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emacs: rgrep does not work over tramp

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Package: guix; Reported by: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>; dated Wed, 31 Jan 2024 13:09:02 UTC; Maintainer for guix is bug-guix@HIDDEN.

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Thank you for your quick reply!

Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:

> Customizing `find-program' to just "find" and restarting Emacs does the
> trick.  So just sticking
>
>     (setopt find-program "find")
>
> into `init.el' should work.
>
> I played with it around for a bit but did not figure out how to
> customize it in already running Emacs.  I am sure it is possible, but I
> hit the self-imposed time limit before figuring it out.

Setting this variable fixes it and happily applied it locally.

I also get your point now too.  The path has been hard-coded at build
time.  Looking into the package declaration, it is not the only one
being modified.  This modification may seem reasonable when working
within an environment of Guix.  But it can become a disadvantage
when working on hosts that are sans Guix.

Also, how can this path to an application within the store work on a
remote system =E2=80=93 that may also have a Guix store =E2=80=93 when it d=
oes not
exist?  My guess here is, that tramp will call the application on remote
host it is working on.  Then it should also expect that path on the
remote store to exist too.

I can't deny that my Guix systems are not that much different to each
other.  They usually tend to have similar states of stores.  I can test
a scenario with an empty near clean store.


Kind regards

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Hello,

Simon Streit <simon@HIDDEN> writes:

> Is there maybe an easy way around this?  I tried:
>
> (connection-local-set-profile-variables
>  'remote-system
>  '((tramp-remote-path . ("/bin" "/usr/bin" "/sbin" "/usr/sbin" "/usr/loca=
l/bin" "/usr/local/sbin" "/local/bin"))))
> (connection-local-set-profiles
>  '(:application tramp :machine "host.example.com")
>  'remote-system)
>
> The connection will set the remote-path.  But rgrep will still invoke
> find from a path in /gnu/store.

Customizing `find-program' to just "find" and restarting Emacs does the
trick.  So just sticking

    (setopt find-program "find")

into `init.el' should work.

I played with it around for a bit but did not figure out how to
customize it in already running Emacs.  I am sure it is possible, but I
hit the self-imposed time limit before figuring it out.

Have a nice day,
Tomas

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Hello Tomas,

Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:

> when I try to execute rgrep over a tramp connection, I get the following error:
>
> /bin/sh: /gnu/store/sk8rxsrj3drr4arypicnhy899vgn3prr-findutils-4.9.0/bin/find: not found
>
> That is somewhat expected, since the remote machine is not a Guix one,
> but even if it were, it would require to have the find in exact same
> store path.

I am running into the same issue as well.  This is on a foreign system
using Emacs and Tramp trying to call find on remote hosts that are not
Guix.

> I understand the advantages of baking in the path to find into the
> configuration, but I wonder whether the trade-off is worth if for this
> particular case.  Setting it to just `find' seems to work fine, both
> locally and remotely (at the cost of a minuscule hit to
> reproducibility).

Is there maybe an easy way around this?  I tried:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(connection-local-set-profile-variables
 'remote-system
 '((tramp-remote-path . ("/bin" "/usr/bin" "/sbin" "/usr/sbin" "/usr/local/bin" "/usr/local/sbin" "/local/bin"))))
(connection-local-set-profiles
 '(:application tramp :machine "host.example.com")
 'remote-system)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The connection will set the remote-path.  But rgrep will still invoke
find from a path in /gnu/store.


Cheers

-- 
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:08:17 +0100
From: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
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Subject: emacs: rgrep does not work over tramp
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Hello,

when I try to execute rgrep over a tramp connection, I get the following error:

/bin/sh: /gnu/store/sk8rxsrj3drr4arypicnhy899vgn3prr-findutils-4.9.0/bin/find: not found

That is somewhat expected, since the remote machine is not a Guix one, but even
if it were, it would require to have the find in exact same store path.

I understand the advantages of baking in the path to find into the
configuration, but I wonder whether the trade-off is worth if for this
particular case.  Setting it to just `find' seems to work fine, both locally and
remotely (at the cost of a minuscule hit to reproducibility).

Have a nice day,
Tomas Volf

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