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>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 13:51:00 +0200, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> s=
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>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 13:16:24 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN=
> said:
Lars> Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> I=CA=BCm not convinced that=CA=BCs necessary. I just did the follow=
ing:
>>>=20
>>> 1. emacs-29+my patch, install some packages =3D> no package-selecte=
d-packages
>>> setting
>>> 2. emacs-28, run `package-list-packages=CA=BC =3D> package-selected=
-packages
>>> is populated with packages set in step 1, and saved in .emacs
Lars> Oh, I didn't know that it was automatically recreated. Then what=
's the
Lars> point of the variable? According to the doc string:
Of course one use case that breaks is to do
emacs-29->emacs-28, *delete* some packages, and then go back to
emacs-29, which will pick up the old multi-session value.
I guess we could change emacs-29 to refresh the multi-session value
every time you run `list-packages'.
Robert
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>>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 13:16:24 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN=
> said:
Lars> Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:
>> I=CA=BCm not convinced that=CA=BCs necessary. I just did the followi=
ng:
>>=20
>> 1. emacs-29+my patch, install some packages =3D> no package-selected=
-packages
>> setting
>> 2. emacs-28, run `package-list-packages=CA=BC =3D> package-selected-=
packages
>> is populated with packages set in step 1, and saved in .emacs
Lars> Oh, I didn't know that it was automatically recreated. Then what=
's the
Lars> point of the variable? According to the doc string:
I guess reading a variable is faster than recursing over the elpa
directory.
Lars> ---
Lars> Store here packages installed explicitly by user.
Lars> ---
Lars> Does 2) there get that right, or does it contain all packages ins=
talled,
Lars> explicitly or not?
It contains the packages I installed using 'i' in list-packages, but
not their automatically installed dependencies.
Robert
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Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:
> I=CA=BCm not convinced that=CA=BCs necessary. I just did the following:
>
> 1. emacs-29+my patch, install some packages =3D> no package-selected-pack=
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> 2. emacs-28, run `package-list-packages=CA=BC =3D> package-selected-packa=
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> is populated with packages set in step 1, and saved in .emacs
Oh, I didn't know that it was automatically recreated. Then what's the
point of the variable? According to the doc string:
---
Store here packages installed explicitly by user.
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Does 2) there get that right, or does it contain all packages installed,
explicitly or not?
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>>>>> On Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:52:47 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN=
> said:
Lars> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes:
>> - Keep the old defcustom, and add a new multisession variable.
>>=20
>> - If the old variable exists, use it. Otherwise the new one.
>>=20
>> - Add a new command that "upgrades" the variable into a multisession
>> variable. Make it say that it will break things on Emacs < 29. Don=
't
>> run it automatically.
>>=20
>> - In Emacs version N (e.g., 5 major versions from now?), upgrade any
>> user automatically, without prompting, and make the defcustom
>> obsolete.
Lars> Hm... I think this has the disadvantage that it both requires us=
er
Lars> intervention, but in addition it'll force you into one usage patt=
ern or
Lars> another at some point.
Lars> I think perhaps Stefan M's suggestion of adding a new user option=
to
Lars> control the behaviour here is the only practical way forward.
I=CA=BCm not convinced that=CA=BCs necessary. I just did the following:
1. emacs-29+my patch, install some packages =3D> no package-selected-packag=
es
setting
2. emacs-28, run `package-list-packages=CA=BC =3D> package-selected-packages
is populated with packages set in step 1, and saved in .emacs
3. emacs-28, install some packages
4. emacs-29+my-patch, `package-list-packages=CA=BC, error because it now
has a setting for package-selected-packages, which means we need to
call the multisession variable something different. I fixed that, and
the packages installed in step 3 show up [1]
So for the small number of people going backwards from emacs-29, the
problem fixes itself, and we can document that, and for people going
forwards to emacs-29 and staying there is no manual intervention
needed.
Robert
Footnotes:
[1] We can now argue about what to call that variable. I went for
`package-selected-packages-ms=CA=BC for now
--=20
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Subject: Re: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be
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> The variable `package-selected-packages` should not be saved to the
> users init file (or whatever `custom-file` points to).
