Received: (at 76275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2025 16:12:19 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 15 12:12:18 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ttU7W-0005IQ-C0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:12:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttU7T-0005Hx-MB for 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:12:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttU7O-0008Jd-1E; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:12:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=OOmB0GI2onWVlK1BzuFLOAm8p7g6pGtgfP5C6CYTq4M=; b=TJIsyf6Z7vAM gf6EqhZ71PRSDQeHlRhDaGVlc2XlodvAmZCNPCmz8d8FnzlYRQ35AgqExDxOExIJHyX+f19aryDe4 uuGORKRzil8HoVUVUOXB/TsONS0KnaADP/z49vlbnOIk4OIr2CczlYpB8JZwa7Cd7QZ5LCGoiE6OY W6pebusGIk1p3fsFPFZVhN5lGqKpclb/aS6n204t6Jel4UdLes5WGvlO3Klo6T7KCysKNx4ktH+7z vqEJodZIEBi//TytVWdPFGcZwWTZi5i+Zky9QiQc0ai2lV9lYXqxlteLFay7KX6A9Yql2ov4RcEMj Mm0Y89uXMwGtmPRUARAb0A==; Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:12:04 +0200 Message-Id: <86y0x6uvcb.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <ec54644f-0699-44e1-8dc3-8fbbd42eea16@HIDDEN> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:09:20 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on recent master References: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> <189b7ade-865e-4aab-8a2d-fee25ab856f7@HIDDEN> <874j0tmkkq.fsf@HIDDEN> <df12480c-9619-4eed-a487-fdc2cbe0c017@HIDDEN> <874j0sixki.fsf@HIDDEN> <9d1dc4c7-e70d-477b-833c-c3a6827735df@HIDDEN> <87pljefrj9.fsf@HIDDEN> <cda776b7-c8f9-468b-88f2-b070a5752741@HIDDEN> <87ldu2feyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a4872417-0840-4693-b458-be648adb6ea3@HIDDEN> <87jz9m1abq.fsf@HIDDEN> <f360fea9-ceec-4c9f-b335-6bc616f23891@HIDDEN> <ab0ab497-3d28-4989-b056-c4364f6952a6@HIDDEN> <86y0xwhpyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a50fd03a-2e27-4c2c-a9de-78e15e5f3c8f@HIDDEN> <86ldtvxh7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <c09cf61f-88f1-4509-829d-b3f819c4324d@HIDDEN> <86cyf3tpqz.fsf@HIDDEN> <f6b148fd-4eb0-4d32-a2ba-9eda6ab5891f@HIDDEN> <86ikous349.fsf@HIDDEN> <4af92266-488d-4c50-a05c-42156aa005dc@HIDDEN> <8734fv97s4.fsf@HIDDEN> <865xkay2a4.fsf@HIDDEN> <ec54644f-0699-44e1-8dc3-8fbbd42eea16@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN, spwhitton@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:09:20 +0100 > Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN > From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> > > > So what changes in the documentation would you suggest, and where? > > I'm afraid that neither Sean nor I can give you a satisfactory answer. I'm still willing to wait for Sean to chime in, perhaps he does have an idea. In any case, if we cannot satisfactorily document this variable, the prudent thing is to remove it from the manual. Because that means its use is only for experts who know the subtle aspects of the variable and its effects. > Setting 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' to 'force' in that period can > help or harm and the outcome may depend on the GTK version and the WM > used. It's a heuristic that might work or not. One more reason not to document it.
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Full text available.Received: (at 76275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2025 11:14:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 15 07:14:10 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39140 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1ttPT0-0001jF-39 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 07:14:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttPSx-0001ik-NI for 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 07:14:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1ttPSr-0007X0-Mq; Sat, 15 Mar 2025 07:14:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Yt8IXjJSJIuvZ/CG+kII272ehuegt31hyq3PTEzGFvM=; b=LHVs1jI+XUjc d2lirtK0Rso3mcfMUVZyEfqwI2v2E7aiorRKAQOhhxr6c8b8vLJl8nghqhDaUvzam1UEpG6UV+0Pi vQINV+wu6UoMzJAzYEdOxzIEoMSylb+oN6XYm4aEINLfEruLTjlJYJVmGuusRRhMGlSogsSzZRT0s LUDr+UWPLcTgztf+n8Jab+DUOkaAuXB8K5VM16BT0JYynJSde58mmZukvibTQXIZ982vwk0USu5jC c7VXNbW3fK2IZkWztQMsZYMItOqcDBtAziROh7dMgt9StlbMEomvof9OdgexjmR6Sy2iaFrki882e H2w/oDot3pTZXn6Of4rVUQ==; Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 13:13:55 +0200 Message-Id: <865xkay2a4.