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Full text available.Received: (at 2666) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Mar 2009 23:11:35 +0000 From rgm@HIDDEN Fri Mar 13 16:11:35 2009 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, VALID_BTS_CONTROL,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2DNAuwl028078; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:10:57 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1LiGWk-0004G0-Sf; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:10:54 -0400 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@HIDDEN> Cc: 2666 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2666: 23.0.91; TeX calendar and UTF-8 encoding References: <94C0B520-AA49-4CA7-A4B3-93EC463793D2@HIDDEN> X-Spook: red noise ASO Bosnia electronic surveillance PLO CDC X-Ran: +<j7[lt3bC7>@wsA02-~%0e6wJjgoT4aR?=G,;y9+#L"J~K$V\a5[^!I[#6DZ@'$eOc54t X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:10:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <94C0B520-AA49-4CA7-A4B3-93EC463793D2@HIDDEN> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:16:53 +0100") Message-ID: <vlsklhhvcx.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii reassign 2666 emacs,calendar severity 2666 wishlist stop Peter Dyballa wrote: > I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble- > extra. Its doc-string contains > > For example, to include extra packages: > "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n". > > but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear > unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer. The above is what you need to use if you _don't_ use customize. It seems that customize tries to be helpful and does extra quoting of values you insert. So in the customize input field, you just type: \usepackage{foo}C-q C-j \usepackage{bar} That results in the value being set to what it says in the doc-string. I can add a comment along these lines, but it's a general customize feature. The other items are wishlists.
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I have localised calendar to show month and day names in German. This =20= month is M=E4rz. When I create a (La)TeX calendar, it's in UTF-8 =20 (because of my shell environment), the =E4 is 0xC3 0xA4 or =C3=A4 in ISO = =20 8859-1 or =C3=80 in ISO 8859-15. The latter is my preferred LaTeX input =20= encoding since it allows to use our currency sign, the =80. This now =20 makes it necessary to use the textcomp package in LaTeX. Is it possible to make the output produced or its encoding more =20 flexible, adapt itself to the default encoding of GNU Emacs? If not, =20 could the documentation be updated to state which encoding is used =20 and that the user should use cal-tex-preamble-extra to adapt for that? I have some difficulties with the documentation of cal-tex-preamble-=20 extra. Its doc-string contains For example, to include extra packages: "\\usepackage{foo}\n\\usepackage{bar}\n". but when I use \\ and \n in the customisation interface these appear =20 unchanged in the calendar.tex buffer. (Actually LaTeX does not =20 complain when a few commands are concatenated to build a long line.) =20 I haven't yet saved my customisation =96 if this explains the =20 difference between theory and practise. I'd also recommend to use the report class instead of article in the =20 LaTeX output generated: no useless AUX file is created then. Other =20 differences won't show up. Another improvement would be to update some old LaTeX code, for =20 example the \special{landscape}{}% This would only work for ancient DVI output. Modern XeTeX and pdfTeX =20 do not understand this. A completely orthogonal solution is: \usepackage[landscape]{geometry} Between ``[=B4=B4 and ``]=B4=B4 is also the correct place to define the = margin: = \usepackage[landscape,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt,margin=3D{-2cm,-2cm}]{geometry= } It should be OK to just use: \usepackage[landscape,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt]{geometry} It's not necessary to set \textwidth and \textheight. There is =20 probably no-one using a TeX distribution elder then 15 years, i.e., =20 it will be teTeX or TeX Live based. In these distributions a TeX =20 configuration file sets the default paper size. To switch from =20 landscape to portrait just remove the ``landscape,=B4=B4 option from the = =20 line loading the geometry package or set clearly: \usepackage[portrait,nomarginpar,top=3D0pt]{geometry} This package is in all TeX distributions. Since some years (<10) this =20= is also true for the Latin Modern fonts (texdoc lm-info), which are =20 planned as a modernised update and substitute of all CM fonts in a =20 modern font format (OTF), which can be loaded via \usepackage{lmodern} (actually PostScript fonts are used here). It could also be thought =20 of making the LaTeX output XeTeX compatible (loading ifpdf and =20 ifxetex packages, loading the fontspec package for XeTeX and setting =20 a system font, for example Times, or leaving the default Latin Modern). In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7) of 2009-03-13 on localhost Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version =20 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--=20 with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--x-includes=3D/opt/local/include' '--x-=20 libraries=3D/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/=20 Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/=20 Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/=20 pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=3D-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -=20 fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -=20= foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-=20 partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=3D-=20 dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/opt/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Imbecility, n.: A kind of divine inspiration, or sacred fire affecting censorious critics of this dictionary. =96 Ambrose Bierce: _The Devil's Dictionary_
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