Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 07:46:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 15 02:46:24 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kp52O-0001Wy-Ll for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:46:24 -0500 Received: from mail.zaclys.net ([178.33.93.72]:60629) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <lle-bout@HIDDEN>) id 1kp52M-0001Wl-QQ for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:46:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (82-64-145-38.subs.proxad.net [82.64.145.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zaclys.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0BF7kFxS008770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:46:16 +0100 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.zaclys.net 0BF7kFxS008770 Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=zaclys.net Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lle-bout@HIDDEN DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zaclys.net; s=default; t=1608018376; bh=lhZZv6Ndz1wSMyviH2GfrJ4Ac8QZWG1grJhEmXQKQk4=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=pyKxsaN5gkY8q4k7tlVl7n4z69PRijeGC361BxsfZ/584/rxUPOXiSaCez5fopY64 RlOTNUAdVv3fUEVC5zljF+uDmZQx7l/UZ660MQr8IMFedXdJwla4QBF1SM9jp4T2mN KLUndOEAI+kwcGy6Otj0i7bKTkaYEJY/9UW3F/FU= Message-ID: <7237255c50a761ceda8d76c583309d3dd59039db.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible From: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:46:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87a6ugqb4h.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> <7730dab2af9de1e47cf343ff5ed506d472efe591.camel@HIDDEN> <87a6ugqb4h.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-bahPN8RfXLsFoG1+NjIJ" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> --=-bahPN8RfXLsFoG1+NjIJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the record, I attached the failed build log for current core- updates. $ ./pre-inst-env guix describe Git checkout: repository: /home/lle-bout/src/guix branch: core-updates commit: cc6cb6e80a42355147809b4830053a34d1563994 Build command: $ ./pre-inst-env guix build --target=powerpc64le-linux-gnu bootstrap- tarballs The most important bit in the build log is: configure: error: *** The compiler must support -mabi=ieeelongdouble and -mlongdouble simultaneously. 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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 07:35:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 15 02:35:04 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55332 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kp4rQ-0001E6-F0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:35:04 -0500 Received: from mail.zaclys.net ([178.33.93.72]:42495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <lle-bout@HIDDEN>) id 1kp4rO-0001DW-CF for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:35:03 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (82-64-145-38.subs.proxad.net [82.64.145.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zaclys.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0BF7YsMA006793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:34:54 +0100 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.zaclys.net 0BF7YsMA006793 Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=zaclys.net Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lle-bout@HIDDEN DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zaclys.net; s=default; t=1608017695; bh=vBPu4VM8OT3Uzz3oqsySXEWauUCfnY4cMGXpTvLgkZU=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=RQJDF460TenJi576VzHtZQTSkCDQ/ZQ5Ujc5XtDieHalOnRZHJ8fkGf6eKO+vbRMI X3hIG7v3Sm6XxuU1AAbHVJrkHfFbA2g01fXRJBeM4jTgkNa1tRNkbgMmPizprx9Mgp vPORxbxnhVyusovmcXXhhgMwXk8oc2NIKnIt7KU0= Message-ID: <54153897349cc396d89a022dbce141bfea4804db.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible From: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:34:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87a6ugqb4h.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> <7730dab2af9de1e47cf343ff5ed506d472efe591.camel@HIDDEN> <87a6ugqb4h.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 23:24 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Yes, I think we could just cross-build those bootstrap binaries from > current ‘master’ and be done with it, if it works for you. Yes that would be awesome! The master branch just needs the patch from bug <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=44778> - I guess considering it affects lots of packages it needs to be rewritten the same way Efraim has rewritten their PowerPC 32-bits patch. I'll look into that. Correct?
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 22:24:56 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 17:24:56 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kowH2-0007eO-2U for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:24:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58158) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kowH0-0007eB-9d for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:24:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kowGu-00060P-2b; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:24:48 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=43094 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kowGt-0002TT-Ir; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:24:47 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> <7730dab2af9de1e47cf343ff5ed506d472efe591.camel@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 24 Frimaire an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:24:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7730dab2af9de1e47cf343ff5ed506d472efe591.camel@HIDDEN> (Leo Le Bouter's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:44:28 +0100") Message-ID: <87a6ugqb4h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Leo, Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> skribis: > It would be great to do that at least temporarily on master. It will > not affect much since other architectures are bootstrapped already. We > could also make it conditional. Reproducibility instructions will have > to contain exact commit id and configuration for both GNU Guix System > (x86_64-linux) and GNU Guix which can cross-compile. Yes, I think we could just cross-build those bootstrap binaries from current =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 and be done with it, if it works for you. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 10:44:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:44:36 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51355 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kolLI-0007rV-Jh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:44:36 -0500 Received: from mail.zaclys.net ([178.33.93.72]:41713) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <lle-bout@HIDDEN>) id 1kolLH-0007rG-5g for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:44:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (82-64-145-38.subs.proxad.net [82.64.145.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zaclys.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0BEAiSBi019196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:44:28 +0100 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.zaclys.net 0BEAiSBi019196 Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=zaclys.net Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lle-bout@HIDDEN DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zaclys.net; s=default; t=1607942668; bh=0Y/YYfVmWlus347PuNcHd3mU5eaTfORlf8T5R4Sf9mE=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=S3Tmwn7KZI3NbApqaUi1SfFdw5hUCFrTKlpDgnzvKoJzZfHks4G06NgPFHx/S7DUC nAOk4ZZMtOPM/pfu7Z/+TFutUEDg2S54IrnIYO6/s90NTfLcp0nPmNn2pUDkkoLrlT HlKCpHZqEEGdTLvfzZiQAENlv7jWSMy1zZKDVCUM= Message-ID: <7730dab2af9de1e47cf343ff5ed506d472efe591.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible From: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:44:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 12:38 +0200, Efraim Flashner wrote: > It looks like I mispoke, I meant gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm. If > we > change glibc-for-bootstrap to inherit glibc-2.31 then the rest of the > bootstrap binaries should use that one and everything else will use > the > regular glibc. It would be great to do that at least temporarily on master. It will not affect much since other architectures are bootstrapped already. We could also make it conditional. Reproducibility instructions will have to contain exact commit id and configuration for both GNU Guix System (x86_64-linux) and GNU Guix which can cross-compile.
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 10:38:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:38:47 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kolFe-0007iO-Of for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:38:46 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:52234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1kolFd-0007iC-Al for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:38:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [5.102.238.249]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6388C403BF; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:38:36 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> To: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <X9dArDmqqsFyIAG7@E5400> References: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:34:35AM +0100, Leo Le Bouter wrote: > On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 12:27 +0200, Efraim Flashner wrote: >=20 > > but I wouldn't count on > > maintaining a separate glibc for powerpc64le vs the rest of the > > architectures. >=20 > It doesnt need to be maintained, it only needs to work in one commit on > master and then one uses time-machine to rebuild the bootstrap binaries > if they wish to. The make-bootstrap code is already unmaintained for > every architecture anyway since we never rebuild bootstrap binaries > using later GNU Guix revisions ever. It looks like I mispoke, I meant gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm. If we change glibc-for-bootstrap to inherit glibc-2.31 then the rest of the bootstrap binaries should use that one and everything else will use the regular glibc. >=20 > > Do you have a preference big-endian vs little endian? >=20 > I'd like both but little endian has the widest eco-system support > especially w.r.t. to Linux drivers. Many Linux drivers have endianness > bugs (lack of endian-safe serialization for DMA..), it's such a plague > that sticking to little endian is just better right now. One common > example being mpt3sas and amdgpu drivers required in some > configurations of the Talos II system. >=20 I remember you mentioning that. --=20 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl/XQKoACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1Gv/Q//fQK+B4hrAZgwOvlWIm6/EUVPZj7LJKTvZIaHXCYJDDZgdEA93Dh5kUvY esua7YJphlUp+PJ4/LbzdmviHcycgHZS25ZtVJfo0g6ghbdhKQPioEGshQQ9Q1jO UAmWvHGw/j+ck3M0W+uUCBlzxtV3QNW6EzXJ75e3gU5HSaZ7qCy5PK392N0ZQsh2 zDhmdJ/r7aWn6WXGVvMlKjub8JFypgHm6yqmT2evHceXXnSjNAI2HDiiVyK8U6Ia umwjGjNPSGX00+YxJl1S8Fm0YxUORGglhO1rFUH+mYze7LeJ3UBTbDMNeCs5IsQ/ /uGgy777kfJRHFUkx9JzDVyboSLd+2COoT894gAjYJBP1uOCQVwkL7Rfo+QapHlZ l16r/ze/CrgbZ2O9TqIDv5COgC5Wvc72OOC4s2sbmdGyUYpT7ltGouHmXpl6+0Ck DjotXNTACXPhgKzK2/A+Hlu4tben1XXXquctmm9/ek0ouTgKe/5A1/877nE/l1yL 94tVf5149Bf52Gyo2n0znBsjMA72HOZBCAEi8ubSj0B1MzmSrWz7FZEgVtAOKdYy b/lGQUNKYtMbcvyJJA46ShRWAPYistZ8Ud1+UejIFGLHkNz79SpsK60MbIh1D10i BrXo9SZa8xVdNy6tRjoJvp5OI1HbV1sIkCLSlLKjFOcp9IlnzDs= =RfOP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ohp5GPH0RV1wQK3u--
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 10:34:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:34:45 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kolBl-0007bB-9Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:34:45 -0500 Received: from mail.zaclys.net ([178.33.93.72]:53451) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <lle-bout@HIDDEN>) id 1kolBi-0007ax-UG for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:34:43 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.27] (82-64-145-38.subs.proxad.net [82.64.145.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.zaclys.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0BEAYZ6P016725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:34:35 +0100 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.zaclys.net 0BEAYZ6P016725 Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=zaclys.net Authentication-Results: mail.zaclys.net; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=lle-bout@HIDDEN DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zaclys.net; s=default; t=1607942076; bh=1/9nC5JiObGDFVb/mcqztEWp6hw0YyroOgHO5JGVSpE=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=f202olMxzHdnvtnGueB+KNn5FWY7IRqPcLo4tF+nzRaP5tlmQTNY7eNz96PHq5fDR r9wG2wMBwzLLi3yiWxODpjmU9LoRQb9Ao59cPkdiDpZ6e4N1NU1SAGKbnxQirwHBYE 0bA9OKBeyoXtZ8/bcyXybHmAorGZnLdjwRdb8kQY= Message-ID: <c0fcb13260c693139e121a24ee1bcc7360dfd83f.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible From: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:34:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> References: <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 12:27 +0200, Efraim Flashner wrote: > but I wouldn't count on > maintaining a separate glibc for powerpc64le vs the rest of the > architectures. It doesnt need to be maintained, it only needs to work in one commit on master and then one uses time-machine to rebuild the bootstrap binaries if they wish to. The make-bootstrap code is already unmaintained for every architecture anyway since we never rebuild bootstrap binaries using later GNU Guix revisions ever. > Do you have a preference big-endian vs little endian? I'd like both but little endian has the widest eco-system support especially w.r.t. to Linux drivers. Many Linux drivers have endianness bugs (lack of endian-safe serialization for DMA..), it's such a plague that sticking to little endian is just better right now. One common example being mpt3sas and amdgpu drivers required in some configurations of the Talos II system.
