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[except perhaps for its sigusr1/sigusr2 stuff? i have no evidence of that and brain cannot put together code that i know will be useful. and possibly except for some very long timeout that could hypothetically get type-break to fix itself after your deadline.] On 8/17/22, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > >> sequence: >> >> - i ran a command in shell mode >> - that command issued a password prompt >> - that prompt was recognized by comint-password-prompt-regexp >> - it appeared in minibuffer >> >> i surmise that type-break did something around that time due to its >> keystroke or time count, causing bug. to continue: >> >> - i flailed around not wanting to lose data or state >> - keypresses not recognized >> - this is the usual bug state >> - message buffer shows all this for you > > Ah, thanks -- so you were entering a password, and the type-break.el > stuff triggered, and that made Emacs hang? `C-g' or anything didn't > work? > > > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
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i am limited in computer use so i hope this helps.
sequence:
- i ran a command in shell mode
- that command issued a password prompt
- that prompt was recognized by comint-password-prompt-regexp
- it appeared in minibuffer
i surmise that type-break did something around that time due to its
keystroke or time count, causing bug. to continue:
- i flailed around not wanting to lose data or state
- keypresses not recognized
- this is the usual bug state
- message buffer shows all this for you
then, fortune intervened. type-break prompted for whatever reason. i
interacted with the type-break prompt.
note that i was ABLE to interact with it. it had magical bug-evading
powers. nothing else in emacs that i know of does.
e.g. it was not in a state where self-insert-command was undefined
when i interacted with it.
i indicated to type-break to not continue the break. it complied.
then emacs operated normally. that is the best i can do to try to rephrase.
idk if type-break tried to issue a first prompt. but my guess is that
the temporally nearby combination of password entry state and an
action that type-break took [e.g. issuing a prompt or perhaps trying
to do so] caused the bug.
[never mind the stuff about type-break warnings. i was trying to
speculate why there would be no indication of what type-break did in
the messags buffer but that speculation doesn't really make sense so
you can ignore it.]
On 8/14/22, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> [20:37] Take a break from typing now? (y or n) y
>> Press any key to resume from typing break.
>> [20:38] You really ought to rest 14 minutes more. Continue break? (y or
>> n) n
>>
>> it seems possible type-break activated at prompt, although i don't
>> remember what it could have done as i don't have it issue warnings.
>> it then fixed the bug by prompting me. i likely said y, then n n.
>>
>> it seems possible that it would also fix if you did nothing until
>> type-break prompted. thanks all.
>
> Sorry; I don't understand what you mean here. Can you rephrase?
>
>
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Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2022 06:52:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 15 02:52:45 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oNTxt-0002sT-BC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 02:52:45 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oNTxr-0002sG-VF for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 02:52:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lMUFFCPXX4T3oljpYZNpxiZXVhl97huVzMoxbMcqphY=; b=fhE8+d/hI5llNDalQaEG0YeEGp idQQwcv4AiYi1RqkEJ2T7I8kWhV+mx5MFiw5SnNd0oEkFuBQ/yNSRBHF/HRpQaPLG8oijl0gKSD6Y NNMm8TEb3mWFQAxF55JOtuI+l/ZvFNZHHJqKWqxustEO+vFC4ePL+gN/rspGIdhcPpBs=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oNTxj-0004gi-OZ; Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:52:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: new data In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8t7WHSmYa+sVT+XQ4bdOP9aPwGmVBr2rnTWs_Byd2+9QA@HIDDEN> (Samuel Wales's message of "Sat, 13 Aug 2022 21:03:07 -0700") References: <CAJcAo8tXfsq8+X_FLcOYOx+mT0KLAeQ+7=qDb1noCW4jwxMxig@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8t7WHSmYa+sVT+XQ4bdOP9aPwGmVBr2rnTWs_Byd2+9QA@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: Aksak Maboul's _Un Peu De L'Ame Des Bandits_: "A Modern Lesson" Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:52:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87fshyc824.