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8734fv97s4.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Sean Whitton on Sun, 02 Mar 2025 16:05:47 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on recent master References: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> <189b7ade-865e-4aab-8a2d-fee25ab856f7@HIDDEN> <874j0tmkkq.fsf@HIDDEN> <df12480c-9619-4eed-a487-fdc2cbe0c017@HIDDEN> <874j0sixki.fsf@HIDDEN> <9d1dc4c7-e70d-477b-833c-c3a6827735df@HIDDEN> <87pljefrj9.fsf@HIDDEN> <cda776b7-c8f9-468b-88f2-b070a5752741@HIDDEN> <87ldu2feyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a4872417-0840-4693-b458-be648adb6ea3@HIDDEN> <87jz9m1abq.fsf@HIDDEN> <f360fea9-ceec-4c9f-b335-6bc616f23891@HIDDEN> <ab0ab497-3d28-4989-b056-c4364f6952a6@HIDDEN> <86y0xwhpyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a50fd03a-2e27-4c2c-a9de-78e15e5f3c8f@HIDDEN> <86ldtvxh7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <c09cf61f-88f1-4509-829d-b3f819c4324d@HIDDEN> <86cyf3tpqz.fsf@HIDDEN> <f6b148fd-4eb0-4d32-a2ba-9eda6ab5891f@HIDDEN> <86ikous349.fsf@HIDDEN> <4af92266-488d-4c50-a05c-42156aa005dc@HIDDEN> <8734fv97s4.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@HIDDEN, shipmints@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> > Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN > Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 16:05:47 +0800 > > Hello, > > On Fri 28 Feb 2025 at 04:10pm +01, martin rudalics wrote: > > >> If you understand why Sean sees a difference, please tell why, and I > >> will try to see how to document that. > > > > Maybe Sean can tell. Note that with my examples I never set any > > parameters, don't consults X resources and use no init file. Results > > might differ with any of these set or used. > > I believe that what might be unclear in my case is how > window-size-change-functions is meant to apply to the creation of a new > frame, rather than the easier case of resizing an existing frame. > > If you assume that window-size-change-functions are applied relatively > early in frame creation, and then read the current documentation, it all > makes sense: "ah yes, my window-size-change-functions entry was changing > the font size early, such that Emacs wouldn't consider the final initial > size of the frame to have been agreed, yet, until after my code has run. > So I need `force'." > > But I don't know whether that is a correct assumption to make. So what changes in the documentation would you suggest, and where?
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'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' was primarily intended for the latter. We only see now how it can affect the creation of new frames. We set the can_set_window_size slot as late as possible during frame creation, that is we try to delay the impact of 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' as long as possible anyway. But eventually we do have to run into redisplay: IIUC on the one hand because with some builds we draw menu and tool bars ourselves and want to have a unified flow of frame creation. On the other hand, because elements on these bars depend on the buffer shown in the initial window and its major mode. What would be interesting with your setup would be to find out in which case(s) the return values of frame_inhibit_resize differ when 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' is t from when it is 'force. Then we could explain better how these settings influence initial resizing. martin
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#76275; Package emacs.
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Note that with my examples I never set any > parameters, don't consults X resources and use no init file. Results > might differ with any of these set or used. I believe that what might be unclear in my case is how window-size-change-functions is meant to apply to the creation of a new frame, rather than the easier case of resizing an existing frame. If you assume that window-size-change-functions are applied relatively early in frame creation, and then read the current documentation, it all makes sense: "ah yes, my window-size-change-functions entry was changing the font size early, such that Emacs wouldn't consider the final initial size of the frame to have been agreed, yet, until after my code has run. So I need `force'." But I don't know whether that is a correct assumption to make. -- Sean Whitton
