exit the previous `set-transient-map' after idle time
+of the specified number of seconds.")
+
+(defvar set-transient-map-timer nil
+ "Timer to exit `set-transient-map' after `set-transient-map-timeout'.")
+
+(defun set-transient-map (map &optional keep-pred on-exit message timeout)
"Set MAP as a temporary keymap taking precedence over other keymaps.
Normally, MAP is used only once, to look up the very next key.
However, if the optional argument KEEP-PRED is t, MAP stays
@@ -6030,18 +6038,34 @@ set-transient-map
This returns an \"exit function\", which can be called with no argument
to deactivate this transient map, regardless of KEEP-PRED."
- (let* ((clearfun (make-symbol "clear-transient-map"))
+ (let* ((timeout (or set-transient-map-timeout timeout))
+ (message
+ (when message
+ (let (keys)
+ (map-keymap (lambda (key cmd) (and cmd (push key keys))) map)
+ (format-spec (if (stringp message) message
+ "Repeat with %k")
+ `((?k . ,(mapconcat
+ (lambda (key)
+ (substitute-command-keys
+ (format "\\`%s'"
+ (key-description (vector key)))))
+ keys ", ")))))))
+ (clearfun (make-symbol "clear-transient-map"))
(exitfun
(lambda ()
(internal-pop-keymap map 'overriding-terminal-local-map)
(remove-hook 'pre-command-hook clearfun)
+ ;; Clear the prompt after exiting.
+ (when message (message ""))
+ (when set-transient-map-timer (cancel-timer set-transient-map-timer))
(when on-exit (funcall on-exit)))))
;; Don't use letrec, because equal (in add/remove-hook) could get trapped
;; in a cycle. (bug#46326)
(fset clearfun
(lambda ()
(with-demoted-errors "set-transient-map PCH: %S"
- (unless (cond
+ (if (cond
((null keep-pred) nil)
((and (not (eq map (cadr overriding-terminal-local-map)))
(memq map (cddr overriding-terminal-local-map)))
@@ -6066,9 +6090,14 @@ set-transient-map
;; nil and so is `mc`.
(and mc (eq this-command mc))))
(t (funcall keep-pred)))
+ (when message (message "%s" message))
(funcall exitfun)))))
(add-hook 'pre-command-hook clearfun)
(internal-push-keymap map 'overriding-terminal-local-map)
+ (when timeout
+ (when set-transient-map-timer (cancel-timer set-transient-map-timer))
+ (setq set-transient-map-timer (run-with-idle-timer timeout nil exitfun)))
+ (when message (message "%s" message))
exitfun))
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Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion
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> Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Actually, I can imagine when someone might want to keep a transient map
>> active with KEEP-PRED, but still deactivate it after a timeout. So
>> a separate TIMEOUT looks cleaner.
>
> Yup, makes sense.
>
>> Anyway, repeat-mode has separate options for repeat-exit-timeout
>> and constructs a message, so I could copy the same code from repeat-mode
>> to set-transient-map.
>
> Sounds good.
Maybe something like this. I'm still unsure about providing a prefix
message without keys, because when the message arg is a string
then better to display it as is. Otherwise when it is `t', then
the message will be constructed to "Repeat with <keys...>".
I.e. the remaining question is that you already raised whether
typically all keys should be mentioned in the message.
OTOH, there are messages like "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"
have not only a prefix, but also a suffix.
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diff --git a/lisp/face-remap.el b/lisp/face-remap.el
index 7037bc58cb..951285fbf2 100644
--- a/lisp/face-remap.el
+++ b/lisp/face-remap.el
@@ -408,9 +408,6 @@ text-scale-adjust
(?0 0)
(_ inc))))
(text-scale-increase step)
- ;; (unless (zerop step)
- (message (substitute-command-keys
- "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"))
(set-transient-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(dolist (mods '(() (control)))
@@ -418,10 +415,9 @@ text-scale-adjust
(define-key map (vector (append mods (list key)))
(lambda () (interactive) (text-scale-adjust (abs inc))))))
map)
- nil
- ;; Clear the prompt after exiting.