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 10:27:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 05:27:26 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kol4g-0007OU-GV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:27:26 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:52198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1kol4c-0007O4-RC for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 05:27:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [5.102.238.249]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02B00400E4; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:27:14 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> To: Leo Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <X9c+AvdN+/xH9A8x@E5400> References: <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uyqQH6igkwY9scqR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <bc239fe7c4eebfa0434be5c98520d3dc9313b367.camel@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --uyqQH6igkwY9scqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:22:43AM +0100, Leo Le Bouter wrote: > Hello Chris, Ludo and Efraim, >=20 > In my experience, the bootstrap binaries are reproducible on > powerpc64le-linux-gnu for a specific GNU Guix System and GNU Guix > version and configuration. It's not perfect that the kernel version has > to be pinned for reproducibility but it's better than nothing. >=20 > The issue with powerpc64le-linux-gnu on GNU Guix core-updates now is > that it has been upgraded to Glibc 2.32 and there is other issues due > to that. Glibc 2.31 is otherwise working well. I wish we could push > changes to build bootstrap binaries to master where there is Glibc 2.31 > (and ensure the changes don't affect other architectures) and get this > over with.=20 It is possible to create a "perfect setup" by editing the package definitions in gnu/packages/bootstrap to fix certain issues which are needed to make bootstrap binaries actually work. I suppose it would be possible to downgrade glibc in bootstrap.scm, but I wouldn't count on maintaining a separate glibc for powerpc64le vs the rest of the architectures. Do you have a preference big-endian vs little endian? --=20 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --uyqQH6igkwY9scqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl/XPf8ACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1EqZA//al6eVmCrax75nQPknTyF9/acmLq9HZ2j0WNBc20SbZbElQ40eCK1I2BV qRfnFlwm5hftKXbQho55qndPDfU9eSvba5+/Pw+SM3jjs5pxhx/mHEZ+OAHfwsFi GQfNfXZFsRzjGyKN9TgtwcI4jtZ6y9GK7vJ8hR0jn/LXaMT8WbzsX7HfOyn7OhA5 D4fxLF2I9jcsbHbuP7Ky5S2VsulOTHTLUIVHJGdtZ5/d8zRZesFWPVS2On0yACZB GFIuOovDW9ZWR6ziy+7EZl0CP4+2ALplk2UD9nUTxet1KdiIBnVTkOAly0U2mvTq bOiuKT/Ve/igMsW7KgXaEXYurR3qbU0TROdPcM87QL9Pfk5+9+wN9Huz+JvMFh0I 8yVU19RY4bCV0EcYInzlng5/pN8xKwGfD5ytHaJ9FrUf10Prs0WU1jFBkPmC2Mve ZenMKpSr4r6KrLt9B6y57qzEu43lAmKMi9/RRYFLdXpD7J9GRrjX1taLHF2Ll+fn jz5u0p6WltgnoxPa7s+OvhPI3dzyiOsGsCNk5M/yZXV2WQtoGxXSr4Fk/wcAJlD/ BpRfFvalubwNcTjaCM9BfUAtF0OFtQ25r3wIOO/CpRZ183JSTN+e1THo5wOan9DC PFspJ9YMDOoxFkEpwdJoqHiyc1fzHXmEbyjJXOaVBcbu0ThGNFM= =feIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uyqQH6igkwY9scqR--
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 08:36:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 03:36:19 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kojL9-0002UT-HC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:36:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kojL8-0002UG-27 for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:36:18 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kojL2-0003xS-3l; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:36:12 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=38080 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kojL1-0004GU-7H; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:36:11 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 24 Frimaire an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:36:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> (Chris Marusich's message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:36:58 -0800") Message-ID: <874kkoyebq.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Chris, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> skribis: > It's been almost half a year now, and we're not really any closer to > figuring out why the cross-built GCC bootstrap binary is > non-reproducible. It seems counter-productive to obsess about making > this specific binary reproducible, although I wish it could be so. > > What do you think about using the bootstrap binaries we built half a > year ago, and proceed with bootstrapping efforts? To be totally honest, > I'm feeling pretty exhausted by this bug, since I have spent so many > days trying to unravel it, and I haven't made any significant progress. > With no clear end in sight, I would really prefer to move on instead of > blocking the entire bootstrapping effort on this reproducibility bug. > The reproducibility of the bootstrap binaries is important, but simply > having any bootstrap binaries at all is also important. I think I have > done my due diligence to try making them reproducible. Most of them > are, but I just can't figure out why GCC isn't. I think it would be > best to proceed with the binaries we have. I didn=E2=80=99t follow the whole discussion nor did I try to investigate myself, but thanks a lot for going to great lengths trying to identify the issue; this is an impressive amount of work, and I can only share your disappointment. Given this effort, I agree that it may be best at this point to move on and start with these non-reproducible binaries. At least, the problem is now documented. > At this point, it might even make more sense to try bootstrapping for > powerpc64le instead of powerpc64, since the rest of the world seems to > be gravitating toward the little-endian variant on POWER9 hardware, and > thus various programs out there are more likely to be better tested on > powerpc64le than powerpc64. Yes, my understanding is that other people, in particular Tobias Platen and dftxbs3e, were looking at powerpc64le, so perhaps it=E2=80=99s a good i= dea to concentrate on that one? Anyhow, please let me know if/when bootstrap binaries should be uploaded to ftp.gnu.org (with a signed message). When updating bootstrap.scm to refer to them, please include the commit ID used to build them in the commit message. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 08:17:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 14 03:17:38 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50963 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1koj33-00021S-Gt for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:17:38 -0500 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:51978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1koj31-00021D-Ju for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 03:17:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [5.102.238.249]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B60F400E4; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 08:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:17:21 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <X9cfkfqlZZ7/5y8Y@E5400> References: <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JRM4f1yYltQp8k+u" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --JRM4f1yYltQp8k+u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 03:36:58PM -0800, Chris Marusich wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I tried to do some experiments to see if this problem happens with the > current GCC (version 10). >=20 > I built GCC 10 (not cross-compiling) on an x86_64 system using Guix with > substitutes on Debian. (I tried without substitutes, too, but some of > the dependencies failed to be built for unrelated reasons.) I then > manually copied the /gnu/store and related files (except for the GCC 10 > output paths) from Debian onto a Fedora machine, and I rebuilt GCC 10 > there using Guix (again, not cross-compiling). The output on Fedora was > identical to that of Debian. Of course, the configuration Guix uses to > build GCC 10 is a bit different from the one used to (cross-)build the > powerpc64-linux bootstrap GCC, but it's still an interesting data point. > In particular, GCC 10's libstdc++.a was identical on Debian and Fedora, > so I suppose maybe they've fixed that issue in the more recent versions. >=20 > I also tried to use Guix (the current version, from master branch - I > ran guix pull today) to cross-build gcc-10 for the powerpc64-linux-gnu > target on both Debian and Fedora x86_64 systems, starting from scratch > with substitutes enabled: >=20 > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -e '(@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc-1= 0)' >=20 > On both Debian and Fedora, the build of gcc-10.2.0.drv failed with the > following error: >=20 > checking for -fPIC -shared... yes > configure: error:=20 > Building GCC with plugin support requires a host that supports > -fPIC, -shared, -ldl and -rdynamic. >=20 > This basically just means that we can't cross-build gcc-10 for > powerpc64-linux-gnu out of the box on x86_64 with current Guix. I was > hoping that the builds would succeed, and I would be able to find out if > cross-building gcc-10 in this way would create non-reproducible > artifacts. I was hoping maybe I could ask for help from the GCC > community if that were the case. But since it doesn't even build, the > results of that experiment were not very useful. >=20 > It's been almost half a year now, and we're not really any closer to > figuring out why the cross-built GCC bootstrap binary is > non-reproducible. It seems counter-productive to obsess about making > this specific binary reproducible, although I wish it could be so. >=20 > What do you think about using the bootstrap binaries we built half a > year ago, and proceed with bootstrapping efforts? To be totally honest, > I'm feeling pretty exhausted by this bug, since I have spent so many > days trying to unravel it, and I haven't made any significant progress. > With no clear end in sight, I would really prefer to move on instead of > blocking the entire bootstrapping effort on this reproducibility bug. > The reproducibility of the bootstrap binaries is important, but simply > having any bootstrap binaries at all is also important. I think I have > done my due diligence to try making them reproducible. Most of them > are, but I just can't figure out why GCC isn't. I think it would be > best to proceed with the binaries we have. >=20 > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 > > Hi Chris, > > > > Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> skribis: > > > >> From e3d1778a86dfd171d59d91eb01417faaf63dfa17 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > >> From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> > >> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:25:43 -0700 > >> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Disable libstdc++ in bootstrap GCC. > >> > >> Fixes part of: <https://bugs.gnu.org/41669>. > >> > >> * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%gcc-static) [#:configure-flags]: A= dd > >> --disable-libstdcxx to disable building the libstdc++-v3 directory. > > > > [...] > > > >> + ;; In this GCC version, libstdc++.a is not reprodu= cible: > >> + ;; https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug= =3D41669 > >> + "--disable-libstdcxx" > > > > Does it have any effect with GCC > 4.7? My understanding is that it > > builds its libstdc++ no matter what. > > > > Also, if it=E2=80=99s just libstdc++.a that=E2=80=99s problematic (orde= ring issue in the > > .a archive?), perhaps we can use --disable-shared? > > > > My 2=C2=A2 (I didn=E2=80=99t follow the whole discussion), > > Ludo=E2=80=99. >=20 > Actually, --disable-shared is already present in the configure options. > My understanding is that libstdc++.a is a statically linked library > (perhaps I am mistaken...?), so I don't see why the presence or absence > of --disable-shared would affect it. I thought that option was just > supposed to control whether or not to build shared libraries. >=20 > Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:52:48PM -0700, Chris Marusich wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >>=20 > >> Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> writes: > >>=20 > >> > Is this a file we actually need during the bootstrap process? Can we > >> > "work around it" by just deleting it? >=20 > I've spent all of my spare Guix time trying to debug this > reproducibility issue first, and half a year has passed without progress > as a result. I think we should use the bootstrap binaries we built half > a year ago, and move on with life. >=20 > At this point, it might even make more sense to try bootstrapping for > powerpc64le instead of powerpc64, since the rest of the world seems to > be gravitating toward the little-endian variant on POWER9 hardware, and > thus various programs out there are more likely to be better tested on > powerpc64le than powerpc64. >=20 > In any case, I don't think we should wait any longer. As far as powerpc64 vs powerpc64le, I'll let those with the hardware have more of a say, they'll be the ones using it. As far as the bootstrap binaries go, I don't remember having this much pushback with my binaries for aarch64 (just a request to rebuild with guile-2.0.14 since it was reproducible), and I'm not sure how much Janneke had with the Hurd binaries but I don't think it was this much. The ultimate goal anyway is to replace them with artisanally crafted mes binaries, and I understand we want to have them as reproducible as possible, but I don't think it's fair to keep this architecture out when we've let other ones in with similar reproducible problems. --=20 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --JRM4f1yYltQp8k+u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl/XH40ACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1F2OQ/+IhXOhx+T/vTIGuINNrtMsoKqdHdGDlzxZOpaLVp7mp/vb/O8S5EPsHD+ yryb8CuSo5FktYZ/qbRHLIO9TgKKzZe08nklB1ZZQTP1ZUFwwrHvBIbntWk1JQUm s8/slZwZyZBOp/NjjM5+7ypBiW7ml2pA1vLVHvyrWoDCc2n5r1p1T0t2rwwUSbRO zAzTzArMVHyWWeugzbB8MsjMLzSJquyZsyznB4yY31s+e8Kv6+pL+W+3u80bcfp0 h9BWS2fqvtck1vjVQu6T1KNyqbgGJicjqwpt+y6vJpIhxR7Lltg346saJxqmzOHy zTKHFZJBkmKF9N3PSGlif2DHyuK/QtXT1GxMcCgvoThrzt+mx9JNm6MP8eVWGu5f Typ/3ncskStf+ybf2n+vmV4FDMDwT9KhB+N3W1zo54jSC9hZ3LWHXfK11jnzhhyb L50SbyokTVwqhGZOrtvgh3el9Zgzg0+scJikjvHYIoJppX8m3M+QX6vCwhXFqpFa +UuZobypZwr2G+AGZk4EiUWUEDSdfXaFtnmOfXHMXj9D0Uyl/i4+DXDKNOMnburk XD6HlRv5C+Ncb/c5AuOjZXtjt1vL2+929+Jt1T+4DIEqMQxBJe8RQdsRtGOTOWLT Twn0lmkK/miuls1sMKmYqzkHmshvn8gG1ynvQr6TuCYkFR/lk2w= =6SXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JRM4f1yYltQp8k+u--
