Received: (at 39992) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2021 17:41:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 19 13:41:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mS0oJ-0002Xv-QU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:41:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mS0oG-0002Wy-PT for 39992 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:41:02 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mS0oB-0006pY-B6; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:40:55 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4094 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1mS0ny-0002m4-Es; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 13:40:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:40:33 +0300 Message-Id: <83y27s31m6.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkgLnMkPJogRygmcYRiFYndC97Zht6yrrf8kR+jRPQ1yg@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:23:02 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#39992: Merge external idlwave development efforts into GNU Emacs? References: <875zfe49a2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkHmb-YU-bPVBVFjxSa3M6Mf45agi72rqMWzNvKz54R5A@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmmDH6VuxmrZV=pjqFJUveX=dk_2q-gJP+jDNTQYnfSZVA@HIDDEN> <6B65AE1C-0D47-490D-BEF3-385BC6FCEE7E@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkgLnMkPJogRygmcYRiFYndC97Zht6yrrf8kR+jRPQ1yg@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39992 Cc: 39992 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@HIDDEN, jdtsmith@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:23:02 -0700 > Cc: 39992 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> > > > I’ve also discussed with several of the emacs devels over the years > > moving IDLWAVE to a package on Elpa. I think that’s a more > > appropriate home, since there are not terribly many users (as judged > > by the number of email queries I get now vs. a decade ago). > > That makes sense to me. I'm copying in Stefan Monnier, who is in charge > of GNU ELPA, in case he has anything to add. Unfortunately, we cannot move anything from core to ELPA until we have a way of producing a release tarball with ELPA packages.
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To: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39992 Cc: 39992 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> writes: > I=E2=80=99m happy for anyone to work on merging the latest IDLWAVE into E= macs, > and I can assist with this process as time allows. This might require > some moderate effort, since I believe I refactored and simplified the > code layout (in an attempt to attract a new maintainer) after my last > push into emacs core. This refactoring occurred around 20015/16. My > last commit on GitHub was actually in 2018. Thank you for your efforts in maintaining this package. I don't actually use it myself, so I only have a few observations on the maintenance aspects below. > I=E2=80=99ve also discussed with several of the emacs devels over the yea= rs > moving IDLWAVE to a package on Elpa. I think that=E2=80=99s a more > appropriate home, since there are not terribly many users (as judged > by the number of email queries I get now vs. a decade ago). That makes sense to me. I'm copying in Stefan Monnier, who is in charge of GNU ELPA, in case he has anything to add. > I still use IDLWAVE, but far more rarely than before. There is > currently a bug related to routine info scanning that I need to look > into. I=E2=80=99m happy to do this in the context of a merged core/elpa > package if someone is able to lead that effort. There were numerous > changes on the emacs side based on obsoleted functions, etc. that I > never found the time to bring over. If we could get those changes merged into your version, perhaps we could just replace the one in Emacs with yours? It would of course be excellent if you could eventually find the time to do that, and a priori it sounds like much less works than going the other way around. > And needless to say, if you know of any users of IDLWAVE who are > interested in taking over maintenance and overseeing its re-folding > back into the emacs core/elpa, I=E2=80=99d be delighted to speak with the= m. I currently don't, unfortunately. I suppose we shall have to wait and see if there is someone interested. Thanks again for getting back to us about this.
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From: JD Smith <jdtsmith@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmDH6VuxmrZV=pjqFJUveX=dk_2q-gJP+jDNTQYnfSZVA@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:41:12 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B65AE1C-0D47-490D-BEF3-385BC6FCEE7E@HIDDEN> References: <875zfe49a2.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmkHmb-YU-bPVBVFjxSa3M6Mf45agi72rqMWzNvKz54R5A@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmmDH6VuxmrZV=pjqFJUveX=dk_2q-gJP+jDNTQYnfSZVA@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39992 Cc: 39992 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I=E2=80=99m happy for anyone to work on merging the latest IDLWAVE into = Emacs, and I can assist with this process as time allows. This might = require some moderate effort, since I believe I refactored and = simplified the code layout (in an attempt to attract a new maintainer) = after my last push into emacs core. This refactoring occurred around = 20015/16. My last commit on GitHub was actually in 2018. =20 I=E2=80=99ve also discussed with several of the emacs devels over the = years moving IDLWAVE to a package on Elpa. I think that=E2=80=99s a = more appropriate home, since there are not terribly many users (as = judged by the number of email queries I get now vs. a decade ago). I still use IDLWAVE, but far more rarely than before. There is = currently a bug related to routine info scanning that I need to look = into. I=E2=80=99m happy to do this in the context of a merged core/elpa = package if someone is able to lead that effort. There were numerous = changes on the emacs side based on obsoleted functions, etc. that I = never found the time to bring over.=20 And needless to say, if you know of any users of IDLWAVE who are = interested in taking over maintenance and overseeing its re-folding back = into the emacs core/elpa, I=E2=80=99d be delighted to speak with them.=20= Best, JDS > On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> wrote: >=20 > Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 >> Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: >>=20 >>> I don't use it myself, but I noticed that there is ongoing = development >>> of idlwave.el here: >>>=20 >>> https://github.com/jdtsmith/idlwave >>>=20 >>> As far as I can tell from the git log, the last change to idlwave by >>> JD Smith was on Fri Apr 27 19:34:22 2007 +0000. >>>=20 >>> Would it be possible to merge this effort into the version = distributed >>> with GNU Emacs itself? That way more users could benefit from the >>> improvements. >>=20 >> I note that on the GitHub page, there has since been added a note: >>=20 >> Note: IDLWAVE is currently not maintained. In current form it >> supports IDL v8.6, and is still in daily use by some users. >>=20 >> If you are interested in taking over IDLWAVE maintenance, please >> post an issue. See the DEVELOP file for information on the file >> structure layout. >>=20 >> I'm not sure what this means for the idlwave we ship with Emacs. >>=20 >> JD Smith, do you mind if someone else tries to on merge your external >> development efforts into Emacs itself? >=20 > The above email bounced, so I have now copied in the email address = used > in the GitHub repository.
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