- (lambda ()
- (message ""))))))
+ nil nil
+ (substitute-command-keys
+ "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment")))))
(defvar-local text-scale--pinch-start-scale 0
"The text scale at the start of a pinch sequence.")
@@ -515,15 +511,16 @@ global-text-scale-adjust
(not global-text-scale-adjust-resizes-frames)))
(set-face-attribute 'default nil :height new)))
(when (characterp key)
- (message (substitute-command-keys
- "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"))
(set-transient-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(dolist (mod '(() (control meta)))
(dolist (key '(?+ ?= ?- ?0))
(define-key map (vector (append mod (list key)))
'global-text-scale-adjust)))
- map))))))
+ map)
+ nil nil
+ (substitute-command-keys
+ "Use \\`+',\\`-',\\`0' for further adjustment"))))))
;; ----------------------------------------------------------------
diff --git a/lisp/indent.el b/lisp/indent.el
index d6dee94016..6eaf9f04ae 100644
--- a/lisp/indent.el
+++ b/lisp/indent.el
@@ -270,11 +270,10 @@ indent-rigidly
indentation by specifying a large negative ARG."
(interactive "r\nP\np")
(if (and (not arg) interactive)
- (progn
- (message
- (substitute-command-keys
- "Indent region with \\<indent-rigidly-map>\\[indent-rigidly-left], \\[indent-rigidly-right], \\[indent-rigidly-left-to-tab-stop], or \\[indent-rigidly-right-to-tab-stop]."))
- (set-transient-map indent-rigidly-map t #'deactivate-mark))
+ (set-transient-map
+ indent-rigidly-map t #'deactivate-mark
+ (substitute-command-keys
+ "Indent region with \\<indent-rigidly-map>\\[indent-rigidly-left], \\[indent-rigidly-right], \\[indent-rigidly-left-to-tab-stop], or \\[indent-rigidly-right-to-tab-stop]."))
(save-excursion
(goto-char end)
(setq end (point-marker))
diff --git a/lisp/subr.el b/lisp/subr.el
index 4e4eac32d9..338248bbae 100644
--- a/lisp/subr.el
+++ b/lisp/subr.el
@@ -6013,7 +6013,15 @@ internal-pop-keymap
(define-obsolete-function-alias
'set-temporary-overlay-map #'set-transient-map "24.4")
-(defun set-transient-map (map &optional keep-pred on-exit)
+(defvar set-transient-map-timeout 3
+ "Break the repetition chain of keys after specified timeout.
+When a number, exit the previous `set-transient-map' after idle time
+of the specified number of seconds.")
+
+(defvar set-transient-map-timer nil
+ "Timer to exit `set-transient-map' after `set-transient-map-timeout'.")
+
+(defun set-transient-map (map &optional keep-pred on-exit message timeout)
"Set MAP as a temporary keymap taking precedence over other keymaps.
Normally, MAP is used only once, to look up the very next key.
However, if the optional argument KEEP-PRED is t, MAP stays
@@ -6030,18 +6038,33 @@ set-transient-map
This returns an \"exit function\", which can be called with no argument
to deactivate this transient map, regardless of KEEP-PRED."
- (let* ((clearfun (make-symbol "clear-transient-map"))
+ (let* ((timeout (or set-transient-map-timeout timeout))
+ (message
+ (when message
+ (if (stringp message) message
+ (let (keys)
+ (map-keymap (lambda (key cmd) (and cmd (push key keys))) map)
+ (format-message "Repeat with %s"
+ (mapconcat (lambda (key)
+ (substitute-command-keys
+ (format "\\`%s'"
+ (key-description (vector key)))))
+ keys ", "))))))
+ (clearfun (make-symbol "clear-transient-map"))
(exitfun
(lambda ()
(internal-pop-keymap map 'overriding-terminal-local-map)
(remove-hook 'pre-command-hook clearfun)
+ ;; Clear the prompt after exiting.
