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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer.
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Content preview: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > Actually,
I did, but I took some side roads in the meantime, and it's > unlikely that
I will have enough time to finish this before you, > you're too fast for
me 😉 So please go ahead.
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Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes:
> Actually, I did, but I took some side roads in the meantime, and it's
> unlikely that I will have enough time to finish this before you,
> you're too fast for me =F0=9F=98=89 So please go ahead.
OK, I'll probably have a go at this (but it may not happen soonish for
me either). I'll send a mail before starting so that we don't happen to
both implement this at the same time.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2022 21:56:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 28 17:56:17 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59532 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oHBUP-0003OP-JC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:56:17 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:56802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1oHBUN-0003OF-OR for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:56:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1659045374; bh=Bt2PI/OU2rVJvy20Qp1JPNr+mEqDXQxQ4isILERldkY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=cOP6DBcNCenft+82iUiAw2+ZP0ov0o7tP+Bm1tZwVcOzgyu6vL55oe4uB/jT7D+HL 4Y360v3eKMX1ccP9OVX1ZPDjL6vadEpZ7dlBE+fa+YZl3D/Y2Cqmclo4hVjoELwi/t L7t/FFLSM4FUgEpx4RJsXe7/fbz0Lw0iCWkfaq2+twChUT6DuImXJuMirHZTfWTc/F 5Z0F2LbUbHJv7yfQsb9FT3sz3AM2TRu4t0Pgp6ei75J12oiv14Qzw53bI2V/u9Y9ZO R7i5UPuy9IUfMPbfWYKDzfj+Mz6D3uNho+QC+D8pDjuNWp/qPW+lNblLxs9kMg1KPZ YvV3YTuNNdFiQ== Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 21:56:14 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <87tu71wmm3.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <136c4fe0fcd2bc9ebb3a@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9ae3f1ccc5f7@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a0ea79c81de@HIDDEN> <87v998n5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> <6820a941ae3e4668959e@HIDDEN> <875z17mohu.fsf@HIDDEN> <6820a941ae99cf1eb9b0@HIDDEN> <8735foq528.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tu71wmm3.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mHyfn2NL8g" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --mHyfn2NL8g Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>> So I think whois.el should be rewritten to do the two step query (and= =20 >>>> be asynchronous, which should be pretty trivial). >>> >>> Okay, I'll do that. >> >> Gregory, did you get any further here? > > If you didn't get any further here, I can take a whack at implementing=20 > this. > Actually, I did, but I took some side roads in the meantime, and it's=20 unlikely that I will have enough time to finish this before you, you're=20 too fast for me =F0=9F=98=89 So please go ahead. --mHyfn2NL8g--
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Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> I don't think there's an expectation of privacy here -- the user knows that
>> doing a whois query will result in server(s) being queried.
>>
>
> Okay.
>
>>
>> So I think whois.el should be rewritten to do the two step query (and be
>> asynchronous, which should be pretty trivial).
>>
>
> Okay, I'll do that.
I was completely unaware of this bug report, but I did some related work
here:
commit 5d456136169468e78c877ead2a3e279d9ebc7e4c
Author: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed Apr 7 13:35:59 2021 +0200
Update whois-server-tld
* lisp/net/net-utils.el (whois-server-tld): Update and add some
missing entries.
FWIW, I added a comment that argues in favour of the solution chosen
here. Even better that you have here checked it with IANA. Thanks for
working on this!
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Content preview: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: >> We accept that users will query whois.iana.org port 43 for ad-hoc, >> infrequent, and low volume queries (e.g. queries resulting from a >> user-driven web form, upon receipt of an email, and given [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: >> We accept that users will query whois.iana.org port 43 for ad-hoc, >> infrequent, and low volume queries (e.g. queries resulting from a >> user-driven web form, upon receipt of an email, and given a small >> list of domains). >> >> It reads like your client will be primarily user-driven and so we're >> fine with your approach. Note, the Mac OSX whois client first >> queries whois.iana.org and follows the referral, so there is >> precedent. > > So from a technical point of view, the solution is okay. What remains > is the potential privacy problem, but I think it's possible to avoid > it without using a cache. I don't think there's an expectation of privacy here -- the user knows that doing a whois query will result in server(s) being queried. So I think whois.el should be rewritten to do the two step query (and be asynchronous, which should be pretty trivial). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2021 07:53:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 31 03:53:43 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53421 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lRVfb-0000ij-AV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 03:53:43 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:48136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lRVfX-0000iZ-Vo for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 03:53:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617177218; bh=xzj6B/fMUOdakqTbMO7Yv8Q1vEdinU1W4fsr9M5YdnU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=ixlUeGkuk7ktRYmVOVOLzZ1hpQ9p0fHCUwAEVz0eIwu3SQt5fmkRVUSoc9RkFkyyg xymgDDNvgJFJ6t6EsAK18Z3KhLaJV0i8DavqC1bz3UWD9yE07mOZ8AtH+7F4PEsfQw MU/zAtwM3h6+0VJcodhl9PGJmo4x81+sC3FOENDRadFtxEK/KhiBNRml0epJPPcTIq M26HPW2nJaVeYUGZoIL6/jrLYl1s0aNbMKcPLi/1kfmaadKw7Q08a/qffixaHNN2z+ mkpVyy9I5JdMhx6KkDTCsghjDVz8Z0PDVpiMSpErKVMxBHZB3p2dWKlrTz57kgOhnD DzI4ZgHNbRSEA== Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:53:38 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <87v998n5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <6820a941ae3e4668959e@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9ae3f1ccc5f7@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a0ea79c81de@HIDDEN> <87v998n5cu.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> I've just sent a mail to IANA to clarify that point. > > Great; thanks. > I got the answer, from which I quote the relevant parts: > > We accept that users will query whois.iana.org port 43 for ad-hoc, > infrequent, and low volume queries (e.g. queries resulting from a > user-driven web form, upon receipt of an email, and given a small list > of domains). > > It reads like your client will be primarily user-driven and so we're > fine with your approach. Note, the Mac OSX whois client first queries > whois.iana.org and follows the referral, so there is precedent. > So from a technical point of view, the solution is okay. What remains is the potential privacy problem, but I think it's possible to avoid it without using a cache.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > I've just sent a mail to IANA to clarify that point. Great; thanks. 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Great; thanks. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 8:12 PM Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > >>>> Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem. > >>> > >>> I'd wait with caching until we see a performance problem. It isn't > >>> like people are expected to invoke this command many times in a row. > >> > >> I think you misunderstood what I meant. The idea would be to cache the > >> replies from the whois.iana.org server, not those of the final whois > >> server. IOW, the idea would be to dynamically build a local database > >> instead of relying on a hard-coded list. > > > > I understand that, and I'm still questioning the need for such a cache. > > > > If you have a cache, you need to manage it: add items that aren't there, > > delete items no longer pertinent, etc. Emacs sessions can run for many > > moons, so the cache will have to be dynamically adjusted. > > > > Yes, I know this. > > > > > By contrast, requesting the list each time a query is invoked is much > > easier, so if performance is reasonable, why bother with a cache and > > risk subtle issues? > > > > It's not a performance issue, it's a privacy issue. Emacs users might not > want to communicate all their queries to two servers when communicating > them to a single server is possible. > > It might also (but that's not yet clear) be an abuse issue, as Lars > pointed out. It's not clear whether the whois.iana.org server is intended > to be repeatedly queried by whois clients. AFAICS, there should be the following considerations: 1. The whois.iana.org should not be queried by each of the clients on the world repeated for each query which may overload the server. 2. Every whois query should be sent directly to a server near the client's geographic location. Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 12:19:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 08:19:51 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48041 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQqs2-00058v-Pu for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:19:51 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:46012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQqs1-00058n-M5 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:19:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617020388; bh=eq12+8oKELL6ZLH6OI8IQ/pOw3r/PDIZyqVrGJ9YnHA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=umEvsZ1zjhLMeYzMCEIUAgmEXizv7TZPqtg3SRdWrQ/f7b5/zEeZMf+e+B95N4Pup i/0KtwYt15jz+qkyWzJehCm80bNo72jHExWO/nn8QTcy0ZxiTPg0FjHhivTdqJF0sL DmISWtFbSRcacNRvUOzpnu72/K2sgh4nwBtB3+RXPvqkTweIBvVzHFikYxvZhCDNE8 DjDpoWlJrgJ3WkGLFJv7+hCxXBT20Jx5RYdyuvkx/KmREXYK1eDa3baPNCSylQrzVt vnRV/fn3r1pRrJHI2680W016qplOx4Li0Dohs4La34gPxLVqjUUDArpfNRU1+F8n+B tNou7Il3nxqHg== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:19:47 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <a83bd81e9ae3f1ccc5f7@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a83bd81e9a0ea79c81de@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9ae3f1ccc5f7@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two >>> requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. >> >> That's fine. The only issue here is whether whois.iana.org is designed >> for this kind of use -- if not, it might be abusive of Emacs to do >> this, and we should indeed keep the server list updated in Emacs. > > As far as I can see, whois.iana.org is indeed designed for this kind of > use, and the GNU/Linux whois command even has an option to do this (-I). > But I'm not 100% sure. Do you think it's better if I first check this > with IANA? > I've just sent a mail to IANA to clarify that point.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#47431; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 12:12:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 08:12:31 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48029 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQqkx-0004x0-BX for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:12:31 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQqkv-0004wr-80 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:12:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617019947; bh=jAueWPUXaXMUBEwNY2t2K2Dt2hgDp+qeyRmsTNWWzxU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=emJa2sHNkHk/yAeYawuV4CsURjLCH7lXhkujUxo8+pGcgadnLOyo+EpyIKH0hwjTS Vf+85QW+5jPc8tlvFGDiOMQAa4dwQtNlVVh5nCiC3T20X+EhERJ1+lVjl4SqOkYh9b +3mSFVgwsx6+0cHRH0mPfNNa/Dv3yRfB+FCIujRsnGtJlnTaMi3a+J93qcgukgFSD0 QH5eTJNExG1XmZXt/BW0XYXzRIY/G/sISb7rWXLynZDVHdloo7ciyorlW2s+iCI0/9 qW2u2oMVuZ7cWrzAHeYgp44B96eoiN6GX+YbEi2FEUS00eo8KOgZX10eyeLsPHHerf 0SHwyKIuZ99Qg== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:12:27 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <831rbymal3.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a83bd81e9adbc578797f@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> <83a6qmmk11.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a17754dcad2@HIDDEN> <831rbymal3.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>> Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem. >>> >>> I'd wait with caching until we see a performance problem. It isn't >>> like people are expected to invoke this command many times in a row. >> >> I think you misunderstood what I meant. The idea would be to cache the >> replies from the whois.iana.org server, not those of the final whois >> server. IOW, the idea would be to dynamically build a local database >> instead of relying on a hard-coded list. > > I understand that, and I'm still questioning the need for such a cache. > > If you have a cache, you need to manage it: add items that aren't there, > delete items no longer pertinent, etc. Emacs sessions can run for many > moons, so the cache will have to be dynamically adjusted. > Yes, I know this. > > By contrast, requesting the list each time a query is invoked is much > easier, so if performance is reasonable, why bother with a cache and > risk subtle issues? > It's not a performance issue, it's a privacy issue. Emacs users might not want to communicate all their queries to two servers when communicating them to a single server is possible. It might also (but that's not yet clear) be an abuse issue, as Lars pointed out. It's not clear whether the whois.iana.org server is intended to be repeatedly queried by whois clients.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 12:02:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 08:02:51 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48016 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQqba-0004iU-M3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:02:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQqbX-0004iF-E2 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:02:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQqbR-0005lD-L1; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:02:41 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2531 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQqbO-0001km-Ol; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:02:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:02:48 +0300 Message-Id: <831rbymal3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <a83bd81e9a17754dcad2@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:31:59 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> <83a6qmmk11.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a17754dcad2@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:31:59 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN > > >> Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem. > > > > I'd wait with caching until we see a performance problem. It isn't like > > people are expected to invoke this command many times in a row. > > > > I think you misunderstood what I meant. The idea would be to cache the > replies from the whois.iana.org server, not those of the final whois > server. IOW, the idea would be to dynamically build a local database > instead of relying on a hard-coded list. I understand that, and I'm still questioning the need for such a cache. If you have a cache, you need to manage it: add items that aren't there, delete items no longer pertinent, etc. Emacs sessions can run for many moons, so the cache will have to be dynamically adjusted. By contrast, requesting the list each time a query is invoked is much easier, so if performance is reasonable, why bother with a cache and risk subtle issues?
