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[185.216.177.71 listed in sa-accredit.habeas.com] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.2 INVALID_MSGID Message-Id is not valid, according to RFC 2822 X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73110 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 73110 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> writes: > Neither Eli or I proposed supporting this use case (using systemd as a > service without compiling with support for libsystemd) I didn't mean to say literally supporting but more like if there's a bug from such a use case than it shouldn't be worth investing time in. > I think it's perfectly valid to ask the user to compile Emacs with > libsystemd support for this to work. Thus, this is a documentation bug. Now looking at the service again made find the issue I think. The service uses 'Type=3Dnotify' which means that Emacs has to tell systemd that it is ready. To quote systemd.service(5): > Behavior of notify is similar to exec; however, it is > expected that the service sends a "READY=3D1" notification > message via sd_notify(3) or an equivalent call when it has > finished starting up. systemd will proceed with starting > follow-up units after this notification message has been > sent. If this option is used, NotifyAccess=3D (see below) > should be set to open access to the notification socket > provided by systemd. If NotifyAccess=3D is missing or set to > none, it will be forcibly set to main. > Systemd is able to manage many programs on my computer without them being > compiled with a special support for libsystemd, so I do not expect to > require a special additional library to get Emacs to work if the > documentation does not mention it. It is able to but if a program opts into systemd features such as notify it has to also support them. > Chapter 40 of the manual does not indicate that running Emacs as a server > is special non-core functionality, therefore as a user I assume that if > this functionality is not working then it is broken, not that I > misconfigured it at compile time. If this is supposed to be core > functionality then the build should fail loudly if the dependencies are n= ot > found at compile time unless the user supplies the --without-libsystemd > flag. The service file would have to use another Type such as 'exec' if not compiled with libsystemd support enabled during build. > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 7:26=E2=80=AFAM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaod= an.de> wrote: > >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> >> From: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> >> >> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400 >> >> >> >> I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. I >> >> followed the instructions here: >> >> >> >> >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.h= tml >> >> >> >> and ran the command >> >> systemctl --user enable emacs >> >> >> >> This apparently creates a file at >> >> ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service >> >> For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd th= at >> >> it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. >> > >> > According to this: >> > >> >> Configured features: >> >> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ >> >> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP >> >> NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TI= FF >> >> TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB >> > >> > your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is >> > required for this to work? Or maybe I'm missing something. >> >> I don't know exactly if libsystemd is required for the service to work, >> I think it shouldn't however, but why? >> Why would use the systemd user service but also not built with >> libsystemd? >> Even if there's something wrong why support such as usecase? >> PS: I'm not sure about if there's a netiquette on this list but top-posting and HTML mails are usually frowned upon.=20
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Thus, this is a documentation bug. Systemd is able to manage many programs on my computer without them being compiled with a special support for libsystemd, so I do not expect to require a special additional library to get Emacs to work if the documentation does not mention it. Chapter 40 of the manual does not indicate that running Emacs as a server is special non-core functionality, therefore as a user I assume that if this functionality is not working then it is broken, not that I misconfigured it at compile time. If this is supposed to be core functionality then the build should fail loudly if the dependencies are not found at compile time unless the user supplies the --without-libsystemd flag. Compare the chapter on images which warns the reader that external libraries must be available: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Image-Formats.htm= l Compare the chapter on tree sitter which alerts the reader that support for tree sitter must be compiled in: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs//manual/html_node/elisp/Parsing-Program-= Source.html On Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 7:26=E2=80=AFAM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan= .de> wrote: > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> From: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> > >> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400 > >> > >> I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. I > >> followed the instructions here: > >> > >> > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.ht= ml > >> > >> and ran the command > >> systemctl --user enable emacs > >> > >> This apparently creates a file at > >> ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service > >> For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd tha= t > >> it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. > > > > According to this: > > > >> Configured features: > >> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ > >> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP > >> NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIF= F > >> TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB > > > > your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is > > required for this to work? Or maybe I'm missing something. > > I don't know exactly if libsystemd is required for the service to work, > I think it shouldn't however, but why? > Why would use the systemd user service but also not built with > libsystemd? > Even if there's something wrong why support such as usecase? > --000000000000332aa306245d94a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">Neither Eli or I proposed supporting this = use case (using systemd as a service without compiling with support for lib= systemd)<br> I think it's perfectly valid to ask the user to compile Emacs with libs= ystemd support for this to work. Thus, this is a documentation bug.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">Systemd is able to manage many programs on my computer witho= ut them being compiled with a special support for libsystemd, so I do not e= xpect to require a special additional library to get Emacs to work if the d= ocumentation does not mention it.=C2=A0</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Chapter 40 of the= manual does not indicate that running Emacs as a server is special non-cor= e functionality, therefore as a user I assume that if this functionality is= not working then it is broken, not that I misconfigured it at compile time= . If this is supposed to be core functionality then the build should fail l= oudly if the dependencies are not found at compile time unless the user sup= plies the --without-libsystemd flag.