Received: (at 43381) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2020 13:18:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 18 09:18:22 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kJGHO-0000WI-HH for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:18:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36490) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kJGHK-0000Vo-3j for 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:18:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kJGHD-00011f-S3; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:18:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3532 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kJGHD-0001TJ-8l; Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:18:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:18:23 +0300 Message-Id: <83mu1n440w.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87o8m3i686.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:07:05 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#43381: 27.1.50; Maybe wrong cursor FG color in NS port References: <E9E4DDCB-5547-4FB4-94DC-D121CB8C35CA@HIDDEN> <87a6xtff19.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913234309.GH93185@HIDDEN> <87d02pdyp4.fsf@HIDDEN> <83363kbeci.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1r39qmb.fsf@HIDDEN> <83v9gf85hj.fsf@HIDDEN> <87a6xoqxkr.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wo0s5uen.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn6kphmw.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tuvw5tbi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn6jjqdz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sgbf48pr.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8m3i686.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43381 Cc: 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, alan@HIDDEN, dale@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Cc: alan@HIDDEN, 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, dale@HIDDEN > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:07:05 +0200 > > > I thought to define it only for the cursor face. And if that needs > > some special treatment on the C level, it shouldn't be hard to tweak > > that. > > Ah, right... but then that'd be used on all characters the cursor is > over, no matter what the background colour of the cursor is? No, only when the contrast with the other color is too low.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> The vast majority of faces don't have a distant-foreground, I think? >> And that's in relation to the region face, not the cursor? > > I thought to define it only for the cursor face. 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And if that needs > some special treatment on the C level, it shouldn't be hard to tweak > that. Ah, right... but then that'd be used on all characters the cursor is over, no matter what the background colour of the cursor is? Isn't that the same information loss you were worried about, only with a different colour? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I understand. The result will be that every character under cursor > will look the same regardless of its original face colors. Oh, I didn't think of that as an issue... I mean, the cursor blinks (by default), so... does anybody care? 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The result will be that every character under cursor > will look the same regardless of its original face colors. Oh, I didn't think of that as an issue... I mean, the cursor blinks (by default), so... does anybody care? > Which is both losing information and different from the face-merging > we do everywhere else. > > The original problem, AFAIU, was not that we behave as we do, but that > the result is almost illegible in some situations. Yup. > The solution to that doesn't have to be what you propose, it can be > something else, which doesn't ignore our usual face-merging. We just > need to use a mechanism we have for this purpose: the > distant-foreground color of a face. The vast majority of faces don't have a distant-foreground, I think? And that's in relation to the region face, not the cursor? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > What if that character has a non-default foreground color? If we > disregard it, all the characters will look the same when under the > cursor, regardless of their original face. 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If we > disregard it, all the characters will look the same when under the > cursor, regardless of their original face. Hm... I don't quite follow. The character under point will have the cursor colour as the background colour, and it doesn't matter what the foreground colour of that character is: Today the foreground colour (when the cursor is over the character) is the character's background colour, but the proposal is to change that to use the default face's background colour instead. (Which is pretty much guaranteed to be different that the cursor's colour.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Or should we fix the code? As the example demonstrates, this makes some >> of the inverse-blinked text difficult to read. > > Any specific suggestions for a fix? 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As the example demonstrates, this makes some >> of the inverse-blinked text difficult to read. > > Any specific suggestions for a fix? That we do what the documentation suggests -- use the frame background (i.e., the default face background) as the face foreground of the character under point. