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If I evalulate this in `emacs -Q' with subword-mode enabled, 8G won't expand:
(define-abbrev-table 'c++-mode-abbrev-table
'(("8g" "struct" nil 0)
("8G" "class" nil 0)))
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Arash wrote:
> If I evalulate this in `emacs -Q' with subword-mode enabled, 8G won't expand:
>
> (define-abbrev-table 'c++-mode-abbrev-table
> '(("8g" "struct" nil 0)
> ("8G" "class" nil 0)))
Ref http://debbugs.gnu.org/17558#25
"Someone" needs to change instances of -word in abbrev.el to -word-strictly.
Perhaps just abbrev--before-point is enough. But who knows.
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> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 17:51:35 -0400
> Cc: 23705 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Arash wrote:
>
> > If I evalulate this in `emacs -Q' with subword-mode enabled, 8G won't expand:
> >
> > (define-abbrev-table 'c++-mode-abbrev-table
> > '(("8g" "struct" nil 0)
> > ("8G" "class" nil 0)))
>
> Ref http://debbugs.gnu.org/17558#25
>
> "Someone" needs to change instances of -word in abbrev.el to -word-strictly.
> Perhaps just abbrev--before-point is enough. But who knows.
Actually, I don't think this is a bug. In subword-mode, "8G" is 2
words. At the time, I deliberately left abbrevs out of the
*-word-strictly conversion, since I believe users of this mode should
be able to expand sub-words.
So I think the OP needs to change the abbrevs in use to not bump into
this contradiction.
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> So I think the OP needs to change the abbrevs in use to not bump into
> this contradiction.
I think I just turn subword-mode off :D
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> > So I think the OP needs to change the abbrevs in use to not bump into
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> I think I just turn subword-mode off :D
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If I evalulate this in `emacs -Q' with subword-mode enabled, 8G won't expand:
(define-abbrev-table 'c++-mode-abbrev-table
'(("8g" "struct" nil 0)
("8G" "class" nil 0)))
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:06:33 +0300
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> > From: Arash <pbqbqp@HIDDEN>
> > Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN>, 23705 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:31:18 +0430
> >
> > > So I think the OP needs to change the abbrevs in use to not bump into
> > > this contradiction.
> >
> > I think I just turn subword-mode off :D
>
> Yes, that's another possibility.
No further comments, so I'm marking this bug as done.
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:06:33 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
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> > From: Arash <pbqbqp@HIDDEN>
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> >
> > > So I think the OP needs to change the abbrevs in use to not bump into
> > > this contradiction.
> >
> > I think I just turn subword-mode off :D
>
> Yes, that's another possibility.
No further comments, so I'm marking this bug as done.
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If I evalulate this in `emacs -Q' with subword-mode enabled, 8G won't expand:
(define-abbrev-table 'c++-mode-abbrev-table
'(("8g" "struct" nil 0)
("8G" "class" nil 0)))
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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > I think I just turn subword-mode off :D
>>
>> Yes, that's another possibility.
>
> No further comments, so I'm marking this bug as done.
My comment is that if the OP's reaction "I'll just stop using
subword-mode then" is a common one, then the changes to make
subword-mode more pervasive are problematic.
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> My comment is that if the OP's reaction "I'll just stop using
> subword-mode then" is a common one, then the changes to make
> subword-mode more pervasive are problematic.
By his explanation I thaught the two modes are incompatible so I gave
up! (actually I didn't think that, I just didn't want to be mean lol)
So, My situation:
I'm using mixed case abbrevs in a abbrev/tempo setup, for example (with
^ being the cursor)
"8g" expands:
struct ^
"8G" expands:
struct ^ {
^
};
(I have tons of these! and I'm used to them and I love 'em)
and subword-mode might have been a little help in camelCase/PascalCase
codes.
Anyway! I reported the bug/incompatiblity, so now you know!
Hope it gets fixed before 25 (if it's a bug).
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> Anyway! I reported the bug/incompatiblity, so now you know!
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That would be great.
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> From: Arash <pbqbqp@HIDDEN>
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> > I don't see how it can be fixed, since there are 2 conflicting goals
> > involved. The only way forward I can think of is a defcustom that
> > would allow users to choose one of these two goals.
>
> That would be great.
Would someone please do this?
TIA
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