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[73.93.166.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s8-v6sm7224604pfi.154.2018.07.18.16.42.00 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.martins.cc (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by monster.martins.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70472600BF for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:41:58 -0700 (PDT) From: emacs@HIDDEN X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <13990.1531957318.1@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 16:41:58 -0700 Message-ID: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 20:10:18 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Emacs 26.1.3 on Fedora doesn't respect the position part of the geometry given in the command line (it does respect the width and height). I start two emacs sessions (as "me" and "root") and place them on desk 1/page 1 and desk1/page 5 of my FVWM configuration, and they both start on desk 1/page 1, at the whim of the window manager. I also sprinkle a few xterm around different desks/pages, and fvwm obeys my specifications, so the change is not there. Fails with "emacs -Q --no-loadup --no-site-file--no-site-lisp" and either -g, --geometry, --geometry=, -geometry, and with no .Xdefaults or xresources. I've been using this setup for several years and it has worked up to emacs 25.3. In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30) of 2018-06-26 built on buildhw-10.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Fedora release 28 (Twenty Eight) Configured using: 'configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64 --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-gpm=no --with-xwidgets --with-modules build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong -grecord-gcc-switches -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro PKG_CONFIG_PATH=:/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:/usr/share/pkgconfig' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES THREADS XWIDGETS LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.153198841731070 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: emacs@HIDDEN, 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.153198841731070 (code B ref 32207); Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2018 08:20:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fg4Ab-000854-Ek for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:20:17 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:54145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fg4AZ-00084q-NI for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:20:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.222]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LbdE3-1gRFg20I1b-00lDkr; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:20:09 +0200 Message-ID: <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:20:00 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oSJ77+FFUf1dCoRpzpc3WEVVIVGS/8PkBVobeRPnvfVjTbSpTJ7 Gr1Z/vNqXkP0buGs1E8ANUsEnrEJcPSAFghJTKN4cnTCEkZQWez5V3ZNAJGBysHJC7YErbG 0Omctr3PqDK0hlDaIUnWzDPg/nAhP6fRi6ykvtGbNslI+oHsRgjxnaEYTsfwucHqBAaiTw+ QQwb3Pe8mT/kRoTklRQcg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:UuX0v+H+yvc=:rPlbq2YUfF4qmhnblqHPdQ bh4boRL37EEy+whQc3KVM8rVfvQkIN5b5VDtddTlCPqhuGLS80Fv46h+kDcWyacuUoKDt0hg2 Z1wb8o/uaNkqKpFEOEY7MhH0O1rea7Ew4j60KHJCITRqLOpcrN6eoo6L5FFkyFaUM+ZBNStW/ YpZWQulFwG1o/UFts+5nyNd2N2Zeulz+0A2M4Kgt/n///Gph/+QNs6hyeQYmqGpTI1dr+azSi q5+6/PrQx61XGxcMY/rXp1n27IMh0qiWB0rFhkQGqHiipLK9Rh9wCJJrQbdIxLloUy4aOeklD va5uYAheys0Q77Voj19gWwPND8CvZkUyrg/s0ar9IOR6sElvppsUo5qSMcMYGFyWwPwD/0cQH glZaf4PysU4QUelGR7no/FlK2k18fkHr1hcwo2K2reZTSiq6Rot+yNplXpv6a1p9afUpLydRp j2pNYeAOxnDzAewQV2inlEpkEKds/u/VhqCmIYWnPOJ71ARzx8MUzMvsd6cU91NwJzpymmSQw sfvuNe1yuZNMv0gfpYxLlHr/olIy5UhdENnuEqGi1SfPqzH8xu9xnf3wD5jibm0AMHaIu9AL6 HaOgQ28XMkn7E+hj4DNV1ERgRloaePDx3lhTIYyS4T6K6YSoRvEW6QU6JLTMb7lzt7kEKz8Xu xq0pRd5Mv53LL2totOLSAhucPkyVwcxLUxrDBMSdnSJyfcc+s2CQKDelx9n0WUoA1thV7tuj3 I+FIV/3iqfX5YS4NbEPPcGkp2GxSCxfl/jpLE0BAapVQ1D1ui9cy58F3J7Mm1dNj10ZiXJzQJ ziYjCc4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Emacs 26.1.3 on Fedora doesn't respect the position part of > the geometry given in the command line (it does respect the > width and height). So IIUC Emacs fails to position the initial frame within a large virtual desktop that spans several screens. And if that virtual desktop equals the size of your screen, there are no problems. Correct? Does positioning a new frame in a running Emacs session via (make-frame '((left . x) (top . y))) for some values of x and y fail in the same sense as with the command line parameters? Thanks, martin