+ (when message (message ""))
+ (when set-transient-map-timer (cancel-timer set-transient-map-timer))
(when on-exit (funcall on-exit)))))
;; Don't use letrec, because equal (in add/remove-hook) could get trapped
;; in a cycle. (bug#46326)
(fset clearfun
(lambda ()
(with-demoted-errors "set-transient-map PCH: %S"
- (unless (cond
+ (if (cond
((null keep-pred) nil)
((and (not (eq map (cadr overriding-terminal-local-map)))
(memq map (cddr overriding-terminal-local-map)))
@@ -6066,9 +6089,14 @@ set-transient-map
;; nil and so is `mc`.
(and mc (eq this-command mc))))
(t (funcall keep-pred)))
+ (when message (message "%s" message))
(funcall exitfun)))))
(add-hook 'pre-command-hook clearfun)
(internal-push-keymap map 'overriding-terminal-local-map)
+ (when timeout
+ (when set-transient-map-timer (cancel-timer set-transient-map-timer))
+ (setq set-transient-map-timer (run-with-idle-timer timeout nil exitfun)))
+ (when message (message "%s" message))
exitfun))
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Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Actually, I can imagine when someone might want to keep a transient map > active with KEEP-PRED, but still deactivate it after a timeout. So > a separate TIMEOUT looks cleaner. Yup, makes sense. > Anyway, repeat-mode has separate options for repeat-exit-timeout > and constructs a message, so I could copy the same code from repeat-mode > to set-transient-map. Sounds good. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2022 15:51:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 01 11:51:06 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38942 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1o7IvC-0006oP-Cx for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:59517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1o7Iv7-0006nq-MZ for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:51:05 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F184B1BF206; Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion In-Reply-To: <878rpdyyxo.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:17:23 +0200") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> <86letewfpa.fsf@HIDDEN> <878rpdyyxo.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 18:40:37 +0300 Message-ID: <86k08wzx5e.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> We don't need post-command-hook here - this leaves us with just >> set-transient-map. As was already suggested, we need either >> to add a new optional arg TIMEOUT to set-transient-map, >> or allow a number of seconds in the existing arg KEEP-PRED. >> >> Then another question is how the users could customize the timeout. >> One variable to customize timeout for all commands that use >> set-transient-map? Or separate variables for every command: >> one for indent-rigidly, one for text-scale-adjust? > > I think one variable for the timeout would be sufficient, and a value of > (say) `timeout' for KEEP-PRED could instruct set-transient-map to use > that timeout, perhaps? Actually, I can imagine when someone might want to keep a transient map active with KEEP-PRED, but still deactivate it after a timeout. So a separate TIMEOUT looks cleaner. Anyway, repeat-mode has separate options for repeat-exit-timeout and constructs a message, so I could copy the same code from repeat-mode to set-transient-map.
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Reininger's _Byzantium_: "Raise Your Hands" Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:17:23 +0200 Message-ID: <878rpdyyxo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > We don't need post-command-hook here - this leaves us with just > set-transient-map. As was already suggested, we need either > to add a new optional arg TIMEOUT to set-transient-map, > or allow a n [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > We don't need post-command-hook here - this leaves us with just > set-transient-map. As was already suggested, we need either > to add a new optional arg TIMEOUT to set-transient-map, > or allow a number of seconds in the existing arg KEEP-PRED. > > Then another question is how the users could customize the timeout. > One variable to customize timeout for all commands that use > set-transient-map? Or separate variables for every command: > one for indent-rigidly, one for text-scale-adjust? I think one variable for the timeout would be sufficient, and a value of (say) `timeout' for KEEP-PRED could instruct set-transient-map to use that timeout, perhaps? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 08:17:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 07 04:17:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55387 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mNWHw-0001Jz-1v for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 04:17:04 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:42525) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1mNWHu-0001JR-Fb for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 04:17:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1631002611; bh=z7Vf0/a6AQiKAEN+cIfe4gIh6LG5AVPbBp9BAj1mEMo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=b67CplRnTrdM+FVJ/BnHzfP+QptRmdqs3rkUlK2aGHbV02F8orLI/LoULYmKZF5uc 5h39DKioBPVtqbiFF+RnDpToBkF5rwLh97ni8vQc2UVe+v3EYndnvgQEb9lUaC7/Zk hC0QTGZatZMc4A/k3efSPxi7hjsjqLpocKQjgd9A= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([46.125.249.31]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbRk3-1mylmU1yq9-00bpzf; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 10:16:51 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#21634: [External] : bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion To: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pmtntcl5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fsuikszt.fsf@HIDDEN> <87eea1hhzc.fsf@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB5488DEB83233F5557B33170EF3D29@HIDDEN> <CALO-guuis=6G91y=yGs-9TquAKHezuxgQR-nu=8kZ3s0XDqXRA@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <f42e158c-f08b-b6c3-65bb-3ec0e8d19ab2@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 10:16:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CALO-guuis=6G91y=yGs-9TquAKHezuxgQR-nu=8kZ3s0XDqXRA@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hELCKrjmEB+kYbvuK1G6x9ZkG9qv4bMwcfdTH92wgclHd+baaiE l216HAeUcBqjuAEzUhRM9SgIjHnKs0+bBL8/GQTg3OMigLBE5Idlq6a2ABevI76RE0zh27u oK0h0qqCKwglrJzPWRAYaPj5RgHXYFcf+FbmEx63MkuzZPJbZn7C4PcQiOOM97mqKLIiRsQ qzgonoykpx1CQ+AwxtOHQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:C1yp374uCtc=:uHrxkLfTTxSZ9FGY/K6WlX 5ZLRRSeHgy30+QBGT2Lu5rBYI5y+nUbJL42HpMIHDY77bVVyN6bHfzp3L/1eHj5EXc4LXHKge 1V17IXxViA0xj2/QLki5Iue3xDEP71AEywBqkdpyDs3g97jIhveE1CrTL+3tYobn5157wejKO tq659c1EjTFUPPl1ACxhpGVITSq2UzjerqMT35aQ/SqVy3Kbz8c0I7DC5CPuvvO7HR/89kS0s jdjXQ8uBEXQZeEngvLiKXlNkuYr2NLb+MmQiAfstoheYiIevKCiavGgnHxBzn5fd6r4Md5D0P EHpqIqlYfYuVZcFClhUDltbqHmppR1xNBq0LCeHfuisZ2PGZx4wMDDMXZI7BFCNS5hxEU+eau pm4wCJM6+GTRYmiex5P8k533J1P91eC5lCvVpjSeiAK2U4tVW1knQ7TalYsHhN9929ob9H8kU ytKmPsa/U737Uk7/qdOsSEBdJLayoLW0b24nOtlzpv+FNHqXn3DQdCSWSfil1ldDHRazao91F eHhOqR2HcUTvjLMfhfh2QUVShn7DX3fAs3ErsiA2yRZ7d/T7GmCGz/zmjTe5j82rLB3R/NGxr w12K6s9gMhqC53yejJ8JEMVDFJj8uMLfBXk/RUN6mi7+agSuetzdRhjwg3OEO2fQCc4GR+PJv maosbT137T5m32IGklz2kS7oRhGGizMwMdvVKPj9Tq4F3BS55nDk6Q5D0cuoYu47RpNX32GAB VzOatrApCY1UfFws60iT9kOiF+9L2XlB/K3Htai3qdYCzR6Vaq3oKGLIkRnRApiyCxb8ry7Ut S9oL0NfvgAoZjDVzM0ZJ20ATddevZEsA+ePa71G3x2Zwm+orRWc/OBGPyy1oa2mP6THWbf39l JmFw70mD4PO1db0KsCjUbl8A2rngT189w7hV0mY+mAl/FEdMZdm2Czc1nLGU0fquoO+7ryOxn glJMdfKiS988HMbjvaten3+t705Mz5dQuKKsM7mgb1IcPfv2ndBl9q6gz5F6VknGd141ZkXi3 DfrwqjUV2ysykgbMvVPimk7KXGeUQrR4kDiVb6X4DHpOroW5aCAPCweDR//lPmKtfghHVYUJy lyUNttXZXEKwJKKB9rxlcnUasqszoKieSxkeK1AFKrqNUzXm4kefEICFw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, "21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > With indent-rigidly this is even worse > since the echo-area message disappears leaving you with no indication > of it being active, which is essentially a mode which is extremely > un-emacsy. With `transient-mark-mode' the region stays highlighted until I'm done with indenting. I would never look anywhere else for obtaining feedback about a transient mode like the one triggered by `indent-rigidly'. martin
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IIUC, the discussion was about making it time out in addition to
C-g-ing out and not instead of it.
