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In the process toward a new release I took a look at the 'release' make
target and the release.scm manifest to start.

In the Makefile:
* Added riscv64-linux as a supported system
* switch the assert-binaries-available make target we've used previously
  to make sure we have substitutes for a base set of packages to point
  to the installer manifest.  If the purpose of the installer is to
  install and then everyone expected to run `guix pull` then we need the
  packages from the installer.

release.scm:
I don't have a real good use for this manifest currently, but I've made
some changes anyway:
* %base-packages already existed in (gnu system), and that seemed like a
  good list of packages that we would need.
* %system-packages: The note mentioned the installer, so I copied the
  work I did on the installer.scm to this list.

installer.scm:
A manifest which only checks that we have substitutes for what can be
installed using the TUI installer (assuming no extra added items).  It
differs from the GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEM variable in the Makefile
by including aarch64 as an architecture.  Ideally all the packages
should compile, which would allow someone to run the installer
successfully for x86_64-linux, i686-linux or aarch64-linux.

cross-compile.scm:
Ideally all the packages one would need to produce an OS image for
another architecture we support, or the same %base-packages for other
architectures we have.  Currently it only tests from x86_64-linux.

Ideally I'd like to see the installer.scm and cross-compile.scm
manifests added to cuirass.  I'd hope we could keep 100% build on
installer.scm so we can actually offer all the options in the installer,
and the cross-compile.scm manifest might need to be split so we can
focus on cross-compiling an OS config vs cross-compiling binaries for
another architecture.

Efraim Flashner (4):
  Makefile.am: Add riscv64-linux as a supported-system.
  etc: manifests/release: Adjust for changes in Guix.
  etc: Add installer manifest.
  etc: Add cross-compile manifest.

 Makefile.am                     |  15 +--
 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 etc/manifests/installer.scm     | 112 +++++++++++++++++++++
 etc/manifests/release.scm       |  51 +++++-----
 4 files changed, 312 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/installer.scm

base-commit: 782cc91970a795a58d10391f387cc12e4bfd1c90
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* Makefile.am (SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Add riscv64-linux.

Change-Id: Ie8a18500b73b39f0702af64a5c9cb988ffd77250
---
 Makefile.am | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index de884548188..ad8bb907515 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1070,7 +1070,7 @@ SOURCE_TARBALLS =					\

 # Systems supported by Guix.
 SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-linux aarch64-linux \
-  powerpc64le-linux
+  powerpc64le-linux riscv64-linux

 # Guix binary tarballs.
 BINARY_TARBALLS =							\
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* etc/manifests/release.scm (%base-packages): Replace with
%base-packages from (gnu system).
(%system-packages): Adjust the packages which are depended upon by the
installer.  Add a set of extra packages which we expect to have
available.
(%packages-to-cross-build): Add zstd and git-minimal.
(%cross-manifest): Add riscv64-linux-gnu as a target.

Change-Id: I5806fff6bc38d14859f6d7163719841620e28d09
---
 etc/manifests/release.scm | 51 +++++++++++++++++++--------------------
 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/manifests/release.scm b/etc/manifests/release.scm
index b003f216fff..d5d86d273e7 100644
--- a/etc/manifests/release.scm
+++ b/etc/manifests/release.scm
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 ;;; Copyright © 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright © 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright © 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
 ;;;
 ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
 ;;;
@@ -26,6 +27,7 @@
              (guix profiles)
              ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
              ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:prefix gnu-system: #:select (%base-packages))
              (guix utils)
              (guix gexp)
              (srfi srfi-1)
@@ -47,9 +49,9 @@ (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
 
 (define %base-packages
   ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix supports.
-  (map specification->package
-       '("bootstrap-tarballs" "gcc-toolchain" "nss-certs"
-         "openssh" "emacs" "vim" "python" "guile" "guix")))
+  ;; Use the %base-packages from (gnu system) since they are included by default
+  ;; in the packages field of the operating system configuration.
+  gnu-system:%base-packages)
 
 (define %base-packages/armhf
   ;; The guix package doesn't build natively on armhf due to Guile memory
@@ -67,14 +69,17 @@ (define %base-packages/hurd
 (define %system-packages
   ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
   (append (map specification->package
-               '("xorg-server" "xfce" "gnome" "mate" "enlightenment"
-                 "openbox" "awesome" "i3-wm" "ratpoison"
+               '("gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
+                 "openbox" "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
                  "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
-                 "xlockmore" "slock" "libreoffice"
-                 "connman" "network-manager" "network-manager-applet"
-                 "openssh" "ntp" "tor"
-                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"
-                 "icecat"))
+                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
+          ;; Additional key packages we want to make sure are available
+          (map specification->package
+               '("emacs" "icecat" "libreoffice" "vim"))
           %default-xorg-modules))
 
 (define %packages-to-cross-build
@@ -84,11 +89,12 @@ (define %packages-to-cross-build
   (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
           (map specification->package
                '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
-                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz"
+                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz" "zstd" "git-minimal"
                  "hello" "zlib"))))
 
 (define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
-  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work.
+  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work
+  ;; to test that the cross-compiler itself works.
   (map specification->package '("hello")))
 
 (define %cross-bootstrap-targets
@@ -107,14 +113,10 @@ (define %base-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (system)
                  (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
-                      (cond ((string=? system "i586-gnu")
+                      (cond ((target-hurd? system)
                              %base-packages/hurd)
-                            ((string=? system "armhf-linux")
+                            ((target-arm32? system)
                              %base-packages/armhf)
-                            ((string=? system "powerpc64le-linux")
-                             ;; FIXME: Drop 'bootstrap-tarballs' until
-                             ;; <https://bugs.gnu.org/48055> is fixed.
-                             (drop %base-packages 1))
                             (else
                              %base-packages))))
                %cuirass-supported-systems)))
@@ -123,7 +125,7 @@ (define %system-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (system)
                  ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on some
-                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on non-x86_64, due to Rust.  Filter
+                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter
                  ;; them out.
                  (filter-map (lambda (package)
                                (and (supported-package? package system)
@@ -131,6 +133,8 @@ (define %system-manifest
                              %system-packages))
                '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"))))  ;Guix System
 
+;; As per the Guix Survey of 2024 we only worry about cross compiling from
+;; x86_64-linux (98% of users) and not from others (aarch64 with 19%).
 (define %cross-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (target)
@@ -153,12 +157,7 @@ (define %cross-manifest
                        ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
                        "avr"
                        "or1k-elf"
-                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf"
-
-                       ;; XXX: Important bits like libsigsegv and libffi don't
-                       ;; support RISCV at the moment, so don't require RISCV
-                       ;; support.
-                       "riscv64-linux-gnu")))))
+                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf")))))
 
 (define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
   (manifest
@@ -168,7 +167,7 @@ (define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
            "x86_64-linux" #:target target))
         %cross-bootstrap-targets)))
 
-;; Return the union of all three manifests.
+;; Return the union of all four manifests.
 (concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
                              %system-manifest
                              %cross-manifest
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* etc/manifests/installer.scm: New file.
* Makefile.am (GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Rename to
GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS.
(assert-binaries-available): Check for substitutes using the installer
manifest.

Change-Id: I5c15e6916583bcd56e535733f284f3a735d7600b
---
 Makefile.am                 |  13 +++--
 etc/manifests/installer.scm | 112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 119 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/installer.scm

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index ad8bb907515..f2a5bcf5f7b 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1076,8 +1076,9 @@ SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-linux aarch64-linux \
 BINARY_TARBALLS =							\
   $(foreach system,$(SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS),guix-binary.$(system).tar.xz)
 
-# Systems supported by Guix System.
-GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux
+# Systems supported by the Guix System installer.
+# A Hurd install happens from a Linux installer image.
+GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux
 
 # Systems for which we build Guix VMs.
 GUIX_SYSTEM_VM_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux
@@ -1138,10 +1139,10 @@ release: dist-with-updated-version all
 # Build 'current-guix' to speed things up for the next step.
 	$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env guix build				\
 	      -e '((@ (gnu packages package-management) current-guix))'	\
-	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS))	\
+	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS))	\
 	      -v1 --no-grafts --fallback
 # Generate the ISO installation images.
-	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
+	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
 	  GUIX_DISPLAYED_VERSION="`git describe --match=v* | sed -'es/^v//'`" ;		\
 	  image=`$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env						\
 	    guix system image -t iso9660						\
@@ -1205,11 +1206,11 @@ assert-no-store-file-names:
 	  exit 1 ;								\
 	fi
 
