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Hi,

After I updated today I noticed that the system was not shutting down 
properly. The reason was that stopping of user-processes causes shepherd 
to respawn thermald.

The following is happening on tty12 (and is annoyingly not logged to 
/var/log/messages):

[...]
Stopping user processes
Sending all processes the TERM Signal
thermald : Terminating on user request
Respawning thermald
Service service thermald
Service thermald running with value ...
Service thermald has been started
[...]

Waiting for process termination (processes left (1 THERMALD-PID)
Waiting for process termination (processes left (1 THERMALD-PID)
Waiting for process termination (processes left (1 THERMALD-PID)
[...]

The issue is that thermald (and possibly other services) don't depend on 
user-processes service. Don't know why I had no problems until now.

Have a nice day,
Dariqq

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Hi,

Dariqq <dariqq@HIDDEN> skribis:

> The issue is that thermald (and possibly other services) don't depend
> on user-processes service. Don't know why I had no problems until now.

This should be fixed: they should all depend on =E2=80=98user-processes=E2=
=80=99.

Probably the bug you=E2=80=99re seeing here was revealed by
<https://issues.guix.gnu.org/75829>.

But perhaps shepherd should also just disable all services when shutting
down so that respawning doesn=E2=80=99t happen.

Ludo=E2=80=99.

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Hi Ludo,

On 16.02.25 18:23, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Dariqq <dariqq@HIDDEN> skribis:
> 
>> The issue is that thermald (and possibly other services) don't depend
>> on user-processes service. Don't know why I had no problems until now.
> 
> This should be fixed: they should all depend on ‘user-processes’.
> 
For the record I will not be verifying every daemon service manually in 
the guix codebase whether it correctly depends on user-processes. Many 
do directly however also a lot only do transitively. The problematic 
cases most likely are where a service sets no requirement field at all

The two services that I know of are thermald and virtlogd.

Also the purpose of the user-processes service (and maybe also the 
filesystems) service as synchronization targets are documented only in 
their definition and implicitly with the shepherd graph image. 
System-shepherd services that dont depend on anything are probably a bad 
idea and seems like a very common mistake for (new) users implementing 
their own services.
Maybe this should be a a more explicit note in the documentation for 
shepherd-service-requirement and/or a small paragraph in the shepherd 
services intro?


> Probably the bug you’re seeing here was revealed by
> <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/75829>.
> 

Is there a reason for user-processes to block on waiting for every 
process execpt PID1 to exit or why during the (sleep 1) calls other 
services (that falsely dont depend on user-processes) are not being 
stopped in the meantime which would help resolve the deadlock?

This causes every daemon indirectly to depend on user-processes but 
shepherd may not know about it.

> But perhaps shepherd should also just disable all services when shutting
> down so that respawning doesn’t happen.

I guess shepherd is just doing its duty as a service manager. Something 
else send SIGTERM/SIGKILL and shepherd kindly respawns it as instructed.
But insisting on restarting a service seems a bit pointless to me during 
shutdown/reboot where everything will be terminated anyway.

> 
> Ludo’.

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Hi,

I believe Rspamd should likewise depend on 'user-processes'.  Thanks!

