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The u-boot package definition includes openssl amoung it's inputs, but
is also a GPL2+ software project... but the GPL and OpenSSL licenses are
incompatible:

  https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpenSSL

It doesn't explain the details of *why* they're incompatibly, which is
astoundingly unhelpful. The best explanation I've found is here:

  https://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html

Essentially, the Openssl/SSLeay license(s) place additional restrictions
requiring "advertising" clause when distributing in binary form, while
the GPL forbids placing additional restrictions on distribution.

I'm not sure if there's a simple way to search for other packages with
license:gpl and openssl as an input in order to do a quick pass at
auditing... some packages may use the openssl binary as part of the
build process or tests, and not linking any GPLed code against it; in
those cases there would be no license conflict.

Since I believe the incompatibility is only invoked when distributing
binaries, GNU Guix may be in an interesting position to at least make a
simple workaround for affected packages by using:

  (arguments `(#:substitutable? #f))

Thus disabling substitutes. Though it poses a curious philosophical
question weather that is an acceptible/appropriate workaround for GNU
Guix...

In the Debian u-boot packaging, some of the features using openssl are
disabled, and some of the u-boot targets that require openssl are not
part of the packages. I'd be happy to help with making such adjustments
if this is deemed the better approach for u-boot specifically.

Other more long-term approaches:

Patch (and submit upstream) the affected packages to support using other
GPL compatible libraries, such as gnutls.

If upstream is reasonably able to add a license exception, that could
also resolve the issue:

  https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs

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Hi Vagrant,

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:

> The u-boot package definition includes openssl amoung it's inputs, but
> is also a GPL2+ software project... but the GPL and OpenSSL licenses are
> incompatible:
>
>   https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpenSSL

Thanks for bringing it up.

> I'm not sure if there's a simple way to search for other packages with
> license:gpl and openssl as an input in order to do a quick pass at
> auditing... some packages may use the openssl binary as part of the
> build process or tests, and not linking any GPLed code against it; in
> those cases there would be no license conflict.

openssl@HIDDEN has 7,029 dependent packages, so it may be hard to sort it
out.  I wonder what would be the best way to approach it.

> Since I believe the incompatibility is only invoked when distributing
> binaries, GNU Guix may be in an interesting position to at least make a
> simple workaround for affected packages by using:
>
>   (arguments `(#:substitutable? #f))
>
> Thus disabling substitutes. Though it poses a curious philosophical
> question weather that is an acceptible/appropriate workaround for GNU
> Guix...

Hmm yeah, that doesn=E2=80=99t sound right.  :-)

> In the Debian u-boot packaging, some of the features using openssl are
> disabled, and some of the u-boot targets that require openssl are not
> part of the packages. I'd be happy to help with making such adjustments
> if this is deemed the better approach for u-boot specifically.

That=E2=80=99d be great.  We could definitely remove the OpenSSL dependency=
 when
it=E2=80=99s not needed.

In cases where it is needed, it would be nice to see what it=E2=80=99s used
for.  Many projects use OpenSSL just for its cryptographic hash
functions, for example, and there=E2=80=99s plenty of options to choose fro=
m if
that=E2=80=99s all that=E2=80=99s needed (Gcrypt, Nettle, etc.).

I guess this should be discussed with upstream.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi,

> openssl@HIDDEN has 7,029 dependent packages, so it may be hard to sort it
> out.  I wonder what would be the best way to approach it.

I can't believe I seriously suggest the following but:

A license algebra and guix commands that automate part of the lawyering,
by using the "license" field of the packages, which would now have at
least "and-license" and "or-license" operators and maybe also finer-grained
ones, and a placeholder for "it's too difficult, sort it out manually"
(maybe just detect the list we have now as "it's too difficult").

If we do it, we should add a disclaimer that it doesn't replace the need
for legal counsel entirely.

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On 2019-03-06, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> The u-boot package definition includes openssl amoung it's inputs, but
>> is also a GPL2+ software project... but the GPL and OpenSSL licenses are
>> incompatible:
>>
>>   https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpenSSL
>
> Thanks for bringing it up.
>
>> I'm not sure if there's a simple way to search for other packages with
>> license:gpl and openssl as an input in order to do a quick pass at
>> auditing... some packages may use the openssl binary as part of the
>> build process or tests, and not linking any GPLed code against it; in
>> those cases there would be no license conflict.
>
> openssl@HIDDEN has 7,029 dependent packages, so it may be hard to sort it
> out.  I wonder what would be the best way to approach it.