-# Make sure important substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
+# Make sure installer substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
 # server so that '--display-missing' doesn't print two lists.
 assert-binaries-available: $(GOBJECTS)
 	$(AM_V_at)$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env				\
-	  guix weather -m "$(top_srcdir)/etc/manifests/release.scm"	\
+	  guix weather -m "$(top_srcdir)/etc/manifests/installer.scm"	\
 	                --substitute-urls="https://ci.guix.gnu.org"	\
 	                --display-missing
 
diff --git a/etc/manifests/installer.scm b/etc/manifests/installer.scm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..264cb4bab8e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/etc/manifests/installer.scm
@@ -0,0 +1,112 @@
+;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
+;;; Copyright © 2020, 2021 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
+;;;
+;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+;;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at
+;;; your option) any later version.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+;;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
+;;;
+;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which are needed by the
+;;; installer.
+
+(use-modules (gnu packages)
+             (guix packages)
+             (guix profiles)
+             ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
+             ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:select (%base-packages %base-packages-linux))
+             (guix utils)
+             (guix gexp)
+             (srfi srfi-1)
+             (srfi srfi-26))
+
+(define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
+                                   #:key target)
+  "Return a manifest entry for PACKAGE on SYSTEM, optionally cross-compiled to
+TARGET."
+  (manifest-entry
+    (inherit (package->manifest-entry package))
+    (name (string-append (package-name package) "." system
+                         (if target
+                             (string-append "." target)
+                             "'")))
+    (item (with-parameters ((%current-system system)
+                            (%current-target-system target))
+            package))))
+
+(define %guix-system-installer-systems
+  ;; Only the systems listed in GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS
+  '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"
+    ;; These would be installed from their Linux counterparts:
+    ;"x86_64-gnu" "i586-gnu"
+    ;; Not actually for the installer, but needs the same packages anyway.
+    "aarch64-linux"))
+
+(define %base-packages/hurd
+  ;; Remove the packages from %base-packages-linux and some of the packages
+  ;; from the other package sets.
+  (fold delete %base-packages
+        (append (map specification->package
+                     '("e2fsprogs" "kbd" "iproute2" "iw" "wireless-tools"))
+                %base-packages-linux)))
+
+(define %system-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (append (map specification->package
+               '("gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
+                 "openbox" "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
+                 "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
+                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
+          %default-xorg-modules))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Manifests.
+;;;
+
+(define %base-manifest
+  (manifest
+   (append-map (lambda (system)
+                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
+                      (cond ((target-hurd? system)
+                             %base-packages/hurd)
+                            (else
+                             %base-packages))))
+               %guix-system-installer-systems)))
+
+(define %system-manifest
+  (manifest
+    (cons
+      ;; linux-libre-arm64-generic is the commonly used kernel on aarch64-linux.
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm64-generic)
+                                "aarch64-linux")
+      (append-map (lambda (system)
+                    ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on some
+                    ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter
+                    ;; them out.
+                    (filter-map (lambda (package)
+                                  (and (supported-package? package system)
+                                       (package->manifest-entry* package system)))
+                                %system-packages))
+                  %guix-system-installer-systems))))
+
+;; Return the union of all installer manifests.
+(concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
+                             %system-manifest))
-- 
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* etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm: New file.

Change-Id: I63ac4014617e8d716c508a04c6da553e36a99fec
---
 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 167 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm

diff --git a/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..8754f325564
--- /dev/null
+++ b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
@@ -0,0 +1,167 @@
+;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
+;;; Copyright © 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
+;;;
+;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+;;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at
+;;; your option) any later version.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+;;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
+;;;
+;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which should all cross-compile.
+;;; We use the packages included by default in an OS configuration since that is
+;;; (probably) the most likely install method for some architectures.
+
+(use-modules (gnu packages)
+             (guix packages)
+             (guix profiles)
+             (guix platform)
+             ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:prefix gnu-system:
+                           #:select (%base-packages %base-packages-linux))
+             (guix utils)
+             (guix gexp)
+             (srfi srfi-1)
+             (srfi srfi-26))
+
+(define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
+                                   #:key target)
+  "Return a manifest entry for PACKAGE on SYSTEM, optionally cross-compiled to
+TARGET."
+  (manifest-entry
+    (inherit (package->manifest-entry package))
+    (name (string-append (package-name package) "." system
+                         (if target
+                             (string-append "." target)
+                             "'")))
+    (item (with-parameters ((%current-system system)
+                            (%current-target-system target))
+            package))))
+
+(define %base-packages
+  ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix supports.
+  ;; Use the %base-packages from (gnu system) since they are included by default
+  ;; in the packages field of the operating system configuration.
+  gnu-system:%base-packages)
+
+(define %base-packages/hurd
+  ;; Remove the packages from %base-packages-linux and some of the packages
+  ;; from the other package sets.
+  (fold delete %base-packages
+        (append (map specification->package
+                     '("e2fsprogs" "kbd" "iproute2" "iw" "wireless-tools"))
+                %base-packages-linux)))
+
+(define %system-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (map specification->package
+       '("guix" "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+         "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+         "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid")))
+
+(define %system-gui-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (append (map specification->package
+               '("enlightenment"
+                 ;; build system `python' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"gnome" "xfce" "mate" "openbox"
+                 "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
+                 ;; build system `emacs' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
+                 "emacs"))
+          %default-xorg-modules))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build
+  ;; Packages that must be cross-buildable from x86_64-linux.
+  ;; FIXME: Add (@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc) when <https://bugs.gnu.org/40463>
+  ;; is fixed.
+  (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
+          (map specification->package
+               '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
+                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz" "zstd"
+                 "hello" "zlib"))))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work
+  ;; to test that the cross-compiler itself works.
+  (map specification->package '("hello")))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Manifests.
+;;;
+
+;; As per the Guix Survey of 2024 we only worry about cross compiling from
+;; x86_64-linux (98% of users) and not from others (aarch64 with 19%).
+(define %cross-manifest
+  (manifest
+    (append-map (lambda (target)
+                  (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                            #:target target)
+                       (if (target-mingw? target)
+                           %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+                           %packages-to-cross-build)))
+                (fold delete (targets)
+                      '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                        "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; mips64el commonly targets a different architecture
+                        ;; revision than we targeted in Guix.
+                        "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
+                        "avr"
+                        "or1k-elf"
+                        "xtensa-ath9k-elf")))))
+
+(define %cross-system
+  (manifest
+    (cons*
+      ;; Include a couple of extra kernels that are commonly used:
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "aarch64-linux-gnu")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "arm-linux-gnueabihf")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-riscv64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "riscv64-linux-gnu")
+      (append-map (lambda (target)
+                    (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                              #:target target)
+                         (cond
+                           ;; With a graphical environment:
+                           ((or (target-x86-32? target)
+                                (target-aarch64? target))
+                            (append %base-packages
+                                    %system-packages
+                                    %system-gui-packages))
+                           (else (append %base-packages %system-packages)))))
+                  (fold delete (map platform-system->target (systems))
+                        '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                          "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                          ;; Ignore obsolete systems, as in (gnu ci).
+                          "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+                          "powerpc-linux-gnu"))))))
+
+;; Return the union of all the manifests.
+(concatenate-manifests (list %cross-manifest
+                             %cross-system))
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We discussed the next release during Guix Days and I volunteered to lead
the effort.

The short version:

* We need a tagged release so we can update the version in Debian and
  other distros, in CI systems, etc.
* We need a newer point-in-time for the installer.
* A new release increases interest in the project.

I've opened bug #76098 with a couple of patches but I figured it would
be better if I wrote here instead.

In the process toward a new release I took a look at the 'release' make
target and the release.scm manifest to start.

In the Makefile:
* Added riscv64-linux as a supported system
* switch the assert-binaries-available make target we've used previously
  to make sure we have substitutes for a base set of packages to point
  to the installer manifest.  If the purpose of the installer is to
  install and then everyone expected to run `guix pull` then we need the
  packages from the installer.

release.scm:
I don't have a real good use for this manifest currently, but I've made
some changes anyway:
* %base-packages already existed in (gnu system), and that seemed like a
  good list of packages that we would need.  This increased the list of
  packages.
* %system-packages: The note mentioned the installer, so I copied the
  work I did on the installer.scm to this list.  This also increased the
  list of packages.

installer.scm:
A manifest which only checks that we have substitutes for what can be
installed using the TUI installer (assuming no extra added items).  It
differs from the GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEM variable in the Makefile
by including aarch64 as an architecture.  Ideally all the packages
should compile, which would allow someone to run the installer
successfully for x86_64-linux, i686-linux or aarch64-linux.  Currently
everything is in one big manifest, but I think it would be better if we
didn't do that, which would allow anyone to try to build the manifest
only on architectures they are interested in/able to fix.  Then we could
(using the cuirass interface) set which architectures to try to build
the manifest.

cross-compile.scm:
Ideally all the packages one would need to produce an OS image for
another architecture we support, or the same %base-packages for other
architectures we have.  Currently it only tests from x86_64-linux.

Ideally I'd like to see the installer.scm and cross-compile.scm
manifests added to Cuirass.  I'd hope we could keep 100% build on
installer.scm so we can actually offer all the options in the installer,
and the cross-compile.scm manifest might need to be split so we can
focus on cross-compiling an OS config vs cross-compiling binaries for
another architecture.


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=46rom: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:06:27 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 1/4] Makefile.am: Add riscv64-linux as a supported-system.

* Makefile.am (SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Add riscv64-linux.

Change-Id: Ie8a18500b73b39f0702af64a5c9cb988ffd77250
---
 Makefile.am | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index de884548188..ad8bb907515 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1070,7 +1070,7 @@ SOURCE_TARBALLS =3D					\
=20
 # Systems supported by Guix.
 SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?=3D x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-linux aarch64-linux \
-  powerpc64le-linux
+  powerpc64le-linux riscv64-linux
=20
 # Guix binary tarballs.
 BINARY_TARBALLS =3D							\
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=46rom: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:08:00 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 2/4] etc: manifests/release: Adjust for changes in Guix.

