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After seeing Gnus download mail from a POP3 server various times and the
progress report going over 100%, I decided to look into it and edited
the source so I'd get better logging of the fact. It doesn't happen at
all times. It's less than 50% of the times, say. But it's frequent
enough to make it easy to see it at work, though I haven't spotted what
exactly makes the problem happen.
Here's one instance.
Checking new news...
Reading active file via nnml...
Reading incoming mail from pop...
size 0, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 0KB (0%)
size 237, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 0KB (0%)
size 751, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 0KB (0%)
size 1777, total-size 80988
[...]
pop3 retrieved 80KB (99%)
size 81659, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 81KB (100%)
size 81865, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 81KB (101%)
size 83255, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 83KB (102%)
size 84645, total-size 80988
[...]
size 511138, total-size 80988
pop3 retrieved 511KB (631%)
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1799
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1800
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1801
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1802
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1803
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1804
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1805
Wrote c:/sys/emacs/usr/Mail/mail/misc/1806
nnml: Reading incoming mail (8 new)...done
--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
Here's the size on disk of each message downaloded:
--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
%ls -l | awk '$8 >= 1799 && $8 <= 1806 { total += $5; print; } \
END { print(total) }'
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 446971 2024-05-21 17:43 1799
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 8441 2024-05-21 17:43 1800
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 16925 2024-05-21 17:43 1801
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 20494 2024-05-21 17:43 1802
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6513 2024-05-21 17:43 1803
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 5688 2024-05-21 17:43 1804
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2925 2024-05-21 17:43 1805
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 4781 2024-05-21 17:43 1806
512738
--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
The total-size calculated by Gnus was 80988. Where did that number come
from? It seems to come from straight from the POP3 server, which in
this case it's the Gmail POP3 server. I managed to get a POP3 list
before downloading, here's what I find.
--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
+OK Gpop ready for requests from 34.197.192.71 o12mb164492058vst
+OK send PASS
+OK Welcome.
+OK 8 messages (80988 bytes)
1 20295
2 4583
3 20295
4 20295
5 2725
6 5487
7 2725
8 4583
.
+OK Farewell.
--8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
(You don't see my input in the POP3 session above. You only see the
output from the POP3 server. My input is authentication plus a LIST
command.)
I collected other instances of the problem as well, but they all seem to
have the same in common---the POP3 server seems to announce a total size
that doesn't match the fact (after downloading each message).
In other words, this doesn't look like a Gnus problem at all. I'm
reporting to this, however, because I'm a little bit curious as to is
the problem exactly. (You might easily know what explains this.)
It's very odd to me in the session above, we find 3 messages with
exactly the same size of 20295. There are two with 4583 bytes and there
are two with 2725 bytes. I'm not getting any repeated messages at all.
I would appreciate any analysis you might provide on this. Thank you.
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> In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
> of 2020-08-21 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> Repository revision: 86d8d76aa36037184db0b2897c434cdaab1a9ae8
> Repository branch: HEAD
> Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
> System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro N (v10.0.2009.19045.4291)
Are you constrained to use 27.1?
Have you tried to reproduce this bug in a more current version of Emacs?
(the latest release is 29.4)
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> > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
> > System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro N (v10.0.2009.19045.4291)
>
> Are you constrained to use 27.1?
>
> Have you tried to reproduce this bug in a more current version of Emacs?
> (the latest release is 29.4)
>
>
>
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> > Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> writes:
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I'll get to it as soon as possible.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:54=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
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> Ping! Ping! Can we please make some progress here?
>
> > Cc: 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:07:38 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> >
> > Ping!
> >
> > > Cc: 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 23:50:21 +0100
> > > From: Jeremy Bryant via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> > >
> > > Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> writes:
> > >
> > > > In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
> > > > of 2020-08-21 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> > > > Repository revision: 86d8d76aa36037184db0b2897c434cdaab1a9ae8
> > > > Repository branch: HEAD
> > > > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
> > > > System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro N (v10.0.2009.19045.42=
91)
> > >
> > > Are you constrained to use 27.1?
> > >
> > > Have you tried to reproduce this bug in a more current version of Ema=
cs?
> > > (the latest release is 29.4)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Any progress there?
> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:54:59 -0300
> Cc: jb@HIDDEN, 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> I'll get to it as soon as possible.
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:54 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >
> > Ping! Ping! Can we please make some progress here?