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 11:32:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 07:32:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQq7n-0003f3-Vs for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:32:04 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45940) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQq7l-0003c7-FI for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:32:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617017520; bh=sS/JnxnbxsGggABR6ub0iCSPmsXkpOziNjqJIn+NTTI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=dOnck+gf2vMevnqc6hEUBSdk7gwTbUJeZIdpXIfuM8+PZw3PHAta0mDWUTUhfmO0c iC7T5jxsOL425IDZ+1aF+878bLwIjBnP5P8acQwr8omkIWDNJRKidSYoDaZWGK2o3m SmH3dv7iuWXmgTt4oJN35Zf7a2HXqNO1fvOBvhgBEjrLJUh65Tfml0pAna1ZivSm7p lsbU7/x6zRPffRLc7DmP/BBf+8ZLQugTjOj8+eAq4vJcWBae7GdV7OhYgBkk0cR4tx z32mkcJmSbHbWYyI/mj5rlbLrGjqotPteJ8dpQAaM7BmK9m5uw2i7eIUOlnFMQR7ON CUQHEeZ45FBLQ== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:31:59 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <83a6qmmk11.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a83bd81e9a17754dcad2@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> <83a6qmmk11.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>> IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two >>>> requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. >>> >>> I don't see any problems with that, do you? >> >> In principle, I don't see any problems. But I seem to recall that RMS >> dislikes solutions that make unnecessary network connections, or IOW >> that avoidable network connections should be avoided. >> >> If you agree on the general design, I'd be happy to implement it. > > I don't see a problem, no. We frequently make network connections when > necessary. > >> Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem. > > I'd wait with caching until we see a performance problem. It isn't like > people are expected to invoke this command many times in a row. > I think you misunderstood what I meant. The idea would be to cache the replies from the whois.iana.org server, not those of the final whois server. IOW, the idea would be to dynamically build a local database instead of relying on a hard-coded list.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 11:20:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 07:20:13 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQpwL-0001ad-A5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:20:13 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQpwJ-0001aS-0h for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:20:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617016809; bh=6wjW42+uEcaKTOigR2tLS7RDZlvulF5Ns0VZR6ZpPxE=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=P6gTIY8NNWhBZIc3EbACIvVKDJ3NAzWCMW4ALDd6hJQ3IgyRjprvQ8Cff8/pMys14 kresjAgVMdORKYg0Q+EaVn1q1VrQS8MLmxuABMHzs1yiJFGCAOSQoZUFcJ4rpwmzXQ vlAUCzRcGrn1rsrbtig+HSACa8HCFm00jM2tKaNF4EiUOQPNZ7jo8cyQCSxGkMea16 GU66maZjXC/INJF3FmcbhpJPZ8wmlKTBiq8xe90C+3BZQx6xBihR0PCOZuVo27NJJw oA7tGaoo6j5wNERV2kC7ubRjsqqemjFi2T3YTgaj6erB5U0Gdt845KbRSu4nJ1xUGi X/caGce9gQfIA== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:20:09 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a83bd81e9ae3f1ccc5f7@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two >> requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. > > That's fine. The only issue here is whether whois.iana.org is designed > for this kind of use -- if not, it might be abusive of Emacs to do this, > and we should indeed keep the server list updated in Emacs. > As far as I can see, whois.iana.org is indeed designed for this kind of use, and the GNU/Linux whois command even has an option to do this (-I). But I'm not 100% sure. Do you think it's better if I first check this with IANA?