* etc/manifests/release.scm (%base-packages): Replace with
%base-packages from (gnu system).
(%system-packages): Adjust the packages which are depended upon by the
installer.  Add a set of extra packages which we expect to have
available.
(%packages-to-cross-build): Add zstd and git-minimal.
(%cross-manifest): Add riscv64-linux-gnu as a target.

Change-Id: I5806fff6bc38d14859f6d7163719841620e28d09
---
 etc/manifests/release.scm | 51 +++++++++++++++++++--------------------
 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/manifests/release.scm b/etc/manifests/release.scm
index b003f216fff..d5d86d273e7 100644
--- a/etc/manifests/release.scm
+++ b/etc/manifests/release.scm
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
 ;;;
 ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
 ;;;
@@ -26,6 +27,7 @@
              (guix profiles)
              ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
              ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:prefix gnu-system: #:select (%base-packages))
              (guix utils)
              (guix gexp)
              (srfi srfi-1)
@@ -47,9 +49,9 @@ (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
=20
 (define %base-packages
   ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix support=
s.
-  (map specification->package
-       '("bootstrap-tarballs" "gcc-toolchain" "nss-certs"
-         "openssh" "emacs" "vim" "python" "guile" "guix")))
+  ;; Use the %base-packages from (gnu system) since they are included by d=
efault
+  ;; in the packages field of the operating system configuration.
+  gnu-system:%base-packages)
=20
 (define %base-packages/armhf
   ;; The guix package doesn't build natively on armhf due to Guile memory
@@ -67,14 +69,17 @@ (define %base-packages/hurd
 (define %system-packages
   ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
   (append (map specification->package
-               '("xorg-server" "xfce" "gnome" "mate" "enlightenment"
-                 "openbox" "awesome" "i3-wm" "ratpoison"
+               '("gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
+                 "openbox" "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
                  "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
-                 "xlockmore" "slock" "libreoffice"
-                 "connman" "network-manager" "network-manager-applet"
-                 "openssh" "ntp" "tor"
-                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"
-                 "icecat"))
+                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "=
cups"
+                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
+          ;; Additional key packages we want to make sure are available
+          (map specification->package
+               '("emacs" "icecat" "libreoffice" "vim"))
           %default-xorg-modules))
=20
 (define %packages-to-cross-build
@@ -84,11 +89,12 @@ (define %packages-to-cross-build
   (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
           (map specification->package
                '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
-                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz"
+                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz" "zstd" "git-minimal"
                  "hello" "zlib"))))
=20
 (define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
-  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work.
+  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work
+  ;; to test that the cross-compiler itself works.
   (map specification->package '("hello")))
=20
 (define %cross-bootstrap-targets
@@ -107,14 +113,10 @@ (define %base-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (system)
                  (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
-                      (cond ((string=3D? system "i586-gnu")
+                      (cond ((target-hurd? system)
                              %base-packages/hurd)
-                            ((string=3D? system "armhf-linux")
+                            ((target-arm32? system)
                              %base-packages/armhf)
-                            ((string=3D? system "powerpc64le-linux")
-                             ;; FIXME: Drop 'bootstrap-tarballs' until
-                             ;; <https://bugs.gnu.org/48055> is fixed.
-                             (drop %base-packages 1))
                             (else
                              %base-packages))))
                %cuirass-supported-systems)))
@@ -123,7 +125,7 @@ (define %system-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (system)
                  ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on =
some
-                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on non-x86_64, due to Rust.  Filt=
er
+                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter
                  ;; them out.
                  (filter-map (lambda (package)
                                (and (supported-package? package system)
@@ -131,6 +133,8 @@ (define %system-manifest
                              %system-packages))
                '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"))))  ;Guix System
=20
+;; As per the Guix Survey of 2024 we only worry about cross compiling from
+;; x86_64-linux (98% of users) and not from others (aarch64 with 19%).
 (define %cross-manifest
   (manifest
    (append-map (lambda (target)
@@ -153,12 +157,7 @@ (define %cross-manifest
                        ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
                        "avr"
                        "or1k-elf"
-                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf"
-
-                       ;; XXX: Important bits like libsigsegv and libffi d=
on't
-                       ;; support RISCV at the moment, so don't require RI=
SCV
-                       ;; support.
-                       "riscv64-linux-gnu")))))
+                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf")))))
=20
 (define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
   (manifest
@@ -168,7 +167,7 @@ (define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
            "x86_64-linux" #:target target))
         %cross-bootstrap-targets)))
=20
-;; Return the union of all three manifests.
+;; Return the union of all four manifests.
 (concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
                              %system-manifest
                              %cross-manifest
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=46rom: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:12:16 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] etc: Add installer manifest.

* etc/manifests/installer.scm: New file.
* Makefile.am (GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Rename to
GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS.
(assert-binaries-available): Check for substitutes using the installer
manifest.

Change-Id: I5c15e6916583bcd56e535733f284f3a735d7600b
---
 Makefile.am                 |  13 +++--
 etc/manifests/installer.scm | 112 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 119 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/installer.scm

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index ad8bb907515..f2a5bcf5f7b 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1076,8 +1076,9 @@ SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?=3D x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-=
linux aarch64-linux \
 BINARY_TARBALLS =3D							\
   $(foreach system,$(SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS),guix-binary.$(system).tar.xz)
=20
-# Systems supported by Guix System.
-GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?=3D x86_64-linux i686-linux
+# Systems supported by the Guix System installer.
+# A Hurd install happens from a Linux installer image.
+GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS ?=3D x86_64-linux i686-linux
=20
 # Systems for which we build Guix VMs.
 GUIX_SYSTEM_VM_SYSTEMS ?=3D x86_64-linux
@@ -1138,10 +1139,10 @@ release: dist-with-updated-version all
 # Build 'current-guix' to speed things up for the next step.
 	$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env guix build				\
 	      -e '((@ (gnu packages package-management) current-guix))'	\
-	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS))	\
+	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS))	\
 	      -v1 --no-grafts --fallback
 # Generate the ISO installation images.
-	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
+	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
 	  GUIX_DISPLAYED_VERSION=3D"`git describe --match=3Dv* | sed -'es/^v//'`"=
 ;		\
 	  image=3D`$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env						\
 	    guix system image -t iso9660						\
@@ -1205,11 +1206,11 @@ assert-no-store-file-names:
 	  exit 1 ;								\
 	fi
=20
-# Make sure important substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
+# Make sure installer substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
 # server so that '--display-missing' doesn't print two lists.
 assert-binaries-available: $(GOBJECTS)
 	$(AM_V_at)$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env				\
-	  guix weather -m "$(top_srcdir)/etc/manifests/release.scm"	\
+	  guix weather -m "$(top_srcdir)/etc/manifests/installer.scm"	\
 	                --substitute-urls=3D"https://ci.guix.gnu.org"	\
 	                --display-missing
=20
diff --git a/etc/manifests/installer.scm b/etc/manifests/installer.scm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..264cb4bab8e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/etc/manifests/installer.scm
@@ -0,0 +1,112 @@
+;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020, 2021 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
+;;;
+;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+;;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at
+;;; your option) any later version.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+;;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
+;;;
+;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which are needed by t=
he
+;;; installer.
+
+(use-modules (gnu packages)
+             (guix packages)
+             (guix profiles)
+             ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
+             ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:select (%base-packages %base-packages-linux))
+             (guix utils)
+             (guix gexp)
+             (srfi srfi-1)
+             (srfi srfi-26))
+
+(define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
+                                   #:key target)
+  "Return a manifest entry for PACKAGE on SYSTEM, optionally cross-compile=
d to
+TARGET."
+  (manifest-entry
+    (inherit (package->manifest-entry package))
+    (name (string-append (package-name package) "." system
+                         (if target
+                             (string-append "." target)
+                             "'")))
+    (item (with-parameters ((%current-system system)
+                            (%current-target-system target))
+            package))))
+
+(define %guix-system-installer-systems
+  ;; Only the systems listed in GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS
+  '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"
+    ;; These would be installed from their Linux counterparts:
+    ;"x86_64-gnu" "i586-gnu"
+    ;; Not actually for the installer, but needs the same packages anyway.
+    "aarch64-linux"))
+
+(define %base-packages/hurd
+  ;; Remove the packages from %base-packages-linux and some of the packages
+  ;; from the other package sets.
+  (fold delete %base-packages
+        (append (map specification->package
+                     '("e2fsprogs" "kbd" "iproute2" "iw" "wireless-tools"))
+                %base-packages-linux)))
+
+(define %system-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (append (map specification->package
+               '("gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
+                 "openbox" "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
+                 "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
+                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "=
cups"
+                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
+          %default-xorg-modules))
+
+=0C
+;;;
+;;; Manifests.
+;;;
+
+(define %base-manifest
+  (manifest
+   (append-map (lambda (system)
+                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
+                      (cond ((target-hurd? system)
+                             %base-packages/hurd)
+                            (else
+                             %base-packages))))
+               %guix-system-installer-systems)))
+
+(define %system-manifest
+  (manifest
+    (cons
+      ;; linux-libre-arm64-generic is the commonly used kernel on aarch64-=
linux.
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm64-generic)
+                                "aarch64-linux")
+      (append-map (lambda (system)
+                    ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported =
on some
+                    ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter
+                    ;; them out.
+                    (filter-map (lambda (package)
+                                  (and (supported-package? package system)
+                                       (package->manifest-entry* package s=
ystem)))
+                                %system-packages))
+                  %guix-system-installer-systems))))
+
+;; Return the union of all installer manifests.
+(concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
+                             %system-manifest))
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=46rom: Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:14:31 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 4/4] etc: Add cross-compile manifest.

* etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm: New file.

Change-Id: I63ac4014617e8d716c508a04c6da553e36a99fec
---
 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 167 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm

diff --git a/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.=
scm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..8754f325564
--- /dev/null
+++ b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
@@ -0,0 +1,167 @@
+;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
+;;;
+;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+;;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at
+;;; your option) any later version.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+;;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
+;;;
+;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which should all cros=
s-compile.
+;;; We use the packages included by default in an OS configuration since t=
hat is
+;;; (probably) the most likely install method for some architectures.
+
+(use-modules (gnu packages)
+             (guix packages)
+             (guix profiles)
+             (guix platform)
+             ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:prefix gnu-system:
+                           #:select (%base-packages %base-packages-linux))
+             (guix utils)
+             (guix gexp)
+             (srfi srfi-1)
+             (srfi srfi-26))
+
+(define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
+                                   #:key target)
+  "Return a manifest entry for PACKAGE on SYSTEM, optionally cross-compile=
d to
+TARGET."
+  (manifest-entry
+    (inherit (package->manifest-entry package))
+    (name (string-append (package-name package) "." system
+                         (if target
+                             (string-append "." target)
+                             "'")))
+    (item (with-parameters ((%current-system system)
+                            (%current-target-system target))
+            package))))
+
+(define %base-packages
+  ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix support=
s.
+  ;; Use the %base-packages from (gnu system) since they are included by d=
efault
+  ;; in the packages field of the operating system configuration.
+  gnu-system:%base-packages)
+
+(define %base-packages/hurd
+  ;; Remove the packages from %base-packages-linux and some of the packages
+  ;; from the other package sets.
+  (fold delete %base-packages
+        (append (map specification->package
+                     '("e2fsprogs" "kbd" "iproute2" "iw" "wireless-tools"))
+                %base-packages-linux)))
+
+(define %system-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (map specification->package
+       '("guix" "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+         "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+         "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid")))
+
+(define %system-gui-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (append (map specification->package
+               '("enlightenment"
+                 ;; build system `python' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"gnome" "xfce" "mate" "openbox"
+                 "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
+                 ;; build system `emacs' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
+                 "emacs"))
+          %default-xorg-modules))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build
+  ;; Packages that must be cross-buildable from x86_64-linux.
+  ;; FIXME: Add (@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc) when <https://bugs.gnu.org/4046=
3>
+  ;; is fixed.
+  (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
+          (map specification->package
+               '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
+                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz" "zstd"
+                 "hello" "zlib"))))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work
+  ;; to test that the cross-compiler itself works.
+  (map specification->package '("hello")))
+
+=0C
+;;;
+;;; Manifests.
+;;;
+
+;; As per the Guix Survey of 2024 we only worry about cross compiling from
+;; x86_64-linux (98% of users) and not from others (aarch64 with 19%).
+(define %cross-manifest
+  (manifest
+    (append-map (lambda (target)
+                  (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                            #:target target)
+                       (if (target-mingw? target)
+                           %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+                           %packages-to-cross-build)))
+                (fold delete (targets)
+                      '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                        "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; mips64el commonly targets a different architect=
ure
+                        ;; revision than we targeted in Guix.
+                        "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
+                        "avr"
+                        "or1k-elf"
+                        "xtensa-ath9k-elf")))))
+
+(define %cross-system
+  (manifest
+    (cons*
+      ;; Include a couple of extra kernels that are commonly used:
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "aarch64-linux-gnu")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "arm-linux-gnueabihf")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-riscv64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "riscv64-linux-gnu")
+      (append-map (lambda (target)
+                    (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                              #:target target)
+                         (cond
+                           ;; With a graphical environment:
+                           ((or (target-x86-32? target)
+                                (target-aarch64? target))
+                            (append %base-packages
+                                    %system-packages
+                                    %system-gui-packages))
+                           (else (append %base-packages %system-packages))=
)))
+                  (fold delete (map platform-system->target (systems))
+                        '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                          "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                          ;; Ignore obsolete systems, as in (gnu ci).
+                          "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+                          "powerpc-linux-gnu"))))))
+
+;; Return the union of all the manifests.
+(concatenate-manifests (list %cross-manifest
+                             %cross-system))
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Hello Efraim,

Thanks for leading this effort!

Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> skribis:

> In the Makefile:
> * Added riscv64-linux as a supported system

One issue is that ci.guix, which is responsible for building release
artifacts (tarballs and ISOs), doesn=E2=80=99t build for riscv64-linux nor =
for
armhf-linux actually.

One way would be to add riscv64 and aarch64/armv7 hardware behind
ci.guix; another way would be to get bordeaux.guix to build these.

> * switch the assert-binaries-available make target we've used previously
>   to make sure we have substitutes for a base set of packages to point
>   to the installer manifest.  If the purpose of the installer is to
>   install and then everyone expected to run `guix pull` then we need the
>   packages from the installer.

That was the purpose of =E2=80=98release.scm=E2=80=99.  Perhaps instead of =
having an
unused =E2=80=98release.scm=E2=80=99, just make it what you currently have =
in
=E2=80=98installer.scm=E2=80=99?

> installer.scm:
> A manifest which only checks that we have substitutes for what can be
> installed using the TUI installer (assuming no extra added items).  It
> differs from the GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEM variable in the Makefile
> by including aarch64 as an architecture.  Ideally all the packages
> should compile, which would allow someone to run the installer
> successfully for x86_64-linux, i686-linux or aarch64-linux.
>
> cross-compile.scm:
> Ideally all the packages one would need to produce an OS image for
> another architecture we support, or the same %base-packages for other
> architectures we have.  Currently it only tests from x86_64-linux.

=E2=80=98release.scm=E2=80=99 was lumping all that together, but maybe it=
=E2=80=99s more
convenient to separate it as you did, indeed.

> Ideally I'd like to see the installer.scm and cross-compile.scm
> manifests added to cuirass.  I'd hope we could keep 100% build on
> installer.scm so we can actually offer all the options in the installer,
> and the cross-compile.scm manifest might need to be split so we can
> focus on cross-compiling an OS config vs cross-compiling binaries for
> another architecture.

We can definitely add them to Cuirass.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

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On 2025-02-11, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> We discussed the next release during Guix Days and I volunteered to lead
> the effort.

Thanks for working on it!

> The short version:
>
> * We need a tagged release so we can update the version in Debian and
>   other distros, in CI systems, etc.

Unless this happens very, very quickly(e.g. a week or two?), I am not
sure we will have this in time for Debian, which is about to enter
freeze for preparing the next release of Debian...

I may just make an attempt at making a git snapshot or something, which
I did once in the distant past... any recommendations on a particular
commit to aim at? Even an alpha or release candidate or whatever tag
would be nice...

live well,
  vagrant

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Hi Efraim,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN> skribis:

> The short version:
>
> * We need a tagged release so we can update the version in Debian and
>   other distros, in CI systems, etc.
> * We need a newer point-in-time for the installer.
> * A new release increases interest in the project.

Thanks a lot for getting the ball rolling!

One thing we discussed in Brussels is the need for more automation so
that pretty much anyone can make a release without having special
privileges and without spending an entire day building release
artifacts.

The main blocker is the two-step process with the =E2=80=98guix=E2=80=99 pa=
ckage update.
We briefly discussed the use of =E2=80=98current-guix=E2=80=99 as a way to =
bypass that.
(gnu services install) already uses it for the installer itself; the
next step would be to use it in the installed image and thus, possibly,
unconditionally.  The main reason why this is not done currently is that
it=E2=80=99s too expensive (equivalent to =E2=80=98guix pull=E2=80=99), but=
 we could probably
address that.

I=E2=80=99m willing to give a hand in this area over the coming weeks.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hello,

I think something we need to do urgently is to run an ungrafting
process - grafting takes a considerable amount of time when updating my
system now, and I suppose it will also waste a bit of space. We should
not burden the installation process with it.

Did we not have a jobset on ci to automate this?

As said in Brussels, I would be happy to test a new installation image
on a further x86_64 I would like to get running Guix.

Andreas

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On 2025-02-15, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On 2025-02-11, Efraim Flashner wrote:
>> We discussed the next release during Guix Days and I volunteered to lead
>> the effort.
...
> I may just make an attempt at making a git snapshot or something, which
> I did once in the distant past... any recommendations on a particular
> commit to aim at? Even an alpha or release candidate or whatever tag
> would be nice...

So, in order to try this, the first thing I needed to do was remember
how to run "make dist" to generate the tarball...

Basically from a clean git checkout:

  guix git tag v1.4.0+XYZ HEAD # I used f7cd085f4a36e118aa05af5524e74830a30b3dca
  guix git authenticate && \
  guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick perl graphviz less -- ./bootstrap && \
  guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick perl graphviz less -- ./configure && \
  guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick perl graphviz less -- make -j1 dist

Not sure if that is the "right" way or if there is better
documentation... ?

