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Subject: bug#71856: 30.0.50; string-pad length vs width
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Package: Emacs
Version: 30.0.50


Is it just we or we should `s/length/width/` on the doc&code of
`string-pad`?  AFAIK counting codepoints rarely makes sense (unless
those code points have width==1, of course).

Same for `string-fill`.

I'd usually assume it was an oversight, but the doc keeps repeating
"length" enough times (and it's right next to `string-limit` which
insists it's about length).


        Stefan


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Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:

> Is it just we or we should `s/length/width/` on the doc&code of
> `string-pad`?  AFAIK counting codepoints rarely makes sense (unless
> those code points have width==1, of course).
>
> Same for `string-fill`.

I think that makes sense.

> I'd usually assume it was an oversight, but the doc keeps repeating
> "length" enough times (and it's right next to `string-limit` which
> insists it's about length).

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>> Is it just we or we should `s/length/width/` on the doc&code of
>> `string-pad`?  AFAIK counting codepoints rarely makes sense (unless
>> those code points have width==1, of course).
>> Same for `string-fill`.
> I think that makes sense.

Thanks.

>> I'd usually assume it was an oversight, but the doc keeps repeating
>> "length" enough times (and it's right next to `string-limit` which
>> insists it's about length).
>
> Could this have been an oversight there also?

No, this one is definitely done on purpose: for actual width, we already
have another function and `string-limit` explicitly refers to it.
[ Maybe the `coding-system` arg of `string-limit` should be mandatory,
  since it seems to be the most important use-case, tho.  ]


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> Cc: monnier@HIDDEN
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 11:37:41 -0400
> From:  Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> Is it just we or we should `s/length/width/` on the doc&code of
> `string-pad`?  AFAIK counting codepoints rarely makes sense (unless
> those code points have width==1, of course).

Probably.  But the issue is not just with width==1, it is also with
character compositions.  Patches using string-width instead of length
are welcome.

There's another issue here: string-width ignores some of the
display-related issues, so we should consider whether we should use
string-width or string-pixel-width here (or maybe have optional
behavior, controlled by the caller, to use either one, as each one has
its advantages and disadvantages).

> Same for `string-fill`.

No, this one uses fill-region, which already handles the width of
characters.  So I've now fixed the doc string and renamed the argument
to WIDTH on the emacs-30 branch.

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