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X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4102.1532006778.1@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 06:26:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > So IIUC Emacs fails to position the initial frame within a > large virtual desktop that spans several screens. And if > that virtual desktop equals the size of your screen, there > are no problems. > Correct? No, it fails to position the initial frame period. I start one emacs on the "default/initial" screen, another a few screens away. Neither obeys the command line position. > Does positioning a new frame in a running Emacs session via > (make-frame '((left . x) (top . y))) Just tried it with x and y within the physical desktop and a few screens away and neither worked. However, if I kill fvwm and use make-frame, it WORKS! Even off screen, which I can see when I restart fvwm. This is interesting, as I'm running the same fvwm as with the previous emacs, where this worked. Also xterms position themselves properly. Just tried glxgears, mplayer and it works with those too. Xv works within the physical screen, it doesn't off-screen. Maybe Emacs changed the way it requests the screen position to a way that fvwm doesn't like. I'll need to try with another window manager. -- Henrique
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X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17333.1532030218.1@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:56:58 -0700 Message-ID: <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Maybe Emacs changed the way it requests the screen position > to a way that fvwm doesn't like. I'll need to try with > another window manager. If I kill fvwm and start mutter, emacs places itself properly. Looking at fvwm's log I see this message when starting emacs: [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> reason: 6: The hints have been ignored because the window's current size would have become invalid. The new hints will become active when the window generates the next ConfigureRequest. I don't remember seeing this message before. If I turn fvwm's: BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement True When I start emacs as: emacs -Q -g 80x40+500+500 I get this explanation: [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x1800142 'emacs@...': initial size 764x780 desk 0 (current desk) current page position 20 40, placed by fvwm (ignored program specified position) placement method: TileCascade Similarly for -geometry 80x40+500+500, and --geometry=80x40+500+500 When I start an xterm as: xterm -geometry 80x40+500+500 I get this one: [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x1800025 'xterm': initial size 816x839 desk 0 (current desk) current page position 500 500 (used user specified position) For xterm, fvwm says "user specified", for emacs it says "program specified". This and the IgnoredHints above may have something to do with it. -- Henrique
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.15320689179791 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: emacs@HIDDEN Cc: 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.15320689179791 (code B ref 32207); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2018 06:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fgP6z-0002Xr-L5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:41:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:48001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fgP6x-0002Xd-Mb for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:41:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.162.73.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M3igT-1fxf2r2zFx-00rHrv; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:41:48 +0200 Message-ID: <5B518422.8080707@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:41:38 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uWfE2EdUuNlhjIrvE+VSXAfOVcJCTQ6u0UmHTPnksR4bF2ZmpkG 72OZn2gio3nY/oHDKbZgl5Xk42luSeG7BvOy700JwEc38RBSQ5YwTgder0LcmmZzmaSX+kY wgF5PLBqRdQO69Sz5z7k0KVRR661SkDhl/LKWHNTxCIFe2RAEhtQCueOfNtfNdKVqXIMu03 rfQuB3FMYeY0DFKKrTcHg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pYJr4B9sCto=:P+GMV88arE3JJj3BbouQxy 0F5yNy2HVO2iOPQU+mkUx5qcAEfwNUQ+awnNlWkjg6mAIVkEQeoj09Yv8BlVikYWa+PjpRPj5 y2OEfWhekwKPyoiAZlKmzImoN/7S2QgqJnT2urlegCcSEtwxKE/ygrx9C4fg5Nj44Eer8XIdy TQm2M0r/lnWIjjsCqBDtyUv70RaedVO5Ox3oAVDq46wKtfpqsg42JqeV+EK0zWo+dZbfqIr4h n4BujH6sP7hqDoyCrMgnYlIWlt0+7ScBZuGI2Tundo75uu6sYy6+B0UjowTWyTKRfNeNDbHm/ HOHdtF7lzbXIwruGK0BPVuOVpJhJxBiEcolHGsSvIRH80NtJWN2TaLfwvjOdd+sRUHGnOK01B +RbaZlL5vf6zd6Rg3fym3ajLCF9nHhwnQHApwyF/gItiO0jmDZhjySFN6oK8y399dmTBlzrDM pakY8Fso4k1tMFO7mVrdQtcP5vACNMNWxas438WL3D/uNzUTIw00bKLp+lAg3O8r0VMZCQYtV zTCBCkGY/vdT5pr7VB2iFFIEC0bg3gMw4EO876ERCqfoIsPXrnbUi4bVRocVQYdgwqZI1G7GX 1+YLyi5/4Z2eIdj3Z40yhnrOTsST6dXQy+fDOgERa/PtgaosjcgwBHVIwvOaYs8t4S+yeykLM KNk0BrBujUnXEFraxRUYRGtUH6A6AIhBVl5BhNl1i0MDm8hpGE11mBNyqdOrykQl/JoOspZQX e/+aBzUvBafLcdxN5vavjXjL6jNBTQwlEGsKzOgNlxVkm0icg64ZfOHGGBL5je7VPCdmJ/kZF