Running "make -j5 dist" failed in various ways... so there are probably
some undefined dependencies.

graphviz was needed otherwise the bootstrap-graph.pdf failed to build
(graphviz-minimal gets pulled in by "--development guix" but does not
support .pdf generation).

The other inputs, well, they're just from the last times I tried running
"make dist"! maybe they are no longer needed, maybe the are!


The generated tarball also appears to be missing a few files, some of
which seem fine (e.g. .gitignore) but some which actually cause problems
(e.g. missing po4a.cfg, tests/*.scm, gnu/patches/*.patch), some of which
probably should be added to dist_patch_DATA in gnu/local.mk or other
relevent values:

  Only in ../guix-master/build-aux: cuirass
  Only in ../guix-master/build-aux: gitlog-to-changelog
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  Only in ../guix-master/etc: copyright.el
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  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: tinydir-fix-cbehave-test.patch
  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: bare-hurd64.tmpl
  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: devel-hurd64.tmpl
  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: devel-hurd.tmpl
  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/tests: lightdm.scm
  Only in ../guix-master/gnu/tests: sddm.scm
  Only in ../guix-master: .mailmap
  Only in ../guix-master: .mumi
  Only in ../guix-master/nix: .gitignore
  Only in ../guix-master/nix/libstore: .gitignore
  Only in ../guix-master: .patman
  Only in ../guix-master/po/doc: po4a.cfg
  Only in ../guix-master/tests: hexpm.scm
  Only in ../guix-master/tests: ipfs.scm


I also fixed a bunch of typos, spelling, grammar, etc. that my workflow
building Guix in Debian detects in various package
synopsis/descriptions, and seem to have inspired others to do the same!
:)


In this process I also found a bug that caused "make dist" to fail due
to embedded store paths, and pushed a fix to guix.git as
0626f567378cf549fd097f3c3372fa498000a8a3.


Also, in reviewing the copyright and license headers while packaging for
Debian, this raised a broader question about translating license headers
in files such as doc/guix.de.info:

  https://salsa.debian.org/debian/guix/-/blob/debian/latest/doc/guix.de.info#L93

With my limited german, it is clearly a header to declare the file is
released under the GFDL in some form, but I wonder if that is a good
idea to translate the license headers ... as at least in the US, in
order to ship that file I would maybe need to at least consult with a
lawyer (the US only recognizes English for legal documents), and I
suspect various other countries might need something similar for
arbitrary languages... having to get a lawyer involved kind of kills the
joy of free software and the goal of free distribution...

This of course touches on some awful issues around language
imperialism. :/


live well,
  vagrant

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Hi Vagrant,

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> writes:

> On 2025-02-15, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
>
> The generated tarball also appears to be missing a few files,=20
> some of
> which seem fine (e.g. .gitignore) but some which actually cause=20
> problems
> (e.g. missing po4a.cfg, tests/*.scm, gnu/patches/*.patch), some=20
> of which
> probably should be added to dist_patch_DATA in gnu/local.mk or=20
> other
> relevent values:
>
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches:=20
>   librewolf-neuter-locale-download.patch
>

135.0.1-1 released today and I=E2=80=99m prepping patches for it, I can=20
include this fix if nobody beats me to it.

Can we glob so everything in gnu/packages/patches gets pulled in?=20
It feels odd to maintain a separate list, presumably the patches=20
wouldn=E2=80=99t be in there if something didn=E2=80=99t need them.

Thanks,
  -- Ian

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Also, thank you for tackling this!

  -- Ian

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Changes from the previous set of patches:

The first patch is new, it fixes a longstanding bug (TODO: which one?)
where `guix build --manifest` didn't honor the `--system` flag.

Second patch is unchanged.

Third patch removes the installer.scm manifest and only makes changes to
the Makefile.am.

Fourth patch keeps the changes from the installer.scm manifest but keeps
it in release.scm.  In addition it only produces a manifest for one
architecture, making it easier to test per-architecture.  It also
removes a bunch of now unused code.

The fifth patch moved the 'guix' package from %system-packages to
%base-packages and redid the logic for appending lists of packages
per-architecture.

Efraim Flashner (5):
  guix build: Honor '--system' with '--manifest'.
  Makefile.am: Add riscv64-linux as a supported-system.
  Makefile.am: Clarify the label for systems supported by the installer.
  etc: manifests/release: Only check for packages needed in the
    installer.
  etc: Add cross-compile manifest.

 Makefile.am                     |  13 +--
 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 etc/manifests/release.scm       | 155 +++++++----------------------
 guix/scripts/build.scm          |  22 +++--
 4 files changed, 220 insertions(+), 137 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm


base-commit: 65efd0c33511727987c90bebaf5c50a84e0e6182
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* guix/scripts/build.scm (options->things-to-build): Wrap the manifest
build option with the result of the '--system' option.

Change-Id: I1c3ff93af56bb659ddc00e1872c769cfc5e7a0d5
---
 guix/scripts/build.scm | 22 +++++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git a/guix/scripts/build.scm b/guix/scripts/build.scm
index f0a637a2ef5..dfc37d01d85 100644
--- a/guix/scripts/build.scm
+++ b/guix/scripts/build.scm
@@ -706,15 +706,19 @@ (define-public my-package
                            (ensure-list (load* file (make-user-module '()))))
                           result))))
          (('manifest . manifest)
-          (loop tail 'regular
-                (append (map manifest-entry-item
-                             (manifest-entries
-                              (ensure-manifest
-                               (load* manifest
-                                      (make-user-module '((guix profiles)
-                                                          (gnu))))
-                               manifest)))
-                        result)))
+          ;; Otherwise '--system' is ignored.
+          ;; Wrap the loop instead of adjusting each item so that manifest
+          ;; items can individually be for different systems.
+          (parameterize ((%current-system system))
+            (loop tail 'regular
+                  (append (map manifest-entry-item
+                               (manifest-entries
+                                (ensure-manifest
+                                 (load* manifest
+                                        (make-user-module '((guix profiles)
+                                                            (gnu))))
+                                 manifest)))
+                          result))))
          (('expression . str)
           (loop tail 'regular
                 (append (append-map for-type (ensure-list (read/eval str)))
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* Makefile.am (SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Add riscv64-linux.

Change-Id: Ie8a18500b73b39f0702af64a5c9cb988ffd77250
---
 Makefile.am | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index edcc392492b..d5b33570532 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1072,7 +1072,7 @@ SOURCE_TARBALLS =					\
 
 # Systems supported by Guix.
 SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-linux aarch64-linux \
-  powerpc64le-linux
+  powerpc64le-linux riscv64-linux
 
 # Guix binary tarballs.
 BINARY_TARBALLS =							\
-- 
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* Makefile.am (GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS): Rename to
GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS.

Change-Id: I5c15e6916583bcd56e535733f284f3a735d7600b
---
 Makefile.am | 11 ++++++-----
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am
index d5b33570532..93d40a701fe 100644
--- a/Makefile.am
+++ b/Makefile.am
@@ -1078,8 +1078,9 @@ SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux armhf-linux aarch64-linux \
 BINARY_TARBALLS =							\
   $(foreach system,$(SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS),guix-binary.$(system).tar.xz)
 
-# Systems supported by Guix System.
-GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux
+# Systems supported by the Guix System installer.
+# A Hurd install happens from a Linux installer image.
+GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux i686-linux
 
 # Systems for which we build Guix VMs.
 GUIX_SYSTEM_VM_SYSTEMS ?= x86_64-linux
@@ -1140,10 +1141,10 @@ release: dist-with-updated-version all
 # Build 'current-guix' to speed things up for the next step.
 	$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env guix build				\
 	      -e '((@ (gnu packages package-management) current-guix))'	\
-	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS))	\
+	      $(call system_flags,$(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS))	\
 	      -v1 --no-grafts --fallback
 # Generate the ISO installation images.
-	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_SUPPORTED_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
+	for system in $(GUIX_SYSTEM_INSTALLER_SYSTEMS) ; do				\
 	  GUIX_DISPLAYED_VERSION="`git describe --match=v* | sed -'es/^v//'`" ;		\
 	  image=`$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env						\
 	    guix system image -t iso9660						\
@@ -1207,7 +1208,7 @@ assert-no-store-file-names:
 	  exit 1 ;								\
 	fi
 
-# Make sure important substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
+# Make sure installer substitutes are available.  Check only the primary
 # server so that '--display-missing' doesn't print two lists.
 assert-binaries-available: $(GOBJECTS)
 	$(AM_V_at)$(top_builddir)/pre-inst-env				\
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* etc/manifests/release.scm (%system-packages): Adjust the packages
which are depended upon by the installer.  Add a set of extra packages
which we expect to have available.
(%base-packages, %base-packages/armhf, %base-packages/hurd,
%packages-to-cross-build, %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw,
%cross-bootstrap-targets, %base-manifest, %cross-manifest,
%cross-bootstrap-manifest): Remove variables.

Change-Id: I5806fff6bc38d14859f6d7163719841620e28d09
---
 etc/manifests/release.scm | 155 ++++++++------------------------------
 1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 122 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/manifests/release.scm b/etc/manifests/release.scm
index b003f216fff..f69ab316ca4 100644
--- a/etc/manifests/release.scm
+++ b/etc/manifests/release.scm
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 ;;; Copyright © 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright © 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
 ;;; Copyright © 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
 ;;;
 ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
 ;;;
@@ -18,18 +19,13 @@
 ;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 ;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
 
-;;; This file returns a manifest containing release-critical bit, for all the
-;;; supported architectures and cross-compilation targets.
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which are needed by the
+;;; installer.
 
