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Full text available.Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 18:42:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 08 13:42:51 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48990 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tVb11-000347-Es for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVb10-00033o-13 for 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVb0t-0005KM-NH; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=uJ2sP+pq9lhAnlzDGrvhOUlaPyFxia3TgQPumJOL3bM=; b=cRUF+s+1pWeDFaCu3dyX ufkrJ72PR+Ka6J2tfAk4jiXAdbyiitlv2E5gDTddXKPMKZLJ/WVkOUrTsgG8+dtAI1Yc7alJ9aIqb V0B7XeLuxg4x5n1Z/6B+CDnxGO/R7G1/u12V8Vbc15qXwugb/W0CC3exAV34JLnBwDwejjVBz+r9P Aezb/QpmquRd0YIWnB3KIZmF/qH7JMTYqk5urud9imL9TSeJR/0dCdzQjkFxpfW83FfiveDBDilX/ fr1h++mV6Zzoff7WXzP2/3er0Uo2gp8gQlG1gNsvUGsTWGguX8HM+TLtj6gTQnx4vj6VqeBiajC0N aF6C3R4Sb8oV9w==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 20:42:39 +0200 Message-Id: <86plkx2lls.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Andreas Schwab on Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@HIDDEN> <86tta92uid.fsf@HIDDEN> <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75397 Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> > Cc: ndobrynin@HIDDEN, 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 > > On Jan 08 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > >> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> > >> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 > >> > >> On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > >> > >> > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > >> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > >> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > >> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > >> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > >> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > >> > > >> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > >> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > >> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. > >> > >> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it > >> saves it. > > > > I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you > > describe above: > > It is about MIME encoding. > > > (defun message-dont-send () > > "Don't send the message you have been editing. > > Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." > > (interactive nil message-mode) > > (set-buffer-modified-p t) > > (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) > > (message-bury (current-buffer)) > > (message-do-actions actions))) > > This just saves the raw buffer contents, but > gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC2822 mail, > with suitable MIME headers. OK, but then where is it documented that "S D e" in Gnus Summary is supposed to read the draft saved by "C-c C-d" in the mail buffer? Could it be that these two are not supposed to work together? The node "Drafts" in the Gnus manual describesa different procedure. If I follow it, then after typing "D e" in the nndraft:drafts group, I get placed in the *unsent mail* buffer with the correct Cyrillic text. Nickolai, did you try to use these different commands in your scenario?
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GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) In-Reply-To: <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@HIDDEN> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100") References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@HIDDEN> <86tta92uid.fsf@HIDDEN> <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 18:12:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87y0zlfcvz.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75397 Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@HIDDEN, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k= .org> said: Andreas> On Jan 08 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >>> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> >>> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: >>>=20 >>> > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. >>> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. >>> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e.= =D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4. >>> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. >>> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. >>> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4",= you will see a sequence of digits "01234". >>> > >>> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary= text >>> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft >>> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. >>>=20 >>> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message wh= en it >>> saves it. >>=20 >> I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you >> describe above: Andreas> It is about MIME encoding. >> (defun message-dont-send () >> "Don't send the message you have been editing. >> Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." >> (interactive nil message-mode) >> (set-buffer-modified-p t) >> (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) >> (message-bury (current-buffer)) >> (message-do-actions actions))) Andreas> This just saves the raw buffer contents, but Andreas> gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC= 2822 mail, Andreas> with suitable MIME headers. Yes. Which is why the command to edit an unsent draft is 'e' (or 'D e'). Robert --=20