JDHOUPb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > No, it fails to position the initial frame period. I start > one emacs on the "default/initial" screen, another a few > screens away. Neither obeys the command line position. I was confused by your earlier text ... >> them on desk 1/page 1 and desk1/page 5 of my FVWM >> configuration, and they both start on desk 1/page 1, at the ... and so I now presume that the desk/page specifications have no relevance to the problem. Right? >> Does positioning a new frame in a running Emacs session via >> (make-frame '((left . x) (top . y))) > > Just tried it with x and y within the physical desktop and a > few screens away and neither worked. Aha. So let's concentrate on 'make-frame' from a running Emacs session to avoid dealing with the startup rigmarole. > However, if I kill fvwm and use make-frame, it WORKS! Even > off screen, which I can see when I restart fvwm. > > This is interesting, as I'm running the same fvwm as with > the previous emacs, where this worked. Also xterms position > themselves properly. Just tried glxgears, mplayer and it > works with those too. Xv works within the physical screen, > it doesn't off-screen. > > Maybe Emacs changed the way it requests the screen position > to a way that fvwm doesn't like. I'll need to try with > another window manager. We already have a new window manager dependent issue with Bug#31745. Just that fvwm is not listed there IIRC. martin
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.15320689619886 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: emacs@HIDDEN Cc: 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.15320689619886 (code B ref 32207); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2018 06:42:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48737 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fgP7g-0002ZO-UJ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:42:41 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:56915) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fgP7e-0002Z9-MY for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 02:42:39 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.162.73.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MbgWb-1fPhBV2myD-00J2lv; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:42:32 +0200 Message-ID: <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:42:22 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:l5OQazOE5kS0lRItujjWXNnfSv5aEGD+VsHvo+qamJI2ttbD3J1 o1sDOKVnT/+b5fi1r++3bB6H5un9vBZwueEO7q7DGOFM6MC+W8ssqOeyDY+Nly5Si6VH5Ve USxwOsyChm9P/uPhhohRum3nQwuFMPr+9iHh2FKcazvQZLNtFc9V1x6kH8LA/nJxcxWuGjY HtiCGUrXBNtuhmr41iSsw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KCfF8PvsaJU=:7OyAUr1c9HHjnTMoyP/Gqq 1FDO/JC8p+0RPFLFmIOliC2zFQMXqginUBaWn8A30LYUK1mt5ohHC7+oLGzRUjOJFChTAPEbM Fpq0NfmrizWXl5YFFwmWr+zX6+Kkq+jWuc4zhYcKQYgIm8MOAfxd0uZC1EBkmW7T7G0THepML CWZaF41WowSxctZDS/Wb13NkSCL2AJb38dH7PnoW9eZqDzszao96HSuVp5AqDQtc+2s6dgvVU UWHanoMLSQvXL5DJTe7PJvPAe55fPnBi1YoZg7VyA2zD16Izgxpu0E7uB5NgheAn4u/WbPIj3 K+FGzXb+AdWRbvnH0zDWEajxCQf26WGTtVDnS4bgMG4HKp8c2Fd3LDRjHsu2lGBLyXGRVEadT qLFUZaqeeyTAfLxO4SXS2oV7VydovWArPjBE1pMCYON7/FsL1+qr0DVxmMQwaPd792S6lEYxi dU2KXm6HUwBmYxISF05+qaK7VIgTWNPfg9pI8KU7ujNqCL7rprm6O7Jq0NJBndowLvOzgyjOe RqBNITW6dqiHTJzHrKj2+cz83O6HMbgYCzrlDKVq4VvukQwivIm+N6WCfVOjlcsMapKQNwTFQ rbLxUqGKsf4AGTPDpZq47cDF4LZMGDB6XbemSoQKShPBiJGJfrqwOU2LcSBHs5kxRabkZUxpE pjHWQL5UlwN1BM59d+9rnaRIGqlF9xppo8KjrXmzDLrpkaPZh4YBH25sG2cZUzTofvD4GQaE9 PBqCGQSe1ZkRBKNIjuRYY1lNyrRKchlc44xJP8+2v4B51NXPyXxEZqNthuKFA9h2vLXz0SmDt AuLlFpA X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Looking at fvwm's log I see this message when starting emacs: > [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> reason: 6: The > hints have been ignored because the window's current size > would have become invalid. This hints at yet another sizing problem. What happens when you specify size _and_ position via say (make-frame '((top . 100) (left . 100) (width . 50) (height . 10))) > The new hints will become > active when the window generates the next ConfigureRequest. > > I don't remember seeing this message before. > > If I turn fvwm's: > BugOpts ExplainWindowPlacement True > > When I start emacs as: > emacs -Q -g 80x40+500+500 > I get this explanation: > [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x1800142 'emacs@...': > initial size 764x780 > desk 0 (current desk) > current page > position 20 40, placed by fvwm (ignored program specified position) > placement method: TileCascade Can you try with "Tile Manual Placement" instead of "Tile Cascade"? I suppose that Tile Cascade means that the window manager is allowed to (or even should) override the application's request. > Similarly for -geometry 80x40+500+500, and --geometry=80x40+500+500 > > When I start an xterm as: > xterm -geometry 80x40+500+500 > I get this one: > [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x1800025 'xterm': > initial size 816x839 > desk 0 (current desk) > current page > position 500 500 (used user specified position) > > For xterm, fvwm says "user specified", for emacs it says "program specified". > This and the IgnoredHints above may have something to do with it. Then maybe (make-frame '((user-position . t) (top . 100) (left . 100))) will do? martin
