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M-x setenv RET MANOPT RET -X100-12 RET M-x man RET man RET
This command shows the manual page for man in a new gxditview window.
Emacs cannot display the manual page because it has not been rendered to
text. But the error message is "Can't find the cat manpage". The message
is wrong. Emacs did not try to find the cat manpage, it tried to
retrieve it and it did not work.
On 19.01.2024 14:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:46:57 +0000
>> Cc:manuel@HIDDEN,68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Christopher Yeleighton<giecrilj@HIDDEN>
>>
>> If the code in man.el tried to find the manual page by itself, it would
>> not fail because the manual page is there. It succeeds if MANOPT is not
>> set and my MANOPT should not affect the manual page search algorithm.
> That depends on how we try to find the manual page(s). The
> implementation calls 'man' in a special way, which evidently fails
> under the value of MANOPT you set.
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<p>M-x setenv RET <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">MANOPT RET -X100-12 RET M-x man RET man RET</span></p>
<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">This command shows the manual page for man in a new gxditview window. Emacs cannot display the manual page because it has not been rendered to text. But the error message is "Can't find the cat manpage". The message is wrong. Emacs did not try to find the cat manpage, it tried to retrieve it and it did not work.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19.01.2024 14:32, Eli Zaretskii
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Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:manuel@HIDDEN">manuel@HIDDEN</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org">68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a>
From: Christopher Yeleighton <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:giecrilj@HIDDEN"><giecrilj@HIDDEN></a>
If the code in man.el tried to find the manual page by itself, it would
not fail because the manual page is there. It succeeds if MANOPT is not
set and my MANOPT should not affect the manual page search algorithm.
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under the value of MANOPT you set.
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 12:41:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 07:41:38 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQoBi-0003HC-CI for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:41:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQoBh-0003Gq-16; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:41:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQoBY-00053a-Fo; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:41:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ITWQqQshM92OUgEINQXquDEr427KZlWNNvbfgo7yPbY=; b=URdA3oOhhKta8ML6Ca8z MV3iPx0KmoTUMjPJCWCyBLRFZe0R7SI4N0YgewwyRrooIN6azzH3rfXI8RxtpdYdx7vKcN2eTuGmT S5nvZkY9peEZbR5oFGwimtyfyTz+dTvLG3IGGsmx9c7G5V9Fsl6X9LEb2meEJOvyRxcNWXVZ+prGR Mq4uTLzLloVN5jufpVAqDkodSMq03ZqONN2x7m1nqJ7ZuUIxVFe6yRf4y+bWxBkavPntVu6Lwc4Fk Oyo8dtgfs5jbri9FhX8SgEHIIt2O3ME1mUnLPHl+YylEMqOT7qHRXXupBKUIXvYr0tvJkGDWvMlCq YwK3yL1aMkuamg==; Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:41:19 +0200 Message-Id: <83y1clv6kw.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <3d80a687-9dd5-47fe-9758-4ca2c9ac3816@HIDDEN> (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:17:08 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> <1b3c5006-29e5-4ba7-bf1d-2bb9725f42b0@HIDDEN> <834jf9wmqv.fsf@HIDDEN> <3d80a687-9dd5-47fe-9758-4ca2c9ac3816@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) severity 68583 wishlist thanks > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:17:08 +0000 > Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> > > The error message is literally: > > > Can't find the cat manpage > > This is the title of this bug report, BTW ;-) Yes, but it was not clear from the report that it is also the text of the error message you see. Thus my question. > The right error message would be: > > > Emacs cannot display the cat manpage, either because it cannot be > found or because it cannot be rendered. Try using the command ... to > diagnose the problem! But that's not what happened. man.el actually tries to find the man page by itself, and displays that message if it fails. > Troubleshooting instructions could be included in the mode documentation > instead. Patches to make the diagnostic smarter in this case, including figuring out what to use instead of "..." above, are welcome.