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References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAIVBMVEWqscbb19P+/fwx VJUqWKl1Pltdapg5bc1ujcNDdND///9cVpW2AAAAAWJLR0QKaND0VgAAAAd0SU1FB+UDHQo5EQYt /Z0AAAGXSURBVDjLbZRNb4JAEIYXNZajou0Zt4nxWAtoemtiaepV5Q+ASnuzaVPKjZgmcrfpOv+2 yy4fu7BvQtjwZGb2nZmAkKh+oZ6BbKsu21l7Cx/Z+4bcjRcdkWXgmkbW2pn7CoB/PHejisADz1oz YM7ECsFxTIuwVOYyoooBgNDXh2FWIPuYi0wxDjx3VUbEEJMMnGnNTgmqAHik1W8di4PSM83kUzBx N9xH0aE2z5RZlH2EAC/ssPUk56MHgHt2GspgHMNvi5+clQgGAF/8ZLo56LJmZBfbvzIS5GAbFU2J PrP74nZeI4QDSvl042eWtQDkHV1QL9GQHjMngypCv6RJmiQpSCB4qrQQQS/LTu90l73FGrlvciwt CWCyjM4tFaANOeM6GNGeX1PvrPki6ApbshPBFSFpml7oQ3gfSwBE0/sHpGknGdwAQXr/uwnMMKKd 5SsnAVp9pyzObfxhrDBYzbUJHiswrEBHAkLECWCqjAiLZauDN77PDZCNSQ1sa3FUpsoH0QSy6HXn s71CoY8stfzqTyTL+Ae/LQOjQE/KlgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMy0yOVQxMDo1 NzoxNyswMDowMLYsct8AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDMtMjlUMTA6NTc6MTcrMDA6 MDDHccpjAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Quando Quango's _Of Factory New York_: "Love Tempo" Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:58:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sun, 28 Mar 2021 20:23:17 +0000") Message-ID: <87ft0ens4h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two > requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. That's fine. The only issue here is whether whois.iana.org is designed for this kind of use -- if not, it might be abusive of Emacs to do this, and we should indeed keep the server list updated in Ema [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> writes: > IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two > requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. That's fine. The only issue here is whether whois.iana.org is designed for this kind of use -- if not, it might be abusive of Emacs to do this, and we should indeed keep the server list updated in Emacs. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 08:38:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 04:38:48 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47793 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQnQ6-0005rb-T5 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:38:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQnQ5-0005rP-KI for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:38:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQnQ0-00047z-91; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:38:40 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1722 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQnPz-00015f-MI; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 04:38:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:38:50 +0300 Message-Id: <83a6qmmk11.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:35:37 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:35:37 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN > > > >> IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two > >> requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. > > > > I don't see any problems with that, do you? > > > > In principle, I don't see any problems. But I seem to recall that RMS > dislikes solutions that make unnecessary network connections, or IOW that > avoidable network connections should be avoided. > > If you agree on the general design, I'd be happy to implement it. I don't see a problem, no. We frequently make network connections when necessary. > Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem. I'd wait with caching until we see a performance problem. It isn't like people are expected to invoke this command many times in a row.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2021 07:35:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 29 03:35:42 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQmR4-0004JC-Kn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 03:35:42 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:45712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQmR1-0004J2-RG for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 03:35:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1617003338; bh=nIA4YlZqsgs+UQT1uy3R5v/Gfj7KkapxpttsM5JlmWI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=qb+RlRYCGDt2K8nmMxXi8CE1GQ6RPYkxHr/6x0vRdeBzr2XZIPEZcCOFgDLXgJqBL v/XdeJg4huzzRV4Rn49YKhMUlwGxkHp7vUtLwKKU+SNJr2zT49PS9a60/mPEo9cDMA cUfBzT9hJSNDJYIJVlwOfmZ3CodkiketgwN+S2CDEKaEqtMCk3WJhz7zXGpzopqWmx GweI1OePJ/BVwId5JhxHBFLf4sF0uV3nLHBPOgXObrvHK6WEzzp29TPInHhhEIYqkD YjWu4+QwpG03Kw2u9m5Q6qRiO9SWovRX35frFJTTGyDFaysDaOBOEuVSynSTUNepRe SiHY9BLNHS9gQ== Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:35:37 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <a83bd81e9a93485d7411@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> <87zgynp9t5.fsf@HIDDEN> <406246af7fb57420287b@HIDDEN> <83k0pqmulc.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: larsi@HIDDEN, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would create two >> requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois server. > > I don't see any problems with that, do you? > In principle, I don't see any problems. But I seem to recall that RMS dislikes solutions that make unnecessary network connections, or IOW that avoidable network connections should be avoided. If you agree on the general design, I'd be happy to implement it. Possibly with a cache to mitigate the above problem.
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From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:19:05 +0800
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Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 4:23 AM Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>
> >> [2] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rfc1036/whois/next/tld_serv_list
> >
> > The list originates at whois.iana.org... which is a server that seems
> > to respond to whois queries nicely. So we could just update
> > whois-server-name to that? And remove whois-server-tld.
> >
>
> That would be ideal/simpler, but whois.iana.org only contains information
> about the whois server to use for each TLD. For instance whois -h
> whois.iana.org gnu.org tells you that the whois server to contact is
> whois.pir.org. IOW, without a built-in list, each whois query would
> create two requests, one to whois.iana.org, and one to the actual whois
> server. IOW again, a whois request would become:
>
> whois -h $(whois -h whois.iana.org DOMAIN | grep '^whois:' | cut -d: -f2) DOMAIN
>
> Would that be acceptable?
The suggested method really can do the trick:
;;; begin quote
$ whois -h $(whois -h whois.iana.org facebook.com | grep '^whois:' |
cut -d: -f2) facebook.com
Domain Name: FACEBOOK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2320948_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.registrarsafe.com
Registrar URL: http://www.registrarsafe.com
Updated Date: 2020-03-10T18:53:59Z
Creation Date: 1997-03-29T05:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2028-03-30T04:00:00Z
Registrar: RegistrarSafe, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 3237
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abusecomplaints@HIDDEN
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-650-308-7004
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: serverDeleteProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#serverDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited
https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited
Name Server: A.NS.FACEBOOK.COM
Name Server: B.NS.FACEBOOK.COM
Name Server: C.NS.FACEBOOK.COM
Name Server: D.NS.FACEBOOK.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2021-03-29T00:14:06Z <<<
For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp
NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.
TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly
prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to
use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or
query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register
domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right
to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure
operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the
Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
;;; end quote
But I'm not sure if this is the standard query procedures
suggested/defined by the whois protocol itself.
Regards
--
Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN>
Theory and Simulation of Materials
Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I think we should simply update the list of servers we use, it sounds > like what we have is outdated. The default should be useful and > easily reachable. But I'm not an expert on this stuff. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I think we should simply update the list of servers we use, it sounds > like what we have is outdated. The default should be useful and > easily reachable. But I'm not an expert on this stuff. Oh, sure; we should fix whois.el. I was just wondering whether there was something odd going on in our basic networking layer here. I let the connect run for longer, and I do seem to reliably get timeouts here. It's just that they take a long time -- this one ran for about five minutes before I got: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Failed connect" "Connection timed out") make-network-process(:name "Whois" :buffer #<buffer *scratch*> :host "rs.internic.net" :service 43 :nowait nil :tls-parameters nil :coding nil) That is an excessive timeout... but I guess this is up to the OS? We don't specify a timeout in the make-network-process function, I think? (It's been a while since I've read it...) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 16:11:14 +0200
>
> Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > open-network-stream: Failed connect: No route to host
>
> I can reproduce this in Emacs 28... but only intermittently. Sometimes
> it will hang completely, and sometimes I get the timeout.
>
> This is the backtrace (with debug-on-quit) when it just hangs:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit)
> make-network-process(:name "Whois" :buffer #<buffer *Whois*> :host "rs.internic.net" :service 43 :nowait nil :tls-parameters nil :coding nil)
> open-network-stream("Whois" #<buffer *Whois*> "rs.internic.net" 43)
> run-network-program("Whois" "rs.internic.net" 43 "facebook.com")
> whois(nil "facebook.com")
I think we should simply update the list of servers we use, it sounds
like what we have is outdated. The default should be useful and
easily reachable. But I'm not an expert on this stuff.
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Failed connect: No route to host I can reproduce this in Emacs 28... but
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Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> writes:
> open-network-stream: Failed connect: No route to host
I can reproduce this in Emacs 28... but only intermittently. Sometimes
it will hang completely, and sometimes I get the timeout.
This is the backtrace (with debug-on-quit) when it just hangs:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit)
make-network-process(:name "Whois" :buffer #<buffer *Whois*> :host "rs.internic.net" :service 43 :nowait nil :tls-parameters nil :coding nil)
open-network-stream("Whois" #<buffer *Whois*> "rs.internic.net" 43)
run-network-program("Whois" "rs.internic.net" 43 "facebook.com")
whois(nil "facebook.com")
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To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:38 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:41:20 +0800 > > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > I think that's unrelated, so I don't understand why it hangs > > > indefinitely for you. Are you sure you waited enough time before > > > giving up? > > > > It will hang up there forever. > > Maybe your network connection blocks some addresses or something? > Otherwise, how to explain that it doesn't block for me? I further debug this problem with tcpdump for a runing `emcas -Q` process, as described below. For `M-x whois RET gnu.org RET`, when the query succeeds, the following info will be captured: $ sudo tcpdump -i any port 43 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked v1), capture size 262144 bytes 15:00:29.061914 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [S], seq 1929893031, win 64440, options [mss 1432,sackOK,TS val 417951633 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 15:00:29.398867 IP6 whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois > X10DAi.56918: Flags [S.], seq 1816069595, ack 1929893032, win 1440, options [mss 1379,nop,nop,TS val 2007125977 ecr 417951633,sackOK,eol], length 0 15:00:29.398923 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [.], ack 1, win 64440, options [nop,nop,TS val 417951970 ecr 2007125977], length 0 15:00:29.399038 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [P.], seq 1:10, ack 1, win 64440, options [nop,nop,TS val 417951970 ecr 2007125977], length 9 15:00:30.297592 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [P.], seq 1:10, ack 1, win 64440, options [nop,nop,TS val 417952869 ecr 2007125977], length 9 15:00:31.321603 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [P.], seq 1:10, ack 1, win 64440, options [nop,nop,TS val 417953893 ecr 2007125977], length 9 15:00:31.339068 IP6 whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois > X10DAi.56918: Flags [P.], seq 1:1368, ack 10, win 2880, options [nop,nop,TS val 2007127334 ecr 417952869], length 1367 15:00:31.339120 IP6 X10DAi.56918 > whois.publicinterestregistry.net.whois: Flags [.], ack 1368, win 63073, options [nop,nop,TS val 417953910 ecr 2007127334], length 0 For `M-x whois RET baidu.com RET`, when the query fails, the following info will be captured: $ sudo tcpdump -i any port 43 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked v1), capture size 262144 bytes 15:05:24.433913 IP X10DAi.47186 > 198.41.3.79.whois: Flags [S], seq 1963456950, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2174254150 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 15:05:25.465604 IP X10DAi.47186 > 198.41.3.79.whois: Flags [S], seq 1963456950, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2174255182 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 15:05:27.481605 IP X10DAi.47186 > 198.41.3.79.whois: Flags [S], seq 1963456950, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2174257198 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0 I also will see the following in *Messages* buffer: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. open-network-stream: Failed connect: No route to host Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2021 06:38:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 28 02:38:25 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQP45-0007Ak-0Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:38:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQP43-0007AX-G5 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:38:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQP3x-0006cg-TW; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:38:18 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3028 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQP3w-0003XU-VT; Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:38:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:38:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83h7kvok9r.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAGP6POLZ30nqAW89-8FVZFETwnWLzQGZ79+m9o-gtk7g0yCVow@HIDDEN> (message from Hongyi Zhao on Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:41:20 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+=YrFHsFU-+zJ_H1tVmE06RwQvkaUx3Zb4vS8usXYFLA@HIDDEN> <83r1k0ognb.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6POLZ30nqAW89-8FVZFETwnWLzQGZ79+m9o-gtk7g0yCVow@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:41:20 +0800 > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > I think that's unrelated, so I don't understand why it hangs > > indefinitely for you. Are you sure you waited enough time before > > giving up? > > It will hang up there forever. Maybe your network connection blocks some addresses or something? Otherwise, how to explain that it doesn't block for me?
