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Today let's talk about
read-file-name-completion-ignore-case .
(info "(emacs) Completion Options")
Well just like for search, if we type "m" we probably are looking for
both "M" and "m", but if we go through all the trouble of holding down
the SHIFT button to type "M" then we certainly are only looking for "M"
and would be out of our mind to also be looking for "m". (Or "into pain,
a pain freak.") Therefore read-file-name-completion-ignore-case needs
more options than just t and nil.
E.g., I have Makefile and murmurfile. Well if I set
read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to nil and type M TAB then of course I
am only wanting to complete Makefile.
P.S., C-h v read-file-name-completion-ignore-case doesn't say what its
original value was. Odd. Yes even though "it might differ on different
operating systems."
emacs-version "27.1"
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> From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
> <jidanni@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:32:04 +0800
>
> Today let's talk about
> read-file-name-completion-ignore-case .
> (info "(emacs) Completion Options")
>
> Well just like for search, if we type "m" we probably are looking for
> both "M" and "m", but if we go through all the trouble of holding down
> the SHIFT button to type "M" then we certainly are only looking for "M"
> and would be out of our mind to also be looking for "m". (Or "into pain,
> a pain freak.") Therefore read-file-name-completion-ignore-case needs
> more options than just t and nil.
>
> E.g., I have Makefile and murmurfile. Well if I set
> read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to nil and type M TAB then of course I
> am only wanting to complete Makefile.
Did you actually see what happens when you set this variable non-nil
and try this? If not, please do; if you did, and the result was not
what you expected, please show the details: what you types, which
files are there on disk, and what completion candidates were
suggested.
Because AFAIK Emacs already does what you want it to do in these
cases, without needing any additional values for this option.
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=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes:
> E.g., I have Makefile and murmurfile. Well if I set
> read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to nil and type M TAB then of cours=
e I
> am only wanting to complete Makefile.
Did you mean "if I set read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to t" here?
--=20
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retitle 46781 read-buffer-completion-ignore-case: who would still be look=
ing for m when they typed M?
thanks
Oops, for the entire bug I meant to talk about
buffer names, not file names! Sorry.
read-buffer-completion-ignore-case is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C so=
urce code=E2=80=99.
Its value is t
Original value was nil
So how did young Dan, usually sharp in the wits, ever make such a
blunder?
Well, one day he was innocently looking up in the manual
(Info-index "read-buffer-completion-ignore-case")
when the forces of evil linked it to the same place that
(Info-index "read-file-name-completion-ignore-case")
goes, instead of seven lines below it!!
Ever trustful, young Dan didn't notice the Toyota XLE he had intended to
discuss was now switched for a Toyota XLD, so he ended up discussing
that instead.
>>>>> "LI" =3D=3D Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
LI> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes=
:
>> E.g., I have Makefile and murmurfile. Well if I set
>> read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to nil and type M TAB then of co=
urse I
>> am only wanting to complete Makefile.
LI> Did you mean "if I set read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to t" he=
re?
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retitle 46781 read-buffer-completion-ignore-case: who would still be look=
ing for m when they typed M?
thanks
Oops, for the entire bug I meant to talk about
buffer names, not file names! Sorry.
read-buffer-completion-ignore-case is a variable defined in =E2=80=98C so=
urce code=E2=80=99.
Its value is t
Original value was nil
So how did young Dan, usually sharp in the wits, ever make such a
blunder?
Well, one day he was innocently looking up in the manual
(Info-index "read-buffer-completion-ignore-case")
when the forces of evil linked it to the same place that
(Info-index "read-file-name-completion-ignore-case")
goes, instead of seven lines below it!!
Ever trustful, young Dan didn't notice the Toyota XLE he had intended to
discuss was now switched for a Toyota XLD, so he ended up discussing
that instead.
>>>>> "LI" =3D=3D Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
LI> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes=
:
>> E.g., I have Makefile and murmurfile. Well if I set
>> read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to nil and type M TAB then of co=
urse I
>> am only wanting to complete Makefile.
LI> Did you mean "if I set read-file-name-completion-ignore-case to t" he=
re?
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> retitle 46781 read-buffer-completion-ignore-case: who would still be looking for m when they typed M?
> thanks
> Oops, for the entire bug I meant to talk about
> buffer names, not file names! Sorry.
>
> read-buffer-completion-ignore-case is a variable defined in ‘C source code’.
> Its value is t
> Original value was nil
>
> So how did young Dan, usually sharp in the wits, ever make such a
> blunder?
>
> Well, one day he was innocently looking up in the manual
> (Info-index "read-buffer-completion-ignore-case")
> when the forces of evil linked it to the same place that
> (Info-index "read-file-name-completion-ignore-case")
> goes, instead of seven lines below it!!
> Ever trustful, young Dan didn't notice the Toyota XLE he had intended to
> discuss was now switched for a Toyota XLD, so he ended up discussing
> that instead.
Could you please describe the actual problem you see with
read-buffer-completion-ignore-case? What did you type, which relevant
buffers existed in the session, what happened, what did you expect to
happen? I see no relevant information about the issue above.
Or should we close this bug report because there is no problem?
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$ emacs -nw -Q --eval '(setq read-buffer-completion-ignore-case t)' Makefile murmurfile BLA
C-x b ;; switch-to-buffer
M ;; self-insert-command
TAB ;; minibuffer-complete
I am saying that if I typed "m", then offer me both choices.
But I have gone through all the trouble of holding down SHIFT, that
means I am serious about only matching uppercase M.
"Then don't tamper with read-buffer-completion-ignore-case in the first
place."
But then I don't get the two choices for little "m". Too much price to pay.
So maybe read-buffer-completion-ignore-case should allow a third value,
not just nil and t.
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=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes:
> retitle 46781 read-buffer-completion-ignore-case: who would still be
> looking for m when they typed M?
> thanks
> Oops, for the entire bug I meant to talk about
> buffer names, not file names! Sorry.
Thanks for the clarification. :-)
But could you now possibly restate what problem you're actually seeing,
with a test case (starting from "emacs -Q") so that we can follow along?
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=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes:
> $ emacs -nw -Q --eval '(setq read-buffer-completion-ignore-case t)' Makef=
ile murmurfile BLA
> C-x b ;; switch-to-buffer
> M ;; self-insert-command
> TAB ;; minibuffer-complete
>
> I am saying that if I typed "m", then offer me both choices.
>
> But I have gone through all the trouble of holding down SHIFT, that
> means I am serious about only matching uppercase M.
Thanks for the recipe for reproduction.
Yes, I also see this behaviour, and it does indeed behave as documented
(i.e., case is ignored).
But as you say, that's perhaps not optimal behaviour -- in other cases
like this in Emacs (like isearch), Emacs stops ignoring case if the user
enters some upper case characters, and that would make sense here too?
Anybody have opinions here?
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