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Full text available.Received: (at 66946) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2023 23:24:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 05 18:24:59 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38380 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1qzmUF-0007RU-Cr for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2023 18:24:59 -0500 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:22963) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1qzmUD-0007RH-BM for 66946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Nov 2023 18:24:57 -0500 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 008611000BC; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 18:24:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1699226654; bh=IqciKDnqiWsrh0CvpbvghchSqtv1FRDhIFB2gS2cXF4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ZiBpdKu00PDk9XIgC1wyhM4z9yzkD5ByBLCOrHCYID5GhpwkokmFfH1N1sK4QbH+O ZM6OTu3X5Sl2aLy47eef+YkMM6D+T8dMkFMU24BiMMUDk3n1v/XilMc1t9Gj49Vy5O EGdyf3OB/YEHIUuxjapQyIf8x2sIvkuccjU5OG1Qb+F0LybhsEN4vbxROHy/xRR4oz NcgTzgfM5yo3dh3k0zvqVoDm6Os21D3SP/jz83nD3WmQCeDvpoX1OR4IXx4GigCtYQ GYw5XsSIOUKUoCamAKfQtCGoVijXoJznIb6abQMUmA0TB4OrNoEUGHycYSEIzS/k0K DWUcv33XwwxSQ== Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5AE00100033; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 18:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.195.71]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30885120201; Sun, 5 Nov 2023 18:24:14 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#66946: 30.0.50; Elisp manual section 17.4 describes an obsolete variable In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnGvEDDbQLJ8iDF-0uwgCrzAvieJHtUXGYPRVi39b-yLA@HIDDEN> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 5 Nov 2023 06:23:59 -0800") Message-ID: <jwvlebb6b3d.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <87pm0o5yo2.fsf@localhost> <CADwFkmnGvEDDbQLJ8iDF-0uwgCrzAvieJHtUXGYPRVi39b-yLA@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2023 18:24:13 -0500 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.139 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66946 Cc: 66946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> In Elisp manual, "17.4 Dynamic Loading of Individual Functions" >> describes `byte-compile-dynamic' variable. >> >> However, according to the docstring, this variable is no longer useful >> >> byte-compile-dynamic is a variable defined in bytecomp.el. >> >> This variable is obsolete since 27.1; not worthwhile any more. >> >> Value >> nil >> >> It looks like the corresponding section of the manual is now obsolete >> and should probably be removed. > > The manual says: > > _Experience shows that using dynamic function loading provides > benefits that are hardly measurable, so this feature is deprecated > since Emacs 27.1._ > > Stefan M, any comments here? Nothing specific, no. > Is it time to actually mark this stuff obsolete? Hmm... isn't it marked obsolete already? Or did you mean to ask if it's time to throw away the corresponding code? Stefan
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