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2021 01:41:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 21:41:40 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQKQu-0007xf-An for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 21:41:40 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f180.google.com ([209.85.208.180]:33394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN>) id 1lQKQs-0007xS-LA for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 21:41:39 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id 15so11909125ljj.0 for <47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 18:41:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/jB1y+7dYHq1zOXdepHU3q2oYuBHarT5wvovur7dmIg=; b=MhqrzY1Tde3vvtdrVwCwrNryCRXuQEBpzjQxk/mFpCryc/zUkZEOdaWiZDnorSEXtj aJQh4xbr0H2u3tQzqmjxyeTh/yOhFDUiCT1c523KPW8H4zhU29DUtGSdhVJ38zGsioAf 0983beXGlcdff4SeJoZJ9QvtpSvLtQPDra73oP0GNfyPlBRtlZD247QaKmHYon2d1O88 wHjt9XXOhb3YjL7TfZPzJm86AF2rpbuSX3Y+P6e/L8DBbCn6AB2Er1LtLm6AwIGri9uF jrFJBbvwGEHY0Af2+Q7JrYXCkiMYFN3aJZktEpnsPbAgb7Qrj7ArytlvWFQg3yBuz7fl b4xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/jB1y+7dYHq1zOXdepHU3q2oYuBHarT5wvovur7dmIg=; b=MJuCQE+bF5DDuhGZMhimChplQBXJ9BTZ902AbUimgJib1elBUQGxGj75c2YVtYIgfi UIalpPivmJdpBUBSaRP0hGagoUOncpwVsQjXGbfOJv/BZq6R9r4vXr6azF2lVPBYTZYh DM9VoXtCF6J9HvLTVEBuLJU8kiFByn1i/zjcbW8CkVSEbakCBC4wI1O8zi+m03x/qmQQ ngeK/KyKm18ur6keKLheTYNwORaoy5pdNrDU2nzz5yBbUFgF78x2cmDDnR8WRmaEEbrH SJWPizu9DX1afb+IsCbJbkoXEVWzTFa3tCpKJQaFrFXhj2vr+qWjhKXokettEKC7sNyL XeXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531DG/1TG1LEABixueDLNA9xOx7giF/ysWu5OSoDihhWkeSPBOCJ hiLK6JhsecaBKvvrdqGg5IuRgS1980wmfMdy1K8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+a8bhSnTKUs6O0anJHxuaB9Gw9ByJoU5b29Pz/fRqFLi9v1RhxW+05nmJv9gZWShcZ985AbgUna21lrkcVoU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:3816:: with SMTP id f22mr13491164lja.287.1616895692458; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 18:41:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+=YrFHsFU-+zJ_H1tVmE06RwQvkaUx3Zb4vS8usXYFLA@HIDDEN> <83r1k0ognb.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83r1k0ognb.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 09:41:20 +0800 Message-ID: <CAGP6POLZ30nqAW89-8FVZFETwnWLzQGZ79+m9o-gtk7g0yCVow@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:44 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:29:24 +0800 > > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > > > > > > > How to obtain the above debug information? > > > > > > It's in *Messages*. > > > > But for my case, I see the following in *Messages* buffer: > > > > Eager macro-expansion failure: (wrong-type-argument listp [(first-item > > . rest-items) (sp-get-list-items)]) > > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > > I think that's unrelated, so I don't understand why it hangs > indefinitely for you. Are you sure you waited enough time before > giving up? It will hang up there forever. Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 13:44:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 09:44:29 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43580 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ9Eq-0002dO-UV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:44:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ9Eo-0002dB-M3 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:44:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ9Ej-0006MH-ES; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:44:21 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4222 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ9Ei-0002Fn-OL; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:44:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:44:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83r1k0ognb.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAGP6PO+=YrFHsFU-+zJ_H1tVmE06RwQvkaUx3Zb4vS8usXYFLA@HIDDEN> (message from Hongyi Zhao on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:29:24 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+=YrFHsFU-+zJ_H1tVmE06RwQvkaUx3Zb4vS8usXYFLA@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:29:24 +0800 > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > > > > > How to obtain the above debug information? > > > > It's in *Messages*. > > But for my case, I see the following in *Messages* buffer: > > Eager macro-expansion failure: (wrong-type-argument listp [(first-item > . rest-items) (sp-get-list-items)]) > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. I think that's unrelated, so I don't understand why it hangs indefinitely for you. Are you sure you waited enough time before giving up?