My original concern was leaving Emacs in the middle of such an
interaction, and when you get back to Emacs, you can easily forget
that you were in the middle of an interaction and be surprised when
keys don't work as expected. With indent-rigidly this is even worse
since the echo-area message disappears leaving you with no indication
of it being active, which is essentially a mode which is extremely
un-emacsy.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 6:15 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > Another command that could use it as well is 'indent-rigidly'.
> > Currently it's too inconvenient to type C-g to get out of it.
> > Exiting after a delay would be a better option.
>
> Not that I care much about this particular fiddling,
> but IMHO, `C-g' to "get out of" what is essentially
> a modal, or near-modal interaction, is emacsy and
> makes perfect sense. Having a time-out "get out of"
> such contexts seems to me quite wrong & unfriendly.
>
> (Again though, not much concern on my part, for
> quitting this command's repeating behavior.)
>
> Timers do things silently, at moments users are
> often not aware of. And users certainly don't want
> to _wait_ for a timer as the way to initiate or
> terminate some action. At a minimum there should
> be a way to quit on demand (i.e. do it now!).
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: a88b18c1-b640-4a20-a679-08d97183d8f8 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Sep 2021 22:15:34.3448 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: XFRquKHzZheDuYgpyZLZTF8vlW/3wwn3Q6ZXX0qubCJu/Lub2pk0Jch/Wxi5kn31aPLCbSlOPKIH/GqA4/KtpA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR10MB2757 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6300 definitions=10099 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2108310000 definitions=main-2109060140 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: Fu8JAay-JtLtE5N515RtowKFKZxUaJWR X-Proofpoint-GUID: Fu8JAay-JtLtE5N515RtowKFKZxUaJWR X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, "21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Another command that could use it as well is 'indent-rigidly'. > Currently it's too inconvenient to type C-g to get out of it. > Exiting after a delay would be a better option. Not that I care much about this particular fiddling, but IMHO, `C-g' to "get out of" what is essentially a modal, or near-modal interaction, is emacsy and makes perfect sense. Having a time-out "get out of" such contexts seems to me quite wrong & unfriendly. (Again though, not much concern on my part, for quitting this command's repeating behavior.) Timers do things silently, at moments users are often not aware of. And users certainly don't want to _wait_ for a timer as the way to initiate or terminate some action. At a minimum there should be a way to quit on demand (i.e. do it now!).
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#21634; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 15:42:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 06 11:42:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mNGl2-0007DH-4S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 11:42:04 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:37289) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mNGl0-0007CD-LB for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 11:42:02 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAA216000F; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pmtntcl5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fsuikszt.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 18:34:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87fsuikszt.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:28:38 +0200") Message-ID: <87eea1hhzc.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Maybe a new mode transient-repeat-mode could be created. >> Then text-scale-adjust could temporarily activate >> this mode instead of using set-transient-map. > > Yeah, that's a good idea. Another command that could use it as well is 'indent-rigidly'. Currently it's too inconvenient to type C-g to get out of it. Exiting after a delay would be a better option.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#21634; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 08:28:53 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 06 04:28:53 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51675 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mN9zp-0002hN-M4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:28:53 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:32956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mN9zk-0002h6-Pt for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:28:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cLXZOX0M7hL+2lwRUqhLOEnTY6H23yOWuKgjSCA7YU4=; b=UwW9L63SOCdvTHbFZ306SS0Nny 8XNLsiaaX/v3HYT61s8BZAER7R74n5tH48WRgrie6XnDCOCGxNp9VbU1cF6G+4ZgdiMwL3/5f6ep0 OYRXfQwo5nQE9314NO6HRzMA82dtrpZtAgoTxmZ+at7t9HpwSA5KqtN1ZxCtsadhZ9qI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mN9zb-0007rK-TK; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:28:42 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pmtntcl5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 10:28:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pmtntcl5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:40:58 +0300") Message-ID: <87fsuikszt.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Maybe a new mode transient-repeat-mode could be created. > Then text-scale-adjust could temporarily activate > this mode instead of using set-transient-map. Yeah, that's a good idea. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Maybe a new mode transient-repeat-mode could be created. > Then text-scale-adjust could temporarily activate > this mode instead of using set-transient-map. Yeah, that's a good idea. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2021 16:42:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 05 12:42:09 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50892 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mMvDa-0008Fd-F2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:42:09 -0400 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:59637) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mMvDY-0008E6-Ss for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:42:05 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37DAE100003; Sun, 5 Sep 2021 16:41:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 19:40:58 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:54:04 +0200") Message-ID: <87pmtntcl5.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Indeed, text-scale-adjust could be trivially modified to use >> repeat-map that supports repeat-exit-timeout. But the problem is >> that this feature is available only when repeat-mode is enabled. >> Maybe not a problem to enable it when the user wants repeatable keys. > > I think implementing text-scale-adjust on top of repeat-mode would be > good -- and it could just enable repeat-mode for itself temporarily, I > think? Maybe a new mode transient-repeat-mode could be created. Then text-scale-adjust could temporarily activate this mode instead of using set-transient-map.