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Hello,
I also have the same exact issue. Here's the shutdown log:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost elogind[426]: System is powering down.
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost elogind[426]: Removed session c2.
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992050.8059] device (wlp3s0): state change: activated ->
deactivating (reason 'connection-removed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992050.8069] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_LOCAL
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost dbus-daemon[415]: [system] Activating service
name=3D'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' requested by ':1.10' (uid=3D0
pid=3D503 comm=3D"/gnu/store/zav4w5jrcn4yhcawg9l0smv7g2hmyais-networ")
(using servicehelper)
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost dbus-daemon[415]: [system] Successfully
activated service 'org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher'
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost vmunix: [40112.799390] wlp3s0:
deauthenticating from 54:37:bb:d2:dd:3d by local choice (Reason:
3=3DDEAUTH_LEAVING)
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service root...=20
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Exiting shepherd...=20
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service swap-swap...=20
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Service swap-swap stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Service swap-swap is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:30 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service lightdm...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: wlp3s0: CTRL-EVENT-
DISCONNECTED bssid=3D54:37:bb:d2:dd:3d reason=3D3 locally_generated=3D1
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: wlp3s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-
POLICY clear_all
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2420] device (wlp3s0): state change: deactivating ->
disconnected (reason 'connection-removed', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2428] dhcp4 (wlp3s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2428] dhcp4 (wlp3s0): activation: beginning transaction
(timeout in 45 seconds)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2429] dhcp4 (wlp3s0): state changed no lease
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2435] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): canceled DHCP transaction
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2435] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): activation: beginning transaction
(timeout in 45 seconds)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2436] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): state changed no lease
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2809] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: set MAC address to
5E:3F:03:00:57:16 (scanning)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.2908] dns-mgr: Removing DNS information from
/gnu/store/139drha7awx79jb2js4m88p2jsl7zasc-openresolv-
3.13.2/sbin/resolvconf
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost nscd: 1232 monitored file `/etc/resolv.conf`
was written to
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service lightdm stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service lightdm is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service ssh-daemon...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service ssh-daemon stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service ssh-daemon is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service avahi-daemon...
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service avahi-daemon stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service avahi-daemon is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service ntpd...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost ntpd[619]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
(Terminated)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service ntpd stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service ntpd is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service dockerd...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service dockerd stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service dockerd is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service
NetworkManager...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: [NetworkManager] Terminated=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <warn>=20
[1739992051.4008] dns-mgr: could not commit DNS changes:
/gnu/store/139drha7awx79jb2js4m88p2jsl7zasc-openresolv-
3.13.2/sbin/resolvconf returned error code
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5026] caught SIGTERM, shutting down normally.
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5029] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state:
completed -> disconnected
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5029] device (p2p-dev-wlp3s0): supplicant management
interface state: completed -> disconnected
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5032] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state:
disconnected -> interface_disabled
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5033] device (p2p-dev-wlp3s0): supplicant management
interface state: disconnected -> interface_disabled
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5034] device (wlp3s0): supplicant interface state:
interface_disabled -> disconnected
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5035] device (p2p-dev-wlp3s0): supplicant management
interface state: interface_disabled -> disconnected
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5179] device (wlp3s0): state change: disconnected ->
unmanaged (reason 'unmanaged', sys-iface-state: 'managed')
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5719] device (wlp3s0): set-hw-addr: reset MAC address to
98:3B:8F:30:37:7A (unmanage)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.5879] device (p2p-dev-wlp3s0): state change: disconnected -
> unmanaged (reason 'removed', sys-iface-state: 'removed')
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: p2p-dev-wlp3s0: CTRL-
EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: p2p-dev-wlp3s0: CTRL-
EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: nl80211: deinit
ifname=3Dp2p-dev-wlp3s0 disabled_11b_rates=3D0
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost NetworkManager[503]: <info>=20
[1739992051.6236] exiting (success)
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service NetworkManager stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service NetworkManager is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service wpa-
supplicant...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: wlp3s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-
POLICY clear_all
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: wlp3s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-
POLICY clear_all
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost wpa_supplicant[437]: nl80211: deinit
ifname=3Dwlp3s0 disabled_11b_rates=3D0
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service wpa-supplicant stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service wpa-supplicant is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service bluetooth...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost bluetoothd[428]: Terminating
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost bluetoothd[428]: Stopping SDP server
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost bluetoothd[428]: Exit
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service bluetooth stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service bluetooth is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service upower-
daemon...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service upower-daemon stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service upower-daemon is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service pam...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service pam stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service pam is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service elogind...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost elogind[426]: Received signal 15 [TERM]
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service elogind stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service elogind is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service libvirtd...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service libvirtd stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Service libvirtd is now stopped.
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service dbus-system...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost ModemManager[531]: <msg> caught signal,
shutting down...=20
Feb 20 00:37:31 localhost nm-dispatcher: Caught signal 15, shutting
down...
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service dbus-system stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service dbus-system is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost ModemManager[531]: <msg> ModemManager is shut
down=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service term-console...
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service term-console stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service term-console is now
stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Stopping service nscd...=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service nscd stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost shepherd[1]: Service nscd is now stopped.=20
Feb 20 00:37:32 localhost syslogd: exiting on signal 15
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

Regards,
Ashvith

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It's at least a partial fix.

Change-Id: Ifca81e4311f5145a3bb36f1ea338554079e121e2
---
 gnu/services/mail.scm | 2 +-
 gnu/services/pm.scm   | 1 +
 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/gnu/services/mail.scm b/gnu/services/mail.scm
index 18b482272c..210a226ccf 100644
--- a/gnu/services/mail.scm
+++ b/gnu/services/mail.scm
@@ -2317,7 +2317,7 @@ (define-configuration/no-serialization rspamd-configuration
    (boolean #f)
    "Do not apply Jinja templates.")
   (shepherd-requirements
-   (list-of-symbols '(loopback))
+   (list-of-symbols '(loopback user-processes))
    "This is a list of symbols naming Shepherd services that this service
 will depend on."))
 
diff --git a/gnu/services/pm.scm b/gnu/services/pm.scm
index 1978de55d4..fa18af254b 100644
--- a/gnu/services/pm.scm
+++ b/gnu/services/pm.scm
@@ -512,6 +512,7 @@ (define (thermald-shepherd-service config)
    (shepherd-service
     (provision '(thermald))
     (documentation "Run thermald cpu frequency scaling.")
+    (requirement '(user-processes))
     (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor
               '(#$(file-append (thermald-thermald config) "/sbin/thermald")
                 "--no-daemon"

base-commit: 40e83f8f72fc831c94dc6d42664be50db755344b
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