Yet, for some use cases it should.
So maybe we need to introduce a custom variable to choose whether it is
saved as a normal user config or not.
Stefan
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes: >> Hm... I don't immediately see any way to make this work seamlessly in a >> way that's backwards/forwards compatible. > > What about if we allowed setting `package-selected-packages' to a symbol > l [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57503 Cc: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN>, 57503 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes: >> Hm... 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Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:
> For values of 'just' that are a little bigger than changing that one
> line =F0=9F=98=80
=F0=9F=98=89
> rough=CA=BCn=CA=BCready patch attached. Seems to work fine. I=CA=BCve not=
tested the
> interaction with a .emacs that has package-selected-packages set, but
> if I understand multisession variables correctly that will just be
> ignored.
Hm, yes -- if we do this, we'll end up with all users both having that
variable saved in their init file in addition to the multisession
storage. Hm. That sounds really confusing.
I can also see people running into difficulties when switching between
older and newer versions of Emacs, and Emacs becoming very confused.
Hm... I don't immediately see any way to make this work seamlessly in a
way that's backwards/forwards compatible.
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be
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>>>>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:17:55 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN=
> said:
Lars> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>> How about writing it into a file like
>> "~/.config/emacs/elpa/selected-packages"?
Lars> The defcustom could just be changed to a define-multisession-vari=
able.
For values of 'just' that are a little bigger than changing that one
line =F0=9F=98=80
rough=CA=BCn=CA=BCready patch attached. Seems to work fine. I=CA=BCve not t=
ested the
interaction with a .emacs that has package-selected-packages set, but
if I understand multisession variables correctly that will just be
ignored.
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From 1a84bfbc1b568da6bf63bf9679a317b29f78d0e9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 16:28:11 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Make package-selected-packages a multisession variable
To: emacs-devel@HIDDEN
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 63 ++++++++++++++++++--------------------
1 file changed, 30 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
index ed23ee5f22..cda55bd90e 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
@@ -384,7 +384,8 @@ package-unsigned-archives
:risky t
:version "24.4")
-(defcustom package-selected-packages nil
+(require 'multisession)
+(define-multisession-variable package-selected-packages nil
"Store here packages installed explicitly by user.
This variable is fed automatically by Emacs when installing a new package.
This variable is used by `package-autoremove' to decide
@@ -395,8 +396,8 @@ package-selected-packages
To check if a package is contained in this list here, use
`package--user-selected-p', as it may populate the variable with
a sane initial value."
- :version "25.1"
- :type '(repeat symbol))
+ :synchronized t
+ :package "package")
(defcustom package-native-compile nil
"Non-nil means to natively compile packages as part of their installation.
@@ -1907,22 +1908,15 @@ package--find-non-dependencies
unless (memq name dep-list)
collect name)))
-(defun package--save-selected-packages (&optional value)
- "Set and save `package-selected-packages' to VALUE."
- (when value
- (setq package-selected-packages value))
- (if after-init-time
- (customize-save-variable 'package-selected-packages package-selected-packages)
- (add-hook 'after-init-hook #'package--save-selected-packages)))
-
(defun package--user-selected-p (pkg)
"Return non-nil if PKG is a package was installed by the user.
PKG is a package name.
This looks into `package-selected-packages', populating it first
if it is still empty."
- (unless (consp package-selected-packages)
- (package--save-selected-packages (package--find-non-dependencies)))
- (memq pkg package-selected-packages))
+ (unless (consp (multisession-value package-selected-packages))
+ (setf (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
+ (package--find-non-dependencies)))
+ (memq pkg (multisession-value package-selected-packages)))
(defun package--get-deps (pkgs)
(let ((seen '()))
@@ -1950,7 +1944,7 @@ package--removable-packages
"Return a list of names of packages no longer needed.
These are packages which are neither contained in
`package-selected-packages' nor a dependency of one that is."
- (let ((needed (package--get-deps package-selected-packages)))
+ (let ((needed (package--get-deps (multisession-value package-selected-packages))))
(cl-loop for p in (mapcar #'car package-alist)
unless (or (memq p needed)
;; Do not auto-remove external packages.