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2020 23:37:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 13 18:37:12 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1koavP-0006FD-Kk for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:37:12 -0500 Received: from mail-pj1-f47.google.com ([209.85.216.47]:35591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <cmmarusich@HIDDEN>) id 1koavN-0006Ez-Tv for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:37:10 -0500 Received: by mail-pj1-f47.google.com with SMTP id b5so5527119pjl.0 for <41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:37:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=cZZl9As+oUobuS6gtFW0qWSzjVJT1cbtpzhX6/HUEc0=; b=d+M3ccVt3pdnvoPMCTvAk65N0iU33GPuLktNAx5qFJXYLIBBNe/IigNGeDt+BKXY0I EX3bDHtWxJKMocC2VBpGYP3RWEEnt/BxUs8+pFC22g2Y0qKLgokVV9yR7PNCB2HzBe9f tvXu4X9hjLATlgoaTLXOxEOsDm1oLI2+6meHspvlTsisGfxuUW+veNsbkLOfRmhK3dB+ s+CkaLLMxZRfvIBFBu622awfbNS4aX2epieXnx+RyIi9xOPXza5JEbR4RJ7R/HgM2KDu aGxpjVegGTGAZgzsDQX65Hbr761VMXTG6wX0F9cQZs1WmojEgABopYe9RsxuVw2Mnn4R pD8A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=cZZl9As+oUobuS6gtFW0qWSzjVJT1cbtpzhX6/HUEc0=; b=ZZDLlyzAwZTLi/+GyYif8J6T8M4F2yWXCnH2YilgwBsNsdbUsJpN2f6z0zYH+G82+I CWW/Nv+de+IGBBloaS2R3fZaMBeP9c6PUjVD8EtvzWQobt0v1EI676ffXlyXtNzp+K1U QBYs/xpEuOfD7ZVlSxCcppT/XnvePIhiEiBB6cxq4rlTO0ix5up08CX3737Gjo0p+PbJ u70++0dk3juNEyT5AUgfJjMsvFjSnmD4h3cdsRtUkuw8lRQsGdGa8MeCwNQghVL88Zar 4Gz8AP+3BQHbB0ii0eNlCHHl/54MhClFPq7A0W8he2DV5GA6wh8423B7eaFEq6abK0D3 5f2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531+AN7hKgyfZt4v5fJFG3EHl6NpdmO5I0y6+faSiZsmSvT6raGO QSevDyd2diqwBoisGJtFlA0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyea/hHAjBs13+5IJpbR3Bc2f7ONfzSGlBTdLaKMhOc2Y2WCcnPKFukyVeySRegp4qpTo+tpw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9681:b029:db:fd65:d10e with SMTP id n1-20020a1709029681b02900dbfd65d10emr2462177plp.6.1607902623937; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from garuda-lan ([2601:601:9d00:688::e6b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c10sm17235286pfo.159.2020.12.13.15.37.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:36:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 05 Oct 2020 14:33:04 +0200, Mon, 5 Oct 2020 15:47:10 +0300") Message-ID: <87pn3dth0l.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I tried to do some experiments to see if this problem happens with the current GCC (version 10). I built GCC 10 (not cross-compiling) on an x86_64 system using Guix with substitutes on Debian. (I tried without substitutes, too, but some of the dependencies failed to be built for unrelated reasons.) I then manually copied the /gnu/store and related files (except for the GCC 10 output paths) from Debian onto a Fedora machine, and I rebuilt GCC 10 there using Guix (again, not cross-compiling). The output on Fedora was identical to that of Debian. Of course, the configuration Guix uses to build GCC 10 is a bit different from the one used to (cross-)build the powerpc64-linux bootstrap GCC, but it's still an interesting data point. In particular, GCC 10's libstdc++.a was identical on Debian and Fedora, so I suppose maybe they've fixed that issue in the more recent versions. I also tried to use Guix (the current version, from master branch - I ran guix pull today) to cross-build gcc-10 for the powerpc64-linux-gnu target on both Debian and Fedora x86_64 systems, starting from scratch with substitutes enabled: guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -e '(@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc-10)' On both Debian and Fedora, the build of gcc-10.2.0.drv failed with the following error: checking for -fPIC -shared... yes configure: error:=20 Building GCC with plugin support requires a host that supports -fPIC, -shared, -ldl and -rdynamic. This basically just means that we can't cross-build gcc-10 for powerpc64-linux-gnu out of the box on x86_64 with current Guix. I was hoping that the builds would succeed, and I would be able to find out if cross-building gcc-10 in this way would create non-reproducible artifacts. I was hoping maybe I could ask for help from the GCC community if that were the case. But since it doesn't even build, the results of that experiment were not very useful. It's been almost half a year now, and we're not really any closer to figuring out why the cross-built GCC bootstrap binary is non-reproducible. It seems counter-productive to obsess about making this specific binary reproducible, although I wish it could be so. What do you think about using the bootstrap binaries we built half a year ago, and proceed with bootstrapping efforts? To be totally honest, I'm feeling pretty exhausted by this bug, since I have spent so many days trying to unravel it, and I haven't made any significant progress. With no clear end in sight, I would really prefer to move on instead of blocking the entire bootstrapping effort on this reproducibility bug. The reproducibility of the bootstrap binaries is important, but simply having any bootstrap binaries at all is also important. I think I have done my due diligence to try making them reproducible. Most of them are, but I just can't figure out why GCC isn't. I think it would be best to proceed with the binaries we have. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> writes: > Hi Chris, > > Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> skribis: > >> From e3d1778a86dfd171d59d91eb01417faaf63dfa17 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >> From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> >> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:25:43 -0700 >> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Disable libstdc++ in bootstrap GCC. >> >> Fixes part of: <https://bugs.gnu.org/41669>. >> >> * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%gcc-static) [#:configure-flags]: Add >> --disable-libstdcxx to disable building the libstdc++-v3 directory. > > [...] > >> + ;; In this GCC version, libstdc++.a is not reproduci= ble: >> + ;; https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D4= 1669 >> + "--disable-libstdcxx" > > Does it have any effect with GCC > 4.7? My understanding is that it > builds its libstdc++ no matter what. > > Also, if it=E2=80=99s just libstdc++.a that=E2=80=99s problematic (orderi= ng issue in the > .a archive?), perhaps we can use --disable-shared? > > My 2=C2=A2 (I didn=E2=80=99t follow the whole discussion), > Ludo=E2=80=99. Actually, --disable-shared is already present in the configure options. My understanding is that libstdc++.a is a statically linked library (perhaps I am mistaken...?), so I don't see why the presence or absence of --disable-shared would affect it. I thought that option was just supposed to control whether or not to build shared libraries. Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> writes: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:52:48PM -0700, Chris Marusich wrote: >> Hi everyone, >>=20 >> Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> writes: >>=20 >> > Is this a file we actually need during the bootstrap process? Can we >> > "work around it" by just deleting it? I've spent all of my spare Guix time trying to debug this reproducibility issue first, and half a year has passed without progress as a result. I think we should use the bootstrap binaries we built half a year ago, and move on with life. At this point, it might even make more sense to try bootstrapping for powerpc64le instead of powerpc64, since the rest of the world seems to be gravitating toward the little-endian variant on POWER9 hardware, and thus various programs out there are more likely to be better tested on powerpc64le than powerpc64. 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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2020 12:47:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 05 08:47:57 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kPPuH-0002z7-4H for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:47:57 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:58896) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1kPPuE-0002yt-Gh for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:47:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [31.210.181.177]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55EB640216; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 15:47:10 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <20201005124710.GA21174@E5400> References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:52:48PM -0700, Chris Marusich wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 > > Is this a file we actually need during the bootstrap process? Can we > > "work around it" by just deleting it? >=20 > That's a good idea. I tried building %gcc-static with the > --disable-libstdcxx configure flag (see attached patch), and that caused > the build of %gcc-static itself to become reproducible on Debian and > Fedora when using exactly the same inputs. To clarify, I have recently > run the following experiments: >=20 > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | Case | Build | libstdcxx | substitutes? | Inputs = | Result | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | | | | | Built fresh o= n | Output | > | 1 | %gcc-static | enabled | yes | Debian, copie= d | differs: | > | | | | | to Fedora = | libstdc++.a | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | | | | | Re-used input= s | Toy binary | > | 2 | toy program | n/a | yes | from above = | does not | > | | | | | = | differ | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | | | | | Built fresh o= n | Output does | > | 3 | %gcc-static | disabled | yes | Debian, copie= d | not differ | > | | | | | to Fedora = | | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | | | | | Built fresh o= n | Output | > | 4 | %gcc-static | disabled | yes | Debian, fresh= | differs: | > | | | | | on Fedora = | various files | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ > | | | | | Inputs failed= | Build failed | > | 5 | %gcc-static | disabled | no | to build on = | on both | > | | | | | both systems= | systems | > +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+--------------= --+---------------+ >=20 > The "toy program" in case 2 was just this: >=20 > #include <stdio.h> > int main() { > printf("Hello"); > return 0; > } >=20 > When I say I "copied" the inputs from Debian to Fedora, I mean just > that. I copied stuff like /gnu and /var/guix from Debian to Fedora > (while guix-daemon was stopped, of course), GC'd just %gcc-static on > Fedora, and then rebuilt %gcc-static on Fedora so it would use exactly > the same inputs as were used on Debian. >=20 > The most notable new findings are cases 3 and 4. Case 5 made me pretty > sad because I spent almost an entire weekend trying to build Guix from > source using various binary Guix releases, and in none of the attempts > was I successful in running "guix pull" or even just "guix environment > --pure guix" without substitutes, which really surprised me. >=20 > Case 3 confirms Efraim's suggestion: we can fix the libstdc++.a > reproducibility problem by simply not building libstdc++.a in the first > place. It also confirms that, when built with --disable-libstdcxx, > %gcc-static can be built reproducibly on different systems as long as > exactly the same inputs are used. Whether or not %gcc-static can be > used to successfully bootstrap packages on powerpc64-linux when built in > this way remains to be seen. >=20 > Case 4, unfortunately, demonstrates that there are still other > reproducibility issues that we have not yet resolved. Since the only > difference between cases 3 and 4 is how the inputs were realized, the > differing %gcc-static output must be caused by the inputs somehow. >=20 > In case 4, the %gcc-static output differed in the following files (the > hashes on the left are MD5 hashes): >=20 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > --- /dev/fd/63 2020-09-25 20:35:33.386554595 -0700 > +++ /dev/fd/62 2020-09-25 20:35:33.387554604 -0700 > @@ -1,28 +1,28 @@ > -c9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/c++ > -092823145dc96b9eb81111362f7b4ced ./bin/cpp > -c9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/g++ > -e4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/gcc > +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/c++ > +9f1fd993e4f2b796fcc56f0b2f8a47d2 ./bin/cpp > +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/g++ > +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/gcc > f9d94f4bb61f70d14ea4b2ce73c9be9d ./bin/gcc-ar > 01fc2184f99c558771aa8f2fe30b373d ./bin/gcc-nm > da5356ee09ccda4ca06758d056370f7e ./bin/gcc-ranlib > -98645f7b00ba185e713915099853fd37 ./bin/gcov > -37dd62589454703ae7f2eaac1668b66e ./bin/gcov-dump > -f3dbc7e0c84a40194af3aa2429444e87 ./bin/gcov-tool > -c9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ > -c9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ > -e4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc > -e4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 > +a208bedbfca9c7bd6c27d0d42f7096fe ./bin/gcov > +43330e8ae00976b4b3427d2f83b0725e ./bin/gcov-dump > +9f37da5e96f147d733eb7195350ae5d2 ./bin/gcov-tool > +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ > +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ > +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc > +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 > f9d94f4bb61f70d14ea4b2ce73c9be9d ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-ar > 01fc2184f99c558771aa8f2fe30b373d ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-nm > da5356ee09ccda4ca06758d056370f7e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-ranlib > -6ed530d13e65c3500b7e7b7cc863afdc ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1 > -24a83af179ca8849da8c64aa854ec8ed ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1plus > -0c05b45bb926a06c2b09acdb1db9aad0 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/collect2 > +22b72247a5706f090505341263ca1fc2 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1 > +3be618d184038dd30011d6aa8198c0be ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1plus > +2f31e84c01cc087318d0c7f15b6e3f47 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/collect2 > 417a5b42a26275b2c912db16b9abf73a ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/install-tools/fixincl > fd6f80ec9089ddf51f9cac26299e45af ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/install-tools/fixinc.sh > a585abbd6a9cdc474564b54fc72e4efa ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/install-tools/mkheaders > 5071acceb24c0c0e8a423286205ed54c ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/install-tools/mkinstalldirs > -4e77b773ac45ce8f82a4d21a34063920 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/lto-wrapper > +5267311e0ed8bb5358e5556dfa205ca6 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/lto-wrapper > a90ab86f837913280f72beb5310714bc ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cr= tbegin.o > 0b38aa831c40b6bc4fb22248746d60d8 ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cr= tbeginS.o > 8f62d8795bebd8e87caa3640522ff93b ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cr= tbeginT.o > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > These appear to be the same diffs that I reported before - with the > notable exception that libstdc++.a now is missing from the list of > differing files (hooray!). >=20 > Going forward, I'm not sure how best to investigate the inputs to find > out what's causing the differences. I just know I really, really, > really don't want to rebuild everything multiple times, since it takes > hours/days. If you have any creative ideas for how to speed up the > investigation, I'm all ears. >=20 Does diffoscope provide any useful clues as to what's going on? I don't remember if gcc-5.5.0 was reproducible when I created the aarch64 bootstrap binaries. > --=20 > Chris > From e3d1778a86dfd171d59d91eb01417faaf63dfa17 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:25:43 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Disable libstdc++ in bootstrap GCC. >=20 > Fixes part of: <https://bugs.gnu.org/41669>. >=20 > * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%gcc-static) [#:configure-flags]: Add > --disable-libstdcxx to disable building the libstdc++-v3 directory. > --- > gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm | 4 ++++ > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) >=20 > diff --git a/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm b/gnu/packages/make-bootstra= p.scm > index b2d3e2a326..8632d63c21 100644 > --- a/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm > +++ b/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm > @@ -487,6 +487,10 @@ for `sh' in $PATH, and without nscd, and with static= NSS modules." > ;; Make sure gcc-nm doesn't require liblto_plugin.so. > "--disable-lto" > =20 > + ;; In this GCC version, libstdc++.a is not reproducib= le: > + ;; https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D41= 669 > + "--disable-libstdcxx" > + > "--disable-shared" > "--disable-plugin" > "--disable-libmudflap" > --=20 > 2.26.2 >=20 --=20 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAl97Fc4ACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1HKChAAnk7rWppLToPQdIgAyKKvKdoVN9iJBetlXuNqumDKsZJOv5ge2vNxCdz5 Yn3IiCB6VpwL/u2gjpimgwAdjI4LwO/pB2i86S8DVdQ+M+IgQ6mIEpuO6GCVy0K0 QB+GAzvU/0otmV/XMOB9yosLvPkdA1394pEzkLfuPjCzepe0NxznP8nIAoipeYK0 q0iDT2DWWrZX8jdV8JZEwVHKF1k5KjgNQNyuc3ubyK8CTIqxWJu+wLqZjgBxiF0z dPBDH5eJmgkyqhkiQotlWN/5cqeNuS64gybf7j15NAK+v8yDfYtDZObyIKUCI75o cSiiOIv/lIHo9Mk893aZ6OL6oCrC5u4loqbyjiiYJdT5n8QPSX5gkaq+os13XqW0 Dw4IHm7e4SrnakqTuHjaFu9IAyj/h5PJZMC5r7EvpD7Qqk/XeSFATskJDyto7EYI H16iHM+YgUycFc9aWnzeWGPYvNJLYhEH3qqGUiOOXZXyv0e2XwdiVpWpJ9RZO8r9 wUd+OS5hPFmmtcPvaJuFSNBhTtts3RWcSKVf5VdBM/+cfHIQMe6RWlNsl94BQxX+ cjW25lz8e6j5dwH4fv1mz7x38jzZaTkUsMglMtSf7dZBhyFMSBplAhFlv+zXElpv lr0dO2AiD4tddZSsemCemSaP3ZltzyNiGxOGVJI2YPEPLbEscu0= =zIrx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2020 12:33:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 05 08:33:20 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48255 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kPPg7-0002cV-Nh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:33:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kPPg5-0002cH-03 for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:33:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kPPfy-0006Ta-Mv; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:33:10 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=35072 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1kPPft-0004OU-SJ; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 08:33:07 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 14 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 14:33:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wo0hqbb3.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chris Marusich's message of "Fri, 25 Sep 2020 23:52:48 -0700") Message-ID: <87pn5wzwcf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Chris, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> skribis: > From e3d1778a86dfd171d59d91eb01417faaf63dfa17 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:25:43 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Disable libstdc++ in bootstrap GCC. > > Fixes part of: <https://bugs.gnu.org/41669>. > > * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%gcc-static) [#:configure-flags]: Add > --disable-libstdcxx to disable building the libstdc++-v3 directory. [...] > + ;; In this GCC version, libstdc++.a is not reproducib= le: > + ;; https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D41= 669 > + "--disable-libstdcxx" Does it have any effect with GCC > 4.7? My understanding is that it builds its libstdc++ no matter what. Also, if it=E2=80=99s just libstdc++.a that=E2=80=99s problematic (ordering= issue in the .a archive?), perhaps we can use --disable-shared? My 2=C2=A2 (I didn=E2=80=99t follow the whole discussion), Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Can we > "work around it" by just deleting it? That's a good idea. I tried building %gcc-static with the =2D-disable-libstdcxx configure flag (see attached patch), and that caused the build of %gcc-static itself to become reproducible on Debian and Fedora when using exactly the same inputs. To clarify, I have recently run the following experiments: +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | Case | Build | libstdcxx | substitutes? | Inputs = | Result | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | | | | | Built fresh on = | Output | | 1 | %gcc-static | enabled | yes | Debian, copied = | differs: | | | | | | to Fedora = | libstdc++.a | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | | | | | Re-used inputs = | Toy binary | | 2 | toy program | n/a | yes | from above = | does not | | | | | | = | differ | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | | | | | Built fresh on = | Output does | | 3 | %gcc-static | disabled | yes | Debian, copied = | not differ | | | | | | to Fedora = | | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | | | | | Built fresh on = | Output | | 4 | %gcc-static | disabled | yes | Debian, fresh = | differs: | | | | | | on Fedora = | various files | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ | | | | | Inputs failed = | Build failed | | 5 | %gcc-static | disabled | no | to build on = | on both | | | | | | both systems = | systems | +------+-------------+---------------------+--------------+----------------= +---------------+ The "toy program" in case 2 was just this: #include <stdio.h> int main() { printf("Hello"); return 0; } When I say I "copied" the inputs from Debian to Fedora, I mean just that. I copied stuff like /gnu and /var/guix from Debian to Fedora (while guix-daemon was stopped, of course), GC'd just %gcc-static on Fedora, and then rebuilt %gcc-static on Fedora so it would use exactly the same inputs as were used on Debian. The most notable new findings are cases 3 and 4. Case 5 made me pretty sad because I spent almost an entire weekend trying to build Guix from source using various binary Guix releases, and in none of the attempts was I successful in running "guix pull" or even just "guix environment =2D-pure guix" without substitutes, which really surprised me. Case 3 confirms Efraim's suggestion: we can fix the libstdc++.a reproducibility problem by simply not building libstdc++.a in the first place. It also confirms that, when built with --disable-libstdcxx, %gcc-static can be built reproducibly on different systems as long as exactly the same inputs are used. Whether or not %gcc-static can be used to successfully bootstrap packages on powerpc64-linux when built in this way remains to be seen. Case 4, unfortunately, demonstrates that there are still other reproducibility issues that we have not yet resolved. Since the only difference between cases 3 and 4 is how the inputs were realized, the differing %gcc-static output must be caused by the inputs somehow. In case 4, the %gcc-static output differed in the following files (the hashes on the left are MD5 hashes): =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- =2D-- /dev/fd/63 2020-09-25 20:35:33.386554595 -0700 +++ /dev/fd/62 2020-09-25 20:35:33.387554604 -0700 @@ -1,28 +1,28 @@ =2Dc9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/c++ =2D092823145dc96b9eb81111362f7b4ced ./bin/cpp =2Dc9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/g++ =2De4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/gcc +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/c++ +9f1fd993e4f2b796fcc56f0b2f8a47d2 ./bin/cpp +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/g++ +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/gcc f9d94f4bb61f70d14ea4b2ce73c9be9d ./bin/gcc-ar 01fc2184f99c558771aa8f2fe30b373d ./bin/gcc-nm da5356ee09ccda4ca06758d056370f7e ./bin/gcc-ranlib =2D98645f7b00ba185e713915099853fd37 ./bin/gcov =2D37dd62589454703ae7f2eaac1668b66e ./bin/gcov-dump =2Df3dbc7e0c84a40194af3aa2429444e87 ./bin/gcov-tool =2Dc9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ =2Dc9b0dfcbad566c0b8b88df94bb993312 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ =2De4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc =2De4cc43b7790dcd25f31419bad606b36e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 +a208bedbfca9c7bd6c27d0d42f7096fe ./bin/gcov +43330e8ae00976b4b3427d2f83b0725e ./bin/gcov-dump +9f37da5e96f147d733eb7195350ae5d2 ./bin/gcov-tool +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ +8f02302b55643f1c711e472a42fea8bd ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc +583d1b011a7ba009d7385117dd7a33c8 ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 f9d94f4bb61f70d14ea4b2ce73c9be9d ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-ar 01fc2184f99c558771aa8f2fe30b373d ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-nm da5356ee09ccda4ca06758d056370f7e ./bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-ranlib =2D6ed530d13e65c3500b7e7b7cc863afdc ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1 =2D24a83af179ca8849da8c64aa854ec8ed ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/cc1plus =2D0c05b45bb926a06c2b09acdb1db9aad0 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/collect2 +22b72247a5706f090505341263ca1fc2 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= cc1 +3be618d184038dd30011d6aa8198c0be ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= cc1plus +2f31e84c01cc087318d0c7f15b6e3f47 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= collect2 417a5b42a26275b2c912db16b9abf73a ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= install-tools/fixincl fd6f80ec9089ddf51f9cac26299e45af ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= install-tools/fixinc.sh a585abbd6a9cdc474564b54fc72e4efa ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= install-tools/mkheaders 5071acceb24c0c0e8a423286205ed54c ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= install-tools/mkinstalldirs =2D4e77b773ac45ce8f82a4d21a34063920 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.= 0/lto-wrapper +5267311e0ed8bb5358e5556dfa205ca6 ./libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/= lto-wrapper a90ab86f837913280f72beb5310714bc ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/crtb= egin.o 0b38aa831c40b6bc4fb22248746d60d8 ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/crtb= eginS.o 8f62d8795bebd8e87caa3640522ff93b ./lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/crtb= eginT.o =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- These appear to be the same diffs that I reported before - with the notable exception that libstdc++.a now is missing from the list of differing files (hooray!). Going forward, I'm not sure how best to investigate the inputs to find out what's causing the differences. I just know I really, really, really don't want to rebuild everything multiple times, since it takes hours/days. If you have any creative ideas for how to speed up the investigation, I'm all ears. =2D-=20 Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-gnu-Disable-libstdc-in-bootstrap-GCC.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From=20e3d1778a86dfd171d59d91eb01417faaf63dfa17 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:25:43 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Disable libstdc++ in bootstrap GCC. Fixes part of: <https://bugs.gnu.org/41669>. * gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm (%gcc-static) [#:configure-flags]: Add =2D-disable-libstdcxx to disable building the libstdc++-v3 directory. =2D-- gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm b/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.