-(use-modules (gnu packages)
-             (guix packages)
-             (guix profiles)
-             ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
+(use-modules (guix packages)
              ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
              (guix utils)
-             (guix gexp)
-             (srfi srfi-1)
-             (srfi srfi-26))
+             (srfi srfi-1))
 
 (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
                                    #:key target)
@@ -45,131 +41,46 @@ (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
                             (%current-target-system target))
             package))))
 
-(define %base-packages
-  ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix supports.
-  (map specification->package
-       '("bootstrap-tarballs" "gcc-toolchain" "nss-certs"
-         "openssh" "emacs" "vim" "python" "guile" "guix")))
-
-(define %base-packages/armhf
-  ;; The guix package doesn't build natively on armhf due to Guile memory
-  ;; issues compiling the package modules
-  (remove (lambda (package)
-            (string=? (package-name package) "guix"))
-          %base-packages))
-
-(define %base-packages/hurd
-  ;; XXX: For now we are less demanding of "i586-gnu".
-  (map specification->package
-       '("coreutils" "grep" "findutils" "gawk" "make"
-         #;"gcc-toolchain" "tar" "xz")))
-
 (define %system-packages
   ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
   (append (map specification->package
-               '("xorg-server" "xfce" "gnome" "mate" "enlightenment"
-                 "openbox" "awesome" "i3-wm" "ratpoison"
+               '("guix"
+                 "gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
+                 "openbox" "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
                  "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
-                 "xlockmore" "slock" "libreoffice"
-                 "connman" "network-manager" "network-manager-applet"
-                 "openssh" "ntp" "tor"
-                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"
-                 "icecat"))
+                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
           %default-xorg-modules))
 
-(define %packages-to-cross-build
-  ;; Packages that must be cross-buildable from x86_64-linux.
-  ;; FIXME: Add (@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc) when <https://bugs.gnu.org/40463>
-  ;; is fixed.
-  (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
-          (map specification->package
-               '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
-                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz"
-                 "hello" "zlib"))))
-
-(define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
-  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work.
-  (map specification->package '("hello")))
-
-(define %cross-bootstrap-targets
-  ;; Cross-compilation triplets for which 'bootstrap-tarballs' must be
-  ;; buildable.
-  '("i586-pc-gnu"
-    "arm-linux-gnueabihf"
-    "aarch64-linux-gnu"))
-
 
 ;;;
 ;;; Manifests.
 ;;;
 
-(define %base-manifest
-  (manifest
-   (append-map (lambda (system)
-                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
-                      (cond ((string=? system "i586-gnu")
-                             %base-packages/hurd)
-                            ((string=? system "armhf-linux")
-                             %base-packages/armhf)
-                            ((string=? system "powerpc64le-linux")
-                             ;; FIXME: Drop 'bootstrap-tarballs' until
-                             ;; <https://bugs.gnu.org/48055> is fixed.
-                             (drop %base-packages 1))
-                            (else
-                             %base-packages))))
-               %cuirass-supported-systems)))
-
 (define %system-manifest
   (manifest
-   (append-map (lambda (system)
-                 ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on some
-                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on non-x86_64, due to Rust.  Filter
-                 ;; them out.
-                 (filter-map (lambda (package)
-                               (and (supported-package? package system)
-                                    (package->manifest-entry* package system)))
-                             %system-packages))
-               '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"))))  ;Guix System
+    (append
+      ;; The linux-libre-*-generic kernel is commonly used on some architectures.
+      (cond
+        ((target-aarch64?)
+         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                     linux-libre-arm64-generic)))
+        ((target-riscv64?)
+         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                     linux-libre-riscv64-generic)))
+        ((target-arm32?)
+         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                     linux-libre-arm-generic)))
+        (else '()))
 
-(define %cross-manifest
-  (manifest
-   (append-map (lambda (target)
-                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
-                           #:target target)
-                      (if (target-mingw? target)
-                          %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
-                          %packages-to-cross-build)))
-               (fold delete (targets)
-                     '(;; Like in (gnu ci), dismiss cross-compilation to x86:
-                       ;; it's pointless.
-                       "x86_64-linux-gnu"
-                       "i686-linux-gnu"
+      ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on some
+      ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter them out.
+      (filter-map (lambda (package)
+                    (and (supported-package? package (%current-system))
+                         (package->manifest-entry package)))
+                  %system-packages))))
 
-                       ;; Ignore obsolete systems, as in (gnu ci).
-                       "mips64el-linux-gnu"
-                       "powerpc-linux-gnu"
-                       "powerpc64-linux-gnu"
-
-                       ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
-                       "avr"
-                       "or1k-elf"
-                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf"
-
-                       ;; XXX: Important bits like libsigsegv and libffi don't
-                       ;; support RISCV at the moment, so don't require RISCV
-                       ;; support.
-                       "riscv64-linux-gnu")))))
-
-(define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
-  (manifest
-   (map (lambda (target)
-          (package->manifest-entry*
-           (specification->package "bootstrap-tarballs")
-           "x86_64-linux" #:target target))
-        %cross-bootstrap-targets)))
-
-;; Return the union of all three manifests.
-(concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
-                             %system-manifest
-                             %cross-manifest
-                             %cross-bootstrap-manifest))
+%system-manifest
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* etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm: New file.

Change-Id: I63ac4014617e8d716c508a04c6da553e36a99fec
---
 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 167 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm

diff --git a/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..280489cc19a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/etc/manifests/cross-compile.scm
@@ -0,0 +1,167 @@
+;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
+;;; Copyright © 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
+;;;
+;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
+;;; under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+;;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at
+;;; your option) any later version.
+;;;
+;;; GNU Guix is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
+;;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+;;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
+;;; GNU General Public License for more details.
+;;;
+;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
+
+;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which should all cross-compile.
+;;; We use the packages included by default in an OS configuration since that is
+;;; (probably) the most likely install method for some architectures.
+
+(use-modules (gnu packages)
+             (guix packages)
+             (guix profiles)
+             (guix platform)
+             ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
+             ((gnu system) #:prefix gnu-system:
+                           #:select (%base-packages %base-packages-linux))
+             (guix utils)
+             (guix gexp)
+             (srfi srfi-1)
+             (srfi srfi-26))
+
+(define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
+                                   #:key target)
+  "Return a manifest entry for PACKAGE on SYSTEM, optionally cross-compiled to
+TARGET."
+  (manifest-entry
+    (inherit (package->manifest-entry package))
+    (name (string-append (package-name package) "." system
+                         (if target
+                             (string-append "." target)
+                             "'")))
+    (item (with-parameters ((%current-system system)
+                            (%current-target-system target))
+            package))))
+
+(define %base-packages
+  ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix supports.
+  ;; Use the %base-packages from (gnu system) since they are included by default
+  ;; in the packages field of the operating system configuration.
+  (cons* (specification->package "guix")
+         gnu-system:%base-packages))
+
+(define %base-packages/hurd
+  ;; Remove the packages from %base-packages-linux and some of the packages
+  ;; from the other package sets.
+  (fold delete %base-packages
+        (append (map specification->package
+                     '("e2fsprogs" "kbd" "iproute2" "iw" "wireless-tools"))
+                %base-packages-linux)))
+
+(define %system-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (map specification->package
+       '("openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
+         "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp" "cups"
+         "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid")))
+
+(define %system-gui-packages
+  ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
+  (append (map specification->package
+               '("enlightenment"
+                 ;; build system `python' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"gnome" "xfce" "mate" "openbox"
+                 "awesome"
+                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
+                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
+                 ;; build system `emacs' does not support cross builds
+                 ;"emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
+                 "emacs"))
+          %default-xorg-modules))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build
+  ;; Packages that must be cross-buildable from x86_64-linux.
+  ;; FIXME: Add (@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc) when <https://bugs.gnu.org/40463>
+  ;; is fixed.
+  (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
+          (map specification->package
+               '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
+                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz" "zstd"
+                 "hello" "zlib"))))
+
+(define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to work
+  ;; to test that the cross-compiler itself works.
+  (map specification->package '("hello")))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Manifests.
+;;;
+
+;; As per the Guix Survey of 2024 we only worry about cross compiling from
+;; x86_64-linux (98% of users) and not from others (aarch64 with 19%).
+(define %cross-manifest
+  (manifest
+    (append-map (lambda (target)
+                  (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                            #:target target)
+                       (if (target-mingw? target)
+                           %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
+                           %packages-to-cross-build)))
+                (fold delete (targets)
+                      '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                        "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; mips64el commonly targets a different architecture
+                        ;; revision than we targeted in Guix.
+                        "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+
+                        ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
+                        "avr"
+                        "or1k-elf"
+                        "xtensa-ath9k-elf")))))
+
+(define %cross-system
+  (manifest
+    (cons*
+      ;; Include a couple of extra kernels that are commonly used:
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "aarch64-linux-gnu")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-arm-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "arm-linux-gnueabihf")
+      (package->manifest-entry* (@ (gnu packages linux)
+                                   linux-libre-riscv64-generic)
+                                "x86_64-linux"
+                                #:target "riscv64-linux-gnu")
+      (append-map (lambda (target)
+                    (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
+                              #:target target)
+                         (append %base-packages
+                                 %system-packages
+                                 ;; With a graphical environment:
+                                 (if (or (target-x86-32? target)
+                                         (target-aarch64? target))
+                                     %system-gui-packages
+                                     '()))))
+                  (fold delete (map platform-system->target (systems))
+                        '(;; Disable cross-compilation to self:
+                          "x86_64-linux-gnu"
+
+                          ;; Ignore obsolete systems, as in (gnu ci).
+                          "mips64el-linux-gnu"
+                          "powerpc-linux-gnu"))))))
+
+;; Return the union of all the manifests.
+(concatenate-manifests (list %cross-manifest
+                             %cross-system))
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On 2025-02-19, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> Also, in reviewing the copyright and license headers while packaging for
> Debian, this raised a broader question about translating license headers
> in files such as doc/guix.de.info:
>
>   https://salsa.debian.org/debian/guix/-/blob/debian/latest/doc/guix.de.info#L93
>
> With my limited german, it is clearly a header to declare the file is
> released under the GFDL in some form, but I wonder if that is a good
> idea to translate the license headers ... as at least in the US, in
> order to ship that file I would maybe need to at least consult with a
> lawyer (the US only recognizes English for legal documents), and I
> suspect various other countries might need something similar for
> arbitrary languages... having to get a lawyer involved kind of kills the
> joy of free software and the goal of free distribution...