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> > Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours as >> > well... >> > >> > xterm.c:1518 >> > xgcv.background = s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel; >> > xgcv.foreground = s->face [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43381 Cc: 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, alan@HIDDEN, dale@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> > Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours as >> > well... >> > >> > xterm.c:1518 >> > xgcv.background = s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel; >> > xgcv.foreground = s->face->background; >> > ^ ^ >> >> Yeah, it looks like it's been like that since at least the 90s. So... >> the documentation is just wrong? > > Yes, the documentation is inaccurate: it describes what happens when > the text at point uses the default face. When the face is not the > default, we merge that face into the cursor face, and that is what you > see. > > We should fix the documentation. Or should we fix the code? As the example demonstrates, this makes some of the inverse-blinked text difficult to read. Presumably the colour distance between the cursor and the default face's background is more legible? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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[136.30.160.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm6427289iot.51.2020.09.14.15.10.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#43381: 27.1.50; Maybe wrong cursor FG color in NS port From: Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83363kbeci.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:10:30 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84D258F0-553A-4179-BAA0-A832FEE1B2D0@HIDDEN> References: <E9E4DDCB-5547-4FB4-94DC-D121CB8C35CA@HIDDEN> <87a6xtff19.fsf@HIDDEN> <20200913234309.GH93185@HIDDEN> <87d02pdyp4.fsf@HIDDEN> <83363kbeci.fsf@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43381 Cc: 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, alan@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sep 14, 2020, at 09:52, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 01:49:43 +0200 >> Cc: 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN> >>=20 >> Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: >>=20 >>> Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours = as >>> well... >>>=20 >>> xterm.c:1518 >>> xgcv.background =3D s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel; >>> xgcv.foreground =3D s->face->background; >>> ^ ^ >>=20 >> Yeah, it looks like it's been like that since at least the 90s. = So... >> the documentation is just wrong? >=20 > Yes, the documentation is inaccurate: it describes what happens when > the text at point uses the default face. When the face is not the > default, we merge that face into the cursor face, and that is what you > see. >=20 > We should fix the documentation. Understood. Would it be appropriate for me to open a separate bug for = the problem of the text under the box cursor being nearly unreadable, as = in my example? Maybe allowing the cursor face's :foreground to be used = in preference to the background of the face at point? Dale=
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Content preview: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours as > well... > > xterm.c:1518 > xgcv.background = s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel; > xgcv.foreground = s->face->background; > ^ [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43381 Cc: 43381 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours as > well... > > xterm.c:1518 > xgcv.background = s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel; > xgcv.foreground = s->face->background; > ^ ^ Yeah, it looks like it's been like that since at least the 90s. So... the documentation is just wrong? I think it does sound like it would make sense to use the background colour here for the face colour, though, since that's guaranteed to stand out against the cursor colour, you'd think. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 01:11:30AM +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > The Emacs manual says[1], "the text shown under the cursor is drawn using
> > the frame’s background color." However, on the NS port, the foreground
> > for text under the cursor seems to be taken from the face at point
> > rather than the frame's background color.
> >
> > [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Cursor-Display.html
> >
> > To illustrate this, start emacs -Q and eval:
> >
> > (progn
> > (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "test"))
> > (insert (propertize "testing"
> > 'face '((:background "blue" :foreground "white"))))
> > (goto-char 1))
>
> It's not just the NS port, apparently -- I get the same in Debian.
Now you mention it, I can see that the X ports use the face colours as
well...
xterm.c:1518
xgcv.background = s->f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel;
xgcv.foreground = s->face->background;
^ ^
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Subject: Re: bug#43381: 27.1.50; Maybe wrong cursor FG color in NS port
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 03:02:02PM -0500, Dale Sedivec wrote:
> The Emacs manual says[1], "the text shown under the cursor is drawn using
> the frame’s background color." However, on the NS port, the foreground
> for text under the cursor seems to be taken from the face at point
> rather than the frame's background color.
>
> [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Cursor-Display.html
>
> To illustrate this, start emacs -Q and eval:
>
> (progn
> (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "test"))
> (insert (propertize "testing"
> 'face '((:background "blue" :foreground "white"))))
> (goto-char 1))
>
> You should be in a new buffer with some white-on-blue text. Put point
> over any of that text and you should see the text under the default box
> cursor becomes (a hard-to-read) blue-on-black, taking the background
> color at point, rather than white-on-black, which it should be if it
> took the frame's background color.
The attached appears to fix it for me, however I'm not sure it's the
right fix. The X ports appear to have a much neater system for setting
the colours which may be worth emulating in the NS port.
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From 4c6509108bc2d3d9c37f88b1d915e8d04ce9a0c6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:19:05 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix NS cursor colors (bug#43381)
* src/macfont.m (macfont_draw): Select the correct color when drawing
a cursor.
* src/nsterm.m (ns_draw_glyph_string): Don't fiddle with the face.