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Maybe Sean can tell. Note that with my examples I never set any parameters, don't consults X resources and use no init file. Results might differ with any of these set or used. > Is the GTK case the only one you know of when these two settings yield > different effects? The GTK build is the only one with an external tool bar. With 'tool-bar-mode' turned off, all three examples produce the same height of 792 pixels. martin
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Jma8eSHfr1dwto3cOfW8D1jQuEZKc+B9tjIigjm+jNfZYO9cFQL WQsABTCV3xVXdIz7pLT4b8vbAit4Wmv38+ud3IXGfCylL9IATPCBZBukZPfI7IW+EVmEmDX oVZC/WW8F5QppVICbHcIh3z+8IWE3Ki4u/IIO3RMUJosumOnXAxEjc04zO61qqckYHQs5Bb a8Fn3njUTxEOKXHwRVDjg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:JGVMpbbHeE4=;mPbeW7amintdGLFwb173PjuoPR2 CimAcOpa5qxIgRijtQ8CyId021/6sXlyDfQx34bq2/nHs6N/I/EykMSL+A9A4a02AmikL//ao egw3iVup0RQECUA1A/HiJJ0dqKE4ggAn4ipgnfJcNuVoVuGvaQNhm91jojl4MsRviU8SAbNxH /T4koHje0+Yp4P81QtGKoAJAxfkat3VnTdbi86OT+toFyBkVe0spaa1M1V7UulK2rSdQPdMuV QZrsp/u5JTKCrqlbhs0Ox6ywSIjVVJnwvA3b8thumV6Y7PvNSbI2QBJ0TzscqnrqHn+AKk0sg R+CzZIVVN5zxwEdRWB/8OOYF//slO27zrr+dpmgPmvsF7Af14qCS10+HlXpcUFwzlJ65h3SwD DJYasE63niGPxUk2oizEVc4O5O5ZONymBbxLgQocOBSptPfY3AcgexyYy7aHzKeqCO78EVqeE i/P7lXHQqlCdDkjU9dLwzKDCQl72fdtxucQ2IjzLiNfjw8vHbpRg179/ucAJ+jATPVp0DwCnF mSH9RuKddDLc1qQSU3H1PMLkSMNiLxXV5YfRZJGqOAHLzOZ6ulYeUMwTsrjamo29JtdBBFST2 WNB+bqZwQ2tIE1HeUXzIJIPZoqPg99xXSYLxdI+1LA1FlWh5pvqEZxHkAch+bgnmrGnaV9Zgq QFQBi3kUpjBu+99jbE4gH76LT/6BC12p8NMrWe+lbkOQrWCC2ccKuo/OwwK9xFePt/jwJ8OV/ 5wbHinv0tgHrssRz9CCrt7xOHfBSn0NEQa5YtoF/M32Fy5p8PAt07YisTB6sm1KjzuTJqeTor liexHv+fBwzJ3Mr5qt7EzT20UOiCGGbv3w8JdJtbnmWrYFI/UK+pTpHngsYrEoMC71Dz5GFE4 DU8nis9twlkm7ZaSONsKyHVi3gCEAaqp6GOhdPeKGn620TYAOeG1heRdVBhGc4S9ilxfN4MgX D1wwa++UtttmAtcWCDZkvqNonaLh7UK98i5oNjmMFBokKIbJgr1JMWLkjjYtPikTZVCeMMsYe lDK9kOtEPBuSgjoYbbULKn8z8+pSzizEyEqMeDBJj/AkfnkV9QEq8io9kMSJySUyD6GwtcKhc ZApPILl3jpZ++nEInbfDpx2uiBQmfqNIu0IFHaisMWx4gCQ7zVfTZMfFvVhyk4gm9ynVhJtIC ivq2LjDMjUWMcFCh4KT99m5JciwwCSBDcRq0d2p1qXU8hAXpxvXttopnrYJlalqgyk3XNnPo8 8pvCvU8zr+nrWe06vvZmqfwv4DB7zLOW4F8GK0O9Y2CMrrcunK07GarSraGbVZCFJ3lcQ1Tub kM/tFoCu/5P6+vrqygzn+x3VE1HrfQbmhf73NPikMWN+ktgqD+0xv9hIct+oGpbu9DzMt9nLd BvvhG5HDy7sNmXoPtM4SL6QP68AutGWOG+roULXEIQvZ+T/BhFBF9xrckAfwITi9VpwM/+H4y oQyhJZQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN, spwhitton@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Maybe we should instead explain which settings could cause resize with > t, but not with 'force'? Here with a GTK3 build I get the following (frame-pixel-height) / (frame-total-lines) values: emacs -Q ~> 792 / 36 emacs -Q --eval "(setopt frame-inhibit-implied-resize t)" ~> 751 / 34 emacs -Q --eval "(setopt frame-inhibit-implied-resize 'force)" ~> 751 / 34 So with a GTK build here the major difference is between nil and t and there's no difference between t and 'force. Yet Sean sees a difference with t and 'force. And with a Lucid build I get 830 / 37 in all cases. What can I possibly explain? Can you see a difference with these three cases? martin
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Full text available.Received: (at 76275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2025 14:41:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 27 09:41:07 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tnf4U-0001x0-TC for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 09:41:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tnf4Q-0001vX-BH for 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 09:41:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tnf4K-00085X-Bb; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 09:40:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=m3yE0Z18EYy4Ll/dttxr62YSvQde9GENMlOq7ccq+Ag=; b=fuyyK2vsBQcvbsdR8sBl ppiUyUwxAVQN09AAZ/64TaL4oOHX5lB+/KN9fnQAGC7QKq3mEHdVhTYNnVbEtlNWnURe9zu6Ah1a1 ygZtja0y28ta5S8xIkaZLx2/2ZsvEAdQVu/Fqrp+q6it7GecjC59520h0bdO29ie3/LtIi06rgPAu AlekB2hJxafuVoIsmFLuZGDlLDrr41ywhE/wzRSC/k22zEkJLLsqHyiLdSEUxk00gnpcFWMz7I/k0 Bo9dK+x0TeHdkTxTkHrXMvTvYbvBcylDWOA/t1J+mNpmh5lTPzN+DjX4lexPhiGUascPQ0YFxG8cR Yb5eEAGHaY/aPw==; Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:40:36 +0200 Message-Id: <86cyf3tpqz.