For clarity, the US does recognize contracts and whatnot under other
languages, but requires a *certified* translation of the document into
English, which may also require getting legal counsel and in my opinion,
kind of defeats the purpose of free software at that point... as one
cannot freely share it without fear of undue legal burdens...

At least, that is my entirely not-a-lawyer concern...

Since this is only shipped in this form whe running "make dist"
... well, seems relevent for the release process. :)

live well,
  vagrant

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On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 02:48:59PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I think something we need to do urgently is to run an ungrafting
> process - grafting takes a considerable amount of time when updating my
> system now, and I suppose it will also waste a bit of space. We should
> not burden the installation process with it.
>=20
> Did we not have a jobset on ci to automate this?
>=20
> As said in Brussels, I would be happy to test a new installation image
> on a further x86_64 I would like to get running Guix.

We do have an ungrafting job, but it needs to be tweaked to exclude the
glibc graft.  I agree that we need to do an ungrafting run before a
release but I'm not sure we're at the pre-release ungraft yet.  An
ungraft run in general would be a good thing.

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On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 02:06:43PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On 2025-02-15, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> > On 2025-02-11, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> >> We discussed the next release during Guix Days and I volunteered to le=
ad
> >> the effort.
> ...
> > I may just make an attempt at making a git snapshot or something, which
> > I did once in the distant past... any recommendations on a particular
> > commit to aim at? Even an alpha or release candidate or whatever tag
> > would be nice...
>=20
> So, in order to try this, the first thing I needed to do was remember
> how to run "make dist" to generate the tarball...
>=20
> Basically from a clean git checkout:
>=20
>   guix git tag v1.4.0+XYZ HEAD # I used f7cd085f4a36e118aa05af5524e74830a=
30b3dca
>   guix git authenticate && \
>   guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick p=
erl graphviz less -- ./bootstrap && \
>   guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick p=
erl graphviz less -- ./configure && \
>   guix shell --container --pure --development guix guix git imagemagick p=
erl graphviz less -- make -j1 dist
>=20
> Not sure if that is the "right" way or if there is better
> documentation... ?

I think there is/was a 'make dist' cuirass job, but I've never actually
looked at it closely.  The guix.scm and manifest.scm both are in use,
but I could see putting together a make-dist.scm manifest, probably in
etc/manifests, and then documenting (somewhere) that it exists.  Or
putting the command in as a comment in the Makefile.

> Running "make -j5 dist" failed in various ways... so there are probably
> some undefined dependencies.
>=20
> graphviz was needed otherwise the bootstrap-graph.pdf failed to build
> (graphviz-minimal gets pulled in by "--development guix" but does not
> support .pdf generation).
>=20
> The other inputs, well, they're just from the last times I tried running
> "make dist"! maybe they are no longer needed, maybe the are!
>=20
>=20
> The generated tarball also appears to be missing a few files, some of
> which seem fine (e.g. .gitignore) but some which actually cause problems
> (e.g. missing po4a.cfg, tests/*.scm, gnu/patches/*.patch), some of which
> probably should be added to dist_patch_DATA in gnu/local.mk or other
> relevent values:
>=20
>   Only in ../guix-master/build-aux: cuirass
>   Only in ../guix-master/build-aux: gitlog-to-changelog
>   Only in ../guix-master: .editorconfig
>   Only in ../guix-master/etc: copyright.el
>   Only in ../guix-master/etc: git
>   Only in ../guix-master/etc: snippets
>   Only in ../guix-master/etc: teams
>   Only in ../guix-master/etc: teams.scm
>   Only in ../guix-master: .gitattributes
>   Only in ../guix-master: .gitignore
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: cyrus-sasl-ac-try-run-fix.=
patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: gcc-10-tree-sra-union-hand=
ling.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: gegl-compatibility-old-lib=
rsvg.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: go-github-com-skip2-go-qrc=
ode-fix-tests.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: librewolf-neuter-locale-do=
wnload.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: openjdk-15-jtask-reproduci=
bility.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: python-pytorch-for-r-torch=
-fix-codegen.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: python-pytorch-for-r-torch=
-system-libraries.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: rdkit-unbundle-external-de=
pendencies.patch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/packages/patches: tinydir-fix-cbehave-test.p=
atch
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: bare-hurd64.tmpl
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: devel-hurd64.tmpl
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/system/examples: devel-hurd.tmpl
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/tests: lightdm.scm
>   Only in ../guix-master/gnu/tests: sddm.scm
>   Only in ../guix-master: .mailmap
>   Only in ../guix-master: .mumi
>   Only in ../guix-master/nix: .gitignore
>   Only in ../guix-master/nix/libstore: .gitignore
>   Only in ../guix-master: .patman
>   Only in ../guix-master/po/doc: po4a.cfg
>   Only in ../guix-master/tests: hexpm.scm
>   Only in ../guix-master/tests: ipfs.scm

I saw a suggestion elsewhere to use pattern globbing for some stuff in
the Makefile. I only saw files ending in .patch in gnu/packages/patches,
and apparently we have over 1500 files there.  I'm guessing we could do
something similar with the .tmpl files in gnu/system/examples and
perhaps other places too.

>=20
> I also fixed a bunch of typos, spelling, grammar, etc. that my workflow
> building Guix in Debian detects in various package
> synopsis/descriptions, and seem to have inspired others to do the same!
> :)

The package python-codespell has the codespell binary, and is something
I use occasionally to find typos.

> In this process I also found a bug that caused "make dist" to fail due
> to embedded store paths, and pushed a fix to guix.git as
> 0626f567378cf549fd097f3c3372fa498000a8a3.
>=20
>=20
> Also, in reviewing the copyright and license headers while packaging for
> Debian, this raised a broader question about translating license headers
> in files such as doc/guix.de.info:
>=20
>   https://salsa.debian.org/debian/guix/-/blob/debian/latest/doc/guix.de.i=
nfo#L93
>=20
> With my limited german, it is clearly a header to declare the file is
> released under the GFDL in some form, but I wonder if that is a good
> idea to translate the license headers ... as at least in the US, in
> order to ship that file I would maybe need to at least consult with a
> lawyer (the US only recognizes English for legal documents), and I
> suspect various other countries might need something similar for
> arbitrary languages... having to get a lawyer involved kind of kills the
> joy of free software and the goal of free distribution...
>=20
> This of course touches on some awful issues around language
> imperialism. :/
>=20
>=20
> live well,
>   vagrant