</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Compare the chapter = on images which warns the reader that external libraries must be available:= </p><p dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/htm= l_node/elisp/Image-Formats.html">https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/= html_node/elisp/Image-Formats.html</a></p><p dir=3D"ltr">Compare the chapte= r on tree sitter which alerts the reader that support for tree sitter must = be compiled in:</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software/e= macs//manual/html_node/elisp/Parsing-Program-Source.html">https://www.gnu.o= rg/software/emacs//manual/html_node/elisp/Parsing-Program-Source.html</a></= p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr= ">On Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 7:26=E2=80=AFAM Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <<a href=3D"mai= lto:bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN">bjorn.bidar@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div>= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@gnu= .org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br> <br> >> From: Patrick Nicodemus <<a href=3D"mailto:gadget142@HIDDEN"= target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gadget142@HIDDEN</a>><br> >> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400<br> >> <br> >> I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. = I<br> >> followed the instructions here:<br> >> <br> >> <a href=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/ema= cs/Emacs-Server.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https= ://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html</a><= br> >> <br> >> and ran the command<br> >> systemctl --user enable emacs<br> >> <br> >> This apparently creates a file at<br> >> ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service<br> >> For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd= that<br> >> it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs.<br> ><br> > According to this:<br> ><br> >> Configured features:<br> >> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ<br> >> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP= <br> >> NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS= TIFF<br> >> TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB<br> ><br> > your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is<br> > required for this to work?=C2=A0 Or maybe I'm missing something.<b= r> <br> I don't know exactly if libsystemd is required for the service to work,= <br> I think it shouldn't however, but why?<br> Why would use the systemd user service but also not built with<br> libsystemd?<br> Even if there's something wrong why support such as usecase?<br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000332aa306245d94a2--
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[185.216.177.71 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] 1.2 INVALID_MSGID Message-Id is not valid, according to RFC 2822 X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73110 Cc: 73110 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> >> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400 >> >> I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. I >> followed the instructions here: >> >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html >> >> and ran the command >> systemctl --user enable emacs >> >> This apparently creates a file at >> ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service >> For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd that >> it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. > > According to this: > >> Configured features: >> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ >> IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP >> NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF >> TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB > > your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is > required for this to work? Or maybe I'm missing something. I don't know exactly if libsystemd is required for the service to work, I think it shouldn't however, but why? Why would use the systemd user service but also not built with libsystemd? Even if there's something wrong why support such as usecase?
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Patrick, could you please respond and confirm that this issue is because of how you built your Emacs? > Cc: 73110 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2024 20:45:23 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > > From: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400 > > > > I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. I > > followed the instructions here: > > > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html > > > > and ran the command > > systemctl --user enable emacs > > > > This apparently creates a file at > > ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service > > > > whose contents are: > > > > [Unit] > > Description=Emacs text editor > > Documentation=info:emacs man:emacs(1) https://gnu.org/software/emacs/ > > > > [Service] > > Type=notify > > ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/emacs --fg-daemon > > > > # Emacs will exit with status 15 after having received SIGTERM, which > > # is the default "KillSignal" value systemd uses to stop services. > > SuccessExitStatus=15 > > > > # The location of the SSH auth socket varies by distribution, and some > > # set it from PAM, so don't override by default. > > # Environment=SSH_AUTH_SOCK=%t/keyring/ssh > > Restart=on-failure > > > > [Install] > > WantedBy=default.target > > > > The directions also say: > > (If your Emacs was installed into a non-standard location, you may need > > to copy the emacs.service file to a standard directory such as > > ~/.config/systemd/user/.) > > > > I built this emacs distribution from source and installed it using "sudo > > make install"; the executable is at /usr/local/bin/emacs, so I don't > > think it is installed in a non-standard location, and so I did not > > follow these instructions. > > > > I modified the [Service] command above to include the -Q flag for the > > purposes of this bug report. > > > > After activating the service, restarting, etc., my journalctl output is > > as follows: > > > > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. > > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183514]: > > Starting Emacs daemon. > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 2. > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183623]: > > Starting Emacs daemon. > > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 3. > > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183684]: > > Starting Emacs daemon. > > > > etc., etc., every ninety seconds. > > > > For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd that > > it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. > > According to this: > > > Configured features: > > ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ > > IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP > > NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF > > TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB > > your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is > required for this to work? Or maybe I'm missing something. > > > >