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[73.93.166.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h124-v6sm2009935oif.15.2018.07.20.13.10.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.martins.cc (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by monster.martins.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73A60145; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Henrique Martins <henrique@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> message dated "Fri, 20 Jul 2018 08:42:22 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6110.1532117405.1@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:10:05 -0700 Message-ID: <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 16:25:56 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > What happens when you specify size _and_ position via say > (make-frame '((top . 100) (left . 100) (width . 50) (height . 10))) Same thing. Size is obeyed, position is ignored. > Can you try with "Tile Manual Placement" instead of "Tile > Cascade"? Doesn't work too well, as it results in the I need to position every window manually. (Fvwm puts up a wire frame for me drag.) > (make-frame '((user-position . t) (top . 100) (left . 100))) This works fine. Fvwm now claims "used user specified position" -- Henrique
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.153215903830239 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Henrique Martins <henrique@HIDDEN> Cc: 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, emacs@HIDDEN Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.153215903830239 (code B ref 32207); Sat, 21 Jul 2018 07:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2018 07:43:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fgmYX-0007rf-V8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:43:58 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:43103) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fgmYW-0007rH-60 for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:43:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.162.73.132]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7UUd-1fucJ029Rv-00xIkj; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 09:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: <5B52E433.2030002@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 09:43:47 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Ah5mRCOdOkJB8OL9WBJ/hPl0J7CYbzoIu+qPm4yhC3iqyyEJyxX nR9JirtgNhc1Rt5R4jsMK4UrljHRKwr4UASLEiPRIJ+gwd659HCnb+3pOT8NQDmAzRJgaql qeQIbLhCto42LsRZIqtuv998Yl92pFUdRWVA3rflX/LIaUIR/UFgWB2Gi1yw1IJMswY1YBQ SwSCbxwFIyb0DMqQQYJDw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XRTunaZRVH4=:6Mi+a4xTqOyIwg68OsHY9i c3n4xpxzlhHf8qlmbiQ5hinOQ48EbZ/q6bHDnwf5Q+FRCuCxlCv9hy5e/OVaUGueOOwBdUzIR g8gWME8ZojfU5UGJEJriBo5O2MRALVYs0AXdhhW1zqiQwbMjo0XhHVvjBpcapq0aTRxt1LOk8 xHUrZ02EdtPpwRIYaFGN/R9gKljsc4WRBaIw8AT07iPOn46ExzWxYXTr54OL3gYfTxSkS388g oFcPU8hOGhgDfUBLgxTv/FD1hWRHr04tde7ta4Ni9BqUxPhs6OfVuxrSFBfCflf3OlMyUvfik NAHbbadmZ7xb2nhzCUUP8zTZ5M508Mack4r99bdBjIzJzezGWdTUmiw/c8IyGhiQo7jPvKyqV vbtL1BFcwGbLoX9hxaS1ScmYkzkv/lfdhAMtrGeWL44wbycD8omACTr5pAXIoIYiJoBlEIJUL Uj7w2GA3XOsxwEB7inwFKIpxNMxeLDKR8iz87PCOKx0NiOWg3a3yKOCxB/sOXQR/LvAezOq+T aYWpoj1j+ei+P4VCyV5sU/xSpZTOXOL8JU3ajrTNhvGQRqDVTE9c3MA/f+DSfCyG1QWIHPWSq DNPEDDVB9pGuHvd6+r0BOMhX64isqMjWpiJEqN3QP9leoNxG4ZGGVOYjHgFFxtr4aH7xIMILx n35TQAlTH0v63Zu6MOl2lWiqNe5dgPoExGCIl2onxfaEUivZ23CkoBNOQFpUcT1Kik2wdp6J7 a16320/VpqQl5YkRm2KUXEpwSXwihizQiC9jbEaHWk5gJfVHlTPpV7aHXCa+Y8DIkcAz6Pf3p 7trGot8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> Can you try with "Tile Manual Placement" instead of "Tile >> Cascade"? > > Doesn't work too well, as it results in the I need to > position every window manually. (Fvwm puts up a wire frame > for me drag.) But the Emacs window gets placed as intended. Right? >> (make-frame '((user-position . t) (top . 100) (left . 100))) > > This works fine. Fvwm now claims "used user specified position" Good. Can you make it work for the initial frame as well? martin