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On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 02:39:53PM +0200, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> * etc/manifests/release.scm (%system-packages): Adjust the packages
> which are depended upon by the installer.  Add a set of extra packages
> which we expect to have available.
> (%base-packages, %base-packages/armhf, %base-packages/hurd,
> %packages-to-cross-build, %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw,
> %cross-bootstrap-targets, %base-manifest, %cross-manifest,
> %cross-bootstrap-manifest): Remove variables.
>=20
> Change-Id: I5806fff6bc38d14859f6d7163719841620e28d09
> ---
>  etc/manifests/release.scm | 155 ++++++++------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 122 deletions(-)
>=20
> diff --git a/etc/manifests/release.scm b/etc/manifests/release.scm
> index b003f216fff..f69ab316ca4 100644
> --- a/etc/manifests/release.scm
> +++ b/etc/manifests/release.scm
> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
>  ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020-2022, 2024 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN>
>  ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2020 Jan (janneke) Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
>  ;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2023 Andreas Enge <andreas@HIDDEN>
> +;;; Copyright =C2=A9 2025 Efraim Flashner <efraim@HIDDEN>
>  ;;;
>  ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
>  ;;;
> @@ -18,18 +19,13 @@
>  ;;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
>  ;;; along with GNU Guix.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
> =20
> -;;; This file returns a manifest containing release-critical bit, for al=
l the
> -;;; supported architectures and cross-compilation targets.
> +;;; This file returns a manifest containing packages which are needed by=
 the
> +;;; installer.
> =20
> -(use-modules (gnu packages)
> -             (guix packages)
> -             (guix profiles)
> -             ((guix platform) #:select (targets))
> +(use-modules (guix packages)
>               ((gnu services xorg) #:select (%default-xorg-modules))
>               (guix utils)
> -             (guix gexp)
> -             (srfi srfi-1)
> -             (srfi srfi-26))
> +             (srfi srfi-1))
> =20
>  (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
>                                     #:key target)
> @@ -45,131 +41,46 @@ (define* (package->manifest-entry* package system
>                              (%current-target-system target))
>              package))))
> =20
> -(define %base-packages
> -  ;; Packages that must be substitutable on all the platforms Guix suppo=
rts.
> -  (map specification->package
> -       '("bootstrap-tarballs" "gcc-toolchain" "nss-certs"
> -         "openssh" "emacs" "vim" "python" "guile" "guix")))
> -
> -(define %base-packages/armhf
> -  ;; The guix package doesn't build natively on armhf due to Guile memory
> -  ;; issues compiling the package modules
> -  (remove (lambda (package)
> -            (string=3D? (package-name package) "guix"))
> -          %base-packages))
> -
> -(define %base-packages/hurd
> -  ;; XXX: For now we are less demanding of "i586-gnu".
> -  (map specification->package
> -       '("coreutils" "grep" "findutils" "gawk" "make"
> -         #;"gcc-toolchain" "tar" "xz")))
> -
>  (define %system-packages
>    ;; Key packages proposed by the Guix System installer.
>    (append (map specification->package
> -               '("xorg-server" "xfce" "gnome" "mate" "enlightenment"
> -                 "openbox" "awesome" "i3-wm" "ratpoison"
> +               '("guix"
> +                 "gnome" "xfce" "mate" "enlightenment"
> +                 "openbox" "awesome"
> +                 "i3-wm" "i3status" "dmenu" "st"
> +                 "ratpoison" "xterm"
>                   "emacs" "emacs-exwm" "emacs-desktop-environment"
> -                 "xlockmore" "slock" "libreoffice"
> -                 "connman" "network-manager" "network-manager-applet"
> -                 "openssh" "ntp" "tor"
> -                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"
> -                 "icecat"))
> +                 "openssh" "tor" "ntp" "gpm"
> +                 "connman" "network-manager" "wpa-supplicant" "isc-dhcp"=
 "cups"
> +                 "linux-libre" "grub-hybrid"))
>            %default-xorg-modules))
> =20
> -(define %packages-to-cross-build
> -  ;; Packages that must be cross-buildable from x86_64-linux.
> -  ;; FIXME: Add (@ (gnu packages gcc) gcc) when <https://bugs.gnu.org/40=
463>
> -  ;; is fixed.
> -  (append (list (@ (gnu packages guile) guile-3.0/pinned))
> -          (map specification->package
> -               '("coreutils" "grep" "sed" "findutils" "diffutils" "patch"
> -                 "gawk" "gettext" "gzip" "xz"
> -                 "hello" "zlib"))))
> -
> -(define %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
> -  ;; Many things don't build for MinGW.  Restrict to what's known to wor=
k.
> -  (map specification->package '("hello")))
> -
> -(define %cross-bootstrap-targets
> -  ;; Cross-compilation triplets for which 'bootstrap-tarballs' must be
> -  ;; buildable.
> -  '("i586-pc-gnu"
> -    "arm-linux-gnueabihf"
> -    "aarch64-linux-gnu"))
> -
>  =0C
>  ;;;
>  ;;; Manifests.
>  ;;;
> =20
> -(define %base-manifest
> -  (manifest
> -   (append-map (lambda (system)
> -                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> system)
> -                      (cond ((string=3D? system "i586-gnu")
> -                             %base-packages/hurd)
> -                            ((string=3D? system "armhf-linux")
> -                             %base-packages/armhf)
> -                            ((string=3D? system "powerpc64le-linux")
> -                             ;; FIXME: Drop 'bootstrap-tarballs' until
> -                             ;; <https://bugs.gnu.org/48055> is fixed.
> -                             (drop %base-packages 1))
> -                            (else
> -                             %base-packages))))
> -               %cuirass-supported-systems)))
> -
>  (define %system-manifest
>    (manifest
> -   (append-map (lambda (system)
> -                 ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported o=
n some
> -                 ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on non-x86_64, due to Rust.  Fi=
lter
> -                 ;; them out.
> -                 (filter-map (lambda (package)
> -                               (and (supported-package? package system)
> -                                    (package->manifest-entry* package sy=
stem)))
> -                             %system-packages))
> -               '("x86_64-linux" "i686-linux"))))  ;Guix System
> +    (append
> +      ;; The linux-libre-*-generic kernel is commonly used on some archi=
tectures.
> +      (cond

These 3 need to be wrapped in a list

> +        ((target-aarch64?)
> +         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
> +                                     linux-libre-arm64-generic)))
> +        ((target-riscv64?)
> +         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
> +                                     linux-libre-riscv64-generic)))
> +        ((target-arm32?)
> +         (package->manifest-entry (@ (gnu packages linux)
> +                                     linux-libre-arm-generic)))
> +        (else '()))
> =20
> -(define %cross-manifest
> -  (manifest
> -   (append-map (lambda (target)
> -                 (map (cut package->manifest-entry* <> "x86_64-linux"
> -                           #:target target)
> -                      (if (target-mingw? target)
> -                          %packages-to-cross-build-for-mingw
> -                          %packages-to-cross-build)))
> -               (fold delete (targets)
> -                     '(;; Like in (gnu ci), dismiss cross-compilation to=
 x86:
> -                       ;; it's pointless.
> -                       "x86_64-linux-gnu"
> -                       "i686-linux-gnu"
> +      ;; Some of %SYSTEM-PACKAGES are currently unsupported on some
> +      ;; systems--e.g., GNOME on 32-bit, due to Rust.  Filter them out.
> +      (filter-map (lambda (package)
> +                    (and (supported-package? package (%current-system))
> +                         (package->manifest-entry package)))
> +                  %system-packages))))
> =20
> -                       ;; Ignore obsolete systems, as in (gnu ci).
> -                       "mips64el-linux-gnu"
> -                       "powerpc-linux-gnu"
> -                       "powerpc64-linux-gnu"
> -
> -                       ;; Ignore bare-metal targets.
> -                       "avr"
> -                       "or1k-elf"
> -                       "xtensa-ath9k-elf"
> -
> -                       ;; XXX: Important bits like libsigsegv and libffi=
 don't
> -                       ;; support RISCV at the moment, so don't require =
RISCV
> -                       ;; support.
> -                       "riscv64-linux-gnu")))))
> -
> -(define %cross-bootstrap-manifest
> -  (manifest
> -   (map (lambda (target)
> -          (package->manifest-entry*
> -           (specification->package "bootstrap-tarballs")
> -           "x86_64-linux" #:target target))
> -        %cross-bootstrap-targets)))
> -
> -;; Return the union of all three manifests.
> -(concatenate-manifests (list %base-manifest
> -                             %system-manifest
> -                             %cross-manifest
> -                             %cross-bootstrap-manifest))
> +%system-manifest
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Hello Vagrant.

Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@HIDDEN> writes:
> Also, in reviewing the copyright and license headers while packaging for
> Debian, this raised a broader question about translating license headers
> in files such as doc/guix.de.info:
>
>   https://salsa.debian.org/debian/guix/-/blob/debian/latest/doc/guix.de.i=
nfo#L93
>
> With my limited german, it is clearly a header to declare the file is
> released under the GFDL in some form, but I wonder if that is a good
> idea to translate the license headers ... as at least in the US, in
> order to ship that file I would maybe need to at least consult with a
> lawyer (the US only recognizes English for legal documents), and I
> suspect various other countries might need something similar for
> arbitrary languages... having to get a lawyer involved kind of kills the
> joy of free software and the goal of free distribution...
>
> This of course touches on some awful issues around language
> imperialism. :/
>
> [=E2=80=A6]
> For clarity, the US does recognize contracts and whatnot under other
> languages, but requires a *certified* translation of the document into
> English, which may also require getting legal counsel and in my opinion,
> kind of defeats the purpose of free software at that point... as one
> cannot freely share it without fear of undue legal burdens...
>=20
> At least, that is my entirely not-a-lawyer concern...
>=20
> Since this is only shipped in this form whe running "make dist"
> ... well, seems relevent for the release process. :)
>=20
> live well,
>   vagrant

We should translate license notices.  It is harmless.

My German translation of the GFDL header is derived from unofficial
translations of older GFDL version 1.2, linked at German Wikipedia and
clearly uncertified.

IANAL neither, but my defense of the current translated license headers
in manual, website and such would be that translated manual, website are
clearly marked as a translation in the first paragraph or website
header.  Clearly the original license applies and in some sentences the
translator also has copyright.  More clearly, deviation from the license
text in translations is an error.  The full English license is still
part of doc/guix.de.info and other languages.  So the English license
would likely apply.

Generally translation seems not to be a source of dispute in court.  I
believe I remember in court cases of Software Freedom Conservancy, all
parties agreed to use an unofficial German GPL translation.  So
generally translation seems not to be a source of dispute.  But I could
not anymore find example cases.  It was not the VMWare lawsuit.

Regards,
Florian

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