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 12:17:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 07:17:20 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQnoF-0008Jw-Sq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:17:20 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:50314 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQnoE-0008GY-AD for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:17:18 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9719D1750827; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:17:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IfvKrnMUHYAE; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:29:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A79CB175080C; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:17:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3d80a687-9dd5-47fe-9758-4ca2c9ac3816@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:17:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> <1b3c5006-29e5-4ba7-bf1d-2bb9725f42b0@HIDDEN> <834jf9wmqv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <834jf9wmqv.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The error message is literally: > Can't find the cat manpage This is the title of this bug report, BTW ;-) The right error message would be: > Emacs cannot display the cat manpage, either because it cannot be found or because it cannot be rendered. Try using the command ... to diagnose the problem! Troubleshooting instructions could be included in the mode documentation instead. On 19.01.2024 12:06, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:05:03 +0000 >> Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> >> >> In that case, the error message emitted by Emacs is wrong. Emacs >> assumes that the man process failed for a particular reason, which is >> not the case. > What is the error message, and why do you think it's wrong? > > What would be the right error message in this case?
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 12:07:01 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 07:07:01 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57720 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQneG-0005ME-Nw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:07:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39008) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQneE-0005M1-G4 for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:06:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQne6-0002ue-Hx; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:06:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=YfZtol9tKZf2xGi9MwQZnm9OeBhH6OUabS5eKmH+bzs=; b=jNGgRzGOsW6z9NayHJZ4 n+obE6P/DLh8+1eV+1BVlXNf5EXnCUoGEZwVEM8eTWSgO1UjnaQBMheYw6lIePUPo0FsnMX/6YJKw 0dcKH2xfTUBESbelivxOx5A4tU0cJDg5qb0jp4NAy/UgTfWF7vPJWSWey321GSiGeYTs9Je8AYnZJ l4K8awCqw9bK0sE7ZNiWlWhhtrEnbWqu60h80Tbtf7VedWjv/mOdDe7tsxuM8ZRFtwLK1dV67OHQT utv7Wj8ZgN4+mVE8Nc3Hx5cWA9JLQ/ApEtMS6fSzf5hPp/7/C9juShwrQtEiUKYNlCa3mpd7VukkU e0d4e6DhL0Ke/Q==; Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:06:48 +0200 Message-Id: <834jf9wmqv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <1b3c5006-29e5-4ba7-bf1d-2bb9725f42b0@HIDDEN> (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:05:03 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> <1b3c5006-29e5-4ba7-bf1d-2bb9725f42b0@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:05:03 +0000 > Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> > > In that case, the error message emitted by Emacs is wrong. Emacs > assumes that the man process failed for a particular reason, which is > not the case. What is the error message, and why do you think it's wrong? What would be the right error message in this case?
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 12:05:15 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 07:05:15 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQncY-0005JN-Qw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:05:15 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:61488 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQncW-0005J8-RT for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:05:13 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A3B175080C; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:05:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XE4cL86sgXSY; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:17:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 11A951750808; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:05:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1b3c5006-29e5-4ba7-bf1d-2bb9725f42b0@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:05:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage Content-Language: en-US To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) In that case, the error message emitted by Emacs is wrong. Emacs assumes that the man process failed for a particular reason, which is not the case. On 19.01.2024 12:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:44:18 +0000 >> From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> >> >> gxditview display is more accurate (most of the time) but it cannot mark >> text, so it depends on the content. Emacs could just unset MANOPT as >> far as I am concerned. > Emacs cannot just unset MANOPT, since that variable could specify > command-line options for the 'man' command other than the ones you > used. > > To avoid the problem you describe, I suggest to set MANOPT only in the > init file of interactive shell, so that a non-interactive shell > invoked by Emacs to run shell commands will be unaffected by MANOPT. > > I don't think this is an Emacs bug.