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#73110; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 73110) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2024 17:46:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 07 13:46:13 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1smzVk-0002Jg-Tw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2024 13:46:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46790) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1smzVi-0002JR-Qv for 73110 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2024 13:46:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1smzVc-000050-97; Sat, 07 Sep 2024 13:46:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Dlk30ACYWy5jGH9MLnB2yzkv/iHblMwJpSAmuDY6Qwc=; b=H43dFYcAD9lO WafK8V1pJ/yATfk/JAvvmQDAasJBAFVWaqfzNfxGJcqaBv9LIMt8YBohNiCHat0/tN0eYEq9nIiUz QREpoIC0O+KpTFNMbhiFKbxnufrsGgWeD7CQOK4hg7bWD8Xno8ZGslYIeOpQBgwZ/Wcj5twaqmCC2 5nDXc7tjLpYcD/pwaYPNLvInQXoHr97MRd1R5IJJDxsn4vRaUSuC4bd81sDN+DKIgF35Zk0eDWSfu 9T827JrBLeJ7RdySP4+fni+3SRvW+b/XdgPFDpckarRHZfOPMkMvT0NM9leoTXvRVuxMq03mGFvLR c8UuHojE0CLq7JDeYFXLCA==; Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2024 20:45:23 +0300 Message-Id: <86zfojwe6k.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADZEZBbJ9qFM4yV9ixqx1=xf8vjML2q04sXqvAkAcemWMTQAVg@HIDDEN> (message from Patrick Nicodemus on Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#73110: 29.4; emacs.service failed with result 'timeout' References: <CADZEZBbJ9qFM4yV9ixqx1=xf8vjML2q04sXqvAkAcemWMTQAVg@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73110 Cc: 73110 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN> > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:22:30 -0400 > > I want to run Emacs as a service and connect to it with a client. I > followed the instructions here: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html > > and ran the command > systemctl --user enable emacs > > This apparently creates a file at > ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service > > whose contents are: > > [Unit] > Description=Emacs text editor > Documentation=info:emacs man:emacs(1) https://gnu.org/software/emacs/ > > [Service] > Type=notify > ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/emacs --fg-daemon > > # Emacs will exit with status 15 after having received SIGTERM, which > # is the default "KillSignal" value systemd uses to stop services. > SuccessExitStatus=15 > > # The location of the SSH auth socket varies by distribution, and some > # set it from PAM, so don't override by default. > # Environment=SSH_AUTH_SOCK=%t/keyring/ssh > Restart=on-failure > > [Install] > WantedBy=default.target > > The directions also say: > (If your Emacs was installed into a non-standard location, you may need > to copy the emacs.service file to a standard directory such as > ~/.config/systemd/user/.) > > I built this emacs distribution from source and installed it using "sudo > make install"; the executable is at /usr/local/bin/emacs, so I don't > think it is installed in a non-standard location, and so I did not > follow these instructions. > > I modified the [Service] command above to include the -Q flag for the > purposes of this bug report. > > After activating the service, restarting, etc., my journalctl output is > as follows: > > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183514]: > Starting Emacs daemon. > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 2. > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183623]: > Starting Emacs daemon. > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. > Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 3. > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: > Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... > Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183684]: > Starting Emacs daemon. > > etc., etc., every ninety seconds. > > For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd that > it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. According to this: > Configured features: > ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ > IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP > NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF > TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB your Emacs is built without libsystemd support, which I think is required for this to work? Or maybe I'm missing something.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#73110; Package emacs.
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I followed the instructions here: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Emacs-Server.html and ran the command systemctl --user enable emacs This apparently creates a file at ~/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/emacs.service whose contents are: [Unit] Description=Emacs text editor Documentation=info:emacs man:emacs(1) https://gnu.org/software/emacs/ [Service] Type=notify ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/emacs --fg-daemon # Emacs will exit with status 15 after having received SIGTERM, which # is the default "KillSignal" value systemd uses to stop services. SuccessExitStatus=15 # The location of the SSH auth socket varies by distribution, and some # set it from PAM, so don't override by default. # Environment=SSH_AUTH_SOCK=%t/keyring/ssh Restart=on-failure [Install] WantedBy=default.target The directions also say: (If your Emacs was installed into a non-standard location, you may need to copy the emacs.service file to a standard directory such as ~/.config/systemd/user/.) I built this emacs distribution from source and installed it using "sudo make install"; the executable is at /usr/local/bin/emacs, so I don't think it is installed in a non-standard location, and so I did not follow these instructions. I modified the [Service] command above to include the -Q flag for the purposes of this bug report. After activating the service, restarting, etc., my journalctl output is as follows: Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Sep 07 12:52:45 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... Sep 07 12:52:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183514]: Starting Emacs daemon. Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 2. Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... Sep 07 12:54:16 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183623]: Starting Emacs daemon. Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Sep 07 12:55:46 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Failed to start emacs.service - Emacs text editor. Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: emacs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 3. Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 systemd[2704]: Starting emacs.service - Emacs text editor... Sep 07 12:55:47 patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 emacs[183684]: Starting Emacs daemon. etc., etc., every ninety seconds. For some reason emacs is not successfully communicating to systemd that it has launched successfully, and so systemd terminates emacs. In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-08-30 built on patrick-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-10 System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS Configured using: 'configure --with-native-compilation=aot --with-tree-sitter --with-gif --with-png --with-jpeg --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-pgtk --with-imagemagick --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xwidgets' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr misearch multi-isearch emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs comp comp-cstr warnings icons subr-x rx cl-seq cl-macs gv cl-extra help-mode bytecomp byte-compile cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads xwidget-internal dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 77452 8067) (symbols 48 7163 0) (strings 32 19673 2120) (string-bytes 1 600176) (vectors 16 15676) (vector-slots 8 327945 14726) (floats 8 44 40) (intervals 56 233 0) (buffers 984 12))
Patrick Nicodemus <gadget142@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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