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <c09cf61f-88f1-4509-829d-b3f819c4324d@HIDDEN> (message from martin rudalics on Tue, 25 Feb 2025 10:25:40 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on recent master References: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> <19d45259-a936-4783-b9b8-d3b97fd3d339@HIDDEN> <871pw056eo.fsf@HIDDEN> <189b7ade-865e-4aab-8a2d-fee25ab856f7@HIDDEN> <874j0tmkkq.fsf@HIDDEN> <df12480c-9619-4eed-a487-fdc2cbe0c017@HIDDEN> <874j0sixki.fsf@HIDDEN> <9d1dc4c7-e70d-477b-833c-c3a6827735df@HIDDEN> <87pljefrj9.fsf@HIDDEN> <cda776b7-c8f9-468b-88f2-b070a5752741@HIDDEN> <87ldu2feyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a4872417-0840-4693-b458-be648adb6ea3@HIDDEN> <87jz9m1abq.fsf@HIDDEN> <f360fea9-ceec-4c9f-b335-6bc616f23891@HIDDEN> <ab0ab497-3d28-4989-b056-c4364f6952a6@HIDDEN> <86y0xwhpyf.fsf@HIDDEN> <a50fd03a-2e27-4c2c-a9de-78e15e5f3c8f@HIDDEN> <86ldtvxh7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <c09cf61f-88f1-4509-829d-b3f819c4324d@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN, spwhitton@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 10:25:40 +0100 > Cc: spwhitton@HIDDEN, 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, shipmints@HIDDEN > From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> > > > How about if, instead of saying what kinds of resizing will NOT > > happen, we say what WILL happen? The resizing seems to have two > > stages, so maybe we should describe them, since the 3 settings of this > > option seem to control which stage(s) is/are allowed to happen? What > > happens in the stage until "Emacs agrees with the window manager on > > the frame size"? what causes the resize in this stage, and what is not > > taken into account? And what is the second stage of the resize? > > > > Also, the use of "initial size" is confusing, especially when you say > > "final initial size". What is the importance of the "initial" here? > > The initial size of a frame can be specified by ‘initial-frame-alist’, > 'default-frame-alist' and X resources, among others. A non-initial > frame size is one specified by 'set-frame-height', 'set-frame-width' or > modifying a frame parameter. 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' t affects > the non-initial part only. Conceptually, because nothing hinders people > from interspersing the latter with the former. > > In the Initial Frame Parameters section we say that > > If these settings affect the frame geometry and appearance, you’ll > see the frame appear with the wrong ones and then change to the > specified ones. If that bothers you, you can specify the same > geometry and appearance with X resources; those do take effect > before the frame is created. *Note X Resources: (emacs)X > Resources. > > The "final" initial size is the one that can be seen and retrieved after > the "change to the specified ones". It can be seen by users who wait > for an unspecified period of time, but still long enough, until the size > of the frame has stabilized on screen. With an initially invisible or > iconified frame it can be seen only after the frame has been made > visible for the first time. > > With GTK this moment happens after the tool bar has been updated for the > first time which is triggered by redisplay and usually happens some time > after Emacs considers a frame official - that is after is had added the > frame to 'frame-list' and run 'after-make-frame-functions'. > > So ultimately, for GTK the difference of the values 't' and 'force' for > 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' is determined by redisplay_tool_bar in > xdisp.c and update_frame_tool_bar in gtkutil.c and I have no good idea > how to explain these moments in the manual. Maybe we should instead explain which settings could cause resize with t, but not with 'force'?