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > [20:37] Take a break from typing now? (y or n) y > Press any key to resume from typing break. > [20:38] You really ought to rest 14 minutes more. Continue break? (y or n) n > > it seems possible typ [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > [20:37] Take a break from typing now? (y or n) y > Press any key to resume from typing break. > [20:38] You really ought to rest 14 minutes more. Continue break? (y or n) n > > it seems possible type-break activated at prompt, although i don't > remember what it could have done as i don't have it issue warnings. > it then fixed the bug by prompting me. i likely said y, then n n. > > it seems possible that it would also fix if you did nothing until > type-break prompted. thanks all. Sorry; I don't understand what you mean here. Can you rephrase?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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(y or n) y Press any key to resume from typing break. [20:38] You really ought to rest 14 minutes more. Continue break? (y or n) n it seems possible type-break activated at prompt, although i don't remember what it could have done as i don't have it issue warnings. it then fixed the bug by prompting me. i likely said y, then n n. it seems possible that it would also fix if you did nothing until type-break prompted. thanks all. p.s. incidentally, although i did not open a new bug yet, there is a bug in type-break in which it prompts via minibuffer if it /started/ when you were using minibuffer, otherwise dialog box. it should be the time of asking, not starting. -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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Content preview: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > have not seen it since last time. it is pretty rare. > > if you are in the middle of some critical irc conversation, have a lot > of unsaved buffers, etc. it can feel like you've been denied the > s [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > have not seen it since last time. it is pretty rare. > > if you are in the middle of some critical irc conversation, have a lot > of unsaved buffers, etc. it can feel like you've been denied the > source and life of all computing -- emacs. > > if it needs closing, then whatever is appropriate. OK, it doesn't sound likely that we'll make further progress in this bug report, so I'm closing it. If you come up with a recipe for reproducing the bug, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2020 22:40:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 26 18:40:06 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41892 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kXB9q-0000Lf-1x for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:40:06 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f48.google.com ([209.85.216.48]:52832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <samologist@HIDDEN>) id 1kXB9o-0000L4-Jc for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:40:05 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f48.google.com with SMTP id o1so3995970pjt.2 for <38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:40:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=M9T9BgZmbarLT+n28fUzgR+R2wvxJswbRLIURw6yGtY=; b=RqEY9R4sl2jglF+2TUxzv/dQAbKG/A3+7dHSShrN4SIn8y7oheB3El2Y1ikltFJKwh koSnWE+eTXpbqN4dMJyCDSDU23R1xYhV4U42jbAEjWkDV2NAPNYcDny45Jf5tkZBPbVt yfOM8+8KLBGvi35SadIsLCKxqCUEiNUaKIDdqo1vNjroP8/yqCbsRw7xtJQMswqCyPqE k5ew3OJGAUgrykbamZeLJxcsCDRMU5NA4ekQ+ylBJ1KcBQbft9A6vf3CRyawqK03umk3 2hyJbJaRoV4i1lTiu6PDKFifr8GFOrCu7uu2UjNcBxvAw4xccoQDTvHpySPfhWUImtHe M/6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=M9T9BgZmbarLT+n28fUzgR+R2wvxJswbRLIURw6yGtY=; b=ff+t2mXPKNKn/ImHvCORivV6vzBspELS/LbziHgFWWaH8iQKLPSNWX6opTwQ3ON3ee AGRFlbsfLN2riIUCKEEBvd4aNbR6x/iZBlmYyfr47kv1DRPsHrwDx03SHPqGxxVSbKAa iMjfUDZtSKEjKYB27KmlAAz57ZrLQfxpPwGNGxNNlWUCynRL2PttRzORSBiY/qF3Qoyz cPfAaaxh+Y2UXol5UxlAmOxvnPKPt1QpE92AoUj5hxC9b8TOLyXguyUbO5ug7fDUcxgm NR89arPEgTGT+yFyPzGdSmJ3FXCoZUJY+YHqs97ToNaif40Y8aIZob31ygz6dU07iOaX KrNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/36iXsDI9hIiLjwtKzAV52p+G/30hw8VcLoKW9iBnjYUhIWb0 GhsbMQmDiAZHFMYsVR/3jhEHg7i84pyP5gSVNE8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwOe3XCz5KDs6oVvHzqei9Hk0JCJpl/rCFDWJ+WIvyD2rk9xgKu274mE5vqkT//+AS3SwFZZjlUuz3eKPEh6cg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:300a:: with SMTP id hg10mr23084670pjb.72.1603751998651; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:c64b:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871rithm9s.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8sxGzZaoeM2+mS=NGmAJ0hCt3QEc-ANzHxk3CWg5ZZJ_w@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uzL5GEOPKnQ+U3LNK4M1w_6vr1DTTTYcRfqRFBHN9AOw@HIDDEN> <83woabjig5.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uf1gHgL04KVxPUg3+N5W8OciNx_HGvyoXi0=L2APFD9Q@HIDDEN> <871rithm9s.