Received: (at 73207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2024 12:18:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 14 08:18:35 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45043 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1spRjX-0001yD-6N for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:18:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1spRjV-0001xv-Ne for 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:18:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1spRjD-0002Ev-Lk; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:18:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3ApCJDAU0oKcTtdz0YcmUQVm6ybdrhLyH13oHYC4Km0=; b=bl2dW8VKQO7O m/cJRlWAGMim+ww7UWGnBvxmQdg+OP7lS/5fzFH1jT7C/3sY5a61iMp1nWRXfov7e+31Pzpm3SVVt o8EmqDlR5fExBmYhS5Ji73RHBWoBP3BlQYyYfjd3g4ONhwiqR2tFWn1LpJHtpw+n3+UOM9f3s0Hmz iGYIOM8tIBGDbafZDgi4UuigrBP46aRVWJOw2mxf0yWDLPzsJCCMk8hGuRDVHNPK34rrwZ00H5sUw 00O+E1Q2wSxItW6zhYr1jstnmQFWOWE/K6yew4qsZdyiWrKPt4aCyum8harwybLKmUpBdV551aWtP yu4WH8E5fT8ucVT28xk1bg==; Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:18:13 +0300 Message-Id: <86zfoafmyi.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87cyl6phdi.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:08:41 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#73207: 31.0.50; On PGTK frame outer-position and frame-monitor-workarea wrong. References: <yg5o74s688r.fsf@HIDDEN> <868qvuh4wh.fsf@HIDDEN> <87cyl6phdi.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73207 Cc: 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, koppel@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> > Cc: David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN>, 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:08:41 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> From: David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN> > >> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:24:04 -0500 > >> > >> In a PGTK build of Emacs running on KDE Wayland (versions are below) the > >> position of a frame and the size of the workarea are wrong. These work > >> correctly in non-PGTK builds. For example, (frame-edges nil > >> 'outer-edges) returns (0 0 752 840), even though the top-left of the > >> frame is not over pixel 0,0. In a call to (frame-monitor-attributes) the > >> geometry and workarea dimensions are the same. The workarea is correctly > >> reported as smaller in non-PGTK builds. > >> > >> I'd prefer that these be fixed, but if not they ought to be documented > >> in etc/PROBLEMS. > > > > Po Lu, any comments? > > > > ISTR that we already know about this issue, but for some reason I > > cannot find it in PROBLEMS or anywhere else. What did I miss? > > It's impossible to extract these values on Wayland because the protocol > is engineered to withhold them from programs. There are entries for > similar protocol limitations in etc/PROBLEMS (e.g. warping or locating > the mouse pointer), but not the unavailability of frame geometry or > workspace dimensions. Can you please add this to PROBLEMS on the release branch?
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In-Reply-To: <868qvuh4wh.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 14 Sep 2024 14:05:18 +0300") References: <yg5o74s688r.fsf@HIDDEN> <868qvuh4wh.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:08:41 +0800 Message-ID: <87cyl6phdi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22645 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1170 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73207 Cc: 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> From: David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN> >> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:24:04 -0500 >> >> In a PGTK build of Emacs running on KDE Wayland (versions are below) the >> position of a frame and the size of the workarea are wrong. These work >> correctly in non-PGTK builds. For example, (frame-edges nil >> 'outer-edges) returns (0 0 752 840), even though the top-left of the >> frame is not over pixel 0,0. In a call to (frame-monitor-attributes) the >> geometry and workarea dimensions are the same. The workarea is correctly >> reported as smaller in non-PGTK builds. >> >> I'd prefer that these be fixed, but if not they ought to be documented >> in etc/PROBLEMS. > > Po Lu, any comments? > > ISTR that we already know about this issue, but for some reason I > cannot find it in PROBLEMS or anywhere else. What did I miss? It's impossible to extract these values on Wayland because the protocol is engineered to withhold them from programs. There are entries for similar protocol limitations in etc/PROBLEMS (e.g. warping or locating the mouse pointer), but not the unavailability of frame geometry or workspace dimensions.
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Full text available.Received: (at 73207) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2024 11:05:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 14 07:05:41 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1spQaz-0006IC-Jv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 07:05:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1spQax-0006Hp-UF for 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 07:05:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1spQaf-0002Hr-RF; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 07:05:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=z7t08L9PBlaWdYdNi/eC5+3FcmuULpoxVyhYcXcYj3Q=; b=SQkPtjmjHXiR 0FWUnFnmpngU0/PKKMygQ2HTbU9T9jZKIaMJqCvTVMaLnaG2vDspsVRYYTmCrC30q0Sok+HrH32ra l7tSOCb5kFpqo93u5I6DDOjeWRpF5PLKnYozv22v3X7XnKiPvXAp9MLNaGDI0JRM5hJlyQcN7SRF9 uwCeySrEjIJFRXHG8ryTJfHrT8a8wblhIgaep4eoWIL/JAdIDAEuGY7Ti3z/cPq5Yl17WMrmGXGxi T0NTZ9YPa77+2TzSgY5LgBUZslKXk+vJowd+nOLJ8Qivl9TofpYazYiVxv32xOwhTJxRxp8eTf4No 9RNCIBUKZy3QJzlihvM9Eg==; Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 14:05:18 +0300 Message-Id: <868qvuh4wh.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN>, Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <yg5o74s688r.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from David Koppelman on Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:24:04 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#73207: 31.0.50; On PGTK frame outer-position and frame-monitor-workarea wrong. References: <yg5o74s688r.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73207 Cc: 73207 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: David Koppelman <koppel@HIDDEN> > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:24:04 -0500 > > In a PGTK build of Emacs running on KDE Wayland (versions are below) the > position of a frame and the size of the workarea are wrong. These work > correctly in non-PGTK builds. For example, (frame-edges nil > 'outer-edges) returns (0 0 752 840), even though the top-left of the > frame is not over pixel 0,0. In a call to (frame-monitor-attributes) the > geometry and workarea dimensions are the same. The workarea is correctly > reported as smaller in non-PGTK builds. > > I'd prefer that these be fixed, but if not they ought to be documented > in etc/PROBLEMS. Po Lu, any comments? ISTR that we already know about this issue, but for some reason I cannot find it in PROBLEMS or anywhere else. What did I miss?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#73207; Package emacs.
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <yg5o74s688r.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.39.6.157; envelope-from=eekopp@HIDDEN; helo=relay.lsu.edu X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) In a PGTK build of Emacs running on KDE Wayland (versions are below) the position of a frame and the size of the workarea are wrong. These work correctly in non-PGTK builds. For example, (frame-edges nil 'outer-edges) returns (0 0 752 840), even though the top-left of the frame is not over pixel 0,0. In a call to (frame-monitor-attributes) the geometry and workarea dimensions are the same. The workarea is correctly reported as smaller in non-PGTK builds. I'd prefer that these be fixed, but if not they ought to be documented in etc/PROBLEMS. In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-09-08 built on dmk-laptop-23 Repository revision: 4073c624376148d469a27a7c487a9b2f49d5352a Repository branch: master System Description: Fedora Linux 41 (KDE Plasma Prerelease) Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native' --without-pop --with-native-compilation --with-pgtk' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_MONETARY: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: global-hi-lock-mode: t hi-lock-mode: t which-function-mode: t global-ligature-mode: t ligature-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t isearch-fold-quotes-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: The problem occurs with a -Q run, no need for my load path details. 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