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I'm confused by "no > resizing once a frame has obtained its initial size" vs "no implicit > resizing whenever a new frame is made". This seems to imply that > there are several stages in the resizing, but they are not explicitly > described. I've tried to be more verbose in the manual and the doc-string now. Please have a look. Thanks, martin
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As soon as I know how to fix my commit settings, yes. martin
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If implied resizing changes the frame's size it can. Principally, you should not worry, especially if implied resizing is inhibited. The caveat is here so people will double-check whether their code works as intended. If it doesn't, the culprit might be in the wrong ordering of functions on those hooks. This might impact window-old-.. functions values and those of 'old-selected-window' ... martin
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Full text available.Received: (at 76275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2025 09:42:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 04:42:51 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tkgbT-0007vH-AV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:42:51 -0500 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:44760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <spwhitton@HIDDEN>) id 1tkgbN-0007ug-6m for 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:42:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=CUPo6yjvCbASp73CRAmqSSFTCP9bbIGG7I5I647NhlnYUlJ37GIxMFueDz43bKWV76bZMTyLIZ8sMoo9jD8xib5694Ds2lQi+UauWfjEypsxPmc28lDUFAT1CoQQhI3zAYF4isDmUlLlRdld2NIeOfVd17/brI9T5vajUaXmox+H+7qZXDrApjSt3957pHe/Hu9p3tTUjv3hGxMkqbzO8tHqoTgHNtLTnHjiSossTnvBF+8ZtdLGmuunYuTXLW2zZ84VheaSR4czEoP8+7p18F68pAESoMMFpY7pWPlY1n1OYM4fFFGSF1bMEzLcsKyNx5eDLc+/kFOnStE9plc3zg==; s=purelymail1; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=iOeB81nAPS2stZSEbdZRQa6ijU1xCJlAET2xDco/sdE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=bNgE0df3cyIz7pMj//A3gh4homJnxpv3fhfwQ1ZRcfMz4y0LV4bu8eamDRzVuCmkEzjK0NVZZsz++ChWlLqBJE5ZqaWNZpu+qk5mx9/0QeWgvixAlQpGxzsF6IihQQgp9dzN8SxFiRB5LnwQYketKrMkNLEYGzPUWq3BfVCuZZcLPcx3YW9DxSsVRPWsjR0EIEFGIa0ZGXETqVT9gYO9eCBdZxe7aYgTvoMgEUFVuzG14E/FCyhUILPhC9/U9C6+ckK41S+m5L1lUzgt1IOdAgHeTvSD4W+Us1QiA+JdtuDQUwjtGO+JQh5wgvO2226ci+NdYWa1zWQmu2nIXALZiw==; s=purelymail1; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=iOeB81nAPS2stZSEbdZRQa6ijU1xCJlAET2xDco/sdE=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id 1884185068; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DA467EAE8A; Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:42:32 +0800 (CST) From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on recent master In-Reply-To: <cda776b7-c8f9-468b-88f2-b070a5752741@HIDDEN> (martin rudalics via's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:19:34 +0100") References: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> <19d45259-a936-4783-b9b8-d3b97fd3d339@HIDDEN> <871pw056eo.fsf@HIDDEN> <189b7ade-865e-4aab-8a2d-fee25ab856f7@HIDDEN> <874j0tmkkq.fsf@HIDDEN> <df12480c-9619-4eed-a487-fdc2cbe0c017@HIDDEN> <874j0sixki.fsf@HIDDEN> <9d1dc4c7-e70d-477b-833c-c3a6827735df@HIDDEN> <87pljefrj9.fsf@HIDDEN> <cda776b7-c8f9-468b-88f2-b070a5752741@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:42:32 +0800 Message-ID: <87ldu2feyf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, shipmints@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, On Wed 19 Feb 2025 at 10:19am +01, martin rudalics via "Bug reports for GNU= Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: >> Actually, your patch is even better than that. >> The following works as expected, now: > [...] >> The reason that this is better for me is that my spw/scale-default is >> just a dummy reproducer. My actual window-size-change-functions entry >> is more complicated, and long predates spw/sway-completing-read. >> I've included it at the bottom of this message > > Note one caveat from the Elisp manual: > > =E2=80=A2 Window change functions should not create or delete windows = or > change the buffer, size or selection status of any window because > there is no guarantee that the information about such a change will > be propagated to other window change functions. If at all, any > such change should be executed only by the last function listed by > the default value of =E2=80=98window-state-change-hook=E2=80=99. Hmm, does changing the height of a face always count as changing the size? >> It would be okay if I just had to call my window-size-change-functions >> entry from spw/sway-completing-read. I am not myself in a position to >> judge whether having a `force' entry makes sense. If you think it does, >> then that's fine. > > So IIUC installing the 'force' entry fixes your bug. Right? Yes. --=20 Sean Whitton
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Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on
recent master
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Hello,
On Tue 18 Feb 2025 at 11:08am +01, martin rudalics wrote:
> OTOH, one reason for implementing 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' was
> to make using Emacs with tiling WMs simpler. Hence instead of all the
> tribulations with running spw/scale-default from
> 'window-size-change-functions' we should be able to find a better
> solution.
>
> With the patch attached would
>
> (defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
> (let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize 'force)
> (frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
> (minibuffer . only)
> (display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
>
> (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120)
>
> (unwind-protect
> (with-selected-frame frame
> (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
> (delete-frame frame))))
>
> do what you want?
Actually, your patch is even better than that.
The following works as expected, now:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun spw/scale-default (frame)
(set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
(add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
(defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
(let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize 'force)
(frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
(minibuffer . only)
(display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
(with-selected-frame frame
(apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The reason that this is better for me is that my spw/scale-default is
just a dummy reproducer. My actual window-size-change-functions entry
is more complicated, and long predates spw/sway-completing-read.
I've included it at the bottom of this message
My point is: I am not trying to use window-size-change-functions to work
around anything. It's just that this value for
window-size-change-functions I alrady have stopped working properly in
the case of spw/sway-completing-read, recently.
It would be okay if I just had to call my window-size-change-functions
entry from spw/sway-completing-read. I am not myself in a position to
judge whether having a `force' entry makes sense. If you think it does,
then that's fine.
>> I'm not sure what you mean "while the function with the same name
>> returned false" -- there isn't a function called
>> frame_inhibit_implied_resize, I think?