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:39:58 -0700 Message-ID: <CAJcAo8sjD2zMnXF7Vm90P2F67dmMoVoGW6dZyFJC3XYBBL5_ew@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) have not seen it since last time. it is pretty rare. if you are in the middle of some critical irc conversation, have a lot of unsaved buffers, etc. it can feel like you've been denied the source and life of all computing -- emacs. if it needs closing, then whatever is appropriate. for health reason i am limited in computer use. On 9/22/20, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> wrote: > Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > >> it is quite rare, but has been around for many emacs versions. >> >> i could test my intuition that it might be related to type-break by >> setting type-break to trigger frequently, then running passwd in the >> shell, but i don't have it in me atm. > > This was some months ago. Have you seen this problem again? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > -- The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2020 15:51:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 26 11:51:32 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kX4mR-0008VX-RY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:51:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kX4mP-0008VL-NU for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:51:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FS+zclo5Yq3+gXuXad7a7YzPzJ4YYMhLLm8EBbK8cFw=; b=jN/H/DpVKEWrOtweej1yKJKTKs tPXHHM7VcYp3pV7ItUdelQIRdkECG+FsumLMIiFgCnzc2EASD0EQbkAJFPOfKVGcPqgKmiw0jk5/Y sShHMXSEDAUIGy1NxMRZSb0jyEaejO+f7UIqTdrc5UpgLnhJlAUQWDNwL/gdEldGIX/Y=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kX4mH-0002Ws-84; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:51:23 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8sxGzZaoeM2+mS=NGmAJ0hCt3QEc-ANzHxk3CWg5ZZJ_w@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uzL5GEOPKnQ+U3LNK4M1w_6vr1DTTTYcRfqRFBHN9AOw@HIDDEN> <83woabjig5.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uf1gHgL04KVxPUg3+N5W8OciNx_HGvyoXi0=L2APFD9Q@HIDDEN> <871rithm9s.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: White Hole's _Pink Album_: "Truth And Abstract Blues" Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:51:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rithm9s.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:19:27 +0200") Message-ID: <875z6xyohz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > >> it is quite rare, but has been around for many emacs versions. >> >> i could test my intuition that it might be related to type-break by >> setting t [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > >> it is quite rare, but has been around for many emacs versions. >> >> i could test my intuition that it might be related to type-break by >> setting type-break to trigger frequently, then running passwd in the >> shell, but i don't have it in me atm. > > This was some months ago. Have you seen this problem again? More information was requested one month ago, but was not given, so I'm closing this bug report. If further progress can be made here, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 15:37:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 01 10:37:57 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37392 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1img4K-0000cW-SO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49682) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1img4J-0000cE-5E for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:55 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1img4D-0002hk-Qj; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:49 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1649 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1img4D-0003Z0-AD; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 10:37:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:38:02 +0200 Message-Id: <83woabjig5.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <CAJcAo8uzL5GEOPKnQ+U3LNK4M1w_6vr1DTTTYcRfqRFBHN9AOw@HIDDEN> (message from Samuel Wales on Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:39:37 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8sxGzZaoeM2+mS=NGmAJ0hCt3QEc-ANzHxk3CWg5ZZJ_w@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uzL5GEOPKnQ+U3LNK4M1w_6vr1DTTTYcRfqRFBHN9AOw@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:39:37 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > i will try to post a screenshot next time. it could be quite a long time. That's OK. If this problem happens to others, they might come up with data sooner; if not, it means the problem is rare enough for it not to be urgent. Btw, if you can afford that, I'd suggest to upgrade to a newer version of Emacs, because perhaps this problem was already solved. The current version is 26.3, and 27.1 will start its pretest soon. > any suggestions of what to put in for a sigusr1 or sigusr2 would be > interesting. I'd suggest to use debug-on-event. You can read about it in the ELisp manual, node "Error Debugging".