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Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2021 06:54:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 04 02:54:16 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mMPZ9-0005jj-TN for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 02:54:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mMPZ8-0005jX-Dm for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 02:54:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YvZdfpuMfPIYfgFg/Ah3KmJKQlxzKbLwjm570EaLo0U=; b=FsoDQ6U7OsQkNsECr/sxK2dRoO Rxf2TQnLHrgKXTLoQfJCsWjGNJRe29HVVdrIzuGRtDjLzmnJmXFptaNHGsh7SSntRX9sdVKVRE/Q/ JKeiAeh128j24I3oL459PtZ3/CAgjvkHZ1iMIjq4UCqshRtXJqDAFyDD5uykaZYZhepM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mMPYz-0006Nl-89; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:54:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:54:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:13:45 +0300") Message-ID: <87czpou8z7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Indeed, text-scale-adjust could be trivially modified to use > repeat-map that supports repeat-exit-timeout. But the problem is > that this feature is available only when repeat-mode is enabled. > M [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: > Indeed, text-scale-adjust could be trivially modified to use > repeat-map that supports repeat-exit-timeout. But the problem is > that this feature is available only when repeat-mode is enabled. > Maybe not a problem to enable it when the user wants repeatable keys. I think implementing text-scale-adjust on top of repeat-mode would be good -- and it could just enable repeat-mode for itself temporarily, I think? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 21634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2021 16:21:01 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 03 12:21:01 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45811 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mMBw4-0000EG-Pt for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:21:00 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:39891) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1mMBw3-0000E2-VE for 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:21:00 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 679451C0003; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:20:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#21634: text-scale-adjust suggestion Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <22035.47283.76000.848103@HIDDEN> <83d1wsxcuz.fsf@HIDDEN> <CALO-gutwXdOZB+ni5h-zD64dd2uSPfpFCSUsVh2uKaMiJF1ucA@HIDDEN> <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:13:45 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87zgstyl9e.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 03 Sep 2021 13:02:53 +0200") Message-ID: <871r65ab7q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21634 Cc: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 21634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Well, I suspect that I'm annoyed at the other direction: whenever I go >> into the text-scaling mode, I try to remember to explicitly break it at >> the end, so that I won't leave emacs in that state by mistake and be >> surpries when I come back to it hours later (which actually happened to >> me once, possibly putting me on this side of that fence). OTOH, if the >> delay is long enough, there is never any time pressure that I run into, >> and it's easy to see when the timer kicked in by the echo area message >> disappearing. > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved > at the time.) > > We now have something similar in the form of `repeat-exit-timeout' > (which defaults to "no timeout"). Perhaps it would make sense to use > this in `text-scale-adjust'? Any opinions? Indeed, text-scale-adjust could be trivially modified to use repeat-map that supports repeat-exit-timeout. But the problem is that this feature is available only when repeat-mode is enabled. Maybe not a problem to enable it when the user wants repeatable keys.