= scm index b2d3e2a326..8632d63c21 100644 =2D-- a/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm +++ b/gnu/packages/make-bootstrap.scm @@ -487,6 +487,10 @@ for `sh' in $PATH, and without nscd, and with static N= SS modules." ;; Make sure gcc-nm doesn't require liblto_plugin.so. 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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2020 06:29:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 13 02:29:53 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kHLWL-00026b-Ip for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 02:29:53 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:40960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <efraim@HIDDEN>) id 1kHLWJ-00026M-Iz for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 02:29:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [31.210.181.177]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DBF24000B; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:28:58 +0300 From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <20200913062858.GC1100@E5400> References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x41AAE7DCCA3D8351 X-PGP-Key: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/efraim_flashner.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --Clx92ZfkiYIKRjnr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 07:53:04PM -0700, Chris Marusich wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> writes: >=20 > > If you examine the derivations and their inputs, you'll find that they > > depend upon each other in the following order: > > > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@ (gnu packages make-= bootstrap) %gcc-bootstrap-tarball)' > > /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.= drv > > > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make= -bootstrap) %gcc-stripped)' > > /gnu/store/kcv3ja1rfr93hw6ly51878zjhdwpgv7z-gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv > > > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make= -bootstrap) %gcc-static)' > > /gnu/store/m9hfwppla8lph0vxa15lfkp81s2bbjjs-gcc-static-5.5.0.drv > > > > In other words, gcc-static-5.5.0.drv is an input of > > gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv, which is an input of > > gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv. Above, I've included example guix > > commands you can use to obtain each derivation. Using "guix build > > --check", I confirmed that all three of these derivations build > > reproducibly on my machine. >=20 > After further experimentation, I've discovered that %gcc-static, when > built as shown above (without the -d option, of course), produces > different output on Debian than on Fedora. >=20 > Specifically, the %gcc-static output contains a file named libstdc++.a. > This file is an archive file. Although its members are > content-identical in the case of Fedora and Debian, the order of the > members in the archive differs. Because the exact same inputs were > used, it seems very likely that a difference in the Guix build > environment caused the %gcc-static build logic to order the members of > libstdc++.a differently. >=20 > I built %gcc-static using Guix commit > a02b2f8b86c0227eb69aa24b4373aef456365334. Both Debian and Fedora were > x86_64-linux systems. I took the following steps to make absolutely > certain that the exact same inputs were used on Debian and Fedora: >=20 > - I provisioned two fresh EC2 instances (Debian and Fedora). >=20 > - I installed Guix on Debian. >=20 > - I did "guix pull" on Debian to get to the aforementioned commit. >=20 > - I built %gcc-static on Debian as indicated above. >=20 > - I manually copied the Guix store and the Guix database from Debian to > Fedora. >=20 > - I manually fixed up Fedora so it could run Guix (I created the guix > users, added a systemd unit file, disabled selinux, etc.). >=20 > - I manually verified the Guix version and the store contents were > identical on Fedora and Debian. >=20 > - I GC'd %gcc-static (and nothing else) on Fedora. >=20 > - I rebuilt %gcc-static on Fedora. >=20 > - I compared the Fedora %gcc-static output to the Debian %gcc-static > output. >=20 > The %gcc-static package uses GCC 5.5.0 as its source. I got a copy of > the GCC 5.5.0 source code, and I looked at it. However, it's complex. > I can't pinpoint where they actually build the libstdc++.a file. Can > anyone point me to the code that does this in the GCC 5.5.0 source? I > expected to find the logic hiding in a makefile or a configure script or > something, but I haven't found it yet. >=20 > Since this is an old GCC, it is possible that this was a known > reproducibility bug which has since been fixed. I haven't looked into > that possibility yet. If that's the case, though, it would be nice > because we could simply backport a fix. >=20 > --=20 > Chris Is this a file we actually need during the bootstrap process? 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Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> To: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:53:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chris Marusich's message of "Wed, 03 Jun 2020 02:48:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87a6xu2xrj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN>, Jack Hill <jackhill@HIDDEN>, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> writes: > If you examine the derivations and their inputs, you'll find that they > depend upon each other in the following order: > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@ (gnu packages make-bo= otstrap) %gcc-bootstrap-tarball)' > /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-b= ootstrap) %gcc-stripped)' > /gnu/store/kcv3ja1rfr93hw6ly51878zjhdwpgv7z-gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv > > guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-b= ootstrap) %gcc-static)' > /gnu/store/m9hfwppla8lph0vxa15lfkp81s2bbjjs-gcc-static-5.5.0.drv > > In other words, gcc-static-5.5.0.drv is an input of > gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv, which is an input of > gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv. Above, I've included example guix > commands you can use to obtain each derivation. Using "guix build > --check", I confirmed that all three of these derivations build > reproducibly on my machine. After further experimentation, I've discovered that %gcc-static, when built as shown above (without the -d option, of course), produces different output on Debian than on Fedora. Specifically, the %gcc-static output contains a file named libstdc++.a. This file is an archive file. Although its members are content-identical in the case of Fedora and Debian, the order of the members in the archive differs. Because the exact same inputs were used, it seems very likely that a difference in the Guix build environment caused the %gcc-static build logic to order the members of libstdc++.a differently. I built %gcc-static using Guix commit a02b2f8b86c0227eb69aa24b4373aef456365334. Both Debian and Fedora were x86_64-linux systems. I took the following steps to make absolutely certain that the exact same inputs were used on Debian and Fedora: =2D I provisioned two fresh EC2 instances (Debian and Fedora). =2D I installed Guix on Debian. =2D I did "guix pull" on Debian to get to the aforementioned commit. =2D I built %gcc-static on Debian as indicated above. =2D I manually copied the Guix store and the Guix database from Debian to Fedora. =2D I manually fixed up Fedora so it could run Guix (I created the guix users, added a systemd unit file, disabled selinux, etc.). =2D I manually verified the Guix version and the store contents were identical on Fedora and Debian. =2D I GC'd %gcc-static (and nothing else) on Fedora. =2D I rebuilt %gcc-static on Fedora. =2D I compared the Fedora %gcc-static output to the Debian %gcc-static output. The %gcc-static package uses GCC 5.5.0 as its source. I got a copy of the GCC 5.5.0 source code, and I looked at it. However, it's complex. I can't pinpoint where they actually build the libstdc++.a file. Can anyone point me to the code that does this in the GCC 5.5.0 source? I expected to find the logic hiding in a makefile or a configure script or something, but I haven't found it yet. Since this is an old GCC, it is possible that this was a known reproducibility bug which has since been fixed. I haven't looked into that possibility yet. 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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2020 21:09:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 11 17:09:57 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38247 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jjUSS-0008D3-VI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:09:57 -0400 Received: from minsky.hcoop.net ([104.248.1.95]:33730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jackhill@HIDDEN>) id 1jjUSR-0008Cr-7T for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:09:55 -0400 Received: from marsh.hcoop.net ([45.55.52.66]) by minsky.hcoop.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <jackhill@HIDDEN>) id 1jjUSL-0001oI-NB; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:09:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack Hill <jackhill@HIDDEN> X-X-Sender: jackhill@HIDDEN To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible In-Reply-To: <87imfzcuqi.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.2006111707180.5735@HIDDEN> References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87imfzcuqi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?L=E9o_Le_Bouter?= <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, Chris Marusich wrote: > - Try building with different kernel versions on the same machine, to > see if they differ. I've done the rebuild after updated from Linux 5.4.41 to 5.4.45, and go identical results to my previous build. I am using a different kernel configuration than Guix's default kernel, but it was the same between the builds. Best, Jack
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Full text available.Received: (at 41669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2020 22:20:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 10 18:20:23 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jj955-0005nV-IK for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 18:20:23 -0400 Received: from imta-36.everyone.net ([216.200.145.36]:36906 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1jj954-0005nM-17 for 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 18:20:23 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 05AMH0QI004431; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:20:21 -0700 X-Eon-Originating-Account: H4SzW8FaSkwGSif7jeDnM_m1YTv3GA2Qd-qjf20FW3M X-Eon-Dm: m0116293.ppops.net Received: by m0116293.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81c94d) id m0116293.5e67f91c.81a880; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:20:18 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJe4VyiMk/tzgIAAAAF,f938924eb8f51a25ce799e06f480d947 X-Eip: WAdbK_sdcq8v4IO9A5Md1wWTkjF1uhrNQrNtDrvbinY Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 00:20:08 +0200 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> To: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Message-ID: <20200610222008.GB3238@LionPure> References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87imfzcuqi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87imfzcuqi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.216, 18.0.687 definitions=2020-06-10_13:2020-06-10, 2020-06-10 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2004280000 definitions=main-2006100159 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi Chris, et al, On +2020-06-09 23:15:01 -0700, Chris Marusich wrote: > Hi Vincent and everyone, > > Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Is that showing the same (or a similar) problem : > > > > https://data.guix-patches.cbaines.net/gnu/store/0lcbxpw1vrca02dzpzw2rxhad7pn4zw7-gcc-objc-5.5.0 > > > > ? > > Can you clarify what you mean? I'm not sure what you're referring to. > > Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> writes: > > > At present, it seems possible that within the context of a single > > machine, gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv builds reproducibly, but on a > > different machine, it may (reproducibly) build a different output. > > I'm a bit paranoid about making mistakes, so I'll perform another full > > GC and then try yet again to build gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv in > > order to verify whether it truly produces the same output when all (or > > nearly all) of its inputs are rebuilt from scratch. > > I repeated the experiment on the same machine (it took a day or two to > build), and the result was the same: on my machine, > gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv builds identical output to what it built > before. To be clear, using Guix 8159ce1970d91567468cf1bacac313099a009d2a > on an x86_64-linux machine, I tried (yet again) the following steps: > [...] > Efraim's diff looks a little different in statx.h, even though he used > the same Guix commit as me. Maybe this is because he cross-compiled on > an aarch64-linux machine, while I cross-compiled on an x86_64-linux > machine. In the other cases, it looks like the binary files differ in > basically the same ways. I will share some examples below. > > Here is some diffoscope output between my c++ and Efraim's (many other > sections also differed in similarly cryptic ways): > [...] > > If I'm reading this correctly, one problem seems to be that our GCC > toolchains are putting symbols at different locations. This issue (and > maybe others) could be trickling down, causing other aspects of the > binaries to differ (e.g., in length). Nothing really stands out, but > when we discussed this on IRC, we thought perhaps factors like the > following might contribute to the non-reproducibility: > > - Perhaps we are all running different Linux kernel versions? In some > cases, the kernel version can unfortunately influence the build > output, so this might be worth testing. > > - Perhaps the GCC Makefiles etc. are doing something non-deterministic? > Questions triggered in my mind: Where are respective machines getting their rules for packing and aligning structs and unions? Is any struct or rule/flags source dynamically generated, where different rules could come from different defaults, or .configs, or even invalid memoizations jumping domains? Could pointer arithmetic get done in one domain and the offset be misused in another? Wrong C preprocessor? Difference in sort key comparisons for canonicalization of ordering? Hope that's not all red herrings :) Sorry for the noise otherwise. > - Something else? Hm, some race condition between processes that should be order-independent but are not. Then if different hardware components on different systems -- disks, memory, processors -- cause different but repeatable patterns of waits (convoying?) you could get repeatable but different builds. I guess you'd have to figure out which order was really right, and force the order of processing explicitly to that order, so all systems would do it that way. > > Avenues of investigation: > > - If anything obvious stands out from the diffoscope output, please > leave a comment. > > - Try building with different kernel versions on the same machine, to > see if they differ. > > - If somebody else could please confirm that running the following > command reports no difference on their own machine (i.e., exit code > 0), that would be good to know, since it would help further solidify > the theory that on a single machine, the build of gcc-static-5.5.0.drv > is reproducible, even if it is not reproducible across machines: > > guix build --no-substitutes --check --target=powerpc64-linux-gnu \ > -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-static)' > > - Try building two different versions of gcc-7.5.0 (maybe by hand?), and > then use them to build a simple reproduction case and compare results. > If we're lucky, maybe this will help us understand the problem better. > > We'll get there! > > -- > Chris -- Regards, Bengt Richter