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X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5984.1532281696.1@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 10:48:16 -0700 Message-ID: <5985.1532281696@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> Can you try with "Tile Manual Placement" instead of "Tile >>> Cascade"? >> Doesn't work too well, as it results in the I need to >> position every window manually. (Fvwm puts up a wire frame >> for me drag.) > But the Emacs window gets placed as intended. Right? No, random position or top-left at the middle of the screen, can't remember exactly. And it still requires me to place the window, which is not going to work very well if I want to move it several screens over. >>> (make-frame '((user-position . t) (top . 100) (left . 100))) >> This works fine. Fvwm now claims "used user specified position" > Good. Can you make it work for the initial frame as well? How do I make it work for the initial frame, under "emacs -Q"? I know (and knew) I can customize my initialization to place the windows where I want them, or give them different titles and have FVWM place them according to it, that's not the point. The question was more why can't emacs 26 obey the CLI argument, as documented in the man page, when emacs 25 could. -- Henrique
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X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <17222.1532461092.1@HIDDEN> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 12:38:12 -0700 Message-ID: <17223.1532461092@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > I couldn't tell. If you run Emacs 25 and 26 in parallel... Compiled 25 and ran "emacs -Q -g ...'. It places the window fine, but ... Shell warnings: --------------- (emacs:23708): Gtk-WARNING **: 10:59:27.659: gtk_window_parse_geometry() called on a window with no visible children; the window should be set up before gtk_window_parse_geometry() is called. Fvwm warnings (some duplicated for some reason): ------------------------------------------------ [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x600122 'emacs@...': initial size 404x420 desk 0 (current desk) current page position 400 400 (used user specified position) [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> reason: 6: The hints have been i= gnored because the window's current size would have become invalid. The n= ew hints will become active when the window generates the next ConfigureRe= quest. [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> The application window (id 0x600= 122) "emacs@..." has broken size hints (inconsistent with current size). fvwm is ignoring those hints. hint override =3D 0, flags =3D 350 min_width =3D 41, min_height =3D 84, max_width =3D 41, max_height =3D 84 width_inc =3D 9, height_inc =3D 18 min_aspect =3D 0/0, max_aspect =3D 0/0 base_width =3D 41, base_height =3D 84 win_gravity =3D 1 If you are having a problem with the application, send a bug report with this message included to the application owner. There is no need to notify fvwm-workers@HIDDEN [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> reason: 6: The hints have been i= gnored because the window's current size would have become invalid. The n= ew hints will become active when the window generates the next ConfigureRe= quest. [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> The application window (id 0x600= 122) "emacs@..." has broken size hints (inconsistent with current size). fvwm is ignoring those hints. hint override =3D 0, flags =3D 350 min_width =3D 41, min_height =3D 84, max_width =3D 41, max_height =3D 84 width_inc =3D 9, height_inc =3D 18 min_aspect =3D 0/0, max_aspect =3D 0/0 base_width =3D 41, base_height =3D 84 win_gravity =3D 1 If you are having a problem with the application, send a bug report with this message included to the application owner. There is no need to notify fvwm-workers@HIDDEN Thus the position and size are fine, but it does generate a lot of warnings! -- Henrique
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What are the -g specifications? > It places the window > fine, but ... > > Shell warnings: > --------------- > (emacs:23708): Gtk-WARNING **: 10:59:27.659: > gtk_window_parse_geometry() called on a window with no > visible children; the window should be set up before > gtk_window_parse_geometry() is called. This is to be expected (see Bug#25851 for further details) and should have been solved for Emacs 26. > Fvwm warnings (some duplicated for some reason): > ------------------------------------------------ > [fvwm.0][__explain_placement]: placed new window 0x600122 'emacs@...': > initial size 404x420 > desk 0 (current desk) > current page > position 400 400 (used user specified position) > > [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> reason: 6: The hints have been ignored because the window's current size would have become invalid. The new hints will become active when the window generates the next ConfigureRequest. > > [fvwm.0][GetWindowSizeHints]: <<WARNING>> The application window (id 0x600122) > "emacs@..." has broken size hints (inconsistent with current size). > fvwm is ignoring those hints. hint override = 0, flags = 350 > min_width = 41, min_height = 84, max_width = 41, max_height = 84 > width_inc = 9, height_inc = 18 > min_aspect = 0/0, max_aspect = 0/0 > base_width = 41, base_height = 84 > win_gravity = 1 [...] > > Thus the position and size are fine, but it does generate a > lot of warnings! I have no idea what kind of "inconsistency" fvwm means here. It is possible that 18 * 84 which gives 1512 pixels + 400 which gives 1912 pixels is too high for your screen. Anyway, it seems that Emacs 25 while coming up with the intended position/size does not behave correctly either. Let's do away with -g and resources for the moment and try starting Emacs as follows: emacs -Q --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 41) (height . 