@@ -2151,8 +2145,8 @@ package-install
(package-desc-name pkg)
pkg)))
(unless (or dont-select (package--user-selected-p name))
- (package--save-selected-packages
- (cons name package-selected-packages)))
+ (setf (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
+ (cons name (multisession-value package-selected-packages))))
(if-let* ((transaction
(if (package-desc-p pkg)
(unless (package-installed-p pkg)
@@ -2284,8 +2278,8 @@ package-install-from-buffer
;; Install the package itself.
(package-unpack pkg-desc)
(unless (package--user-selected-p name)
- (package--save-selected-packages
- (cons name package-selected-packages)))
+ (setf (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
+ (cons name (multisession-value package-selected-packages))))
(package--quickstart-maybe-refresh)
pkg-desc))
@@ -2317,9 +2311,9 @@ package-install-selected-packages
;; We don't need to populate `package-selected-packages' before
;; using here, because the outcome is the same either way (nothing
;; gets installed).
- (if (not package-selected-packages)
+ (if (not (multisession-value package-selected-packages))
(message "`package-selected-packages' is empty, nothing to install")
- (let* ((not-installed (seq-remove #'package-installed-p package-selected-packages))
+ (let* ((not-installed (seq-remove #'package-installed-p (multisession-value package-selected-packages)))
(available (seq-filter (lambda (p) (assq p package-archive-contents)) not-installed))
(difference (- (length not-installed) (length available))))
(cond
@@ -2393,7 +2387,8 @@ package-delete
;; Don't deselect if this is an older version of an
;; upgraded package.
(package--newest-p pkg-desc))
- (package--save-selected-packages (remove name package-selected-packages)))
+ (setf (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
+ (remove name (multisession-value package-selected-packages))))
(cond ((not (string-prefix-p (file-name-as-directory
(expand-file-name package-user-dir))
(expand-file-name dir)))
@@ -2485,7 +2480,7 @@ package-autoremove
;; If `package-selected-packages' is nil, it would make no sense to
;; try to populate it here, because then `package-autoremove' will
;; do absolutely nothing.
- (when (or package-selected-packages
+ (when (or (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
(yes-or-no-p
(format-message
"`package-selected-packages' is empty! Really remove ALL packages? ")))
@@ -3730,15 +3725,17 @@ package--update-selected-packages
ADD and REMOVE must be disjoint lists of package names (or
`package-desc' objects) to be added and removed to the selected
packages list, respectively."
- (dolist (p add)
- (cl-pushnew (if (package-desc-p p) (package-desc-name p) p)
- package-selected-packages))
- (dolist (p remove)
- (setq package-selected-packages
- (remove (if (package-desc-p p) (package-desc-name p) p)
- package-selected-packages)))
- (when (or add remove)
- (package--save-selected-packages package-selected-packages)))
+ (let ((packages (multisession-value package-selected-packages)))
+ (dolist (p add)
+ (cl-pushnew (if (package-desc-p p) (package-desc-name p) p)
+ packages))
+ (dolist (p remove)
+ (setq packages
+ (remove (if (package-desc-p p) (package-desc-name p) p)
+ packages)))
+ (when (or add remove)
+ (setf (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
+ packages))))
(defun package-menu-execute (&optional noquery)
"Perform marked Package Menu actions.
@@ -3797,7 +3794,7 @@ package-menu-execute
;; Packages being upgraded are not marked as selected.