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[73.97.103.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 124sm11447927pfb.15.2020.06.09.23.15.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> To: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 23:15:01 -0700 Message-ID: <87imfzcuqi.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN>, Jack Hill <jackhill@HIDDEN>, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Vincent and everyone, Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN> writes: > Is that showing the same (or a similar) problem : > > https://data.guix-patches.cbaines.net/gnu/store/0lcbxpw1vrca02dzpzw2rxhad= 7pn4zw7-gcc-objc-5.5.0 > > ? Can you clarify what you mean? I'm not sure what you're referring to. Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> writes: > At present, it seems possible that within the context of a single > machine, gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv builds reproducibly, but on a > different machine, it may (reproducibly) build a different output. > I'm a bit paranoid about making mistakes, so I'll perform another full > GC and then try yet again to build gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv in > order to verify whether it truly produces the same output when all (or > nearly all) of its inputs are rebuilt from scratch. I repeated the experiment on the same machine (it took a day or two to build), and the result was the same: on my machine, gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv builds identical output to what it built before. To be clear, using Guix 8159ce1970d91567468cf1bacac313099a009d2a on an x86_64-linux machine, I tried (yet again) the following steps: =2D I deleted as much as I could from the store using 'guix gc'. =2D I explicitly verified that all outputs for the following derivations no longer existed in the store: /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv /gnu/store/kcv3ja1rfr93hw6ly51878zjhdwpgv7z-gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv /gnu/store/m9hfwppla8lph0vxa15lfkp81s2bbjjs-gcc-static-5.5.0.drv /gnu/store/g9fpkg2qa27mka1znqsvx8vxqyabsj2y-gcc-7.5.0.drv =2D I then built gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv via the following command: guix build --no-substitutes --check --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu \ -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-static)' This rebuilt basically everything, including gcc-7.5.0.drv and the other derivations mentioned above. When I checked the built output of the gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv derivation, I found that its SHA-512 hash was identical to the one I calculated previously, which was: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 8aca7f332a1ba8e3c2225c161a7545b0a04ddd690d164dc97afee9c9ea067b0c49bc155e9f0= 6d285c22e24cdd16d91e59730af5f1dd9efcda13a26bede5948a2 /gnu/store/rsmhiyplm= biqm1qwniiafi4ak76pd61v-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0/gcc-stripped-5.5.0-power= pc64-linux-gnu.tar.xz =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Anyway, this confirms what we already knew: GCC builds reproducibly on my machine, but it is different when other people build it on other machines. I'm now quite convinced of this fact. Jack and Vincent shared their build results on the email list. For reference, you can get them here: https://flashner.co.il/~efraim/gcc-stripped-5.5.0-powerpc64-linux-gnu.tar.xz https://jackhill.us/misc/gcc-stripped-5.5.0-powerpc64-linux-gnu.tar.xz https://media.marusich.info/gcc-stripped-5.5.0-powerpc64-linux-gnu.tar.xz I also received a copy of Vincent's build results via private email. In short, they all seem to differ in basically the same ways: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [1] marusich@garuda-lan:~/Documents/notes/guix/ppc/gcc-stripped-tarballs $ diff -r chris jack Binary files chris/bin/c++ and jack/bin/c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/cpp and jack/bin/cpp differ Binary files chris/bin/g++ and jack/bin/g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/gcc and jack/bin/gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov and jack/bin/gcov differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-dump and jack/bin/gcov-dump differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-tool and jack/bin/gcov-tool differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ and jack/bin/powerpc64-linux= -gnu-c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ and jack/bin/powerpc64-linux= -gnu-g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc and jack/bin/powerpc64-linux= -gnu-gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 and jack/bin/powerpc64= -linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 differ Binary files chris/lib/libstdc++.a and jack/lib/libstdc++.a differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 and jack/libex= ec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus and jack/l= ibexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 and jack/= libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper and ja= ck/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper differ [1] marusich@garuda-lan:~/Documents/notes/guix/ppc/gcc-stripped-tarballs $ diff -r chris vincent Binary files chris/bin/c++ and vincent/bin/c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/cpp and vincent/bin/cpp differ Binary files chris/bin/g++ and vincent/bin/g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/gcc and vincent/bin/gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov and vincent/bin/gcov differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-dump and vincent/bin/gcov-dump differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-tool and vincent/bin/gcov-tool differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ and vincent/bin/powerpc64-li= nux-gnu-c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ and vincent/bin/powerpc64-li= nux-gnu-g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc and vincent/bin/powerpc64-li= nux-gnu-gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 and vincent/bin/powerp= c64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 differ Binary files chris/lib/libstdc++.a and vincent/lib/libstdc++.a differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 and vincent/li= bexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus and vincen= t/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 and vince= nt/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper and vi= ncent/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper differ [1] marusich@garuda-lan:~/Documents/notes/guix/ppc/gcc-stripped-tarballs $ diff -r chris efraim Binary files chris/bin/c++ and efraim/bin/c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/cpp and efraim/bin/cpp differ Binary files chris/bin/g++ and efraim/bin/g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/gcc and efraim/bin/gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov and efraim/bin/gcov differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-dump and efraim/bin/gcov-dump differ Binary files chris/bin/gcov-tool and efraim/bin/gcov-tool differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-c++ and efraim/bin/powerpc64-lin= ux-gnu-c++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-g++ and efraim/bin/powerpc64-lin= ux-gnu-g++ differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc and efraim/bin/powerpc64-lin= ux-gnu-gcc differ Binary files chris/bin/powerpc64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 and efraim/bin/powerpc= 64-linux-gnu-gcc-5.5.0 differ diff -r chris/lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/include-fixed/bits/statx.h = efraim/lib/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/include-fixed/bits/statx.h 5c5 < "/gnu/store/fa6wj5bxkj5ll1d7292a70knmyl7a0cr-glibc-2.31/include/bits/sta= tx.h" =2D-- > "/gnu/store/cb88z63hyg1icd2kkahiink2p291mhr2-glibc-2.31/include/bits/sta= tx.h" Binary files chris/lib/libstdc++.a and efraim/lib/libstdc++.a differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 and efraim/lib= exec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus and efraim= /libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/cc1plus differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 and efrai= m/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/collect2 differ Binary files chris/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper and ef= raim/libexec/gcc/powerpc64-linux-gnu/5.5.0/lto-wrapper differ [1] marusich@garuda-lan:~/Documents/notes/guix/ppc/gcc-stripped-tarballs $=20 =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Efraim's diff looks a little different in statx.h, even though he used the same Guix commit as me. Maybe this is because he cross-compiled on an aarch64-linux machine, while I cross-compiled on an x86_64-linux machine. In the other cases, it looks like the binary files differ in basically the same ways. I will share some examples below. Here is some diffoscope output between my c++ and Efraim's (many other sections also differed in similarly cryptic ways): =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- diffoscope chris/bin/c++ efraim/bin/c++ ... =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 /gnu/store/xakj5dgs1729297nv50s84sdmq2jiz64-bin= utils-2.34/bin/readelf --wide --symbols {} =E2=94=82 @@ -328,18 +328,18 @@ =E2=94=82 324: 00000000101aece0 152 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 check= _free.isra.0 =E2=94=82 325: 00000000101aed28 24 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 fini =E2=94=82 326: 00000000101b6008 8 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 stati= c_buf =E2=94=82 327: 00000000101b6010 32 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 last_= result =E2=94=82 328: 00000000101b6030 4 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 key =E2=94=82 329: 00000000101b6034 4 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 once =E2=94=82 330: 00000000101b23b8 104 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 22 _dlfc= n_hooks =E2=94=82 - 331: 00000000101a98f8 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool4freeEPv.constprop.2 =E2=94=82 - 332: 00000000101a9910 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool8allocateEm.constprop.3 =E2=94=82 - 333: 00000000101a99a0 180 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _GLOB= AL__sub_I_eh_alloc.cc =E2=94=82 - 334: 00000000101b4f68 64 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_114emergency_poolE =E2=94=82 + 331: 00000000101a9880 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool4freeEPv.constprop.2 =E2=94=82 + 332: 00000000101a9898 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool8allocateEm.constprop.3 =E2=94=82 + 333: 00000000101a9928 180 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _GLOB= AL__sub_I_eh_alloc.cc =E2=94=82 + 334: 00000000101b4f78 64 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_114emergency_poolE =E2=94=82 335: 000000001011c5a8 19 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ18= ggc_internal_allocmPFvPvEmmE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 336: 000000001011c5c0 27 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ26= ggc_internal_cleared_allocmPFvPvEmmE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 337: 000000001011c600 21 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ20= lang_specific_driverPP17cl_decoded_optionPjPiE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 338: 00000000101a42d0 228 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL12= elf_platformv =E2=94=82 339: 00000000101a42e8 236 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL15= elf_dcachebsizev =E2=94=82 340: 00000000101a4300 164 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL14= describe_cachejjjj.isra.0.constprop.1 =E2=94=82 341: 000000001011c6b8 752 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZL9a= sm_names ... =E2=94=82 @@ -1379,25 +1379,25 @@ =E2=94=82 1375: 00000000101b2448 0 SECTION LOCAL DEFAULT 23=20 =E2=94=82 1376: 