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a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tromey.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=m/0L9AbEwERVZTTgsG6k8VI7ptNK5q9nXd9Ro5PUa1Q=; b=V3yo/Qq5GLrDr9yr3vaQXdrF54 IQA2mZTlJ3/nRfhLFwMUBEj0xAGNWekfIFxhgIhverh6mwP+nglMah11wKdDU1k+rkrEI0xdhx4Js QsAtkb9JEyfb9/2LLRGp4SUi0; Received: from 67-6-181-22.hlrn.qwest.net ([67.6.181.22]:56804 helo=bapiya) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <tom@HIDDEN>) id 1clGkm-0005rg-00; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:10:20 -0700 From: Tom Tromey <tom@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 25.2; help-echo should show in echo area when point is in text X-Attribution: Tom Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:10:19 -0700 Message-ID: <874lz515t0.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box522.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tromey.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 67.6.181.22 X-Exim-ID: 1clGkm-0005rg-00 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 67-6-181-22.hlrn.qwest.net (bapiya) [67.6.181.22]:56804 X-Source-Auth: tom+tromey.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: ZWx5bnJvYmk7ZWx5bnJvYmk7Ym94NTIyLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) Make sure you have font-lock enabled, open a new .el file and insert: '(("^[ \t]*\\(?:\\* .*\\)?\\(([^\n)]*,\\s-*\\)$" (1 '(face font-lock-warning-face help-echo "Continue function lists with \")\\n(\".") t)) (This snippet comes from log-edit.el) For me the final "t))" is given font-lock-warning-face. It also has this text property: help-echo "Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?" ... which is very useful information! However, the only way I can see this (other than describe-char) is to hover over the highlighted text with the mouse. I think it would be handier if this text were displayed somewhere when point was in this area. Some other error-displaying programs, like flycheck (I didn't look at flymake) will do this already; I just think it should be standard across Emacs. Tom In GNU Emacs 25.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.8) of 2017-03-02 built on bapiya Repository revision: 6e788ef0e262fafc014c21f4ad52cc5dc9f1715b Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11901000 System Description: Fedora release 25 (Twenty Five) Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/home/tromey/Emacs/install/ --with-modules' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-agent-group-mode: t gnus-topic-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t which-function-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t erc-services-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-autojoin-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-track-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t erc-hl-nicks-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t savehist-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: nnimap read 0k from mail.tromey.com No more unseen articles Expiring articles...done Mark set (New file) Mark set previous-line: Beginning of buffer funcall-interactively: End of buffer Saving file /tmp/q.el... 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