84) (left . 400) (top . 400)))" Do Emacs 25 and Emacs 26 behave differently and are there any warnings? Thanks, martin
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[73.93.166.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q3-v6sm2911414itc.22.2018.07.25.13.14.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.martins.cc (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by monster.martins.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4990260221; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Henrique Martins <emacs@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <5B5816ED.2010702@HIDDEN> References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> <5B52E433.2030002@HIDDEN> <5985.1532281696@HIDDEN> <5B557AF4.4050200@HIDDEN> <17223.1532461092@HIDDEN> <5B5816ED.2010702@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> message dated "Wed, 25 Jul 2018 08:21:33 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <16135.1532549666.1@HIDDEN> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 13:14:26 -0700 Message-ID: <16136.1532549666@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Compiled 25 and ran "emacs -Q -g ...'. >> It places the window fine > What are the -g specifications? emacs -Q -g 40x20+400+400 > It is possible that 18 * 84 which gives 1512 pixels + 400 > which gives 1912 pixels is too high for your screen. The created frame is well within my 1920x1080 screen > Let's do away with -g and resources for the moment and try > starting Emacs as follows: > > emacs -Q --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 41) (height . 84) = (left . 400) (top . 400)))" I used emacs -Q --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 40) (height . 20) = (left . 400) (top . 400)))" to match the above. With Emacs 25 it ends up in the correct position, but sizes are messed up. The initial scratch window occupies some top left portion of the window, with matching size menubars and scrollbars in the middle of the window :-) and rest of frame blank. Emacs 26 works perfectly! even with off-screen positions. I'll added this to my .xclients script (though -g ought to work) and will check next time I need to restart X. -- Henrique PS: Adding "(user-position . t)" to the -F argument of calls to emacsclient to place frames in my other three screens, seems to also put them where I want them too.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.153259178711108 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Henrique Martins <emacs@HIDDEN> Cc: 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.153259178711108 (code B ref 32207); Thu, 26 Jul 2018 07:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jul 2018 07:56:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58134 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fib8N-0002t6-9N for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 03:56:27 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:43827) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fib8L-0002su-9r for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 03:56:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.100]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKqOW-1fib8D3sTw-0001E7; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:56:18 +0200 Message-ID: <5B597E96.90109@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:56:06 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> <5B52E433.2030002@HIDDEN> <5985.1532281696@HIDDEN> <5B557AF4.4050200@HIDDEN> <17223.1532461092@HIDDEN> <5B5816ED.2010702@HIDDEN> <16136.1532549666@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <16136.1532549666@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:jC9lL7W7vH7uOi6XLQJIq8IKh40RU2CP4JXTHogBUVPCiaCtzqx f+m2ISTh+enYgIuDHmTHW0qbp5f6v2avU4IcNzxxT01cGnOCCOlpBC+1j7zNkmjdT7prCng qBPxWokGXMc6hdukgrHrg5Ha7lbLJYz8bTNe0nwB+RGiX7M9Hw7K9a5/qgjUwYSQIuAMXlF b5VEce66yID7uCgN8Eytg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:kBRWZ9PtkVA=:vIECyLihJnOSUcqr55Wq1H h1OkDuXe21DKESPeSyyIyKGNvfvGmMsvw2oKr5gZ/NNBQWdzKX2LtgpmhNP98olosgoHm1ytC VMRYnzy5zWPb91EuIEOXw9HZrWzdVwUuWdzKzur8X6lws7mH+wlp9drEi+Ra28bkwOIqgUryU