> >
> > > Cc: 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:07:38 +0300
> > > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
> > >
> > > Ping!
> > >
> > > > Cc: 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > > > Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 23:50:21 +0100
> > > > From: Jeremy Bryant via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> > > > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
> > > > > of 2020-08-21 built on CIRROCUMULUS
> > > > > Repository revision: 86d8d76aa36037184db0b2897c434cdaab1a9ae8
> > > > > Repository branch: HEAD
> > > > > Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
> > > > > System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro N (v10.0.2009.19045.4291)
> > > >
> > > > Are you constrained to use 27.1?
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried to reproduce this bug in a more current version of Emacs?
> > > > (the latest release is 29.4)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:53=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Any progress there?
I've the 29.3 set up and I have not yet managed to reproduce. I've
tested it three times already with a set of messages to be downloaded
that I would believe it would hit the problem. I'm going to try to
change my POP3 settings so that I can download the set of messages
from both versions 27.1 e 29.3 to see if I can compare. What I'm very
puzzled with is that I would not have thought that this is a Gnus
problem. It seemed clear to me that the POP3 server was reporting
incorrect results. Since I know very little about POP3 servers,
perhaps there's more to the story than I can see. If 29.3 solves the
problem, I'm going to upgrade. Sorry about the delay and thanks for
your assistance! I'll write again soon.
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On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:29=E2=80=AFPM Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:53=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrot=
e:
> > Any progress there?
>
> I've the 29.3 set up and I have not yet managed to reproduce.
Now I did. The problem happens in
GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2024-03-24
too. Here's what I found in the POP3 before fetching my mail.
+OK 69 messages (2041560 bytes)
1 1243
2 56203
3 5694
4 1858
5 8704
6 2264
7 1626
8 1626
9 1626
10 8704
11 15079
12 15079
13 15079
14 1858
15 6303
16 1303
17 1303
18 1858
19 8704
20 8704
21 8581
22 8704
23 8581
24 13969
25 13969
26 61517
27 9590
28 47193
29 61517
30 47193
31 13969
32 16591
33 1880
34 56203
35 16591
36 16591
37 61517
38 12830
39 56203
40 56203
41 13969
42 16591
43 16591
44 8581
45 1880
46 1880
47 56203
48 12830
49 8704
50 12830
51 61517
52 1880
53 6303
54 6303
55 61517
56 61517
57 61517
58 61517
59 61517
60 61517
61 9590
62 9590
63 237515
64 236784
65 56203
66 56203
67 56203
68 12830
69 17268
.
+OK Farewell.
If I sum the bytes of each message, I get
%awk '{ sum +=3D $2; } END { print(sum) }' pop3-list.txt
2041560
which is exactly the advertised total at the top. The Gmail POP3
makes minimum sense. And here's the log after having Gnus fetch all
the messages. (I couldn't keep the beginning lines because the
*messages* buffer erased them, but the log shows that Gnus is going
well beyond 100%.)
pop3 retrieved 6945KB (340%)
[...]
pop3 retrieved 9992KB (489%)
pop3 retrieved 10386KB (508%)
Saving file ~/.pop3-uidl...
Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/.pop3-uidl
Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/118
Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/119
[...]
Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/186
nnml: Reading incoming mail (69 new)...done
Reading active file via nnml...done
Checking new news...done
Here's a check of how much data I get after having written each
message to the file system.
