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date: forgot the full day of the month name

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Package: coreutils; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>; dated Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:22:02 UTC; Maintainer for coreutils is bug-coreutils@HIDDEN.

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On 2025-02-16 00:09, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> PE> Sorry, I don't understand the bug report. Are you asking for a new
> PE> feature, or are you saying that currently GNU 'date' outputs incorrect
> PE> strings for %A and/or %B? If the former, what new feature exactly? And
> 
> Yes the former.

OK, marking this as a wishlist item then.

We have similar problems in English too. There's no date format that 
outputs "Sunday, the 16th of February", or "II.16" or a bunch of other 
English-language dates. I imagine there are similar problems in nearly 
every language that "date" claims to support.




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All I know is in Chinese the months and days are like
一月一日 (1/1)
二月二日 (2/2)
and date(1) will allow me to print
一月 but not 一日
二月 but not 二日
probably because date allows two versions for months
1 or January
2 or February
but not days, because in English none is needed.
But that's not the case for Chinese.

>>>>> "PE" == Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> writes:
PE> Sorry, I don't understand the bug report. Are you asking for a new
PE> feature, or are you saying that currently GNU 'date' outputs incorrect
PE> strings for %A and/or %B? If the former, what new feature exactly? And

Yes the former.
But you need a linguistics expert to confirm what I'm saying.

PE> if the latter, what is the correct output?





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> $ man date|grep "locale's full"
>        %A     locale's full weekday name (e.g., Sunday)
>        %B     locale's full month name (e.g., January)
> $ LC_ALL=3Dzh_TW.UTF-8 date +%A%B
> =E9=80=B1=E6=97=A5=E4=BA=8C=E6=9C=88
> OK that's great. But you forgot
>               locale's full day of the month name
> E.g., I'll add it on the back for 2/2
> =E9=80=B1=E6=97=A5=E4=BA=8C=E6=9C=88=E4=BA=8C=E6=97=A5
> The reason is due to English only having one form: 2, but other
> languages might have two.

Sorry, I don't understand the bug report. Are you asking for a new=20
feature, or are you saying that currently GNU 'date' outputs incorrect=20
strings for %A and/or %B? If the former, what new feature exactly? And=20
if the latter, what is the correct output?




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$ man date|grep "locale's full"
       %A     locale's full weekday name (e.g., Sunday)
       %B     locale's full month name (e.g., January)
$ LC_ALL=zh_TW.UTF-8 date +%A%B
週日二月
OK that's great. But you forgot
              locale's full day of the month name
E.g., I'll add it on the back for 2/2
週日二月二日
The reason is due to English only having one form: 2, but other
languages might have two.




Acknowledgement sent to Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-coreutils@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:
bug#76316; Package coreutils. Full text available.
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