>
> Right. I meant the function frame_inhibit_resize.
Ah. Do you still want me to do any testing with that?
=*=*=*=
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(custom-theme-set-faces
'user
'(default ((t (:weight medium :height 105 :foundry "SRC" :family "Hack"))))
'(variable-pitch ((t (:weight regular :height 120
:foundry "bitstream" :family "Bitstream Charter")))))
(defun spw/maybe-scale-basic-faces (frame)
"Entry for `window-size-change-functions' to increase font sizes,
relative to those set by the call to `custom-theme-set-faces' above, for
frames on wide monitors, except where doing so would itself prevent fitting
two 80-column windows side-by-side in the frame."
(when (display-graphic-p frame)
(let ((wide-monitor-p (> (cadddr (assoc 'geometry
(frame-monitor-attributes frame)))
1635)))
(when (or wide-monitor-p
;; Check whether a previous call made any changes we might
;; need to undo if FRAME has moved to a smaller display.
(not (eq scroll-bar-mode
(frame-parameter frame 'vertical-scroll-bars)))
(= (face-attribute 'default :height frame) 120)
(= (face-attribute 'variable-pitch :height frame) 151))
(let* ;; Above 1635 you can scale up and still fit two 80-col windows.
;; Below 1315 you can't fit the two windows even w/o scaling up.
((medium-p (> 1635 (frame-pixel-width frame) 1315))
(scale-up-p (and wide-monitor-p (not medium-p))))
(modify-frame-parameters
frame
`(;; Can fit two 80-col windows only if we disable scroll bars.
(vertical-scroll-bars . ,(and (not (and wide-monitor-p medium-p))
scroll-bar-mode))))
;; Check Emacs found the relevant font on this window system, else
;; our height values might be invalid.
(when (find-font (font-spec :foundry "SRC" :family "Hack") frame)
(set-face-attribute 'default frame
:height (if scale-up-p 120 105)))
(when (find-font (font-spec :foundry "bitstream"
:family "Bitstream Charter")
frame)
(set-face-attribute 'variable-pitch frame
:height (if scale-up-p 151 120))))))))
(add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/maybe-scale-basic-faces)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
--
Sean Whitton
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> It does fix the resizing problem. However, now my entry in
> window-size-change-functions doesn't run at all, and so the font size in
> the new frame is wrong.
>
> I'm not sure whether this is a bug, but it might count as a change that
> should be called out in NEWS? window-size-change-functions is no longer
> guaranteed to be called when frames are simply created.
The reason why I have to delay applying 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize'
in "normal" use is that people want the number of lines and columns
shown by the window manager when they drag frame borders with the mouse
match exactly the values specified in 'initial-frame-alist'. OTOH, one
reason for implementing 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize' was to make using
Emacs with tiling WMs simpler. Hence instead of all the tribulations
with running spw/scale-default from 'window-size-change-functions' we
should be able to find a better solution.
With the patch attached would
(defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
(let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize 'force)
(frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
(minibuffer . only)
(display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
(set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120)
(unwind-protect
(with-selected-frame frame
(set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
(apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
(delete-frame frame))))
do what you want?
> I'm not sure what you mean "while the function with the same name
> returned false" -- there isn't a function called
> frame_inhibit_implied_resize, I think?
Right. I meant the function frame_inhibit_resize.
martin
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To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on
recent master
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Hello,
On Sat 15 Feb 2025 at 11:34am +01, martin rudalics wrote:
> So the sequence of events is apparently
>
> - You are in an initial phase where 'frame-inhibit-implied-resize'
> non-nil has no effect because the tool bar was not yet resized.
>
> - You trigger a frame size change via 'set-face-attribute' which
> apparently "gets through", that is, resizes the frame which is
> something that should not happen.
>
> - When the tool bar gets finally resized it's too late. The last
> change can be no more undone.
This frame has no toolbar, because it's a (minibuffer . only) frame.
Did you notice that? I don't know whether it's significant.
> Are you sure you did something like
>
> if (!FRAME_LIVE_P (f)
> || !f->can_set_window_size
> || !f->after_make_frame
> || !f->tool_bar_resized
> || FRAME_TOOLTIP_P (f)
> || !(frame_window_change
> || frame_selected_change
> || frame_selected_window_change
> || frame_window_state_change))
> /* Either we are not allowed to run hooks for this frame or no
> window change has been reported for it since the last time
> we ran window change functions on it. */
> continue;
>
> If that hook is still run, we'd have to find out why.
Oops. I patched run_window_configuration_change_hook, not
run_window_change_functions. Sorry about that! So, let me go back to
the debugging instructions in your previous e-mail.
First I tried the unpatched code and printed the three variables. My
breakpoint was hit eight times and in each case, f->can_set_window_size
and f->after_make_frame were true, and f->tool_bar_resized was false.
Then I patched in the check for f->tool_bar_resized. This makes the
problem not reproducible.