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Full text available.Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 15:30:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 08 10:30:31 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tVY0t-0000f9-46 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVY0r-0000eo-8i for 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVY0l-0008Q4-Dg; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ryDsqYkjBoF7WLZR1WsqS4Z53ZQkY/oI0OQpkMn6Uo4=; b=Z5Hz2lLjSEYRA2LbBPmS KZrz5spGY4YGfe6s3S+GbPv032mjoaAZUQpYAj4a3zgBHBwkvuQ7vp3hWsPF7qsfVb0+M6rsc9P1D o4bxe1H5z6VCv3VGHJpbzIfzS8QQl1vqbcHLlmeLXcATX0BnY4ziIJVikOwdidEzRd1vo479ONB4K 2YLjPOq2MH0IEzcQJt7qv9f3OR5w7IE4fqlBaY8x9kvhlv30Fk5drbzOMEgMRIeEH/X1f4BiWl8DH que5IGhYVift1GiMSJ7Wqd54fH8oDoZgPvXtGYCfJUS9USjDXvPfiJ9lf/PJWRVu3UifszD3J9I93 0yMt0JiGhTCXQg==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:30:18 +0200 Message-Id: <86tta92uid.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87ldvo9tct.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Andreas Schwab on Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75397 Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 > > On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > > > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > > > > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. > > The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it > saves it. I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you describe above: (defun message-dont-send () "Don't send the message you have been editing. Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." (interactive nil message-mode) (set-buffer-modified-p t) (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) (message-bury (current-buffer)) (message-do-actions actions))) So message-dont-send saves the buffer. And that buffer has a buffer-file-coding-system set in message-set-auto-save-file-name, which is called when message-mode is turned on (which is supposed to happen when you press 'm' in Gnus): (setq buffer-file-coding-system message-draft-coding-system))) And message-draft-coding-system is: (defvar message-draft-coding-system mm-auto-save-coding-system "Coding system to compose mail.") which in my testing, starting from "emacs -Q", produces utf-8-emacs, as I'd expect. In my testing, the draft is saved using utf-8-emacs, and if I them visit it, I get the Cyrillic text back. As expected. So where does the above breaks? Is the value of mm-auto-save-coding-system different? Otherwise, save-buffer should have encoded the draft's text. What did I miss?
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Full text available.Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 12:47:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 08 07:47:34 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tVVTC-0000wA-LL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVVT8-0000vk-Ct for 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tVVT3-0002tW-0Q; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SerBoH7uVCRznT1ETCbBVVKD25aPNIUyHhvQjY+8m1U=; b=oBY3iO/N/KlF JigLPp5MecCNwXjmXzxcLrFHXKBPoREvDlt7EdUXl7QgLvnWh5zDM/DRQ7UTnpeKkWDvq4GSECoEq eJCtD9OSiI4VOAgLy6JuTSEuPmTRqdP4ZkiP2GKQj/PBS8CJbeeylmasL4wxkfBfCPEINheIExk2F 9G7IlvAombZDPT3TnxKZy1zsSDlYP8VUqcjsizYnxhaz7j7EcDpbtUyuybcp332MuSz5btjsZhwwx TFN+pl7Wdl7xjr8826i4hCTPOwANvDxfpXPcGdyDwkJB6/oHYl6R/kEqDypHrSP1zriDJm7+iEU7l tjVzE9Qvp/jJHkJtiJdvyQ==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 14:47:22 +0200 Message-Id: <868qrl4gmd.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: "Nickolai Dobrynin" <ndobrynin@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8734hulcf6.fsf@HIDDEN> (ndobrynin@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@HIDDEN> <8734hulcf6.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75397 Cc: 75397 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" <ndobrynin@HIDDEN> > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:13:49 +0100 > > 1. Can you suggest a workaround for this? > > 2. For clarity's sake, would it be better to change the title of the > bug report to, e.g., "messages get corrupted after being saved to "drafts" b/c > message-dont-send doesn't encode them before saving"? This would > probably summarize the problem much better to the rest of the Emacs team. No need. The Emacs team, such as it is, took good note of your report, and will investigate the ways to fix this soon. At that time, we may have suggestions for workarounds or patches for fixing the problem. It's just that we didn't have yet time to do so. For now, the only workaround to try I can suggest is to explicitly bind the coding-system while saving the draft, like this: C-x RET c utf-8-emacs RET C-c C-d If after that "S D e" doesn't restore the original Cyrillic text, try this instead: C-x RET c utf-8-emacs RET S D e P.S. Please don't change the Subject line when you respond to messages in this thread: it makes it a bit harder to find the previous/next messages when reading the discussions. I've restored the original Subject on my response.
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[2003:ea:ef12:6074:cfb3:1799:d18a:4eca]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-aac0f014538sm2197105566b.146.2025.01.05.16.49.38 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 05 Jan 2025 16:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" <ndobrynin@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 01:49:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::632; envelope-from=ndobrynin@HIDDEN; helo=mail-ej1-x632.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:08:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. =D0=B0=D0= =B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4. 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. 5. Press S D e to resume editing. 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4", you will = see a sequence of digits "01234". Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. Incidentally, a similar problem, though not as bad, occurs with German characters (e.g. =C3=A4) which get replaced with \number after pressing S D= e. Many thanks.
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