EMM+zGQWNWawcgPldf4syGl45jGd6wlMZPsN+nH+2fe8nVAe+OEQhG8LBONeNtSfo891H2Zek TfqcwmPCTODFTVaUZfervwrJULWolG2DHrASVPO4M3udlKWgyMLl+mOFyBrlwy0t3k4uCQAkC VS69g+yCn+3Cd3gUvn3Fw8iCG+SIU92ObW499WoUVZYOG9c92WL2/36ESSHRtVnmsIYfCtNf1 Fw6YAkLmYMFZ5q65A1/PQIH0d7ytiYzB3q9y3JEd+vEStkwAeDb+NKWr5+zkthm87xR4OPgc5 b94fkbswpIOxgCZzl6SXPdf2AI2nyMWvZBNnBUAIX88KBlUVfXnAogBYXjL4kK88sHRa0M1ID /6chiPL2Vvag7jiDvHtXH7EWXDoRh6rxh3LU//WxTeq+Mh8MxxeWHjPxj7XDFdj+6vHa3uJGI hJ/QtnydxdHdgI8VIacykw71EokWC14ROvfKwW7xqYOMxfjb+na0N8dUpf9//ZzFm6v7f4rrL U0bqgBqR9L2gUroSigOEUAZdtXxqB1Rv2cnDUSYvsXaBqBfze/0rjUyc8JXzyTKY/HHQlsrJZ alXYFd2lTek67MQes/cXYeP+nVdEGqekYEniQMvB0iqrx3qcojESCv9RAS/32N4Gh7LlL1cKl +4H6dsb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I used > emacs -Q --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 40) (height . 20) (left . 400) (top . 400)))" > to match the above. [...] > Emacs 26 works perfectly! even with off-screen positions. Does that work _without_ specifying 'user-position'? > I'll added this to my .xclients script (though -g ought to > work) and will check next time I need to restart X. It seems we have to add a 'user-position' and/or 'user-size' specification when parsing geometry specifications. I have no idea what happens when -g and X resources get mixed. Does -g work when you specify a non-nil 'user-position' in your X resources file? Also as far as resources are concerned we automatically add a 'user-position' and a 'user-size' parameter when a 'top' or 'left' resource has been specified. We do nothing when just a 'width' or 'height' resource has been specified. I don't understand the rationale of that and it never has been explained anywhere. > PS: Adding "(user-position . t)" to the -F argument of calls > to emacsclient to place frames in my other three screens, > seems to also put them where I want them too. Hopefully. martin
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[73.93.166.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k132-v6sm542915vka.17.2018.07.26.12.36.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monster.martins.cc (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by monster.martins.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CC860221; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) From: emacs@HIDDEN In-reply-to: <5B597E96.90109@HIDDEN> References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> <5B52E433.2030002@HIDDEN> <5985.1532281696@HIDDEN> <5B557AF4.4050200@HIDDEN> <17223.1532461092@HIDDEN> <5B5816ED.2010702@HIDDEN> <16136.1532549666@HIDDEN> <5B597E96.90109@HIDDEN> Comments: In-reply-to martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> message dated "Thu, 26 Jul 2018 09:56:06 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7.1; GNU Emacs 26.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <32573.1532633813.1@HIDDEN> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:36:53 -0700 Message-ID: <32574.1532633813@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> emacs -Q --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 40) (height . = 20) (left . 400) (top . 400)))" >> Emacs 26 works perfectly! even with off-screen positions. > Does that work _without_ specifying 'user-position'? Yes, though I should qualify the "perfectly!" above. - there is an initial frame that seems to be placed by fvwm, at a position of the window manager's choice - the initial frame is then moves to the position specified in the command line. - the moves comes almost immediately after the intial placement, resulting in a flashing effect. > Does -g work when you specify a non-nil 'user-position' in > your X resources file? Can't get emacs 25 or 26 to obey resources. I've tried by editing my files, xrdb'ing, and running emacs -Q --xrm=3D'emacs.geometry=3DWxH' the initial frame always comes up as 79x35 -- Henrique
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#32207: 26.1; can't set window position with emacs 26.3 Resent-From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.32207.B32207.153268330614630 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32207 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: emacs@HIDDEN Cc: 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 32207-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B32207.153268330614630 (code B ref 32207); Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 32207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2018 09:21:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fiywU-0003nu-9O for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 05:21:46 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:32927) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1fiywS-0003ng-Cg for 32207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 