%ls -l | awk '$8 >=3D 118 && $8 <=3D 186 { total +=3D $5; print; } END {
print(total) }'
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1472 2024-09-19 16:00 118
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 876549 2024-09-19 16:00 119
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 5925 2024-09-19 16:00 120
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 963 2024-09-19 16:00 121
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7307 2024-09-19 16:00 122
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2494 2024-09-19 16:00 123
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1459 2024-09-19 16:00 124
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7773 2024-09-19 16:00 125
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1855 2024-09-19 16:00 126
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2380 2024-09-19 16:00 127
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 573608 2024-09-19 16:00 128
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13685 2024-09-19 16:00 129
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 15324 2024-09-19 16:00 130
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7416 2024-09-19 16:00 131
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6056691 2024-09-19 16:00 132
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6596 2024-09-19 16:00 133
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1532 2024-09-19 16:00 134
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2088 2024-09-19 16:00 135
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9087 2024-09-19 16:00 136
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1398 2024-09-19 16:00 137
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 10892 2024-09-19 16:00 138
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7740 2024-09-19 16:00 139
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 3172 2024-09-19 16:00 140
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 14922 2024-09-19 16:00 141
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 15983 2024-09-19 16:00 142
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9209 2024-09-19 16:00 143
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 12690 2024-09-19 16:00 144
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 49851 2024-09-19 16:00 145
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 3123 2024-09-19 16:00 146
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 47433 2024-09-19 16:00 147
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13070 2024-09-19 16:00 148
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 186296 2024-09-19 16:00 149
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1108 2024-09-19 16:00 150
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 202280 2024-09-19 16:00 151
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 16064 2024-09-19 16:00 152
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 17431 2024-09-19 16:00 153
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 39122 2024-09-19 16:00 154
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 10617 2024-09-19 16:00 155
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 32890 2024-09-19 16:00 156
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 34388 2024-09-19 16:00 157
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 14204 2024-09-19 16:00 158
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 15540 2024-09-19 16:00 159
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 16822 2024-09-19 16:00 160
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 8825 2024-09-19 16:00 161
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6727 2024-09-19 16:00 162
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6521 2024-09-19 16:00 163
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 934797 2024-09-19 16:00 164
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 11879 2024-09-19 16:00 165
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 8935 2024-09-19 16:00 166
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 3363 2024-09-19 16:00 167
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 36427 2024-09-19 16:00 168
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2109 2024-09-19 16:00 169
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1886 2024-09-19 16:00 170
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6534 2024-09-19 16:00 171
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 46503 2024-09-19 16:00 172
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 44079 2024-09-19 16:00 173
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 54344 2024-09-19 16:00 174
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 52465 2024-09-19 16:00 175
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 62311 2024-09-19 16:00 176
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 61752 2024-09-19 16:00 177
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 8929 2024-09-19 16:00 178
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9823 2024-09-19 16:00 179
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 237754 2024-09-19 16:00 180
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 237022 2024-09-19 16:00 181
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 49595 2024-09-19 16:00 182
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 53055 2024-09-19 16:00 183
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 56433 2024-09-19 16:00 184
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13062 2024-09-19 16:00 185
-rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 17499 2024-09-19 16:00 186
10403078
I get a lot more data---10,403,078 bytes. So it makes me feel that
Gnus is not at fault here; that it's the POP3 server that sometimes
advertises a total amount, but ends up providing a lot more than the
advertised value. I wouldn't assume this is an obvious bug of any
POP3 server, but it's what the evidence seems to suggest---that the
Gmail POP3 server says one thing and does another.
(*) How I generated the log in *messages*
I added a (message "...") call to the procedure pop3-wait-for-messages.
(defun pop3-wait-for-messages (process count total-size start-point)
(while (> count 0)
(goto-char start-point)
(while (or (and (re-search-forward "^\\+OK" nil t)
(or (not total-size)
(re-search-forward "^\\.\r?\n" nil t)))
(re-search-forward "^-ERR " nil t))
(cl-decf count)
(setq start-point (point)))
(unless (memq (process-status process) '(open run))
(error "pop3 process died"))
(when total-size
(let ((size 0))
(goto-char (point-min))
(while (re-search-forward "^\\+OK.*\n" nil t)
(setq size (+ size (- (point))
(if (re-search-forward "^\\.\r?\n" nil 'move)
(match-beginning 0)
(point)))))
(message "pop3 retrieved %dKB (%d%%)"
(truncate (/ size 1000))
(truncate (* (/ (* size 1.0) total-size) 100)))))
(pop3-accept-process-output process))
start-point)
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> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 16:13:30 -0300
> Cc: jb@HIDDEN, 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:29 PM Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:53 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > > Any progress there?
> >
> > I've the 29.3 set up and I have not yet managed to reproduce.
>
> Now I did. The problem happens in
>
> GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2024-03-24
>
> too. Here's what I found in the POP3 before fetching my mail.
