Received: (at 33270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2018 07:56:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 06 02:56:10 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35959 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gJwDZ-0004KO-Vt for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 02:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com ([209.85.166.52]:38726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <boskovits@HIDDEN>) id 1gJwDY-0004KB-82 for 33270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 02:56:08 -0500 Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id q18-v6so8548537iod.5 for <33270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 23:56:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGMbMND8pY7n3mtgBdlQFhaE3/wCv8SorDKNOBY+i+Q=; b=nWnZk3ujwcEStxoySMsLcMMQvhMkghdH5eaAK65bduVeKf4dFFpBpa3rYt2nfhGdCi fmxRR6bVYLjU3VKwytlaN6OGpFF33Ag/grTePe+JUYqszhvLljBc6jKKr/XhZ+e4l02M Q4j+qdBNQZKxvrGnLU2Fnj/80uqG+eYwQtvev49WR8bSA5GtM/sgd0SwTaK+LvIucdzp qhT9L+37yfqamXqZifist2AiPdc43DqDBdR2j2PaZwp+GikrH6qipRQLTTPYR6ieqsu0 owD5d44szlLPT2VAD5/E654vs+7dbbYWH/Uh68yV64/YelucMn9BzAdICAcy0ysVNLnA qtXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGMbMND8pY7n3mtgBdlQFhaE3/wCv8SorDKNOBY+i+Q=; b=bmrTbhdGcSUiZhh8aHcxv7/vx3UJvV8Muc2AaLKMQjkCOFCGFKzsbHR66yCSYd/VLl mCP77VRoB91rV6jInkaCB/UI3CCcARBhmq4rpQnBp0y+Vq9cHPBjUEEK7YcvgnQgP32+ mfwkuvZ+JGcsi2CU+tPeU/Gt9wXWSk/fT/UICE0foUyPj1XJZOlNWiEuBo3pB2LXWy47 62PsA3z3YKrq85Dj2j1P2F7WbvR8W2ZgQ/azhDl3JjgLMdICrpmQjw8dwVAi22Qe5a48 M2aRaw6mU7CYXuFYgWwN5uBtP/uKXCAdM86dE9qJMT09b2/mDDZBEPjbDIdwVbxQGeun uMtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJUrTOODKQV2GlvFz8zNGGP2R03Zj11DUsKNXsVxb9a0m8+Dn0h R78Nbw7sJ2Mir0g/23+QSuuQ5rV28ASozntLDTrtzhE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fzrhTMlRk3Ws8o3+jLtNvIOQSD4aimjXNJcMqto1lHO2EzOLI5uJLzls2cFXXGXGdovxMJEGQiN0FNORflx0I= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e009:: with SMTP id z9-v6mr21179842iog.44.1541490962468; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 23:56:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <cbab21da-6492-571e-f078-69ae920b9f70@HIDDEN> <87muqnwbj0.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAE4v=phMy1QLf+T5VyP+9h8wN5xG+xrXHVqcAWQTUgiP9Rhi2g@HIDDEN> <20181105234944.305ce816@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20181105234944.305ce816@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?G=C3=A1bor_Boskovits?= <boskovits@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:55:49 +0100 Message-ID: <CAE4v=piKq6+fGenF-=9RabBBs_8X2hGsDV8iH+maqYayZbEW4g@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#33270: [SHEPHERD] Wrong error message when missing priviledge To: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33270 Cc: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN>, 33270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello Danny, Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> ezt =C3=ADrta (id=C5=91pont: 2= 018. nov. 5., H, 23:49): > > Hi Gabor, > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 22:57:15 +0100 > G=C3=A1bor Boskovits <boskovits@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > > sdb@komputilo ~$ herd status > > > > error: connect: /run/user/30011/shepherd/socket: No such file or di= rectory > > > > Actually this seems to be a message that can be translated to > > 'shepherd user instance is not running' am I correct? > > Yes, that's what it means. For a UNIX error message, what it's saying > is actually quite close to what it really means. :) > > I would suggest to keep the file name in the error message anyway, > but no harm in adding some extra information (it will slightly complicate > the socket discovery code, but that's okay. Also, right now profiles can > actually set up XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to point somewhere else and make herd con= nect > to the profile's shepherd's socket - which is nice, but is not really a *= user" > shepherd then anymore). > > Also, we should suppress the stack trace for this specific error since it > really doesn't add anything useful. > > > > The error could be that either the user=E2=80=99s instance is not run= ning or > > > that the user meant to communicate with the init system. It is not > > > obvious to me how to distinguish these two errors. > > I don't think it's possible to distinguish these. > > It would be possible to make herd fallback to the system shepherd if it c= an't > find the stuff in the user shepherd, but I'm not sure I'd like it. I would not like