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Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 05:56:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 01 00:56:37 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35488 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imWzk-0001if-TT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:56:37 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:44457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1imWzi-0001iS-Gm for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:56:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1577858187; bh=uw6CnoRyTQtNS0vLm3yQJzH1xJlslx0QAZDEHIaxWJo=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ru4nJbgiFMs95dFHYx7BeeZTbrSu7R25+b4+Q5+X44q6u7UNZTiDuDT61qFVxGib2 j5e4CesA7sggkSoh7+O9Adkd1HIzDIkjiMW5xdeoBry+TGubfwrE60WoAc+5SegXSJ R6vk1I8s6eUwz1uvs04L2A6TVZBHJqWHmSr3kXjQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.99.160.184]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lc8aj-1jTnqA0YCr-00jcBj; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 06:56:27 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8sxGzZaoeM2+mS=NGmAJ0hCt3QEc-ANzHxk3CWg5ZZJ_w@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8uzL5GEOPKnQ+U3LNK4M1w_6vr1DTTTYcRfqRFBHN9AOw@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8v+bmab__44P2eg32tEondKj+++0FWsnGdo7-DGakJ4fQ@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 06:56:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8v+bmab__44P2eg32tEondKj+++0FWsnGdo7-DGakJ4fQ@HIDDEN> (Samuel Wales's message of "Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:43:11 -0700") Message-ID: <87sgkzd8j7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:k22i9aU6Eqn0o9lcinJ/J1N+yfBvbceggZe8f9392pYIszz5bro bgLgd0//yOebCF4JpWTEXleO2EqybX2BYSkB8T1zQaXIEdLyrNsTb/t8n4U9X5oF5AMqjdC Q+g6rifitJHuzF6HFSC1Isr2rX81N+AF6yz+8hYc7IVcmfKy5CUZhuKDz5U9Smqiq7/mc9M iYAoaAFPsdi+vcD9Vyp9Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:xU/mL/dLFKY=:qWzAOImT6dh3ikVn1tMoBR C9Jg38mj26htCr/Mv9PIm4B3lrKD9o6is/Jh+hkZD5nqgdkXqz/jDkFiaQLx4uGNxWjI5JqDx ULCOXcpq6UCMLkDejwMjQPCXjggPcW/yNtM50/QsnAPYCPIuYT089Xrop3BXk1eAjpCJHDmJv b0euUPFF2ANRGDFatOchYoC9TxBft0hXugvD/B+KOvMD2gJgjP3DQgZcgWKHbxO6DGWdeUdUq opEfEw7i8ylXo+6dTWnJ6mmz0EMqSFuLw5+DgnfJoyjWSyvyGvvw6sMD2aNuUsUWFmcidzTsm iIaWGJBtwQ9oN7IvI4pBc9Lxr6Vo4if8Ry1LaqsdiZgPsCsqQ+/AMOi9vZGjMZdlsPIQ/hmDq xgCXBS/DGghPix4o4EjxxF+fn1xa9bprstJKx4CuZR7HkdLl/gE8nnA7ExXdYmSkCh+h/eK+9 edYZI7oNfqdE42bWwfsGyuNupjjyeduCPDDfO+fzRRICpN18Q3B8PxCki07pVucNNAsb099qz NeXb6y8/VBUhMCqEQyBaZa+6SgC8LE2iwqmheD4EtLqLkIckijmp5gB2BFobkTWgYU1wdTxLV e0yTDivN58/o+8TpkzZ1V9Fs1hmJfu4nX0sA7PwsklI68m4XIMKXQ7sVy5imSwwKcAOrk0Cs3 K3cAFevaxX8NBKnVq05C6o+QIAx+aQjOQFOKwbhz+/XaEYEDNyRWHRJ3TJwasTJnhsk2az2Ng bUJEIFvQ/Sh7Hv/fPo2FMiM77mwf9RvD4MomJBb/KqdyLQgAfOQGcgkdiGLSIQecDdfVbndnO Cb3U3AJNQsJsI0bnJOBsRkx9Ty8afr97Md0FwxJvi8gyUbgu0TztodLFoe8VffxsTLuXtH7FT toU+mA9Dks508jtPFRSp7PpFqJl6G9X0nWcH1Ii0r8KDzqgx7hZWPZ//9Wy0Zh27yqwlX6br2 u+DC0d4rkgbozfo9zTdV6VsyeZkiTWROGwOvXS1vS1nNe/VxMR2t1YcCRH9x0AOtVg5vIuIRU 786/FQxX4uhbduMvcqwqCXagTwOfM6baB8W39jZnGtAl30y0PrSjQ+pH93PDiXMUpbKOSDok9 SaQjXcMF26fOaSg9PpTBB7Ch1Y0nnYSgkuP4y13jqfQSmmdTj8BQ6RDwj9Aswu4LlYG/AZ73P IaRJqoUC8kqbN0za10cEiC2VNiEdgdtejuyJF+oyS+IJKKWIxBX+s5Nir6lBNNTt7EQO3xH8u D5ALwm0kyRj7qrwElsl3C66OdT0/GJa0ZNPqAdZf/cCMOgZ0dOM5jZsbWP9I= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> writes: > i think i misunderstood "can be of more help" to mean "is not helping" > instead of "can be of more help than me". i get it now :). Indeed - and I'm very sorry for the unintentional insult :-( I guess I really have to improve my English until something really bad happens one day... Michael.