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 12:02:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 07:02:11 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQnZb-00059Z-4K for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:02:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQnZZ-00055N-2l for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:02:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rQnZP-000683-Ad; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 07:02:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=yWi0jxkxJdGAjLtMzUUhu380V+JojKme5OzRZVAdbqc=; b=Nv1pv/61cB/bvvtWHTFj 1nuvT++iEizq5rbS8NnZRCNk4dzk0ZZcrqRsXa3M13HZYOnWM6u1fq8HgnLXyjHIQUKJHzGqPAHA8 bl2BH7gxsx1Ww5j8jeqqfwQsoYYsRXb8Q51pZsYk1tVA62H4YObQ2COywlQvkGa9VAzokJ2CWoC7E CH5zthVKigriNLOEXX4q1OfjyQiBBVo8MKdXErwaKLluCo6L1qHkoGhxe687LRm9Qa8jnKfA2vU/4 WaOQUkhhNRiQioLVup08tsdb8V6UX0kMXm3/2eFv7pTx0VeQdg1Cf9cGbBCRP6YK+iKjD3cXC1EXD ta21wDkGO5pvAQ==; Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:01:56 +0200 Message-Id: <837ck5wmyz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> (message from Christopher Yeleighton on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:44:18 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: manuel@HIDDEN, 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:44:18 +0000 > From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> > > gxditview display is more accurate (most of the time) but it cannot mark > text, so it depends on the content. Emacs could just unset MANOPT as > far as I am concerned. Emacs cannot just unset MANOPT, since that variable could specify command-line options for the 'man' command other than the ones you used. To avoid the problem you describe, I suggest to set MANOPT only in the init file of interactive shell, so that a non-interactive shell invoked by Emacs to run shell commands will be unaffected by MANOPT. I don't think this is an Emacs bug.
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 10:44:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 05:44:30 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQmMQ-0003Pf-0D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:44:30 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]:54537 helo=shark.2a.pl) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQmMO-0003PO-Kb for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:44:29 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42411750826; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:44:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C2R444_YeMIR; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:56:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 35F941750808; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:44:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <d12f135e-8944-476c-ad05-e4ef4cddff0b@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:44:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage Content-Language: en-US To: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN> References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> <09488b40-6c07-4cf1-9972-420164cc9291@HIDDEN> <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <874jf9fvwm.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) gxditview display is more accurate (most of the time) but it cannot mark text, so it depends on the content. Emacs could just unset MANOPT as far as I am concerned. On 19.01.2024 10:40, Manuel Giraud wrote: > Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> writes: > >> The problem is MANOPT=-X100-12. Emacs cannot handle this config. > Ok. So you want to read man with an external viewer?
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Full text available.Received: (at 68583) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 10:28:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 05:28:33 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQm6z-0000GS-KV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:28:33 -0500 Received: from ledu-giraud.fr ([51.159.28.247]:37256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <manuel@HIDDEN>) id 1rQm6w-0000GH-04 for 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:28:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=ed25519; bh=r8KBfrpF S4mJR6tyam6bul+tShY4GD9EuHOEbksZJBA=; h=date:references:in-reply-to: subject:cc:to:from; d=ledu-giraud.fr; b=Tv24eOqUxOWXLwz6YysclTmmkyRwMa Boya9aLmOkiuWLwiPEIEa2Zej0ScovYTObVrYok6SYQ+zizxK+yr/oCw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=rsa; bh=r8KBfrpFS4mJR6ty am6bul+tShY4GD9EuHOEbksZJBA=; h=date:references:in-reply-to:subject: cc:to:from; d=ledu-giraud.fr; b=qIJxKh3piNJqi0blcdTYRylcdPZ2NudT8VyrXz Q4f8Xkb1ggwUz0kvT7u0f4QKv/woZEAsbYv2d4we7MoZGJXE1NGVvO1QO/cyfOl47yH096 q65set1aTuaqjyIuKFBNBEwj8TDnrPLkdPDG1EncPAz3VHNk8RJeY6NDeolWnKL2h+rswy iqpTDkZAeOTYkphN8xniysbzWMoc9cUJLg5MdrRzgwGQdFn1K9yi3L1rZjoAiy1E8vCkct A0U8qdccKAWg7EqFkHMZNoz3sJsU/0wHf9qwks9gtOC/whMq+dO1TpvppvIn8e+x7kJMtf Wya5abpMvJtaCm6zxsdzebkw== Received: from computer (<unknown> [10.1.1.1]) by ledu-giraud.fr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3fb96c84 