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Hello,

I've been using 'mumi send-email', and one annoyance is that it doesn't
seem to reliably (or at all?) detect the created issue in the tracker,
even after the issue was synced to the MUMI database and visible through
the web interface.

For example, the issue https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74394 took about 3
minutes to be processed by GNU Debbugs and was available in the web
interface of Mumi, while the 'mumi send-email' client kept printing:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 14 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 13 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 12 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 11 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 10 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 9 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 8 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 7 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 6 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 5 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 4 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 3 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 2 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 1 retries remaining.
Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 0 retries remaining.
Mail not acknowledged by issue tracker. Giving up.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

It'd be nice to investigate and fix that.

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Thanks,
Maxim




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Hi,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I've been using 'mumi send-email', and one annoyance is that it doesn't
> seem to reliably (or at all?) detect the created issue in the tracker,
> even after the issue was synced to the MUMI database and visible through
> the web interface.
>
> For example, the issue https://issues.guix.gnu.org/74394 took about 3
> minutes to be processed by GNU Debbugs and was available in the web
> interface of Mumi, while the 'mumi send-email' client kept printing:
>
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 14 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 13 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 12 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 11 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 10 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 9 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 8 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 7 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 6 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 5 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 4 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 3 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 2 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 1 retries remaining.
> Server has not yet received our email. Will retry in 60 seconds. 0 retries remaining.
> Mail not acknowledged by issue tracker. Giving up.
>
> It'd be nice to investigate and fix that.

The reason is that mumi on the server side attempts to reindex the
complete 20 GiB something of mail archives every 5 minutes, which takes
20 minutes to complete.

We need a finer grained mechanism to process only newly added mails and
avoid doing a full reindex, which is too costly.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim




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Hi Maxim,

> The reason is that mumi on the server side attempts to reindex the
> complete 20 GiB something of mail archives every 5 minutes, which takes
> 20 minutes to complete.
>
> We need a finer grained mechanism to process only newly added mails and
> avoid doing a full reindex, which is too costly.

Thanks for investigating this. I've been thinking along the same lines
as well. I can come up with something, but do you have any suggestions
off the bat?

Regards,
Arun




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> I can come up with something, but do you have any suggestions off the
> bat?

My first instinct would be to look at the timestamps of changed log
files and only reindex those. Maybe that could work. Do you wish to work
on this, or do you prefer I did it? Let me know.

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Hi Arun,

Arun Isaac <arunisaac@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
>> The reason is that mumi on the server side attempts to reindex the
>> complete 20 GiB something of mail archives every 5 minutes, which takes
>> 20 minutes to complete.
>>
>> We need a finer grained mechanism to process only newly added mails and
>> avoid doing a full reindex, which is too costly.
>
> Thanks for investigating this. I've been thinking along the same lines
> as well. I can come up with something, but do you have any suggestions
> off the bat?

There's already some code to avoid doing a full re-indexing of the
archived messages, but it wasn't actually used until commit 0e8852b3
("scripts: Do not loose arguments when looping in `update-state!'.") in
mumi, which is recent.

I think reconfiguring mumi at its latest commit could already help,
although the update-state! code currently will run a full update every
10 times, and it's currently configured to run every 30 seconds although
our rsync of debbugs data is every 5 minutes.

We'll have to tweak these values so that a full reindex doesn't happen
so often (perhaps once per day would be sufficient).  The rsync could be
made a bit more aggressively (every minute perhaps) to help reactivity.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim




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Hi Arun,

Arun Isaac <arunisaac@HIDDEN> writes:

>> I can come up with something, but do you have any suggestions off the
>> bat?
>
> My first instinct would be to look at the timestamps of changed log
> files and only reindex those. Maybe that could work. Do you wish to work
> on this, or do you prefer I did it? Let me know.

It sounds like a fun fix to come up with, but I'm already swamped trying
ot finish tens of unfinished things, so by all means, go ahead if you
have time/interest in fixing it!

Some thoughts I had:

Not sure if rsync produces some kind of lock file while they're busy
updating the tree; if they do it could be useful to avoid re-indexing
while it's actively syncing.

It would be even nicer to send some signal to mumi when rsync completes,
which would notify it to re-index.

Other things that may be useful: inotify to keep track of new/updated
files.

Happy hacking!

-- 
Maxim




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# Merge with "mumi send-email does not work reliably"
merge 74395 70879
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> It sounds like a fun fix to come up with, but I'm already swamped trying
> ot finish tens of unfinished things, so by all means, go ahead if you
> have time/interest in fixing it!

Sure, happy to work on this! I have some spare capacity at the moment
and this is very important to make `mumi send-email' more usable.

> Some thoughts I had:
>
> Not sure if rsync produces some kind of lock file while they're busy
> updating the tree; if they do it could be useful to avoid re-indexing
> while it's actively syncing.
>
> It would be even nicer to send some signal to mumi when rsync completes,
> which would notify it to re-index.
>
> Other things that may be useful: inotify to keep track of new/updated
> files.

All good leads to look into. Thanks! Will keep you posted here.





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