How many of them are also license:gpl* though? That would hopefully
reduce the scope somewhat, or maybe even significantly...

If "guix package --search=3D ..." could be extended to to also search
other fields, e.g. license: and dependencies: ... it might not be so
difficult a search.


>> In the Debian u-boot packaging, some of the features using openssl are
>> disabled, and some of the u-boot targets that require openssl are not
>> part of the packages. I'd be happy to help with making such adjustments
>> if this is deemed the better approach for u-boot specifically.
>
> That=E2=80=99d be great.  We could definitely remove the OpenSSL dependen=
cy when
> it=E2=80=99s not needed.

For what it's worth, I did do local builds of all the current u-boot-*
targets in guix with openssl removed from inputs, and the only one that
failed to build without openssl was u-boot-tools.


> In cases where it is needed, it would be nice to see what it=E2=80=99s us=
ed
> for.  Many projects use OpenSSL just for its cryptographic hash
> functions, for example, and there=E2=80=99s plenty of options to choose f=
rom if
> that=E2=80=99s all that=E2=80=99s needed (Gcrypt, Nettle, etc.).

I think it is using it for generating and verifying rsa signatures, and
probably other similar basic things. So far I had only thought about
gnutls, but if gcrypt or nettle are other options, then so much the
better.

I briefly looked at gnutls's openssl compatibility layers, but it didn't
seem to implement sufficiently similar include files, which is largely
all that it is doing.


> I guess this should be discussed with upstream.

I did bring it upstream a little over a year ago, and the response was
pretty much to rewrite it with gnutls, and I pointed out the most likely
files that needed updating:

  https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-November/312483.html
  https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-December/313616.html
  https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-December/313742.html

I suspect it's pretty much a "patches accepted" sort of scenario.


live well,
  vagrant

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On 2019-03-06, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On 2019-03-06, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>> The u-boot package definition includes openssl amoung it's inputs, but
>>> is also a GPL2+ software project... but the GPL and OpenSSL licenses are
>>> incompatible:
>>>
>>>   https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OpenSSL
...
>>> In the Debian u-boot packaging, some of the features using openssl are
>>> disabled, and some of the u-boot targets that require openssl are not
>>> part of the packages. I'd be happy to help with making such adjustments
>>> if this is deemed the better approach for u-boot specifically.
>>
>> That=E2=80=99d be great.  We could definitely remove the OpenSSL depende=
ncy when
>> it=E2=80=99s not needed.
>
> For what it's worth, I did do local builds of all the current u-boot-*
> targets in guix with openssl removed from inputs, and the only one that
> failed to build without openssl was u-boot-tools.

I've tested that the attached patch builds all u-boot-* targets on
x86_64 (cross-building most of them), with openssl removed from
native-inputs.

Unfortunately, u-boot-tools fails it's tests on aarch64 and armhf, but
that appears to be the case with or without this patch, so it's no worse
off than it was...

I'm not sure where it would be appropriate to add more comments
regarding the GPL/Openssl incompatibilities; e.g. if someone were to
propose adding one of the u-boot targets that requires it, they might
just go ahead and re-add the openssl input...


live well,
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From=20ee613387c49ca60905e0a40af8af017828c8aec8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 21:50:58 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] gnu: u-boot: Remove openssl input.

Fixes: https://bugs.gnu.org/34717

* gnu/packages/bootloaders (u-boot): Remove openssl from native-inputs.
  (u-boot-tools): Disable FIT_SIGNATURES in tests.
=2D--
 gnu/packages/bootloaders.scm | 8 ++++++--
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gnu/packages/bootloaders.scm b/gnu/packages/bootloaders.scm
index b0617f452a..15953ab75e 100644
=2D-- a/gnu/packages/bootloaders.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/bootloaders.scm
@@ -391,7 +391,6 @@ tree binary files.  These are board description files u=
sed by Linux and BSD.")
        ("dtc" ,dtc)
        ("flex" ,flex)
        ("lz4" ,lz4)
=2D       ("openssl" ,openssl)
        ("python-2" ,python-2)
        ("python2-coverage" ,python2-coverage)
        ("python2-pytest" ,python2-pytest)
@@ -440,9 +439,14 @@ also initializes the boards (RAM etc).")
               (("def test_ctrl_c")
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 def test_ctrl_c"))
=2D             ;; This test requires a sound system, which is un-used in u=
-boot-tools.
              (for-each (lambda (file)
                               (substitute* file
+                                  ;; Disable signatures, due to GPL/Openssl
+                                  ;; license incompatibilities.  See
+                                  ;; https://bugs.gnu.org/34717 for detail=
s.
+                                  (("CONFIG_FIT_SIGNATURE=3Dy") "CONFIG_FI=
T_SIGNATURE=3Dn")
+                                  ;; This test requires a sound system, wh=
ich is un-used
+                                  ;; in u-boot-tools.
                                   (("CONFIG_SOUND=3Dy") "CONFIG_SOUND=3Dn"=
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Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I can't believe I seriously suggest the following but:
>
> A license algebra [...]