05:21:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.132]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ld1CS-1gQo8O2wz2-00iBY8; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:21:36 +0200 Message-ID: <5B5AE413.20807@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:21:23 +0200 From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13991.1531957318@HIDDEN> <5B5049B0.6070804@HIDDEN> <4103.1532006778@HIDDEN> <17334.1532030218@HIDDEN> <5B51844E.2060301@HIDDEN> <6111.1532117405@HIDDEN> <5B52E433.2030002@HIDDEN> <5985.1532281696@HIDDEN> <5B557AF4.4050200@HIDDEN> <17223.1532461092@HIDDEN> <5B5816ED.2010702@HIDDEN> <16136.1532549666@HIDDEN> <5B597E96.90109@HIDDEN> <32574.1532633813@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <32574.1532633813@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uKCmluETazwzt+nPJyrQO+BdY/saIQYLAtp9fxFMgKGqE4vpF7c yI4A03a6Q30KuoNZzKvofA4JC03xy1nifJaUUTrnxBX/fbSp0CJvpOjpFCVwe/MHdowcL+g QovnNm6tUDm6qB9e98ClLMAgWMSFkZ6FXJOAv3oRZYHhHUWSsWk4CxvRV/ac+4biRtMfIWv T45nWNGVq9dMP6n0OhdqA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:21MydSZNtJI=:ssgOVBR4BSXt/hYIjAt/jA e3K3wPpy93qKqMxbtkZ0AYAAYu1PbpUFxv23si4qZ8UrxNwH2emFD9qPd741dVoGLt1AEZC7R E2uiCjZGZ/l7+teTZ4jDeLLIUz5UNNjzkk59mZThB+XxETGs2chkrkMUG6udDEJuLUF/AGxqC Wq3OAyHS7g+IDjtqCrEI3k2Eo6ZJJcrPZIJwy5fezBbc956vyAF3rVh4fT5iZd84HmJTQy6TD uQkho6FsewYY1MLQQfTjK13E0bc9ZwDU9kvXmhmgpeRhU5p5qGxKOav09H1KLTYCQDHw55Qt9 LiSy++vqZv+vB/4rhKUa02TZLXYrYRT42+WJLC+eSJo/ul3hhe8eCyXEavSejWr9WSq578y9m Fwg1BoPWxhC9yD9OXhcr0mObxTBLqbjmieWODC0JB5GWmrl7vh7B8vxq7wD6jP8mQVmUFcs8Z X/CClbdo8tbNM0WWmIRkIET8dmVTBRMTKweUjJ9EhzaIcKlSHivNHpoS3KQ0hoF3j/zTqlkLO EhlZ/T9J2Oz7ECFT7qoNeNmc3P/adEGC0iYOa1ysSHljWJQdQWM7gaeWcP6hznwrnQwIpqa7w G96RTLBn5rfuvCGhq30gPShVAakkhusqmsf0KBwvQjS8y/1kJz/oPZTRfdpoH74dwaXrUe9N1 fTEmrTh4dpZjNN+VkDKCpa9AYEleEy1LPMmkC4ghaFyLNmWitF7nI5doJsXfC+ryAb/af1zeo xy9b8YWTVGgqVZxB3M4RWrj2doAariJWzJtjFRRQPizUKbNHHfoWSqvpIFV8/NFnY7CrYIIZa 8ItnigW X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) > Yes, though I should qualify the "perfectly!" above. > - there is an initial frame that seems to be placed by fvwm, > at a position of the window manager's choice > - the initial frame is then moves to the position specified > in the command line. > - the moves comes almost immediately after the intial > placement, resulting in a flashing effect. The initial frame serves to display any messages that might be produced when evaluating your .emacs or init.el file. With Emacs 27 you can put the 'initial-frame-alist' specification into an early-init.el file which is loaded before the initial frame is made by the window system and gets the parameters applied right there. I doubt that this will always make correct geometry calculations but the flashing effect should disappear. martin
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is not a contributon to the above discussion but another workaround th= an using emacs --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 40) (height . 20) (left = . 400) (top . 400)))" I too suffered exactly the same position/placement problem when I upgraded = my Debian 9 to Debian 10, with my old fvwm-configuration that has worked fo= r a decade. My workaround is to use emacs-lucid instead of emacs-gtk. In emacs-lucid the window placement is working fine. Also, as a positive side-effect, the emacs-lucid window is updated at light= ning speed when I switch desktops, while the emacs-gtk window is first upda= ting the window and then re-draw the text in the frame, generating a very n= oticeable motion on the screen. --_000_HE1PR0102MB27643D0205C9E92A81B6BE21BC500HE1PR0102MB2764_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bo= ttom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> This is not a contributon to the above discussion but another workaround th= an using <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <span>emacs --eval "(setq initial-frame-alist '((width . 40) (height .= 20) (left . 400) (top . 400)))"<br> </span><span></span></div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> I too suffered exactly the same position/placement problem when I upgraded = my Debian 9 to Debian 10, with my old fvwm-configuration that has worked fo= r a decade.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> My workaround is to use emacs-lucid instead of emacs-gtk.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> In emacs-lucid the window placement is working fine.</div> <div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Also, as a positive side-effect, the emacs-lucid window is updated at light= ning speed when I switch desktops, while the emacs-gtk window is first upda= ting the window and then re-draw the text in the frame, generating a very n= oticeable motion on the screen.<br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_HE1PR0102MB27643D0205C9E92A81B6BE21BC500HE1PR0102MB2764_--
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