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 05:30:05 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 01 00:30:05 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35470 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imWa5-000109-3G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:30:05 -0500 Received: from mail-lf1-f47.google.com ([209.85.167.47]:41541) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <samologist@HIDDEN>) id 1imWa4-0000zA-1Z for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 00:30:04 -0500 Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id m30so27984555lfp.8 for <38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:30:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5SQwjK3oY3NQADMLi9n0dLAnuTFK6WshSc4Q/88z5vI=; b=dFcDwfwiw91TPsyeQYXDELUA69FRbzxHQqfHddLBZvPkEPYfpt8Pjj/ajkKx/UaQYs 6HwVSEGfuJRMSruHBOkMv5fF/LQWGpVsf3a2uHYsR0OKEtN65kSbGSpebFFE/Htqj6oa Lbbs+LNij9P/2UYwYbij0wmfI7M97eTMFtUiJ46E0XPpepRAFh+jtqh4whscOqNDLLv8 7LElTi8/vy0TWebwjNch6vpTBPyKsA8Uc6ctavgVpIJPnpjwhHf/2pbG7BlYjWjAGvhN xGSetVaxNr7PtSsKfFw9YZstbapBzwGTgxWqtTuR7lNEYa295n9lET2GPVwrpq1Rm5jf qknQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5SQwjK3oY3NQADMLi9n0dLAnuTFK6WshSc4Q/88z5vI=; b=oqxet2F1otXCos7VJfN/aWCo+HCsCMtuskTzBeG4ANCHKJNa2w97zFjHw8mOecl69e mrHYC5altxKJ/O0e94jUY5OBG+y7PooLrAvbAIqkZ3D+tSrSF987gX0HxCW070MUHW77 u3pP/nKi1qG8iNsEkY6EV0JH/rldneJQa1zRZYhcYMayeLdE3NChwbVJKjBj4cIoH6BI sFRpleZsOwwDzqnhXa82qbUt2y1gwYLBFjHtq/CjTmuzHUmBsowuzlY6FXR+Oi24XX6r 1mxeted2N/WKBVTEabg9mma0Rn86Sv6q3E11AnDQs1AHvlPbQsZzzaNia6WI7/ggyAuu WpsA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVar5yZKUi65P0uC1Cc3GvZjtSreW1F0RjBhaqXFZlNXC3QTvXh KLXlT15BX01Rt24TlpmBh09GXHm3w1d3TyOMcoA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxcZN4MLI4ayoU0k0ptJuS4gV8/eFCkE887nx18sglsC/8BBF1vbMDu2nElpD4BPYzzOsEAiXZikp/cXNnjQnQ= X-Received: by 2002:a19:f519:: with SMTP id j25mr43886468lfb.41.1577856597857; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:29:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:ed0f:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:29:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:29:57 -0700 Message-ID: <CAJcAo8sxGzZaoeM2+mS=NGmAJ0hCt3QEc-ANzHxk3CWg5ZZJ_w@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) i'd be delighted to be of more help. however, besides posting a screenshot next time it occurs [which is infrequent enough that it could be /quite/ a long time], what would you suggest i do to be of more help? i have no idea why you said that. i thought it could be useful to somebody to post the bug report, in case it jogs somebody's memory of code interaction, although there wasn't much to it. i don't want to regret doing so.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 03:38:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 31 22:38:49 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imUqP-0006GF-7S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:38:49 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:57749) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1imUqO-0006G0-6P for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:38:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1577849921; bh=VA2YlD87K/4cLs9xgGnjymVfXeWZB7ZLyqz/QJ9lg2g=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=i1Lsd3tE7f6F82yjrf1Ae5yCKu9taRvJtVHGmCCwNzd/bnzRUeUS3rjX4BINgflbr VpO080iiUDUF4x1A0VNaIIBVv0r983vzkH/Sgx+3MB0VIYpLbceIAomMkW4lAiVy8C gDQT7/tu3lYU7lBjDMd205nBRCZz55304IvV+Nm4= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.99.160.184]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQelV-1j9yii0aOD-00U2NW; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 04:38:41 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 04:38:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 01 Jan 2020 05:33:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87sgkzq20t.