>
> +OK 69 messages (2041560 bytes)
> 1 1243
> 2 56203
> 3 5694
> 4 1858
> 5 8704
> 6 2264
> 7 1626
> 8 1626
> 9 1626
> 10 8704
> 11 15079
> 12 15079
> 13 15079
> 14 1858
> 15 6303
> 16 1303
> 17 1303
> 18 1858
> 19 8704
> 20 8704
> 21 8581
> 22 8704
> 23 8581
> 24 13969
> 25 13969
> 26 61517
> 27 9590
> 28 47193
> 29 61517
> 30 47193
> 31 13969
> 32 16591
> 33 1880
> 34 56203
> 35 16591
> 36 16591
> 37 61517
> 38 12830
> 39 56203
> 40 56203
> 41 13969
> 42 16591
> 43 16591
> 44 8581
> 45 1880
> 46 1880
> 47 56203
> 48 12830
> 49 8704
> 50 12830
> 51 61517
> 52 1880
> 53 6303
> 54 6303
> 55 61517
> 56 61517
> 57 61517
> 58 61517
> 59 61517
> 60 61517
> 61 9590
> 62 9590
> 63 237515
> 64 236784
> 65 56203
> 66 56203
> 67 56203
> 68 12830
> 69 17268
> .
> +OK Farewell.
>
> If I sum the bytes of each message, I get
>
> %awk '{ sum += $2; } END { print(sum) }' pop3-list.txt
> 2041560
>
> which is exactly the advertised total at the top. The Gmail POP3
> makes minimum sense. And here's the log after having Gnus fetch all
> the messages. (I couldn't keep the beginning lines because the
> *messages* buffer erased them, but the log shows that Gnus is going
> well beyond 100%.)
>
> pop3 retrieved 6945KB (340%)
> [...]
> pop3 retrieved 9992KB (489%)
> pop3 retrieved 10386KB (508%)
> Saving file ~/.pop3-uidl...
> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/.pop3-uidl
> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/118
> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/119
> [...]
> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/186
> nnml: Reading incoming mail (69 new)...done
> Reading active file via nnml...done
> Checking new news...done
>
> Here's a check of how much data I get after having written each
> message to the file system.
>
> %ls -l | awk '$8 >= 118 && $8 <= 186 { total += $5; print; } END {
> print(total) }'
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1472 2024-09-19 16:00 118
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 876549 2024-09-19 16:00 119
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 5925 2024-09-19 16:00 120
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 963 2024-09-19 16:00 121
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7307 2024-09-19 16:00 122
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2494 2024-09-19 16:00 123
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1459 2024-09-19 16:00 124
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7773 2024-09-19 16:00 125
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1855 2024-09-19 16:00 126
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2380 2024-09-19 16:00 127
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 573608 2024-09-19 16:00 128
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13685 2024-09-19 16:00 129
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 15324 2024-09-19 16:00 130
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7416 2024-09-19 16:00 131
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6056691 2024-09-19 16:00 132
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6596 2024-09-19 16:00 133
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1532 2024-09-19 16:00 134
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 2088 2024-09-19 16:00 135
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9087 2024-09-19 16:00 136
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1398 2024-09-19 16:00 137
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 10892 2024-09-19 16:00 138
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 7740 2024-09-19 16:00 139
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 3172 2024-09-19 16:00 140
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 14922 2024-09-19 16:00 141
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 15983 2024-09-19 16:00 142
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9209 2024-09-19 16:00 143
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 12690 2024-09-19 16:00 144
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 49851 2024-09-19 16:00 145
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 3123 2024-09-19 16:00 146
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 47433 2024-09-19 16:00 147
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13070 2024-09-19 16:00 148
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 186296 2024-09-19 16:00 149
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1108 2024-09-19 16:00 150
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> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 39122 2024-09-19 16:00 154
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 10617 2024-09-19 16:00 155
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> 10403078
>
> I get a lot more data---10,403,078 bytes. So it makes me feel that
> Gnus is not at fault here; that it's the POP3 server that sometimes
> advertises a total amount, but ends up providing a lot more than the
> advertised value. I wouldn't assume this is an obvious bug of any
> POP3 server, but it's what the evidence seems to suggest---that the
> Gmail POP3 server says one thing and does another.
I'm not an expert on POP3 protocol -- does it report bytes or
characters?
Also, do the files created by Gnus have Unix or DOS EOL format? If
the latter, could the difference be explained by the added CR
characters?
Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
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> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 12:48:10 -0300
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
> > with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
>
> Right now I can't see what can we do. By the way, this is not a bug
> report: Gnus doesn't appear to be at fault. This is a request for help:
> I'm puzzled. While the evidence is against the POP3 server, it's hard
> to think that a POP3 server would be shipped with such an obvious bug.