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Subject: Re: bug#21634: 24.5; Suggested improvement
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> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 02:06:57 -0400
> From: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>
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>
> > If there's demand for resetting the size, I guess we could have it as
> > optional behavior.
>
> That's why I suggested the below extension to the meaning of the
> `keep-pred` argument: specifying a timeout if it's a number. Then there
> could be a new global variable that specifies a default for that
> argument, so with nil you get a single resize only (so you need to do
> the full C-x C-= to resize further), with t you get the current
> behavior, and with a number I get my timeout.
Would you like to send a patch along these lines? If you decide to go
for it, please accompany the change with a suitable entry in
etc/NEWS. Bonus points if you also provide a patch for the section in
the Emacs manual ("Text Scale") that describes this feature.
TIA
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> From: Eli Barzilay <eli@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 08:04:03 -0400
>>
>> Would it make sense to implement `text-scale-adjust' as follows? One
>> minor change is using the `keep-pred' argument to avoid re-setting
>> the map repeatedly, but the important change is having it timeout
>> after a few seconds. This avoids the kind of mode-ish interaction
>> that feels weird in Emacs.
>
> FWIW, such modus operandi always annoys me. Why should I be under
> pressure to do whatever is needed to prevent the setting from being
> reset?
>
> I don't really understand what's the problem with "mode-ish
> operation", feel free to elaborate.
Well, I suspect that I'm annoyed at the other direction: whenever I go
into the text-scaling mode, I try to remember to explicitly break it at
the end, so that I won't leave emacs in that state by mistake and be
surpries when I come back to it hours later (which actually happened to
me once, possibly putting me on this side of that fence). OTOH, if the
delay is long enough, there is never any time pressure that I run into,
and it's easy to see when the timer kicked in by the echo area message
disappearing.
> If there's demand for resetting the size, I guess we could have it as
> optional behavior.
That's why I suggested the below extension to the meaning of the
`keep-pred` argument: specifying a timeout if it's a number. Then there
could be a new global variable that specifies a default for that
argument, so with nil you get a single resize only (so you need to do
the full C-x C-= to resize further), with t you get the current
behavior, and with a number I get my timeout.
(I'm also suggesting it because I have a similarly "moded" function that
uses `set-transient-map' -- it seems like a good idea to me to specify a
default behavior for all such transient maps, so my function behaves in
the same way as text scaling.)
>> In fact, I find this useful in other cases too (a command that allows
>> you to resize the current window with the arrow keys), so I think that
>> it's useful to either add an additional timeout argument -- or perhaps
>> an extension where `keep-pred' can be a number of seconds and will do
>> the timeout thing.
>
> The user can always scale the size back when she wants, right? Or am
> I missing something?
(Hopefully the above clarified it. I'm talking about the resulting
interaction and how convenient it is, unrelated to being able to scale
things back.)
--
((x=>x(x))(x=>x(x))) Eli Barzilay:
http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life!
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Subject: 24.5; Suggested improvement
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Would it make sense to implement `text-scale-adjust' as follows? One
minor change is using the `keep-pred' argument to avoid re-setting the
map repeatedly, but the important change is having it timeout after a
few seconds. This avoids the kind of mode-ish interaction that feels
weird in Emacs.
In fact, I find this useful in other cases too (a command that allows
you to resize the current window with the arrow keys), so I think that
it's useful to either add an additional timeout argument -- or perhaps
an extension where `keep-pred' can be a number of seconds and will do
the timeout thing.
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(defun text-scale-adjust (inc)
"..."
(interactive "p")
(let ((ev last-command-event)
(echo-keystrokes nil))
(let* ((base (event-basic-type ev))
(step
(pcase base
((or ?+ ?=) inc)
(?- (- inc))
(?0 0)
(_ inc))))
(text-scale-increase step)
(message "Use +,-,0 for further adjustment")
(run-with-idle-timer 2 nil
(set-transient-map
(let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
(dolist (mods '(() (control)))
(dolist (key '(?- ?+ ?= ?0)) ;; = is often unshifted +.
(define-key map (vector (append mods (list key)))
(lambda () (interactive) (text-scale-adjust (abs inc))))))
map)
t (lambda () (message "done")))))))
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