---
src/macfont.m | 10 +++++++++-
src/nsterm.m | 14 --------------
2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/macfont.m b/src/macfont.m
index 904814647f..a73c1f01fe 100644
--- a/src/macfont.m
+++ b/src/macfont.m
@@ -2923,7 +2923,15 @@ So we use CTFontDescriptorCreateMatchingFontDescriptor (no
CGAffineTransform atfm;
CGContextScaleCTM (context, 1, -1);
- CG_SET_FILL_COLOR_WITH_FACE_FOREGROUND (context, face, s->f);
+
+ if (s->hl == DRAW_CURSOR && s->w->phys_cursor_type == FILLED_BOX_CURSOR)
+ {
+ struct face *frame_face = FRAME_DEFAULT_FACE (s->f);
+ CG_SET_FILL_COLOR_WITH_FACE_BACKGROUND (context, frame_face, s->f);
+ }
+ else
+ CG_SET_FILL_COLOR_WITH_FACE_FOREGROUND (context, face, s->f);
+
if (macfont_info->synthetic_italic_p)
atfm = synthetic_italic_atfm;
else
diff --git a/src/nsterm.m b/src/nsterm.m
index 26059ab67c..7e3fb4a0cb 100644
--- a/src/nsterm.m
+++ b/src/nsterm.m
@@ -4397,13 +4397,6 @@ overwriting cursor (usually when cursor on a tab) */
ns_maybe_dumpglyphs_background
(s, s->first_glyph->type == COMPOSITE_GLYPH);
- if (s->hl == DRAW_CURSOR && s->w->phys_cursor_type == FILLED_BOX_CURSOR)
- {
- unsigned long tmp = NS_FACE_BACKGROUND (s->face);
- NS_FACE_BACKGROUND (s->face) = NS_FACE_FOREGROUND (s->face);
- NS_FACE_FOREGROUND (s->face) = tmp;
- }
-
{
BOOL isComposite = s->first_glyph->type == COMPOSITE_GLYPH;
@@ -4424,13 +4417,6 @@ overwriting cursor (usually when cursor on a tab) */
ns_draw_text_decoration (s, s->face, col, s->width, s->x);
}
- if (s->hl == DRAW_CURSOR && s->w->phys_cursor_type == FILLED_BOX_CURSOR)
- {
- unsigned long tmp = NS_FACE_BACKGROUND (s->face);
- NS_FACE_BACKGROUND (s->face) = NS_FACE_FOREGROUND (s->face);
- NS_FACE_FOREGROUND (s->face) = tmp;
- }
-
ns_unfocus (s->f);
break;
--
2.26.1
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Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN> writes:
> The Emacs manual says[1], "the text shown under the cursor is drawn using
> the frame=E2=80=99s background color." However, on the NS port, the fore=
ground
> for text under the cursor seems to be taken from the face at point
> rather than the frame's background color.
>
> [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Cursor-Dis=
play.html
>
> To illustrate this, start emacs -Q and eval:
>
> (progn
> (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "test"))
> (insert (propertize "testing"
> 'face '((:background "blue" :foreground "white"=
))))
> (goto-char 1))
It's not just the NS port, apparently -- I get the same in Debian.
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The Emacs manual says[1], "the text shown under the cursor is drawn =
using
the frame=E2=80=99s background color." However, on the NS port, the =
foreground
for text under the cursor seems to be taken from the face at point
rather than the frame's background color.
[1]: =
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Cursor-Display.h=
tml
To illustrate this, start emacs -Q and eval:
(progn
(switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "test"))
(insert (propertize "testing"
'face '((:background "blue" :foreground =
"white"))))
(goto-char 1))
You should be in a new buffer with some white-on-blue text. Put point
over any of that text and you should see the text under the default box
cursor becomes (a hard-to-read) blue-on-black, taking the background
color at point, rather than white-on-black, which it should be if it
took the frame's background color.
This became obvious to me when using the modus-vivendi theme in
combination with auto-highlight-symbol[2]. modus-vivendi uses a black
frame background and a white cursor. auto-highlight-symbol gives the
symbol at point an orange background, so when it's highlighting the
symbol under the cursor, I end up with modus-vivendi's white cursor
background and an orange foreground. This orange-on-white is kind of
unreadable. If, instead, the cursor took the frame's background as its
foreground, I would have a more readable white cursor containing black
text (black-on-white).
[2]: https://github.com/gennad/auto-highlight-symbol
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Dale Sedivec <dale@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Full text available.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#43381; Package emacs.
Full text available.
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Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham,
1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
1994-97 Ian Jackson.