Maybe we have POP3 experts around that could chime on?
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 16:13:30 -0300
>> Cc: jb@HIDDEN, 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>=20
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 8:29=E2=80=AFPM Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN=
> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:53=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
>> > > Any progress there?
>> >
>> > I've the 29.3 set up and I have not yet managed to reproduce.
>>=20
>> Now I did. The problem happens in
>>=20
>> GNU Emacs 29.3 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2024-03-24
>>=20
>> too. Here's what I found in the POP3 before fetching my mail.
>>=20
>> +OK 69 messages (2041560 bytes)
>> 1 1243
>> 2 56203
>> 3 5694
>> 4 1858
>> 5 8704
>> 6 2264
>> 7 1626
>> 8 1626
>> 9 1626
>> 10 8704
>> 11 15079
>> 12 15079
>> 13 15079
>> 14 1858
>> 15 6303
>> 16 1303
>> 17 1303
>> 18 1858
>> 19 8704
>> 20 8704
>> 21 8581
>> 22 8704
>> 23 8581
>> 24 13969
>> 25 13969
>> 26 61517
>> 27 9590
>> 28 47193
>> 29 61517
>> 30 47193
>> 31 13969
>> 32 16591
>> 33 1880
>> 34 56203
>> 35 16591
>> 36 16591
>> 37 61517
>> 38 12830
>> 39 56203
>> 40 56203
>> 41 13969
>> 42 16591
>> 43 16591
>> 44 8581
>> 45 1880
>> 46 1880
>> 47 56203
>> 48 12830
>> 49 8704
>> 50 12830
>> 51 61517
>> 52 1880
>> 53 6303
>> 54 6303
>> 55 61517
>> 56 61517
>> 57 61517
>> 58 61517
>> 59 61517
>> 60 61517
>> 61 9590
>> 62 9590
>> 63 237515
>> 64 236784
>> 65 56203
>> 66 56203
>> 67 56203
>> 68 12830
>> 69 17268
>> .
>> +OK Farewell.
>>=20
>> If I sum the bytes of each message, I get
>>=20
>> %awk '{ sum +=3D $2; } END { print(sum) }' pop3-list.txt
>> 2041560
>>=20
>> which is exactly the advertised total at the top. The Gmail POP3
>> makes minimum sense. And here's the log after having Gnus fetch all
>> the messages. (I couldn't keep the beginning lines because the
>> *messages* buffer erased them, but the log shows that Gnus is going
>> well beyond 100%.)
>>=20
>> pop3 retrieved 6945KB (340%)
>> [...]
>> pop3 retrieved 9992KB (489%)
>> pop3 retrieved 10386KB (508%)
>> Saving file ~/.pop3-uidl...
>> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/.pop3-uidl
>> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/118
>> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/119
>> [...]
>> Wrote c:/Users/x/AppData/Roaming/Mail/mail/misc/186
>> nnml: Reading incoming mail (69 new)...done
>> Reading active file via nnml...done
>> Checking new news...done
>>=20
>> Here's a check of how much data I get after having written each
>> message to the file system.
>>=20
>> %ls -l | awk '$8 >=3D 118 && $8 <=3D 186 { total +=3D $5; print; } END {
>> print(total) }'
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1472 2024-09-19 16:00 118
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 876549 2024-09-19 16:00 119
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 5925 2024-09-19 16:00 120
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>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 1886 2024-09-19 16:00 170
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 6534 2024-09-19 16:00 171
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 46503 2024-09-19 16:00 172
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 44079 2024-09-19 16:00 173
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 54344 2024-09-19 16:00 174
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 52465 2024-09-19 16:00 175
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 62311 2024-09-19 16:00 176
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 61752 2024-09-19 16:00 177
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 8929 2024-09-19 16:00 178
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 9823 2024-09-19 16:00 179
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 237754 2024-09-19 16:00 180
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 237022 2024-09-19 16:00 181
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 49595 2024-09-19 16:00 182
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 53055 2024-09-19 16:00 183
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 56433 2024-09-19 16:00 184
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 13062 2024-09-19 16:00 185
>> -rw-rw-rw- 1 x None 17499 2024-09-19 16:00 186
>> 10403078
>>=20
>> I get a lot more data---10,403,078 bytes. So it makes me feel that
>> Gnus is not at fault here; that it's the POP3 server that sometimes
>> advertises a total amount, but ends up providing a lot more than the
>> advertised value. I wouldn't assume this is an obvious bug of any
>> POP3 server, but it's what the evidence seems to suggest---that the
>> Gmail POP3 server says one thing and does another.
