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This doesn't happen if > you don't have separate "make" and "make install" steps. > > I don't know if this behavior is intentional, but in case it's not, I > thought I'd report it. > > You can trivially reproduce the situation with this script (using the > 23.0.96 archive), and note that the same thing still happens if you omit > the differing configure arguments: > > #!/bin/bash > > set -e > set -x > > tar xf emacs-23.0.96.tar.gz > > mkdir -p build/1 > mkdir -p build/2 > > (cd build/1 && ../../emacs-23.0.96/configure --with-x=yes) > (cd build/2 && ../../emacs-23.0.96/configure --with-x=no) > > (cd build/1 && make) > (cd build/2 && make) > > mkdir -p install/1 > mkdir -p install/2 > > inst_1="$(pwd)/install/1" > inst_2="$(pwd)/install/2" > > (cd build/1 && make DESTDIR="${inst_1}") > (cd build/2 && make DESTDIR="${inst_2}") > > find -name "emacs-23.*" > find -name "DOC*" I'm not able to reproduce it. This was 16 years ago, perhaps it got fixed someway? I can't tell it from the Makefile, but perhaps someone can.
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Full text available.Received: (at 3883) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Apr 2011 22:02:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 06 18:02:38 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Q7aoA-0005La-7a for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:02:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1Q7ao7-0005LM-VU for 3883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:02:36 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51509) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <rgm@HIDDEN>) id 1Q7ao2-0005B9-S0; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:02:30 -0400 From: Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> To: Rob Browning <rlb@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: Bug#3883: Interleaved builds in separate trees create different versions References: <87r5wc30h2.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spook: Cohiba infowar PGP embassy SP4 STARLAN terrorism INS X-Ran: M(+,Z8Me_QCYvvnt{0;LJZghM%E-.9B:,Ee=U)8e-VIneT7G9h^0|R*y$h4&`#J;6b+)+= X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:02:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r5wc30h2.fsf@HIDDEN> (Rob Browning's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:33 -0700") Message-ID: <t4y63n9gy1.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 3883 Cc: 3883 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) (A very delayed reply) Rob Browning wrote: > If you try to build two trees from the same source directory at the > same time, alternating the respective SRCDIR/configure, make, and make > install operations, the first tree will end up with a ".2" version while > the second tree will end up with a ".1" version. I think this happens because the second make recompiles the .el files, and the output .elc files are written into the lisp/ directory in the source-tree, not the build directory. Then the first build thinks it need to redump Emacs, because the .elc files have newer timestamps. Neither make should need to compile the .el files at all, but this is tricky, see http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=2151 . Arguably, the compiled .elc files should be written into the build tree's lisp/ directory, not the source lisp/ directory. But, they are supposed to be platform independent, so maybe the current set-up is designed to let them be shared between all builds. But, they get recompiled anyway, so that doesn't actually work...
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Jul 2009 20:02:44 +0000 From rlb@HIDDEN Sun Jul 19 13:02:43 2009 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n6JK2d24027714 for <submit@HIDDEN>; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:41 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MScal-0002db-CY for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:02:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MScaj-0002bC-Pu for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:02:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37274 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MScaj-0002ay-Mz for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:02:37 -0400 Received: from li12-156.members.linode.com ([70.85.129.156]:49243 helo=defaultvalue.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <rlb@HIDDEN>) id 1MScaj-0006Up-0Y for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:02:37 -0400 Received: from omen.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4C390DA7 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raven.defaultvalue.org (raven.defaultvalue.org [192.168.1.7]) by omen.defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C6C50300 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by raven.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDE8F7BA941; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:33 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: Interleaved builds in separate trees create different versions From: Rob Browning <rlb@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:33 -0700 Message-ID: <87r5wc30h2.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) If you try to build two trees from the same source directory at the same time, alternating the respective SRCDIR/configure, make, and make install operations, the first tree will end up with a ".2" version while the second tree will end up with a ".1" version. This doesn't happen if you don't have separate "make" and "make install" steps. I don't know if this behavior is intentional, but in case it's not, I thought I'd report it. You can trivially reproduce the situation with this script (using the 23.0.96 archive), and note that the same thing still happens if you omit the differing configure arguments: #!/bin/bash set -e set -x tar xf emacs-23.0.96.tar.gz mkdir -p build/1 mkdir -p build/2 (cd build/1 && ../../emacs-23.0.96/configure --with-x=yes) (cd build/2 && ../../emacs-23.0.96/configure --with-x=no) (cd build/1 && make) (cd build/2 && make) mkdir -p install/1 mkdir -p install/2 inst_1="$(pwd)/install/1" inst_2="$(pwd)/install/2" (cd build/1 && make DESTDIR="${inst_1}") (cd build/2 && make DESTDIR="${inst_2}") find -name "emacs-23.*" find -name "DOC*" -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4
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