> I am also stupefied by the fact that the
>
>> (with-selected-frame frame
>> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))))
>
> is apparently needed. WOW a pure 'make-frame' together with the hook on
> 'window-size-change-functions' is _not_ sufficient. Right?
Yes, I just reconfirmed this.
> Is the
>
> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))))
>
> needed literally or would just selecting the frame suffice? Or does
> =E2=80=98completing-read=E2=80=99 trigger the window size change that put=
s the bad
> sequence in motion?
I just tested this. I replaced
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(with-selected-frame frame
(apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
with
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(select-frame frame)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
and then, indeed, the problem is not reproducible. So just selecting
the frame does *not* suffice.
> One other thing: Would enlarging the scope via
>
> (defun spw/scale-default (frame)
> (let ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize t))
> (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120)))
>
> change anything?
I just tested this. No, it doesn't help. The problem is still
reproducible.
> When worse comes to worst, we can always make the offending commit
> optional but I'd rather like to find out what happens first.
Thanks again for your help.
--=20
Sean Whitton
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Hello,
On Fri 14 Feb 2025 at 11:25am +01, martin rudalics wrote:
> Two (maybe silly) questions:
>
> (1) Is the
>
>> (defun spw/scale-default (frame)
>> (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
>> (add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
>
> needed to reproduce the problem and how or why?
Yes, it's needed. I obtained it by bisecting my init.el to find a
minimal reproducer, so I don't know exactly why it's needed. But I
think it's because changing the face size triggers the kind of implied
resize that frame-inhibit-implied-resize is meant to prevent.
> If so, then please tell us (via GDB) when and how these bypass the
>
> || !f->can_set_window_size
> || !f->after_make_frame
>
> check in run_window_change_functions in window.c.
My breakpoint was hit three times. In each case, both
f->can_set_window_size and f->after_make_frame were true.
The backtrace in all three cases is the same, in that the code is called
via redisplay.
> If they do bypass it, could you insert an additional
>
> || !f->tool_bar_resized
>
> there and tell us what happens then?
Each of the three times my breakpoint is hit, f->tool_bar_resized is
false.
I have also observed something else from this debugging. Switching
focus between GUD (in my main Emacs session) and the incorrectly sized
frame can cause the incorrectly sized frame to jump back to the correct
size. When that occurs, my breakpoint is not hit.
> (2) Is the
>
>> (unwind-protect
>> (with-selected-frame frame
>> (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
>> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
>> (delete-frame frame))))
>
> needed to reproduce the problem and how or why?
It's needed in some form, yes, but you prompted me to investigate
further and this is my new minimal reproducer:
sway-completing-read.el:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun spw/scale-default (frame)
(set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
(add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
(defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
(let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize t)
(frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
(minibuffer . only)
(display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
(with-selected-frame frame
(apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
So, the call to set-window-scroll-bars is not essential, but putting
some text in the frame would seem to be essential.
Many thanks for looking!
--
Sean Whitton
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> By means of Git bisection I have discovered that commit dbf22fd0d05 to
> fix bug#74750 has broken frame-inhibit-implied-resize.
> Here is a reproducer:
>
> 1. Configure the Sway compositor to move and resize new windows that
> open if they have the title "Emacs Sway input":
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> for_window [title="^Emacs Sway input$"] \
> floating enable, sticky enable, \
> resize set width 90 ppt, resize set height 90 px, \
> border pixel 2, move position 5 ppt 10 px
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> 2. Create sway-completing-read.el:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun spw/scale-default (frame)
> (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
> (add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
>
> (defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
> (let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize t)
> (frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
> (minibuffer . only)
> (display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
> (unwind-protect
> (with-selected-frame frame
> (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
> (delete-frame frame))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> 3. src/emacs -Q -l sway-completing-read.el --fg-daemon=test
>
> 4. lib-src/emacsclient -stest -e '(spw/sway-completing-read "Choose: " (list "one" "two" "three"))'
>
> Result before dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of size 90%x90px appears.
> Result after dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of a different size appears.
>
> I think what happens is that Sway moves and resizes the new frame, but
> then Emacs immediately wants to resize it after scaling the font size.
> Binding frame-inhibit-implied-resize used to prevent that, but it's now
> broken.
Two (maybe silly) questions:
(1) Is the
> (defun spw/scale-default (frame)
> (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
> (add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
needed to reproduce the problem and how or why? If so, then please tell
us (via GDB) when and how these bypass the
|| !f->can_set_window_size
|| !f->after_make_frame
check in run_window_change_functions in window.c. If they do bypass it,
could you insert an additional
|| !f->tool_bar_resized
there and tell us what happens then?
(2) Is the
> (unwind-protect
> (with-selected-frame frame
> (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
> (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
> (delete-frame frame))))
needed to reproduce the problem and how or why?