00000000101b2b80 0 SECTION LOCAL DEFAULT 24=20 =E2=94=82 1377: 00000000101b6860 0 SECTION LOCAL DEFAULT 25=20 =E2=94=82 1378: 0000000000000000 0 SECTION LOCAL DEFAULT 26=20 =E2=94=82 1379: 0000000000000000 0 SECTION LOCAL DEFAULT 27=20 =E2=94=82 1380: 00000000101a2a28 752 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT 18 _nl_C= _LC_CTYPE =E2=94=82 1381: 00000000101ace20 56 IFUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 __lib= c_strcspn =E2=94=82 - 1382: 00000000101a9958 100 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 __cxa= _free_exception =E2=94=82 + 1382: 00000000101a98e0 100 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 __cxa= _free_exception =E2=94=82 1383: 00000000101acfe8 104 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT 19 stpcpy =E2=94=82 1384: 00000000101ab7e8 516 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 putch= ar =E2=94=82 - 1385: 00000000101a9598 20 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 _ZNKS= t9type_info15__is_function_pEv =E2=94=82 + 1385: 00000000101a9778 20 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 _ZNKS= t9type_info15__is_function_pEv =E2=94=82 1386: 000000001016a3cc 76 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT 7 _nl_C= _LC_CTYPE_class_print =E2=94=82 1387: 00000000101adfc0 640 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT 19 tsear= ch =E2=94=82 1388: 00000000101af0a0 176 FUNC WEAK DEFAULT 19 clock= _gettime =E2=94=82 1389: 00000000101a4150 4856 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 _ZNK6= driver12set_up_specsEv =E2=94=82 1390: 00000000101a9268 88 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 xmall= oc =E2=94=82 1391: 00000000101b1d68 8 OBJECT GLOBAL DEFAULT 22 __mor= ecore =E2=94=82 - 1392: 00000000101a9568 40 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 _ZSt1= 0unexpectedv =E2=94=82 + 1392: 00000000101a94f0 40 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 _ZSt1= 0unexpectedv =E2=94=82 1393: 00000000101a8ef0 60 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 lbase= name =E2=94=82 1394: 00000000101aded0 96 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 __get= dtablesize =E2=94=82 1395: 00000000101a4348 752 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 19 updat= e_path ... =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 /gnu/store/xakj5dgs1729297nv50s84sdmq2jiz64-bin= utils-2.34/bin/readelf --wide --decompress --hex-dump=3D.data.rel.ro {} =E2=94=82 @@ -112,27 +112,27 @@ =E2=94=82 0x101a1718 00000000 10164560 00000009 00000001 ......E`........ =E2=94=82 0x101a1728 00000000 10164570 00000000 10164578 ......Ep......Ex =E2=94=82 0x101a1738 0000000c 00000002 00000000 101499e8 ................ =E2=94=82 0x101a1748 00000000 10116018 00000001 00000001 ......`......... =E2=94=82 0x101a1758 00000000 10164588 00000000 10164590 ......E.......E. =E2=94=82 0x101a1768 00000007 00000001 00000000 10119850 ...............P =E2=94=82 0x101a1778 00000000 1015e290 00000002 00000002 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1788 00000000 101641c0 00000000 101653e8 ......A.......S. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1788 00000000 101641c0 00000000 101653a8 ......A.......S. =E2=94=82 0x101a1798 00000001 00000002 00000000 10164598 ..............E. =E2=94=82 0x101a17a8 00000000 10117df0 00000001 00000002 ......}......... =E2=94=82 0x101a17b8 00000000 101645a0 00000000 1015e238 ......E........8 =E2=94=82 0x101a17c8 00000002 00000002 00000000 101645a8 ..............E. =E2=94=82 0x101a17d8 00000000 101631d8 00000001 00000002 ......1......... =E2=94=82 0x101a17e8 00000000 101645b0 00000000 1015e1e0 ......E......... =E2=94=82 - 0x101a17f8 00000002 00000002 00000000 101653c0 ..............S. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a17f8 00000002 00000002 00000000 10165380 ..............S. =E2=94=82 0x101a1808 00000000 1015e268 00000003 00000003 .......h........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1818 00000000 101653c8 00000000 1015e268 ......S........h =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1828 00000003 00000003 00000000 101653d0 ..............S. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1818 00000000 10165388 00000000 1015e268 ......S........h =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1828 00000003 00000003 00000000 10165390 ..............S. =E2=94=82 0x101a1838 00000000 1015e268 00000003 00000002 .......h........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1848 00000000 101653d8 00000000 1015e268 ......S........h =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1848 00000000 10165398 00000000 1015e268 ......S........h =E2=94=82 0x101a1858 00000003 00000002 00000000 10144ea8 ..............N. =E2=94=82 0x101a1868 00000000 1015e1f0 00000002 00000002 ................ ... =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Here is some diffoscope output betweeen my c++ and Jack's (many other sections also differed in similarly cryptic ways): =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- diffoscope chris/bin/c++ jack/bin/c++ ... =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 /gnu/store/xakj5dgs1729297nv50s84sdmq2jiz64-bin= utils-2.34/bin/readelf --wide --symbols {} =E2=94=82 @@ -328,17 +328,17 @@ =E2=94=82 324: 00000000101aece0 152 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 check= _free.isra.0 =E2=94=82 325: 00000000101aed28 24 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 fini =E2=94=82 326: 00000000101b6008 8 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 stati= c_buf =E2=94=82 327: 00000000101b6010 32 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 last_= result =E2=94=82 328: 00000000101b6030 4 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 key =E2=94=82 329: 00000000101b6034 4 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 once =E2=94=82 330: 00000000101b23b8 104 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 22 _dlfc= n_hooks =E2=94=82 - 331: 00000000101a98f8 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool4freeEPv.constprop.2 =E2=94=82 - 332: 00000000101a9910 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool8allocateEm.constprop.3 =E2=94=82 - 333: 00000000101a99a0 180 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _GLOB= AL__sub_I_eh_alloc.cc =E2=94=82 + 331: 00000000101a94c0 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool4freeEPv.constprop.2 =E2=94=82 + 332: 00000000101a94d8 524 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_14pool8allocateEm.constprop.3 =E2=94=82 + 333: 00000000101a9568 180 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _GLOB= AL__sub_I_eh_alloc.cc =E2=94=82 334: 00000000101b4f68 64 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 24 _ZN12= _GLOBAL__N_114emergency_poolE =E2=94=82 335: 000000001011c5a8 19 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ18= ggc_internal_allocmPFvPvEmmE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 336: 000000001011c5c0 27 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ26= ggc_internal_cleared_allocmPFvPvEmmE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 337: 000000001011c600 21 OBJECT LOCAL DEFAULT 7 _ZZ20= lang_specific_driverPP17cl_decoded_optionPjPiE12__FUNCTION__ =E2=94=82 338: 00000000101a42d0 228 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL12= elf_platformv =E2=94=82 339: 00000000101a42e8 236 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL15= elf_dcachebsizev =E2=94=82 340: 00000000101a4300 164 FUNC LOCAL DEFAULT 19 _ZL14= describe_cachejjjj.isra.0.constprop.1 ... =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80 /gnu/store/xakj5dgs1729297nv50s84sdmq2jiz64-bin= utils-2.34/bin/readelf --wide --decompress --hex-dump=3D.data.rel.ro {} =E2=94=82 @@ -206,60 +206,60 @@ =E2=94=82 0x101a1cf8 00000000 101a3b08 00000000 10118108 ......;......... =E2=94=82 0x101a1d08 00000000 101a4120 00000000 10118120 ......A .......= =20 =E2=94=82 0x101a1d18 00000000 101a4108 00000000 10115758 ......A.......WX =E2=94=82 0x101a1d28 00000000 101a3a60 00000000 10118138 ......:`.......8 =E2=94=82 0x101a1d38 00000000 101a3a48 00000000 10115ae8 ......:H......Z. =E2=94=82 0x101a1d48 00000000 101a3c10 00000000 10118150 ......<........P =E2=94=82 0x101a1d58 00000000 101a4318 00000000 00000000 ......C......... =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1d68 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1dd8 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1d78 00000000 101650d0 00000000 101a1e70 ......P........p =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1d88 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1d70 ...............p =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1d98 00000000 101a9388 00000000 101a93a0 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1da8 00000000 101a9370 00000000 101a1dd8 .......p........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1db8 00000000 101650f0 00000000 101a1fd8 ......P......... =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1dc8 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1db0 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1dd8 00000000 101a93d0 00000000 101a93e8 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1de8 00000000 101a9598 00000000 101a9598 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1df8 00000000 101a9b20 00000000 101a9a90 ....... ........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e08 00000000 101a9430 00000000 101a9418 .......0........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e18 00000000 101a9400 00000000 101a2000 .............. . =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e28 00000000 10165118 00000000 00000000 ......Q......... =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e38 00000000 101a1e20 00000000 101a9580 ....... ........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e48 00000000 101a95c8 00000000 101a9598 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e58 00000000 101a9598 00000000 101a95e0 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e68 00000000 101a95b0 00000000 101a2000 .............. . =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e78 00000000 10165128 00000000 101a1dd8 ......Q(........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e88 00000000 10165138 00000000 101a1e70 ......Q8.......p =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1e98 00000000 101a2000 00000000 10165150 ...... .......QP =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ea8 00000000 101a2000 00000000 10165170 ...... .......Qp =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1eb8 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1e70 ...............p =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ec8 00000000 101a96e8 00000000 101a9748 ...............H =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ed8 00000000 101a9718 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ee8 00000000 101a1e80 00000000 101a9700 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ef8 00000000 101a9760 00000000 101a9730 .......`.......0 =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f08 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1e98 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f18 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f28 00000000 101a99b8 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f38 00000000 101a1ea8 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f48 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a99b8 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f58 00000000 101a1dd8 00000000 101651c0 ..............Q. =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f68 00000000 101a1e70 00000000 101a1dd8 .......p........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f78 00000000 101651e8 00000000 101a1e70 ......Q........p =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f88 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1f58 ...............X =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1f98 00000000 101a9880 00000000 101a98b0 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1fa8 00000000 101a9850 00000000 00000000 .......P........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1fb8 00000000 101a1f70 00000000 101a9898 .......p........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1fc8 00000000 101a98c8 00000000 101a9868 ...............h =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1fd8 00000000 101a1dd8 00000000 101652a8 ..............R. =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1fe8 00000000 101a1e20 00000000 00000000 ....... ........ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a1ff8 00000000 101a1fd8 00000000 101a9ac0 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a2008 00000000 101a9ad8 00000000 101a9598 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a2018 00000000 101a9598 00000000 101a9b20 ...............= =20 =E2=94=82 - 0x101a2028 00000000 101a9a90 00000000 101a9b08 ................ =E2=94=82 - 0x101a2038 00000000 101a9af0 00000000 101a9aa8 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1d68 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1f40 ...............@ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1d78 00000000 101650d0 00000000 101a1e30 ......P........0 =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1d88 00000000 101a1f40 00000000 101650f8 .......@......P. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1d98 00000000 101a1e30 00000000 00000000 .......0........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1da8 00000000 101a1d70 00000000 101a9448 .......p.......H =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1db8 00000000 101a9478 00000000 101a9418 .......x........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1dc8 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1d88 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1dd8 00000000 101a9460 00000000 101a9490 .......`........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1de8 00000000 101a9430 00000000 101a1f40 .......0.......@ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1df8 00000000 10165178 00000000 101a1e30 ......Qx.......0 =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e08 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1df0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e18 00000000 101a9610 00000000 101a9628 ...............