Yeah, licensing is anything but an algebra, so let=E2=80=99s not take that =
path.
:-)

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Hi

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:

> On 2019-03-06, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:

[...]

>> openssl@HIDDEN has 7,029 dependent packages, so it may be hard to sort it
>> out.  I wonder what would be the best way to approach it.
>
> How many of them are also license:gpl* though? That would hopefully
> reduce the scope somewhat, or maybe even significantly...
>
> If "guix package --search=3D ..." could be extended to to also search
> other fields, e.g. license: and dependencies: ... it might not be so
> difficult a search.

Here=E2=80=99s an estimate:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix package -s "" |recsel -e 'license ~ "GPL"' -e 'dependencies ~ "opens=
sl"' |grep ^name| wc -l
265
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

You can view the list of packages like this:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
guix package -s "" |recsel -e 'license ~ "GPL"' -e 'dependencies ~ "openssl=
"' -p name,version
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

>>> In the Debian u-boot packaging, some of the features using openssl are
>>> disabled, and some of the u-boot targets that require openssl are not
>>> part of the packages. I'd be happy to help with making such adjustments
>>> if this is deemed the better approach for u-boot specifically.
>>
>> That=E2=80=99d be great.  We could definitely remove the OpenSSL depende=
ncy when
>> it=E2=80=99s not needed.
>
> For what it's worth, I did do local builds of all the current u-boot-*
> targets in guix with openssl removed from inputs, and the only one that
> failed to build without openssl was u-boot-tools.

Not that bad!

>> In cases where it is needed, it would be nice to see what it=E2=80=99s u=
sed
>> for.  Many projects use OpenSSL just for its cryptographic hash
>> functions, for example, and there=E2=80=99s plenty of options to choose =
from if
>> that=E2=80=99s all that=E2=80=99s needed (Gcrypt, Nettle, etc.).
>
> I think it is using it for generating and verifying rsa signatures, and
> probably other similar basic things. So far I had only thought about
> gnutls, but if gcrypt or nettle are other options, then so much the
> better.
>
> I briefly looked at gnutls's openssl compatibility layers, but it didn't
> seem to implement sufficiently similar include files, which is largely
> all that it is doing.

Yeah, GnuTLS=E2=80=99 OpenSSL compat layer has been bitrotting since foreve=
r.

But really rather than GnuTLS they should target one of these crypto
libraries, which seem to be a better fit.

>> I guess this should be discussed with upstream.
>
> I did bring it upstream a little over a year ago, and the response was
> pretty much to rewrite it with gnutls, and I pointed out the most likely
> files that needed updating:
>
>   https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-November/312483.html
>   https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-December/313616.html
>   https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-December/313742.html
>
> I suspect it's pretty much a "patches accepted" sort of scenario.

I guess =E2=80=9Cwe=E2=80=9D should consider doing it at some point.  Chang=
ing the RSA
signature code to use another API can=E2=80=99t be that hard=E2=84=A2.  ;-)

I see from the message above that PEM encoding/decoding may also be
needed, which Gcrypt doesn=E2=80=99t provide.

Thanks,
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Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Here=E2=80=99s an estimate:

Oops, I was doing an =E2=80=9Cor=E2=80=9D instead of an =E2=80=9Cand=E2=80=
=9D; here=E2=80=99s the fix:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix package -s "" |recsel -e 'license ~ "GPL" && dependencies ~ "openssl=
"' |grep ^name | wc -l
154
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Still a lot, and that doesn=E2=80=99t take into account indirect GPL depend=
ents.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi,

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I've tested that the attached patch builds all u-boot-* targets on
> x86_64 (cross-building most of them), with openssl removed from
> native-inputs.
>
> Unfortunately, u-boot-tools fails it's tests on aarch64 and armhf, but
> that appears to be the case with or without this patch, so it's no worse
> off than it was...

This can be fixed separately then.

