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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#46905; Package guix.
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bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#46905; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 46905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 14:26:54 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 09:26:54 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJGqU-00035f-Em for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:26:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45314) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lJGqT-00035U-AD for 46905 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:26:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48477) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lJGqO-000817-4S; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:26:48 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=41086 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lJGqN-0003P9-JE; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:26:47 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46905: Add a note about ext4's dir_index to the manual References: <87v9a89c8v.fsf@nckx> <87blbymvd5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87v9a6zgs1.fsf@nckx> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 18 =?utf-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 15:26:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v9a6zgs1.fsf@nckx> (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2021 23:38:06 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1kpbu1l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46905 Cc: 46905 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN> skribis: > I should note that later in the IRC convo I corrected my sloppy =E2=80=98= full=E2=80=99 > to =E2=80=98hash collision=E2=80=99. Unfortunately it just returns an al= ready > overloaded -ENOSPC to user space. OK, but when do we get ENOSPC, then? > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A [...] >> I don=E2=80=99t think we can claim there=E2=80=99s a design flaw. WDYT? > > Fine; implementation flaw, then? Problem is, it's not like there are > other implementations than the one we're stuck with, so it matters > little what we call it. My point is that we shouldn=E2=80=99t suggest that ext4 + dir_index is flaw= ed or unsuitable for Guix use, because we have strong evidence suggesting otherwise. :-) Now, I agree that if there are bugs or limitations hit in some situations, we should document (or fix) them. WDYT? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#46905; Package guix.
Full text available.Received: (at 46905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2021 22:38:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 04 17:38:10 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60570 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lHwbi-0001nr-Ds for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:38:10 -0500 Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:45176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1lHwbg-0001ni-EP for 46905 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2021 17:38:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018; bh=pe7pYZRsIBUAqSLiQXo7Hm3lURihgzIduf+kEojE2F4=; h=date:in-reply-to: references:subject:cc:to:from; b=N4BpcqKvm8D7XrfSYgLK1ld0KL72aUmGcQgwe R37NHAERUCfroEiQauVEWXO0URP1eyLf3Aid8n8820CEJjKLt430YhZTtm27JCUs5RjjpQ O3Ts6457E7Dqv9OTixjlZK342xq1IBzeJ7P5rsfO9nvhu2tglWm4bF1uPeWMh/pTXLqdLf IYstiGVUDdzDeOLYr6zYffhJhBpqf2cXx4Ae/QHrZSCiD8AFbxKVJadjzwZt7IN6ycCtYR z2mgvx43VyCPipTp+MJEOO/pjcxxoMK/u3yH7s712+sZCEPa+n6qFGrGLQ5kf4Jd9/RpPN /27rV5c2JmqY2XISVRwIUIekQ== Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f3034a44 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 4 Mar 2021 22:39:03 +0000 (UTC) BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default; From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN> To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46905: Add a note about ext4's dir_index to the manual References: <87v9a89c8v.fsf@nckx> <87blbymvd5.fsf@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87blbymvd5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 23:38:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87v9a6zgs1.fsf@nckx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46905 Cc: 46905 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ludo'! I should note that later in the IRC convo I corrected my sloppy=20 =E2=80=98full=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98hash collision=E2=80=99. Unfortunately = it just returns an=20 already overloaded -ENOSPC to user space. Ludovic Court=C3=A8s =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > IIRC store accesses were much slower before [dir_index] was a=20 > thing Yes, it's a (t)horny dilemma :-/ > I don=E2=80=99t think we can claim there=E2=80=99s a design flaw. WDYT? Fine; implementation flaw, then? Problem is, it's not like there=20 are other implementations than the one we're stuck with, so it=20 matters little what we call it. Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYEFhTg0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15qGwA/iNFJOZBQAujxVuhR0CnKcealtH4U6gNyhEAabRG tDnbAP9FWMZcR6D5lknP8r+nNbvFE5PyRMBrwdivH48vS18SCQ== =++CS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#46905; Package guix.
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