this either. > > Better, we could add "--user" and "--system" options to force herd to con= nect to > some specific shepherd regardless of user, at the cost of hard-coding tha= t there > are only these two (which is not actually the case - shepherd is meant to= be > used in a modular way and doesn't care one way or another how often and w= here > exactly you run it). Could we instead just give a hint like, "if you intended to communicate wit= h the system shepherd, please specify -s system_sepherd_socket_name_here on you command"? > > It's kinda weird to have different endpoints depending on whether one is = root or > not, but as a default it has precedent in both dbus and systemd. > > I think people can get used to it (we should document it).
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Full text available.Received: (at 33270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2018 22:49:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 05 17:49:54 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35826 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1gJngv-0007oJ-QX for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:49:53 -0500 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:56558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <dannym@HIDDEN>) id 1gJngu-0007oB-1f for 33270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 17:49:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (178.113.175.117.wireless.dyn.drei.com [178.113.175.117]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FF443360156; Mon, 5 Nov 2018 23:49:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 23:49:44 +0100 From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= Boskovits <boskovits@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#33270: [SHEPHERD] Wrong error message when missing priviledge Message-ID: <20181105234944.305ce816@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAE4v=phMy1QLf+T5VyP+9h8wN5xG+xrXHVqcAWQTUgiP9Rhi2g@HIDDEN> References: <cbab21da-6492-571e-f078-69ae920b9f70@HIDDEN> <87muqnwbj0.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAE4v=phMy1QLf+T5VyP+9h8wN5xG+xrXHVqcAWQTUgiP9Rhi2g@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.1 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/taKn3+hmf50MIS2Fjd5S07T"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 33270 Cc: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN>, 33270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) --Sig_/taKn3+hmf50MIS2Fjd5S07T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gabor, On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 22:57:15 +0100 G=C3=A1bor Boskovits <boskovits@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > sdb@komputilo ~$ herd status > > > error: connect: /run/user/30011/shepherd/socket: No such file or dire= ctory =20 >=20 > Actually this seems to be a message that can be translated to > 'shepherd user instance is not running' am I correct? Yes, that's what it means. For a UNIX error message, what it's saying is actually quite close to what it really means. :) I would suggest to keep the file name in the error message anyway, but no harm in adding some extra information (it will slightly complicate the socket discovery code, but that's okay. Also, right now profiles can actually set up XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to point somewhere else and make herd conne= ct to the profile's shepherd's socket - which is nice, but is not really a *us= er" shepherd then anymore). Also, we should suppress the stack trace for this specific error since it really doesn't add anything useful. > > The error could be that either the user=E2=80=99s instance is not runni= ng or > > that the user meant to communicate with the init system. It is not > > obvious to me how to distinguish these two errors. I don't think it's possible to distinguish these. It would be possible to make herd fallback to the system shepherd if it can= 't find the stuff in the user shepherd, but I'm not sure I'd like it. Better, we could add "--user" and "--system" options to force herd to conne= ct to some specific shepherd regardless of user, at the cost of hard-coding that = there are only these two (which is not actually the case - shepherd is meant to be used in a modular way and doesn't care one way or another how often and whe= re exactly you run it). It's kinda weird to have different endpoints depending on whether one is ro= ot or not, but as a default it has precedent in both dbus and systemd. 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