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bsUj/sw4W6x+fJPGS/jNqT4pV3fvho4SeAt0xvCUk1qN2kJi8JE h7tmdbaJtzhczoEPpczW3IK5/mavT47ERiz035A8tRI4IlUjlKuvTlPKmMneowmAYmYA5HU uY7qn+MpzIKUbwe/5W03YsXZLoTXo4IyXPF4ZBX8s/UFmtqAr0NA5Nqn7U/09U1U7QLYoqN 0v1GGItq+HxMPrid8Vz0Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:529CB+O/n3I=:J9a0ORVhdD0Xo1tuKbys2i HG/kkldlEnjE/6NoR4/am/Y2bvxHtzhRgb/CzvwCi+vFcC3Oj7JxSMBn7H5rJcx3rewvMvfV1 hZYxUH95Yba9pn0JUTeMjNO7LC4vzWprVOt2x4/JfQDtoBWKmu38n4PD28kHEw2WZNu2tCJYg YTAmeCauTc2AXZ6nW23Qx/f12sU3ayUEcUP8JdvrfdyK2ztIOFa2WiG2BfrdyaSeVHNfpXAKC BV5B1p9alj58Ta8JHXlZzGL8503yH3GVyYY+9k+YlFmMo0pf7GTanKLVJyA4oSIb0x7im+WHd GyXSo7VSiLc4deTxhaUAMt+L6sD+vEyRskFsCQju3dm8ZzF9RVhL4JfBAvUnNLWpD8t3mIRdm WnDD7S+bTY+2WBbSeUbb7u8+4tvHc+4qKbyj/YpMXPP/j8yZvHDPzMRoEq/Teh+XJIP958/eb zd44I69QFN8RPYESd0HyqzRbdzchqmRrRxAUlJYpkkiA/w2UUE7JWpu025b6ifS1/7fAlwhbx 0SKlc6XDU9w5/zvEoSeDmW+4ERq4zQlI4jRoTgjKX5WMO48SItr4zF5FMxmmMX0hkHmt5abhI gkJfT440rJvYwML/nb34ZYvr/gpKw6h+4h3GUwbH/d0aZkkd2ohWg803clj7rNY5VJI9hEvRq NzIk47yonfinZyA+kblNtivWZ1t6nPiG9U0oKI6tY2iG71g0wkrG8bmAClL3QDwgurdEacuMB MvcQkHJLo2vX5Pd1B7oTL5yAiriFfuDuf2P/z7QGUDEkLCZns+HBCOtBAJyBZI7Wz2nGW7K5r Ke7P2LCDAAbQhL6DhfHePNTfHt2bhJbKF2Fx9zpEbFomYvJ6fqM/BUiRjCrg6eMx8OuJFgfWZ 0snkz+ETCwTkgc8GXc/68JAWGlQkNhyqV7X6G2X8HVpaYDieDb8MPK4wxGEuqI/3wsZtQt0gq i1sKDjNO56sYigzz74gY01MLN7e1eK+AlSka0eF/chI0/99vniph8V8vAFI6BF0fR5Oa3MNie ZmasKU+ZwbR6cQjJy6E4B0JZwB7TvLpislcOTqlpgMK82QJeFM6qH5tj8pQVI5gd+3t59Kfy+ ALLYROYARuWgDm7D5LpC/ZlflPUsBeR94dr6OZIE8WVRj/XAxs4PMgmaSlWXPrc5wg9/kRzR8 aB71k+l3SwGzQHuPSKdYqmkC+l4J99vCj4bZAV3VbdMxINw8CICMJdqTqbJcMaDCH3QfJMYDk +nJIEbokLXW4oYf7jxcyCxKqJA2qjKL13acH/iYIGM68/bMMZ3bUH39e7Wno= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: samologist@HIDDEN, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > You are saying that sometimes y-or-n-p doesn't react to C-g? No, when that happens, the y-or-n-p prompt is gone. Everything looks like normal top level, but all keys are "undefined" (maybe all except "y" and "n"?). I can't be more specific, haven't seen the problem for a long time now. AFAIR that happened when I somehow stepped out of the prompt, e.g. by forcing Emacs into debugger, or using Edebug. I don't recall exactly, and maybe it is unrelated, but there are similarities to what the OP described. Too bad I currently can't reproduce the issue I mean. I think the OP can be of more help. Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 03:33:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 31 22:33:14 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35419 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imUl0-00066E-88 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:33:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUky-00065z-Bd for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:33:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUks-0007Jj-VT; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:33:07 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1579 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUkr-0000vm-Sq; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:33:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 05:33:18 +0200 Message-Id: <834kxflukh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:31:01 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: samologist@HIDDEN, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> > Cc: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:31:01 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Can you show a screenshot of how your Emacs session looks when this > > happens? > > Dunno if it's related, but I sometimes saw something similar when I had > been kicked out of an y-or-n-p prompt somehow, AFAIR. But I'm currently > not able to provoke something like this. You are saying that sometimes y-or-n-p doesn't react to C-g?