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:28:26 +0100 (CET) From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@HIDDEN> To: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#68583: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage In-Reply-To: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> (Christopher Yeleighton's message of "Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:06:20 +0000") References: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:28:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87cytxfwhj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68583 Cc: 68583 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> writes: > M-x man RET cat RET > > Can't find the cat manpage Hi, Have you try it starting with emacs -Q? -- Manuel Giraud
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2024 10:06:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 19 05:06:37 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rQllk-0005Ty-L9 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:06:37 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:33622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQlli-0005Tl-Iz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:06:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQllb-0001HQ-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:06:27 -0500 Received: from shark2.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2] helo=shark.2a.pl) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <giecrilj@HIDDEN>) id 1rQllY-0004aE-8g for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:06:26 -0500 Received: from wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86921175082F for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:06:23 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 2a.pl Received: from shark.2a.pl ([213.77.90.2]) by wrasse.2a.pl (wrasse.2a.pl [213.77.90.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eRVUcXEQp7Kw for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:18:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [10.8.1.26]) by shark.2a.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A6D7A1750808 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:06:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <0b4f0004-c471-43b8-af63-ec9a592ca16f@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:06:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 29.1; Can't find the cat manpage Content-Language: en-US From: Christopher Yeleighton <giecrilj@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: none client-ip=213.77.90.2; envelope-from=giecrilj@HIDDEN; helo=shark.2a.pl X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) M-x man RET cat RET Can't find the cat manpage In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8) Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101010 System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --sysconfdir=/etc --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib --with-tree-sitter --localstatedir=/var --with-cairo --disable-build-details --with-harfbuzz --with-libsystemd --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs/src=/usr/src/debug/emacs -flto=auto' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now -flto=auto'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: pl_PL.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Message Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t mml-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: message-do-auto-fill transient-mark-mode: (only . t) auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (reveal noutline outline two-column kmacro conf-mode network-stream url-http url-gw url-auth eww xdg url-queue shr pixel-fill kinsoku url-file svg dom mm-url gnus nnheader range cus-theme eieio-custom xwidget url-handlers bookmark wid-browse tree-widget icon server locate bib-mode tabify w32-vars ebnf2ps ps-print ps-print-loaddefs lpr dos-vars tramp tramp-loaddefs trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-compat parse-time iso8601 format-spec ntlm hmac-md5 hex-util md4 nsm net-utils ldap kermit gravatar dns url-cache goto-addr gnutls eudc-vars dig dbus xml bug-reference ange-ftp cus-edit cus-start cus-load icons wid-edit cl-print debug backtrace display-line-numbers doc-view filenotify image-mode exif ps-mode sh-script rx smie treesit executable misearch multi-isearch dired-aux shell pcomplete comint ansi-osc ring find-func cl-extra shortdoc thingatpt help-fns radix-tree mailalias mailclient textsec uni-scripts idna-mapping ucs-normalize uni-confusable textsec-check help-mode pp shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs password-cache json map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars mailcap mule-util jka-compr info time-date subr-x apropos imenu man cl-loaddefs cl-lib ansi-color rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 386606 44396) (symbols 48 18372 4) (strings 32 79719 5965) (string-bytes 1 1927498) (vectors 16 57070) (vector-slots 8 892335 69394) (floats 8 440 234) (intervals 56 13373 1529) (buffers 984 44))
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