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 12:29:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 08:29:46 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43531 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ84Y-0000oV-DA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:29:46 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-f170.google.com ([209.85.208.170]:38623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ84U-0000o6-HO for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:29:44 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-f170.google.com with SMTP id s17so10464042ljc.5 for <47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 05:29:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cv6kKr0nibexIYonpFEPlRCwWTmuNKBF15PzUw33bCA=; b=S7g/kDPXBytj9Ip0U11d/ubgcrQPR+OLGaEURB2MnnWxcEBBYNSNMIu02Tqp3uyzIe WTJhy7xC26Ly+/O80b8mXf2WXb8F6h4XYe8HP/im+jUbd/L9IExAx02pQZe1olorsp5F Gfiu4E6tjur5dHlfZdI7N/SG/AyV2rmq8wHX7oytlP8xAedCJzbd/lPJUKJIxqm7i3iM pHRiMgukbuD826oCSi47e/xjwRF4cwDaOrfOhNE7YwX5DfYXPIZGjwXlhh1nhLiJyOaR FXw6mX2yv+8H76XMToh042znkvbZYN9IzvvdarT5hO2lv41FYeEZ75qOMZrHJ7xUrDkr 2oFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cv6kKr0nibexIYonpFEPlRCwWTmuNKBF15PzUw33bCA=; b=lqwoJCOyghCc9N9/ZzWkdSu6DR/p49ZpuxbVT4cOXm4aT4tXu66IoPLP88AqKKYLd3 0DrULZ9xv2GYHlaFsowmXvKXGiWWEkq4VGRjkkQ3XRll52GdF8zGruwO60K3O9HqoOcC 1r9e983K2MySpbGCn/1hlxjy1LJjQsU8mTae4fVKZDjOrk+bk6C7NujBsuvJ/+2+VIK9 /PFHlqNf2+9c+INKM+3FoDyb3GRu8rbxJIa8LmVNhuDWfCv6z0U72f/C1LFGGwee7TPo LzLjK4OzGZ4bl3Qoes+ULULV4XwCo4zqLVLD288kWsArGMzJi/loVYqXw/dTeCc/Foc0 0e1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533KYek94+YOUHyVJ3buk0zdKI/rzPnQlJRm8jRQeQCMvaVnrs7r cCC15Xat2sbdZJ1nbbUD9iCVINZho+boIU3WZLQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxQ+IyW8QR90GQkF/pwHwGxtZPCNpKdSOcrOT5hb20wxtrbgaYI2LcvNuwhAHMojoDDs+oBa9XRbsXuNXA9zyk= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:99c4:: with SMTP id l4mr11977321ljj.13.1616848176454; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 20:29:24 +0800 Message-ID: <CAGP6PO+=YrFHsFU-+zJ_H1tVmE06RwQvkaUx3Zb4vS8usXYFLA@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 6:33 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:57:31 +0800 > > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > It doesn't hang here (I'm not on Ubuntu, though). It times out: > > > > > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > > > How to obtain the above debug information? > > It's in *Messages*. But for my case, I see the following in *Messages* buffer: Eager macro-expansion failure: (wrong-type-argument listp [(first-item . rest-items) (sp-get-list-items)]) For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 11:04:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 07:04:52 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ6kO-00059O-1U for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:04:52 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ6kN-00059G-09 for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:04:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616843089; bh=1ldg4iQ8rHUL6W6i+6nyotiJoo3EI2IdZIcsnAY4ULA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=XJdKIGUZHqJ5liz4NNdxVn+I/gSke4xxjq8iEWyMBUSfC4+AVhYfRLOtBQVQUMRod w9GNYAkO0HlUAS6zpTjWYTWznb0C/6TgCV1Tw9NwhzVELAzeA307all6sCgZwFf8Qr /Iwnh1NyAkUUGpLXGu1rkFi6iJF9ha75OSJ8FpgkuOrNR3UAlmnlx0phtALAq9EVx9 s4BLhfs/QVnPMdpb1yRdonV8aYU0xDYClunv2F8duL3Zrhf/sRe5AwdsSMJu89Vd6g 76BcmIhNUMlchJX5TSN+xuntSOXnx5wvsWTsymxpH5CW9VlrKc7k9vtERdnYovJQjY QSgmycPyBcbHg== Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:04:49 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <b2996462740da408d1a9@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> The manpage of whois says: "This version of the whois client tries to >>> guess the right server to ask for the specified object. If no guess >>> can be made it will connect to whois.networksolutions.com for NIC >>> handles or whois.arin.net for IPv4 addresses and network names." >> >> We don't use the external 'whois' command, so its man page is not >> relevant, I think. > > Indeed. Would it not make sense to use the external whois command if it > is available, and to fall back to the Lisp code when it is not? > > In any case, the whois-server-tld alist needs to be updated, it has only > 15 entries [1], the whois client for GNU/Linux has more than 400 (see > [2]). And these 400 are only for the domain name lookups, there are two > others for IP addresses, another for NIC handles, and another one for AS > numbers... > Two other _lists_, I mean. > > [1] Its first entry is not a valid server name, all other ones except > the "org" and "mil" are valid server names but are not the appropriate > server for the corresponding TLD. > > [2] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rfc1036/whois/next/tld_serv_list >
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 11:01:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 07:01:40 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ6hI-0004Kd-C4 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:01:40 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ6hG-0004Hu-9y for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:01:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616842896; bh=wpR9M/Tp0O6FFe5DR36iOjtHYJsVcly9aTMCoXhsCEA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=t6MI5jRPmjZ1S+0rtCjsZ+cLjQr+J4bN7D9DiyXMBmh09C+bjG5TXMO2LKyFgWlgF CesOyPL4jCkDdejn0n+YJLIbbhAETyH1uHQeNzhSjMCTcaTFNvdsqZZFEXQYay+5M0 30cQ6j8yF/9TCvhibdCq76OeYD48q6xT6rtMUg9yUQN0O+0K5lZTAL/BtEz1iqWoN3 AEoIMsYHqaDIVnQ3kX31j5m6y6FmzUdxNNcchZAbJAvldqpGPAoExJ1SR1w1snkRHj fs3S2VIAhcqDt5RFwY4YXTD8sA2TC0LthaoJrWbVWEs3chK9Dkx/fjkmnr50naqsvl P0GcF9UQJfCWg== Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:01:36 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <b299646274aa53c1efd0@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> The manpage of whois says: "This version of the whois client tries to >> guess the right server to ask for the specified object. If no guess can >> be made it will connect to whois.networksolutions.com for NIC handles >> or whois.arin.net for IPv4 addresses and network names." > > We don't use the external 'whois' command, so its man page is not > relevant, I think. > Indeed. Would it not make sense to use the external whois command if it is available, and to fall back to the Lisp code when it is not? In any case, the whois-server-tld alist needs to be updated, it has only 15 entries [1], the whois client for GNU/Linux has more than 400 (see [2]). And these 400 are only for the domain name lookups, there are two others for IP addresses, another for NIC handles, and another one for AS numbers... [1] Its first entry is not a valid server name, all other ones except the "org" and "mil" are valid server names but are not the appropriate server for the corresponding TLD. [2] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rfc1036/whois/next/tld_serv_list
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 10:33:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 06:33:59 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ6GV-0002IA-7L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:33:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ6GT-0002Hx-FY for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:33:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ6GO-0000xf-3G; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:33:52 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4196 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ6GN-0001Py-1p; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:33:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:33:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83tuowopgu.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> (message from Hongyi Zhao on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:57:31 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <CAGP6PO+iFOPSettwov=yiyZ_9bu+uSnkyM-fO3KB1Ohnf7QLxQ@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:57:31 +0800 > Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > It doesn't hang here (I'm not on Ubuntu, though). It times out: > > > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > How to obtain the above debug information? It's in *Messages*.