( =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e28 00000000 101a95f8 00000000 101a1fb0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e38 00000000 10165198 00000000 101a1f40 ......Q........@ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e48 00000000 101651a8 00000000 101a1e30 ......Q........0 =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e58 00000000 101a1fb0 00000000 101651c0 ..............Q. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e68 00000000 101a1fb0 00000000 101651e0 ..............Q. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e78 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1e30 ...............0 =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e88 00000000 101a9760 00000000 101a97c0 .......`........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1e98 00000000 101a9790 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ea8 00000000 101a1e40 00000000 101a9778 .......@.......x =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1eb8 00000000 101a97d8 00000000 101a97a8 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ec8 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1e58 ...............X =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ed8 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ee8 00000000 101a98b0 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ef8 00000000 101a1e68 00000000 00000000 .......h........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f08 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a98b0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f18 00000000 101a1f40 00000000 10165270 .......@......Rp =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f28 00000000 101a1f88 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f38 00000000 101a1f18 00000000 101a98e0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f48 00000000 101a98f8 00000000 101a9af0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f58 00000000 101a9af0 00000000 101a9ac0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f68 00000000 101a9a30 00000000 101a9940 .......0.......@ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f78 00000000 101a9928 00000000 101a9910 .......(........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f88 00000000 101a1f40 00000000 10165298 .......@......R. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1f98 00000000 101a1ff8 00000000 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1fa8 00000000 101a1f88 00000000 101a9a60 ...............` =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1fb8 00000000 101a9a78 00000000 101a9af0 .......x........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1fc8 00000000 101a9af0 00000000 101a9ac0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1fd8 00000000 101a9a30 00000000 101a9aa8 .......0........ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1fe8 00000000 101a9a90 00000000 101a9a48 ...............H =E2=94=82 + 0x101a1ff8 00000000 101a1fb0 00000000 101652c0 ..............R. =E2=94=82 + 0x101a2008 00000000 00000000 00000000 101a1ff8 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a2018 00000000 101a9ad8 00000000 101a9b20 ...............= =20 =E2=94=82 + 0x101a2028 00000000 101a9af0 00000000 101a9af0 ................ =E2=94=82 + 0x101a2038 00000000 101a9b38 00000000 101a9b08 .......8........ =E2=94=82 0x101a2048 00000000 10165a28 00000000 101aa888 ......Z(........ =E2=94=82 0x101a2058 00000000 00000000 04040404 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 0x101a2068 00000000 10165a38 00000000 101aa8a0 ......Z8........ =E2=94=82 0x101a2078 00000000 00000000 04040404 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 0x101a2088 00000000 10165a58 00000000 101aa8b8 ......ZX........ =E2=94=82 0x101a2098 00000000 00000000 04040404 00000000 ................ =E2=94=82 0x101a20a8 00000000 10165a70 00000000 101aa8d0 ......Zp........ =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- If I'm reading this correctly, one problem seems to be that our GCC toolchains are putting symbols at different locations. This issue (and maybe others) could be trickling down, causing other aspects of the binaries to differ (e.g., in length). Nothing really stands out, but when we discussed this on IRC, we thought perhaps factors like the following might contribute to the non-reproducibility: =2D Perhaps we are all running different Linux kernel versions? In some cases, the kernel version can unfortunately influence the build output, so this might be worth testing. =2D Perhaps the GCC Makefiles etc. are doing something non-deterministic? =2D Something else? Avenues of investigation: =2D If anything obvious stands out from the diffoscope output, please leave a comment. =2D Try building with different kernel versions on the same machine, to see if they differ. =2D If somebody else could please confirm that running the following command reports no difference on their own machine (i.e., exit code 0), that would be good to know, since it would help further solidify the theory that on a single machine, the build of gcc-static-5.5.0.drv is reproducible, even if it is not reproducible across machines: guix build --no-substitutes --check --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu \ -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-bootstrap) %gcc-static)' =2D Try building two different versions of gcc-7.5.0 (maybe by hand?), and then use them to build a simple reproduction case and compare results. If we're lucky, maybe this will help us understand the problem better. 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[73.97.103.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm1573113pfd.125.2020.06.03.02.48.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 03 Jun 2020 02:48:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> To: 41669 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#41669: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible References: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 02:48:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> (Chris Marusich's message of "Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:59:03 -0700") Message-ID: <87y2p4mqe2.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41669 Cc: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@HIDDEN>, Jack Hill <jackhill@HIDDEN>, =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o_Le_Bouter?= <lle-bout@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> writes: > The derivation that produced the differing output was: > > /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv > > On my x86_64-linux system, twice I tried running "guix build --check" on > this derivation, but each time it surprisingly reported no difference. This derivation corresponds to %gcc-bootstrap-tarball from (gnu packages make-bootstrap), which just creates a tarball of the output of %gcc-stripped. Therefore, it's not too surprising that it's reproducible. Similarly, %gcc-stripped just strips some store references from the output of %gcc-static. The %gcc-static package is more interesting: it's where we actually build the statically linked bootstrap GCC (which is then stripped and packed into a tarball as mentioned above), so I thought that it might be where the non-determinism is coming from. However, I haven't yet pinpointed the problem. If you examine the derivations and their inputs, you'll find that they depend upon each other in the following order: guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@ (gnu packages make-boot= strap) %gcc-bootstrap-tarball)' /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-boo= tstrap) %gcc-stripped)' /gnu/store/kcv3ja1rfr93hw6ly51878zjhdwpgv7z-gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages make-boo= tstrap) %gcc-static)' /gnu/store/m9hfwppla8lph0vxa15lfkp81s2bbjjs-gcc-static-5.5.0.drv In other words, gcc-static-5.5.0.drv is an input of gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv, which is an input of gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv. Above, I've included example guix commands you can use to obtain each derivation. Using "guix build =2D-check", I confirmed that all three of these derivations build reproducibly on my machine. I hoped to find more information by invoking "guix build --check" on every input of gcc-static-5.5.0.drv. When I tried that, what I found was that all of its inputs build reproducibly except the following two: /gnu/store/x32cnfkd50fnxs10xp1jdn24h7ai2gxr-guile-3.0.2.drv /gnu/store/g9fpkg2qa27mka1znqsvx8vxqyabsj2y-gcc-7.5.0.drv I haven't investigated guile-3.0.2.drv. However, gcc-7.5.0.drv felt more suspicious to me, and it is actually the derivation that builds gcc-final from (gnu packages commencement), which you can see via: guix build -d -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) gcc-final)' Using "guix gc", I deleted the outputs of gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv, gcc-stripped-5.5.0.drv, gcc-static-5.5.0.drv, and gcc-7.5.0.drv. I then tried building these four derivations again (without substitutes, the same as before). Before doing this, I stored the SHA-512 hashes of their output files, and after the build succeeded, I compared the hashes of the new files with the previous values. I found that these derivations' newly rebuilt outputs were identical to their original values, except for gcc-7.5.0.drv, which produced some different files. Most significantly, this means that gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv produced the exact same tarball for me as it did the first time I built it, even though some of its inputs are not themselves reproducible. At present, it seems possible that within the context of a single machine, gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv builds reproducibly, but on a different machine, it may (reproducibly) build a different output. I'm a bit paranoid about making mistakes, so I'll perform another full GC and then try yet again to build gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv in order to verify whether it truly produces the same output when all (or nearly all) of its inputs are rebuilt from scratch. Some people have also shared their differing copies of the binaries on the email list. It could be productive to compare the contents with diffoscope, although I suspect the diff might be too large to be useful. =2D-=20 Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEy/WXVcvn5+/vGD+x3UCaFdgiRp0FAl7XceUACgkQ3UCaFdgi Rp0EgRAA0OmlaDC8TFlxSXsGjlbPVhV5kO7mplWnYNAbROMWrFWoRU4okIISdCeV pklnsneNtg9UN+OagjGMNsgw6w/iaiftMduLS17AqWeUoaCi7HUTGVgwg6AZD2z3 nWFFgjPdYy8NO0uSA4wxoqGXHIXZsmy6m8HlNkQ5Wxv4ILrMLW1aAloAwLuicnD7 xszXKVfC38UyVwdjVyTbdVqUcl8QPY8jYdQtk+RtK6Yb1aWba6xyFW6FZhgNl4PW DcEIBD6lKewXYT8saDJkkD1dBhkGiHjMPWkDPKiDuPR7dfDhrm4QHxRZHifv5Fu3 wGoya2yxyCtaB2O/xH8YLiQiLbWjGE+pZdbGN3hIwf8ie2lilK97895hTIhMRasi 1q6XMpRW27X8cZG7nv/spMyo3Zu/PudOghzOk/h16W0Ey24hLv0IO4xAtUxCprnB 4gtU/hKxbKYS8mN4K9AmkgnCDlibfAuEqRAwAcDpA3oxobjZLTih/BBlulUn3pxN lf4/xIn9DCaZpi9pckjYnucByP0wv/JjA4aJGBpPM9rfau805E8XeHtBBX1djsL0 ekPaT9BkEYVxILT9eHkrIp3JO5P1H0dRqhtT6XUFShKwe9FC3BgxaJeW8v7DsLnv bsKJ/0nXMjrcjJBqR5FhuAy/ZZXi+ILivSHQ5QlG/D1uBg8kEPM= =kMiK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
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[73.97.103.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w206sm3078542pfc.28.2020.06.02.11.59.06 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:59:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@HIDDEN> To: bug-guix@HIDDEN Subject: Cross-compiled powerpc64-linux bootstrap-tarballs not reproducible Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:59:03 -0700 Message-ID: <874krtnvk8.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::435; envelope-from=cmmarusich@HIDDEN; helo=mail-pf1-x435.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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However, these attempts produced four different versions of gcc-stripped-5.5.0-powerpc64-linux-gnu.tar.xz. At least two of the attempts were performed on two different x86_64-linux systems. The derivation that produced the differing output was: /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv You can build this derivation in a variety of ways, for example: guix build --target=3Dpowerpc64-linux-gnu -e '(@ (gnu packages make-boots= trap) %gcc-bootstrap-tarball)' or just guix build /gnu/store/pygln3lr6qbxcps3kmn3w4bc0d0nlpd3-gcc-stripped-tarba= ll-5.5.0.drv On my x86_64-linux system, twice I tried running "guix build --check" on this derivation, but each time it surprisingly reported no difference. Out of paranoia, I tried deleting its output with "guix gc --delete", and then building it again. The new output was, indeed, identical to the old output. This makes me think that the non-reproducibility is coming from something outside the immediate build logic of the gcc-stripped-tarball-5.5.0.drv derivation itself. I will next try to rebuild everything from scratch again. I will also try to get copies of the differing outputs from the people involved in that email thread, in order to run diffoscope on them. =2D-=20 Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEy/WXVcvn5+/vGD+x3UCaFdgiRp0FAl7WoXcACgkQ3UCaFdgi Rp0twQ//VDfFrWpdAkX4XpGke8c4sT6/W2LbR7N+xl126nbXhcAKjH13SCjgX3vp /Yrik1IlnEhXwPpujU6GXLv7UbjZLBDERMOee0bFpreaq9TQMq2NJQkcoKE4kOSr +ockDEE71tv4ZEjW3hY8funw9uRGoZBcyPYHyIjd0bNYvRAa1x8nuhrXYE5+rRZ2 h/2k5tynQrkMpxUEVQr0XL0OWXhY5VPD9Wwgd3anY/l643RIg2eLTDF1kvnRCdOq OFN+88hWEx3QzPMZ852SSc99XkHRBaboFkrNIquxIU2lsOHiUSwOkT4/NrdOoeW7 +pXgJ2dcUNvI1JHER50NUjHBndqCke1bYUbCll0f9VE7hi1z/V/hut4t7a5uTUXp QP+aLeS9WDDDyFHwYPf6hotjNwCyOE1aBo0LlNpR+nIX4WSDYCzSKIFQFAva84l2 TDRte0rIKcZ/B3xRraGjgFwJBezme8RkOiORNzFpcRzf0y5hCSPvL3cLc8XmsbAl HT8pCdm0b3kSlBNQmUSV+XxnXvpIUDnxernYb7PEYhgWsopyHBgQtfxMqCj/IZtE OXeh/oumsuKZWxDcgbUI81liQPNlrFlXgfsWiUmtBmv56g/jFko+e+IgIIZroGWj iWHVBGz1EMaENBMXpga4g7XMRTXoXO3QB9xGQ34mHsZC007QPwQ= =DG+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
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