> I'm not sure where it would be appropriate to add more comments
> regarding the GPL/Openssl incompatibilities; e.g. if someone were to
> propose adding one of the u-boot targets that requires it, they might
> just go ahead and re-add the openssl input...

There=E2=80=99s always a risk.  I guess we=E2=80=99ll have to be careful wh=
en doing
reviews.

In addition, we can add a =E2=80=98lint=E2=80=99 checker for this case, WDY=
T?

> From ee613387c49ca60905e0a40af8af017828c8aec8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 21:50:58 +0000
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: u-boot: Remove openssl input.
>
> Fixes: https://bugs.gnu.org/34717
>
> * gnu/packages/bootloaders (u-boot): Remove openssl from native-inputs.
>   (u-boot-tools): Disable FIT_SIGNATURES in tests.

Applied, thanks!

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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On 2019-03-08, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>> I'm not sure where it would be appropriate to add more comments
>> regarding the GPL/Openssl incompatibilities; e.g. if someone were to
>> propose adding one of the u-boot targets that requires it, they might
>> just go ahead and re-add the openssl input...
>
> There=E2=80=99s always a risk.  I guess we=E2=80=99ll have to be careful =
when doing
> reviews.

Sure. I was thinking maybe putting a comment in the native-inputs where
"openssl" was removed, but wasn't sure what the conventions might be.


> In addition, we can add a =E2=80=98lint=E2=80=99 checker for this case, W=
DYT?

Does the lint checker have a way to identify a confidence level,
e.g. *maybe* it has this issue vs. *certainly*? Is there a way to
override the lint checker issues for known false positives? Otherwise,
it might just be annoying noise for packagers where it isn't
appropriate.


live well,
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Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:

> On 2019-03-08, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>> I'm not sure where it would be appropriate to add more comments
>>> regarding the GPL/Openssl incompatibilities; e.g. if someone were to
>>> propose adding one of the u-boot targets that requires it, they might
>>> just go ahead and re-add the openssl input...
>>
>> There=E2=80=99s always a risk.  I guess we=E2=80=99ll have to be careful=
 when doing
>> reviews.
>
> Sure. I was thinking maybe putting a comment in the native-inputs where
> "openssl" was removed, but wasn't sure what the conventions might be.

Yeah that would have worked I guess.

>> In addition, we can add a =E2=80=98lint=E2=80=99 checker for this case, =
WDYT?
>
> Does the lint checker have a way to identify a confidence level,
> e.g. *maybe* it has this issue vs. *certainly*? Is there a way to
> override the lint checker issues for known false positives? Otherwise,
> it might just be annoying noise for packagers where it isn't
> appropriate.

No it doesn=E2=80=99t have that notion of a confidence level.

The warning could be triggered only when a package is GPL=E2=80=99d and has=
 a
direct dependency on OpenSSL (we=E2=80=99d forget about indirect dependenci=
es in
this case.)  The noise would be rather limited and justified in this
case, I think.  WDYT?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

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On 2019-03-09, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>> On 2019-03-08, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>> In addition, we can add a =E2=80=98lint=E2=80=99 checker for this case,=
 WDYT?
>>
>> Does the lint checker have a way to identify a confidence level,
>> e.g. *maybe* it has this issue vs. *certainly*? Is there a way to
>> override the lint checker issues for known false positives? Otherwise,
>> it might just be annoying noise for packagers where it isn't
>> appropriate.
>
> No it doesn=E2=80=99t have that notion of a confidence level.

And I presume no overrides either, given no comment about that?


> The warning could be triggered only when a package is GPL=E2=80=99d and h=
as a
> direct dependency on OpenSSL (we=E2=80=99d forget about indirect dependen=
cies in
> this case.)  The noise would be rather limited and justified in this
> case, I think.  WDYT?

The openssl package currently ships the "openssl" binary, as well as the
libraries. I suspect there are at least three potential cases where a
package might depend on it:

* Calls the "openssl" binary as part of test suite or run-time. No
licensing compatibility issue, no worries!

* Using include files from the openssl headers; I guess you could search
for "include .* openssl/*.h" in the source code. Might get some false
positives. Can be run without actually even building it.

* Linking against the library which should actually be easy to detect
with ldd or other tools. Would need to build and then run the checks to
be sure.


live well,
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Hi,

Hopefully the OpenSSL re-licensing [0] will help with this problem in the 
long-term. At least for code that can be distributed under GPLv3, which 
may include u-boot [1].