>
> I'm not an expert on POP3 protocol -- does it report bytes or
> characters?
It says=20
+OK 69 messages (2041560 bytes)
when we issue the LIST command. For the number to the right of the
message index, I would think it's bytes as well: if I add each one of
those numbers, I end up with 2041560, which is the total byte amount
advertised in the +OK-line.
> Also, do the files created by Gnus have Unix or DOS EOL format?
> If the latter, could the difference be explained by the added CR
> characters?
Gnus might be even adding data to these messages such as headers---I
don't know. I would not expect to read the files on the file system and
find the same byte amount advertised by the POP3 server. However, the
report I gave previously shows a factor of 5 increase in the total byte
downloaded---we go from 2 MiB to 10 MiB---, so I would not think this is
a matter of added CR characters nor headers added by Gnus. (It's too
much extra data that's appearing from I don't know where.)
> Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
> with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
Right now I can't see what can we do. By the way, this is not a bug
report: Gnus doesn't appear to be at fault. This is a request for help:
I'm puzzled. While the evidence is against the POP3 server, it's hard
to think that a POP3 server would be shipped with such an obvious bug.
I'm going to compare the behavior using other e-mail clients. I need to
find one that lets me watch the download progress like Gnus does.
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>> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>, jb@HIDDEN,
>> 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 12:48:10 -0300
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
>> > with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
>>
>> Right now I can't see what can we do. By the way, this is not a bug
>> report: Gnus doesn't appear to be at fault. This is a request for help:
>> I'm puzzled. While the evidence is against the POP3 server, it's hard
>> to think that a POP3 server would be shipped with such an obvious bug.
>
> Maybe we have POP3 experts around that could chime on?
So is the conclusion here that this is not a bug in Emacs?
Should this bug report therefore be closed?
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Subject: bug#71893: 27.1; Gnus pop3 download progress goes over 100%
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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 17:48:43 -0800
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> >> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>, jb@HIDDEN,
> >> 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 12:48:10 -0300
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> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> >>
> >> > Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
> >> > with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
> >>
> >> Right now I can't see what can we do. By the way, this is not a bug
> >> report: Gnus doesn't appear to be at fault. This is a request for help:
> >> I'm puzzled. While the evidence is against the POP3 server, it's hard
> >> to think that a POP3 server would be shipped with such an obvious bug.
> >
> > Maybe we have POP3 experts around that could chime on?
>
> So is the conclusion here that this is not a bug in Emacs?
>
> Should this bug report therefore be closed?
I don't know enough about POP3 servers to tell, sorry.
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 17:48:43 -0800
>> Cc: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>, jb@HIDDEN,
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>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> >> From: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>
>> >> Cc: Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN>, jb@HIDDEN,
>> >> 71893 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
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>> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Eventually, if the problem is with the server, what do we want to do
>> >> > with this bug report? what _can_ we do?
>> >>
>> >> Right now I can't see what can we do. By the way, this is not a bug
>> >> report: Gnus doesn't appear to be at fault. This is a request for help:
>> >> I'm puzzled. While the evidence is against the POP3 server, it's hard
>> >> to think that a POP3 server would be shipped with such an obvious bug.
>> >
>> > Maybe we have POP3 experts around that could chime on?
>>
>> So is the conclusion here that this is not a bug in Emacs?
>>
>> Should this bug report therefore be closed?
>
> I don't know enough about POP3 servers to tell, sorry.
Neither do I. The evidence collected, everywhere I looked, points to a
flaw in Gmail's POP3 server. Unless someone has can advise differently,
I'd close this with the conclusion that Gmail's POP3 is flawed.
I appreciate the assistance. Thank you.
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tags 71893 notabug
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Daniel Bastos <dbastos@HIDDEN> writes:
> Neither do I. The evidence collected, everywhere I looked, points to a
> flaw in Gmail's POP3 server. Unless someone has can advise differently,
> I'd close this with the conclusion that Gmail's POP3 is flawed.
Thanks, I'm therefore closing this as notabug. Let's hope that other
people will find it if they search for this issue in the future.
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