(package--update-selected-packages .install .delete)
(package-menu--perform-transaction install-list delete-list)
- (when package-selected-packages
+ (when (multisession-value package-selected-packages)
(if-let* ((removable (package--removable-packages)))
(message "Operation finished. Packages that are no longer needed: %d. Type `%s' to remove them"
(length removable)
--
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Full text available.Received: (at 57503) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2022 13:18:08 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 02 09:18:08 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1oU6Yh-0004AR-DY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 09:18:07 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oU6Yf-00049j-KU for 57503 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 09:18:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uFcrm27RW452behjlrYVkZkGOrqwlFNzDvcHCGnT418=; b=c3N/DIOeCwT/WZrusIxjtHzeGr HL+Fi0841V1dZyuudKNVSSa1834Pujfgsg1BEloarcMtFkpOwKcofTEqwwkR3ZAJ3cpiuAO2/t+/b 5IcJmtkzxKVNnJS5iJbWh6ljb6JU9vWw8eA87HJuXs1Qlo6wBwDJ6slGYeiTNT8gVGkU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1oU6YW-0005ms-KH; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:17:58 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file In-Reply-To: <87h71pc450.fsf@HIDDEN> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Fri, 02 Sep 2022 13:11:39 +0000") References: <87bks0368n.fsf@HIDDEN> <87h71pc450.fsf@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEV9coBFLl4VFRWx raft7Ob////o4EvwAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+YJAg0QNMh+jXIAAAGKSURBVDjLlZRb doQgDIZFXIDGWYBkugA1WYA27H9NDQG8TOtDMwcO5uNPwm0aN/xtzSfI343+7tabo3dFoR0igo4C DgDaJYUnonnFmwUDnjy1d4AGGj/DMdFdgC8fofENlTkJNEv2T0S+7wcHhyLHn2ZnpeHwAd7wK3ku 1XrAcf8A7zVld9rOHHOqKKwYOG5u6fYDkM4JOpZoJidYrdhYrQLdKpW8D/9FQbrE6QCXHKR7GA6Q AvsSKpEDaNxRqoJm7DS6vCzFSCcg0OzSviwFZ2B+3e5UkLYWUKeeCoIupxggaKh0KbxkSRc5igaB cFcQK8jL8yWHRHWrzCJtyZ8VxDafZi7L66hWFZkTtewtgqdogFmiWA4zlo4kA/VHEpa6J50UkCQc z/MYVWUgljXr4mysZZ7A0JZPRbVXYEdkpzKzVJCYtm90VX5RAMe127/kCmYIem8DY9zr0ed11As7 icOs3wyUZxYw9Bu+UqDFbgmfz2yC9ByGcn0Y/7AElicATwCfwMOfzL/BD8VDqPeEMP8PAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTA5LTAyVDEzOjE2OjUyKzAwOjAwSAUqvgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wOS0wMlQxMzoxNjo1MiswMDowMDlYkgIAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Brigitte Fontaine's _Comme =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A0?= la radio_: "Le Goudron" Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 15:17:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87y1v1j4os.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes: > How about writing it into a file like > "~/.config/emacs/elpa/selected-packages"? The defcustom could just be changed to a define-multisession-variable. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57503 Cc: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN>, 57503 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes: > How about writing it into a file like > "~/.config/emacs/elpa/selected-packages"? The defcustom could just be changed to a define-multisession-variable.
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Subject: Re: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be
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>>>>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2022 13:11:39 +0000, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo=
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>> IMHO the value of package-selected-packages should be written to a s=
eparate
>> file, so that it's possible to put it under version control or ignor=
e it,
>> independently from the rest of one's configuration.
Philip> How about writing it into a file like "~/.config/emacs/elpa/sel=
ected-packages"?
Didn=CA=BCt Lars add `define-multisession-variable' exactly for this kind
of use case?
Robert
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Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:14:19 -0400 (EDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.8.3; emacs 28.1.91 From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:43:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87bks0368n.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.20; envelope-from=joostkremers@HIDDEN; helo=wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) The variable `package-selected-packages` should not be saved to the users i= nit file (or whatever `custom-file` points to). This was discussed before on emacs-devel but wasn't resolved: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-02/msg00958.html> but= =20 The gist of it is that if you keep your configuration under version control, having package-selected-packages written to your config file is inconvenien= t if you share your config across multiple machines but do not want to have the = exact same set of packages installed on each. Even if you do want to keep the exact same set of packages on each machine,= you still need to be careful about installing them, because the order of package installation affects the order of package-selected-packages, and so does deleting and reinstalling a package. As a result, I often experienced meaningless VC conflicts that needed to be resolved. IMHO the value of package-selected-packages should be written to a separate file, so that it's possible to put it under version control or ignore it, independently from the rest of one's configuration. 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