Best,
Jack

[0] https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2018/03/01/last-license/
[1] https://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/Licensing

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Hi,

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:

> On 2019-03-09, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>> On 2019-03-08, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:
>>>> Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>>> In addition, we can add a =E2=80=98lint=E2=80=99 checker for this case=
, WDYT?
>>>
>>> Does the lint checker have a way to identify a confidence level,
>>> e.g. *maybe* it has this issue vs. *certainly*? Is there a way to
>>> override the lint checker issues for known false positives? Otherwise,
>>> it might just be annoying noise for packagers where it isn't
>>> appropriate.
>>
>> No it doesn=E2=80=99t have that notion of a confidence level.
>
> And I presume no overrides either, given no comment about that?

We could arrange for this lint =E2=80=9Cchecker=E2=80=9D to honor some per-=
package
property that would silence it.  We do that with the =E2=80=98cve=E2=80=99 =
checker and
the =E2=80=98lint-hidden-cve=E2=80=99 property.

>> The warning could be triggered only when a package is GPL=E2=80=99d and =
has a
>> direct dependency on OpenSSL (we=E2=80=99d forget about indirect depende=
ncies in
>> this case.)  The noise would be rather limited and justified in this
>> case, I think.  WDYT?
>
> The openssl package currently ships the "openssl" binary, as well as the
> libraries. I suspect there are at least three potential cases where a
> package might depend on it:
>
> * Calls the "openssl" binary as part of test suite or run-time. No
> licensing compatibility issue, no worries!
>
> * Using include files from the openssl headers; I guess you could search
> for "include .* openssl/*.h" in the source code. Might get some false
> positives. Can be run without actually even building it.
>
> * Linking against the library which should actually be easy to detect
> with ldd or other tools. Would need to build and then run the checks to
> be sure.

So for the 1st case we=E2=80=99d definitely need that property to tell =E2=
=80=98lint=E2=80=99
that everything is known-good.

=E2=80=98guix lint=E2=80=99 does very inexpensive tests, so unpacking the t=
arball and
grepping it would be beyond its scope.  However, if we can provide the
warning and people have a way to silence it, I guess we=E2=80=99re fine?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi there! :D

Em 07/03/2019 01:17, Vagrant Cascadian escreveu:
> How many of them are also license:gpl* though? That would hopefully

My Guix pull is from commit d22d246a256814784dfb03437949bdc2efd746a5.

I made a little recsel trick to get all packages licensed under [A]GPL
(any version) and which are dependent on any package licensed under
OpenSSL. However, this doesn't check if the [A]GPL'd packages use the
OpenSSL'd dependencies' library or the object code/executable. That
said, there might be plenty of false entries here.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
$ guix package -s '' | recsel -CR "name,version" -e 'license ~
"([[:space:]]|^)[A]?GPL" && dependencies ~ "([[:space:]]|^)('$(guix
package -s '' | recsel -CR 'name,version' -e 'license ~ "OpenSSL"' | tr
'\n' '|' | sed 's/[[:space:]]/@/g; s/\(\.\)/\\\1/g;
s/|\($\)/\1/g')')([[:space:]]|$)"' | sed 's/ /@/g' | tr '\n' ' '
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perl-crypt-openssl-rsa@HIDDEN perl-crypt-openssl-random@HIDDEN libcmis@HIDDEN
git@HIDDEN hydra@HIDDEN perl-crypt-openssl-bignum@HIDDEN
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isync@HIDDEN testdisk@HIDDEN r-git2r@HIDDEN khtml@HIDDEN tinc@HIDDEN
4store@HIDDEN u-boot-a20-olinuxino-micro@HIDDEN
u-boot-a20-olinuxino-lime2@HIDDEN efitools@HIDDEN
u-boot-a20-olinuxino-lime@HIDDEN u-boot-bananapi-m2-ultra@HIDDEN
u-boot-am335x-boneblack@HIDDEN u-boot-vexpress-ca9x4@HIDDEN
profanity@HIDDEN virt-viewer@HIDDEN irssi@HIDDEN wesnoth-server@HIDDEN
u-boot-puma-rk3399@HIDDEN u-boot-pine64-plus@HIDDEN mariadb@HIDDEN
u-boot-cubietruck@HIDDEN u-boot-cubieboard@HIDDEN
u-boot-wandboard@HIDDEN u-boot-mx6cuboxi@HIDDEN
u-boot-pinebook@HIDDEN u-boot-malta@HIDDEN xen@HIDDEN faust@HIDDEN
mutt@HIDDEN sbsigntools@HIDDEN
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