GNU bug report logs - #63434
29.0.60; eww does not handle properly ruby/rt elements (e.g. Japanese furigana)

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: dmg@HIDDEN; dated Thu, 11 May 2023 05:32:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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[Cc'ed to debbugs to keep the bug report actionable]

>>> eww does not properly support the ruby/rt elements in HTML.
>>
>> Shouldn't the fallback element <rp> be used for browsers without ruby support?
>>
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/rp#without_ruby_support
>
> I think the ideal way would be to have a variable that configures the
> behaviour.
>
> In theory, the ruby is there to provide extra information to help with
> readability. But it only works if the reading medium provides support
> for placing the rt above the ruby.
>
> The simple solution would be to have a variable that:
>
> - when false, ignores the rt.
> - when true, renders it (using the fallback element if exists).
> - Otherwise, if it is a two characters string, the first char is
>    used to open the ruby and the second to close it.

I agree.  When customized to two characters, it could behave
as if the fallback element existed.




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> eww does not properly support the ruby/rt elements in HTML.

Shouldn't the fallback element <rp> be used for browsers without ruby support?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/rp#without_ruby_support




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eww does not properly support the ruby/rt elements in HTML.

For example, in this page http://turingmachine.org/~dmg/temp/test-ruby.html
when displayed inside eww, the word "test" has the word "above" on top of it.

The corresponding html is: <ruby>test<rt>above</rt></ruby>

In emacs eww this text appears as: testabove, with no indication that
"above" is to be displayed on top of test.

The rt element is there to provide pronunciation of the word under (see
in the same URL above the Japanese text).

Potentially, the simplest way to solve this is to filter out the <rt>
elements and not display such text.

This affects primarily the readability of Japanese text that use
furigana.


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