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From: Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN>

---
 gnu/packages/gettext.scm | 12 +++++++-----
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gnu/packages/gettext.scm b/gnu/packages/gettext.scm
index 202acf25d4..19920aa210 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/gettext.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/gettext.scm
@@ -30,6 +30,7 @@
   #:use-module (gnu packages)
   #:use-module (guix packages)
   #:use-module (guix download)
+  #:use-module (guix git-download)
   #:use-module (guix build-system gnu)
   #:use-module (guix build-system perl)
   #:use-module (gnu packages docbook)
@@ -46,12 +47,13 @@
     (name "gettext-minimal")
     (version "0.20.1")
     (source (origin
-              (method url-fetch)
-              (uri (string-append "mirror://gnu/gettext/gettext-"
-                                  version ".tar.gz"))
+              (method git-fetch)
+              (uri (git-reference
+                     (url "https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/gettext.git")
+                     (commit (string-append "v" version))))
               (sha256
-               (base32
-                "0p3zwkk27wm2m2ccfqm57nj7vqkmfpn7ja1nf65zmhz8qqs5chb6"))))
+                (base32
+                  "0p3zwkk27wm2m2ccfqm57nj7vqkmfpn7ja1nf65zmhz8qqs5chb6"))))
     (build-system gnu-build-system)
     (outputs '("out"
                "doc"))                            ;9 MiB of HTML
-- 
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joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN writes:

> From: Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN>

Please add commit messages following the GNU ChangeLog style to your
patches.

I'm surprised that this does not require adding Autoconf etc as
native-inputs, do you know why that is?

Also, won't this cause a circular dependency on 'git-minimal'?  If it
works for you I guess we got lucky in this case.

AIUI the lack of tarball integration in Software Heritage is temporary,
i.e. it will eventually be sorted, and of course back-dated.  So I don't
think we need to move everything to git while we wait for that.

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On Sun, May 17, 2020, 15:56 Marius Bakke <mbakke@HIDDEN> wrote:

> joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN writes:
>
> > From: Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN>
>
> Please add commit messages following the GNU ChangeLog style to your
> patches.
>

How do I do that?  This was in large part an exercise to clean up my
development and contribution practice.

I'm surprised that this does not require adding Autoconf etc as
> native-inputs, do you know why that is?
>

I think I let my environment leak, I'll check into in.

Also, won't this cause a circular dependency on 'git-minimal'?  If it
> works for you I guess we got lucky in this case.
>

I'm not sure.  I'll test more in a little bit.

AIUI the lack of tarball integration in Software Heritage is temporary,
> i.e. it will eventually be sorted, and of course back-dated.  So I don't
> think we need to move everything to git while we wait for that.
>

When I looked into it, there appears to have been no progress in a year and
a half.

>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 17, 2020, 15:56 Marius Bakke &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mbakke@HIDDEN">mbakke@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"mailto:joshua.r.marshall.1991@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">joshua.r.marshall.1991@gmail.=
com</a> writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: Josh Marshall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joshua.r.marshall.1991@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN=
</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Please add commit messages following the GNU ChangeLog style to your<br>
patches.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">How do I do that?=C2=A0 This was in large part an exercise to cle=
an up my development and contribution practice.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
I&#39;m surprised that this does not require adding Autoconf etc as<br>
native-inputs, do you know why that is?<br></blockquote></div></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I think I let my environment leak, I=
&#39;ll check into in.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
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Also, won&#39;t this cause a circular dependency on &#39;git-minimal&#39;?=
=C2=A0 If it<br>
works for you I guess we got lucky in this case.<br></blockquote></div></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m not sure.=C2=A0 I&#=
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v dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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AIUI the lack of tarball integration in Software Heritage is temporary,<br>
i.e. it will eventually be sorted, and of course back-dated.=C2=A0 So I don=
&#39;t<br>
think we need to move everything to git while we wait for that.<br></blockq=
uote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">When I looke=
d into it, there appears to have been no progress in a year and a half.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
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Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN> writes:

> On Sun, May 17, 2020, 15:56 Marius Bakke <mbakke@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>> joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN writes:
>>
>> > From: Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN>
>>
>> Please add commit messages following the GNU ChangeLog style to your
>> patches.
>>
>
> How do I do that?  This was in large part an exercise to clean up my
> development and contribution practice.

When doing 'git commit', add a one-line "title" for your change and
mention the changed files and variables in the commit message "body".

See the git log for examples.

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On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 04:30:52PM -0400, Josh Marshall wrote:
> Subject: Moved gettext to use git to better conform to better
> bootstrapping, better integration with Software Heritage, and what looks
> like emerging best practices for package sources.

Based on the previous discussion of this topic [0], I don't think there
was a consensus about whether or not using tarballs or Git sources was
better.

[0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-05/msg00224.html

> On Sun, May 17, 2020, 15:56 Marius Bakke <mbakke@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > joshua.r.marshall.1991@HIDDEN writes:
> AIUI the lack of tarball integration in Software Heritage is temporary,
> > i.e. it will eventually be sorted, and of course back-dated.  So I don't
> > think we need to move everything to git while we wait for that.
>=20
> When I looked into it, there appears to have been no progress in a year a=
nd
> a half.

Software Heritage is a cool project, but I don't see it as a reason to
start changing our packages yet. For one thing, it hasn't demonstrated
long-term stability in the way that the GNU tarball servers have. And
the apparent lack of progress on this feature (tarball hosting) does not
make me more confident.

There's no reason to avoid SWH, but also no reason to move away from
tarballs where we are already using them. I don't think there is any
danger of losing the gettext source code the way that there is for minor
GitHub projects and scientific computing packages.

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