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 03:32:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 31 22:32:34 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imUkM-00064h-0B for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:32:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50921) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUkK-00064T-68 for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:32:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUkE-000509-OC; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:32:26 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1538 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1imUkE-0000td-79; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:32:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 05:32:38 +0200 Message-Id: <835zhvlull.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <CAJcAo8sNP2Y5wQk-OuHY1siHOzV86yzjaAXmwE_Vr=EWjhShAw@HIDDEN> (message from Samuel Wales on Tue, 31 Dec 2019 15:39:36 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAJcAo8sNP2Y5wQk-OuHY1siHOzV86yzjaAXmwE_Vr=EWjhShAw@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 15:39:36 -0700 > Cc: 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > On 12/30/19, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > Can you show a screenshot of how your Emacs session looks when this > > happens? > > it is quite infrequent. basically, last time, the screen showed the > buffer, password prompt in minibuffer, and then whenever you type any > key, it says that key is undefined. Please post a screenshot next time it happens.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2020 00:31:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 31 19:31:11 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35332 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1imRup-0001X8-8S for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:31:11 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:51869) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1imRum-0001Wt-DV for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:31:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1577838660; bh=vsmaNP1TK7g0lgAcENPPRpoFehVMb9rrue22hsXwT+U=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=aOcK5R/KmoJDCuv2b3BvhvhpIRlAp31WzrQuYt0tIRANaeRkI1OInKJvXh3VBjG2D B8xB3lUsNWQqHdHtJxJ+VAFOgfDsATqPP62v+XGIAlWF4r/Gel+ZLSC9Sghmqa2S9w s41SD29DbW4g0IMEPOnxybj8kIucbPlFeV/QvzqQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.99.160.184]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUSOp-1jBvGB2K0Z-00REru; Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:31:00 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:31:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:45:37 +0200") Message-ID: <874kxgqapm.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ExikxlhTvGQPDsYj7s/3NRjRRF7WZK+LQPTr3Y16sTgxUoH2814 5qg3V24amrysvJrDcrAlDkwLz3sbB23WFif4X6tbCB8jyooxrstnGGeTxfZsJtI0Gq78YWt 8D1krQ8k5BLgKCgTb0rT4HweZlRxusW4Kaxx22H81bz0Erk1D3aU0wamVZJXer4PGxJG7o0 /PaVGtHFF8JMTzzVGHvzw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:82pBO/aVkrc=:TA4E+jVLjGoqTd94nnxwBn r6kbwhCC9IosEOI6417Uxh8brWl7MRxviV6v1WqTa1kQH3cwvQpFvtXfIda6PPDrytaIoGe47 yD3eeWj47pwQZid3It16SIGwaDSLTQag6Y2OL0Yq2dNrJVn2u5iDfI7/iucn/89iYNK30qeH8 sxUuvfLgkJUa6yueb6MHx4ch3AQwP2+8Q8f1GnkvETT0KlHNEZ1qoQu4HhpDj45HClCzrs+Wi NWg2RmY/jeqwlYbN4ZbofTa8B3drETPGQceEmmkgg6emXQfmDIrIu3ln7U0UNkPFI3i3mEd3j fgpmnO8EjeSes74BboYc22uJmkjnIJBvZIAra/BXmRlaI8UC66lTepJ08WT47UzZfpHCGYXLv +5jHNQP3qUPxrSnUR7eN8laYspAoIUGNf0kJEkG3q5qJ694YabrbFSwCKptDwOqPEMoGjUFPj JkiVVuUS8qty66FJ0sef+F9wzez8/RRqJYMn3DwyUXsPjVzryFINRWPUGi3doihI8Yhf1MRGZ sTest59fgUUxMxKHCH5/PTAGkeOYvPy0qc8vn7bdDAwX1/ZDeY2BNs3umwg2JNpGEYN/0TtM7 SMi/1fcqcWN9S9L4d/dAIq6mzKTI4NAtx35OV1cjTojhFRaWeI/IILyBxaMn87hhuS9xOGW2V DoIkqkVL2aUtJmMoC0Zh7hls3wnFPSjpeEKbKSki6hWG1teJhKjrKWueeiqlfUSoFBk1FiHFD pRGVAjj0v+ZDH5x8Q8YZ7MZ5s7V7L5+P0F6L/T4xYu+3TSLTqIJ6WzzAxyWQ+d4JhnfLk+312 gNbozxxWfmVpLxAydoq7tEsUgfms6+ypwjcT3HgJ8swZjnKwU+GqYZelAmdlOKweo3AoxRXfV