Thanks, martin
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#76275; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 76275) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2025 08:24:31 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 14 03:24:31 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tiqzv-0005p2-5O for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2025 03:24:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tiqzr-0005oj-Uo for 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2025 03:24:28 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1tiqzl-0003Zk-Kx; Fri, 14 Feb 2025 03:24:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UgEDrvps5/t/8BfTdGyyHyhthyVcBhj3Rx5MvV28L7s=; b=QZh0HvjtRYed ZP95ptsFcJ6fNpAG5/zSMgtpcM2sfOraJuNTONCmt/Dd5KCBwmWaAYuQlnmTVAmZmLPDUiBaWHibe nyjLFVw11P11Ldk7gEgxOmxW+H18iasat1lCMWvK2PBhyBpIUYsL/Gt5JS0+KJm7L4mm9Beg73ikr NRW3exoNW3zJmul7GFUeYmcgqt/Q/WtyBk8jmYudSpMu785SYTsXvIpa3c9TAtgMVIS2ZiGCmLCc1 JNuMTR/d0PUKNNN1jSb/2Oca0Goz78RjEca4Yb+45NVUxiI20S2jWc6PzsxeTMhO8wukaGyhp9n8Z H4XsOKjyOIQk7nomHNGmng==; Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:24:17 +0200 Message-Id: <865xldgci6.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Sean Whitton on Fri, 14 Feb 2025 11:28:10 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#76275: 31.0.50; frame-inhibit-implied-resize broken on recent master References: <87tt8x5ho5.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76275 Cc: 76275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@HIDDEN, shipmints@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: rudalics@HIDDEN, shipmints@HIDDEN > From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 11:28:10 +0800 > > By means of Git bisection I have discovered that commit dbf22fd0d05 to > fix bug#74750 has broken frame-inhibit-implied-resize. > Here is a reproducer: > > 1. Configure the Sway compositor to move and resize new windows that > open if they have the title "Emacs Sway input": > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > for_window [title="^Emacs Sway input$"] \ > floating enable, sticky enable, \ > resize set width 90 ppt, resize set height 90 px, \ > border pixel 2, move position 5 ppt 10 px > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > 2. Create sway-completing-read.el: > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (defun spw/scale-default (frame) > (set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120)) > (add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default) > > (defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args) > (let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize t) > (frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input") > (minibuffer . only) > (display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY")))))) > (unwind-protect > (with-selected-frame frame > (set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t) > (apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args)) > (delete-frame frame)))) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > 3. src/emacs -Q -l sway-completing-read.el --fg-daemon=test > > 4. lib-src/emacsclient -stest -e '(spw/sway-completing-read "Choose: " (list "one" "two" "three"))' > > Result before dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of size 90%x90px appears. > Result after dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of a different size appears. > > I think what happens is that Sway moves and resizes the new frame, but > then Emacs immediately wants to resize it after scaling the font size. > Binding frame-inhibit-implied-resize used to prevent that, but it's now > broken. Isn't there a race condition here between the resize done by Sway and by Emacs? If so, I think the previous result was just due to sheer luck, as it was exploiting undefined behavior. Apologies if this makes no sense, but I always wonder why people expect something deterministic to happen when there are so many moving parts (in this case: client-to-server communications, the window-system management of frames, and the precise timing with which Emacs calls window-size-change-functions).
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Hello,
By means of Git bisection I have discovered that commit dbf22fd0d05 to
fix bug#74750 has broken frame-inhibit-implied-resize.
Here is a reproducer:
1. Configure the Sway compositor to move and resize new windows that
open if they have the title "Emacs Sway input":
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
for_window [title="^Emacs Sway input$"] \
floating enable, sticky enable, \
resize set width 90 ppt, resize set height 90 px, \
border pixel 2, move position 5 ppt 10 px
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
2. Create sway-completing-read.el:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun spw/scale-default (frame)
(set-face-attribute 'default frame :height 120))
(add-to-list 'window-size-change-functions #'spw/scale-default)
(defun spw/sway-completing-read (prompt collection &rest optional-args)
(let* ((frame-inhibit-implied-resize t)
(frame (make-frame `((title . "Emacs Sway input")
(minibuffer . only)
(display . ,(getenv "WAYLAND_DISPLAY"))))))
(unwind-protect
(with-selected-frame frame
(set-window-scroll-bars (minibuffer-window frame) 0 nil 0 nil t)
(apply #'completing-read prompt collection optional-args))
(delete-frame frame))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
3. src/emacs -Q -l sway-completing-read.el --fg-daemon=test
4. lib-src/emacsclient -stest -e '(spw/sway-completing-read "Choose: " (list "one" "two" "three"))'
Result before dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of size 90%x90px appears.
Result after dbf22fd0d05: New graphical frame of a different size appears.
I think what happens is that Sway moves and resizes the new frame, but
then Emacs immediately wants to resize it after scaling the font size.
Binding frame-inhibit-implied-resize used to prevent that, but it's now
broken.
Thanks.
--
Sean Whitton
Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN>:rudalics@HIDDEN, shipmints@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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