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To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:30 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:39:20 +0800 > > > > On Ubuntu 20.04, I'm using the self compiled git master version of Emacs. > > It seems that the whois client in Emacs only works for some specific domain > > names, for example gnu.org and emacs.org, but for others like > > facebook.com it just hangs and returns nothing. The following command > > will trigger the error: > > > > "M-x RET whois RET facebook.com" > > It doesn't hang here (I'm not on Ubuntu, though). It times out: > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > If I try a different server, it does work: > > C-u M-x whois RET facebook.com RET whois.crsnic.net RET Yep. I confirmed that you're absolutely right. But how can we change the default whois server picked by the client, say, in Emacs's initialization file? > > This returns immediately with a large *Whois* buffer. > > Perhaps some network expert could tell why we use by default a server > that is less useful. -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#47431; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 08:08:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 04:08:07 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43372 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ3zL-0004mG-94 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 04:08:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ3zK-0004lk-0U for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 04:08:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ3zE-0002vV-RP; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 04:08:00 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2854 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ3zE-0004sV-4X; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 04:08:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:08:05 +0300 Message-Id: <83y2e9nhne.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:23:20 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:23:20 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> > cc: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN>, 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > The manpage of whois says: "This version of the whois client tries to > guess the right server to ask for the specified object. If no guess can be > made it will connect to whois.networksolutions.com for NIC handles or > whois.arin.net for IPv4 addresses and network names." We don't use the external 'whois' command, so its man page is not relevant, I think.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47431) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2021 07:23:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 27 03:23:24 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lQ3I3-0003en-Oy for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 03:23:24 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <gregory@HIDDEN>) id 1lQ3I1-0003ed-Fk for 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 03:23:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1616829800; bh=a/XzkZeiTQvUo+7eXaNjWLG0+Yz4L7tU75WAvZjKO/o=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=m5JwxOm+doKq1yl5PNPr8mCnsD8zQ7o4v53WJNFFiMOwepkU7u7L+jvb+pIg0nVIB Vs1BvHT+beYYqNjyqq6a+ya8pmgDFxElhH9AYXE1HRHiDo8EM14R/o27EfReaQA0JG yxZdB4g3W8A+yfWLtUlgzlxBezePnFL0Sif2/bgxqi1+BQurQE/mt8TiJqoMyO0kzh MVcwtiWjlS6qpi3VkGpF1EpBBbqz+K09JEfQtr5qr/PxFsgqQSxJud/d7KCFB4f4om GFUi5+65hKESNp5Fb6v54v1RlBsU31S23jh11U3PK9IFplo1Igv64mXeQczwCZC1Hp +NHbhIy2LcLhg== Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:23:20 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47431: Process Whois connection broken by remote peer. In-Reply-To: <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <b299646274818503158d@HIDDEN> References: <CAGP6POKrhGgaz7wbuC5cTMrZxFCV99nf-+NGsFr+66nAgj4qiw@HIDDEN> <835z1dp0qg.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47431 Cc: 47431 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> On Ubuntu 20.04, I'm using the self compiled git master version of >> Emacs. It seems that the whois client in Emacs only works for some >> specific domain names, for example gnu.org and emacs.org, but for >> others like facebook.com it just hangs and returns nothing. The >> following command will trigger the error: >> >> "M-x RET whois RET facebook.com" > > It doesn't hang here (I'm not on Ubuntu, though). It times out: > > open-network-stream: make client process failed: Connection timed out, > :name, Whois, :buffer, *Whois*, :host, rs.internic.net, :service, 43, > :nowait, nil, :tls-parameters, nil, :coding, nil > > If I try a different server, it does work: > > C-u M-x whois RET facebook.com RET whois.crsnic.net RET > > This returns immediately with a large *Whois* buffer. > > Perhaps some network expert could tell why we use by default a server > that is less useful. > (I'm not a network expert, but...) It is probably better to let the whois client select the appropriate server itself. The current default whois-server-name (rs.internic.net) doesn't work at all, and although whois-guess-server is t, it doesn't work well. The manpage of whois says: "This version of the whois client tries to guess the right server to ask for the specified object. If no guess can be made it will connect to whois.networksolutions.com for NIC handles or whois.arin.net for IPv4 addresses and network names."
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