CIxpxmNqSNRHC+h+89VYadUN/wy5RVofeGq9dtBqcYDRslviOBpoDa5OuTt4SxNFBNGqsXZbX buV1VrSGLHzcoDUi85RensKuOp5WbecS2LINFQoQI99UGYu1x/oqmp59jOC0FEQOwpd42/joA Mbam6h+DTGjYEjOSTlyT2Ig6NPwOxO86R54TWq+TcGMVYIhaZxJeWwiqSzHvUvk+DBfWm88+Q HbQyVTAtfWCebzr6z5Sup0K6HAyGyThsu0o57QA7D4rBsOAVBWPVn1Hzr9rmdMJW7G2bBWQvE IXPPo8mcn+3YQLRZrfHVjljguKvzvgoo2xVqtbq2lW3cVZgzJwws5XqhXB0ybIeY+6wZmupPJ blJ1ZlyPEaRAf0W80V70jpp8wEAmj/xTt2A0qfxLmGM4VdTT+uFsfLZakJxk= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN>, 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Can you show a screenshot of how your Emacs session looks when this > happens? Dunno if it's related, but I sometimes saw something similar when I had been kicked out of an y-or-n-p prompt somehow, AFAIR. But I'm currently not able to provoke something like this. Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#38802; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 38802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2019 15:45:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 30 10:45:43 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33249 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ilxEl-0003TY-IM for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:45:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ilxEk-0003TL-Nn for 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:45:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ilxEf-0003zk-IC; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:45:37 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1370 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ilxEY-0007EN-Be; Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:45:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:45:37 +0200 Message-Id: <83eewln7fi.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> (message from Samuel Wales on Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:20:15 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#38802: 24.5; emacs unusable, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key References: <CAJcAo8s0BYPWhfnLHdXBQySzLbzUTm+fyeMBh_F7Bv6fJcWpJw@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 38802 Cc: 38802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Samuel Wales <samologist@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:20:15 -0700 > > I have long had a bug where everything I type says "k is undefined", > where k stands for any key including ESC and C-g. this occurs > randomly. > > It is impossible to get out of this mode, unless you can figure out > some SIGUSR1 voodoo. Except once, I think type-break activating got > me out of the mode. And once I got > out by just coming back to it after a half hour or something. Can you show a screenshot of how your Emacs session looks when this happens?
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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::244 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 24.5; emacs unusable in minibuffer, unpredictably, with "k is undefined" for every key --text follows this line-- I have long had a bug where everything I type says "k is undefined", where k stands for any key including ESC and C-g. this occurs randomly. It is impossible to get out of this mode, unless you can figure out some SIGUSR1 voodoo. Except once, I think type-break activating got me out of the mode. And once I got out by just coming back to it after a half hour or something. I suspect maybe type-break also causes the bug, if certain conditions obtain. I am not sure. But it is the only timer-based thing I can think of. I believe it occurs when I am in the minibuffer. Perhaps only at a password prompt. I don't know if this bug report is useful. Thanks. In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11) of 2017-09-12 on hullmann, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.11 (stretch)
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