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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Severity: wishlist See the defcustom `gnus-picon-databases` and related code. This seems to owe to an early-web experiment from, by the looks of things, 1997: Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: web.archive.org] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: web.archive.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2001:470:142:0:0:0:0:17 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Severity: wishlist See the defcustom `gnus-picon-databases` and related code. This seems to owe to an early-web experiment from, by the looks of things, 1997: "picons" is short for "personal icons". They're small, constrained images used to represent users and domains on the net, organized into databases so that the appropriate image for a given e-mail address can be found. Besides users and domains, there are picons databases for Usenet newsgroups and weather forecasts. The picons are in either or both monochrome XBM and color XPM formats, plus a GIF format. https://web.archive.org/web/20160613182117/www.cs.indiana.edu/picons/ftp/index.html https://kinzler.com/ftp/faces/picons/ Is this feature still relevant in 2025? Should it be obsoleted?
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#76035: Gnus: obsoleting picons support? Resent-From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 06:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.76035.B76035.174037931812869 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76035 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN> Cc: 76035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> Reply-To: m43cap@HIDDEN Received: via spool by 76035-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B76035.174037931812869 (code B ref 76035); Mon, 24 Feb 2025 06:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 76035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2025 06:41:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tmSA9-0003LU-Mz for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 01:41:58 -0500 Received: from forward502a.mail.yandex.net ([2a02:6b8:c0e:500:1:45:d181:d502]:59980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <m43cap@HIDDEN>) id 1tmS9J-0003JO-2T for 76035 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 01:41:06 -0500 Received: from mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c15:2c8f:0:640:f9cc:0]) by forward502a.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPS id 3471660019; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:40:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: by mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id peUIrKhLomI0-FxdATSzw; Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:40:53 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1740379253; bh=kTuYAt2OdCkvPvkm7hkT0dqQnHcG7zyUNrzPBMI5R2M=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; b=T95NuNYOuJ7XmlosT8zdrWMrz0T8KxBpHzyD8RMbAGyw6Z+id1f/pYdP4W+5Fy+1a +ifJR5O0cR9foz+Rtvhc3yzpclZCsCmbFIiET3WcvsLnIHiF/eshVmz/fv7zqEx1Zg zwB3/OBcxHUGNiu7FE1dqrLKi05JoN+t/VbzMsyM= Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-54.vla.yp-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87tt8kjih2.fsf@HIDDEN> (Andrew Cohen's message of "Mon, 24 Feb 2025 08:26:33 +0800") References: <CADwFkmn_Zhttzrsx_bq8ATUs9wUh6CkoCBnuhwt76y9d1obEvw@HIDDEN> <87tt8kjih2.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qm<l.(R#\p-0{gCp3du3*)G~PJYQ[6fRR<L#QZ,~":E9WQ,|'jw;k 9xPEKXwL%6nfC:T>j'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 06:40:51 +0000 Message-ID: <87r03netfw.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.1 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>>> Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN> writes: >>>>> "SK" == Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes: SK> Severity: wishlist See the defcustom `gnus-picon-databases` and SK> related code. SK> This seems to owe to an early-web experiment from, by the looks SK> of things, 1997: SK> "picons" is short for "personal icons". They're small, SK> constrained images used to represent users and domains on the SK> net, organized into databases so that the appropriate image for SK> a given e-mail address can be found. Besides users and domains, SK> there are picons databases for Usenet newsgroups and weather SK> forecasts. The picons are in either or both monochrome XBM and SK> colour XPM formats, plus a GIF format. > I asked on emacs.gnus.general and found no one actively usings it > (although only a handful of responses). > I used to use it personally, but stopped a decade ago. I am in > favor of obsoleting it (although there might always be someone out > there who is using it). Sorry to be dim, but what does making picons obsolete actually mean? Will functions such as gnus-picons-installed-p, gnus-treat-from-picon, gnus-treat-mail-picon, gnus-treat-newsgroups-picon, etc be removed? Colin Baxter.
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#76035: Gnus: obsoleting picons support? 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I am in > > favor of obsoleting it (although there might always be someone out > > there who is using it). Thanks, that's some data at least. > Sorry to be dim, but what does making picons obsolete actually mean? > Will functions such as gnus-picons-installed-p, gnus-treat-from-picon, > gnus-treat-mail-picon, gnus-treat-newsgroups-picon, etc be removed? They will be marked as obsolete, which means they are due for removal at some point in the future. This is normally after 10 years, give or take.
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