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[87.196.75.87]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-abbab9e9863sm819202566b.64.2025.02.21.01.49.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 21 Feb 2025 01:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= <joaotavora@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76423: Major-mode provided LSP server for Eglot In-Reply-To: <jwv5xl4yp6b.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <jwvcyfd7jzw.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r03sfkun.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvcyfcpbx5.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <CALDnm53OczvuPVDW0A9k8YfLBmFZwMd707mrCaLLoLJXKf+f7g@HIDDEN> <jwv5xl4yp6b.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 09:49:32 +0000 Message-ID: <87ikp3fx03.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76423 Cc: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN>, 76423 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >> As it stands, looking at the `eval-after-load' code for bicep-ts-mode, >> I wonder if it is really a "funny dance" or just the way it should be >> until past decisions are revisited (but not by me :-)) > > Having to play such games just to update some kind of central DB of all > the modes seems really silly when the DB is only ever consulted for the > major mode of current buffer. Let see: - Is it so? Something is only really "silly" if it serves no purpose beyond its exhuberance or idiosyncrasy. If you were to take away the "silly" centralized e-s-programs db now -- like someone recently naively suggested -- you would break eglot.el as loaded in older Emacsen, and that would upset a fair number of people. Of course, you could move it into compat.el (no longer in use by Eglot) and maintain it there. You would only be increasing the level of silliness. - Everything in Emacs happens in a buffer and in a major mode, and the only useful hookage we get to set things up before minor modes kick in is tied to those, so any db -- centralized or not -- is going to be consulted within those boundaries. - LSP stands for Language Server Protocol, and its mapped to the concept of "language". As is much other tooling outside the Emacs ecosystem (frequently utterly uninterested in what a "major mode" is). Snippets, syntax highlighters, linters etc. The fact that there is no easy way to "run this bit of code if the current buffer is in this language" is IMO a very glaring omission in an editor which is frequently used for source code. - Your patch would probably work for biceps-ts-mode and whatever "Biceps" is but when dealing with major modes that must cooperate with each other (c-mode and c-ts-mode ... json-mode and json-js-mode, tuareg-mode and ocaml-mode, many others) etc, it would lead to repetition and duplication: a newcomer mode would always need to beg the maintainers of other major modes to reference it. Dead modes would linger around scattered. Duplication, at least in my book, always tips the pendulum of silliness towards it. So, again, until past decisions are revisited (that bug#somesuch of 1/2 years ago) and there exists a way for a major mode to say "I serve this language and I want to suggest a language server for it so that other modes that also serve it can use it" I think the current state of affairs is the best we have. What real problem is there in the current biceps-ts-mode.el code? Doesn't it work? There is no duplication. It's a DRY and idempotent statement. It is a dislike of eval-after-load? In that case, if loading order is the problem, maybe `add-hook` semantics (which solves the same problem by other means) could be leveraged. But unless a real problem (and a real solution) can be presented just calling out the formal exhuberance of a solution is no real argument for change. Jo=C3=A3o
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("dotnet" > >> ,(bicep-langserver-path)))) > > > > You mean eglot-server-program, singular (that's what your patch propose= s) > > Oops, yes. > > > Anyway, your patch is more or less what I had in mind altough: > > > > * The name should probably be something less confusable with > > e-s-programs, like eglot-suggested-servers or eglot-preferred-servers > > (note that it can still be "servers!" unless we purposedly cap that > > ability, which we maybe should). > > I have no opinion on the name. > > > * It's a bit silly to repeat the major-mode symbol in it. So the > > setting in the major-mode function should be something like > > > > (setq eglot-suggested-servers '("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path))) > > That's what I started with but then I saw that `eglot--lookup-mode` > returns info that includes part of the `car` of the elements in > `eglot-server-programs` (IIUC it's so as to know which other buffers and > major modes could share the same server), so rather than try and learn > how that part of Eglot really works, I went for a simpler change. Right, I see. But to do these kinds of changes to Eglot, "how Eglot really works" is a prerequisite :-) And you have understood it, in essence. The thing is, we're going to bump into that old "mapping the language" can of worms eventually. Language servers are for languages, so as it stands what major modes may want to say is "I want to participate in managing this language". But even that is fairly awkward. To do this right, we'd really need a language hook. And I have 0 time to open that can of worms. As it stands, looking at the `eval-after-load' code for bicep-ts-mode, I wonder if it is really a "funny dance" or just the way it should be until past decisions are revisited (but not by me :-)) Jo=C3=A3o
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So maybe it is enough to add some simple >> examples to the documentation. Who wrote this? I agree :-) >> Or we could have two variables defining server-programs: >> eglot-user-server-programs and eglot-server-programs (alternatively >> eglot-server-programs and eglot-default-server-programs. Where the >> former is only set by the users and it takes precedence over the latter >> if there is a match in it. But it is possible that I'm once again >> overthinking this. No. > I would prefer that solution over users having to understand and/or > copy-paste lambdas, eval-after-loads and setq-locals. Please see my reply to Stefan.
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[87.196.76.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5dece286861sm12345498a12.67.2025.02.20.11.59.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:59:31 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= <joaotavora@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76423: Major-mode provided LSP server for Eglot In-Reply-To: <jwvcyfd7jzw.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <jwvcyfd7jzw.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 19:59:44 +0000 Message-ID: <87r03sfkun.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76423 Cc: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN>, 76423 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Stefan, > The patch below would let this major modes do it with a simple: > > (setq-local eglot-server-programs > `(bicep-ts-mode . ("dotnet" > ,(bicep-langserver-path)))) You mean eglot-server-program, singular (that's what your patch proposes) Anyway, your patch is more or less what I had in mind altough: * The name should probably be something less confusable with e-s-programs, like eglot-suggested-servers or eglot-preferred-servers (note that it can still be "servers!" unless we purposedly cap that ability, which we maybe should). * It's a bit silly to repeat the major-mode symbol in it. So the setting in the major-mode function should be something like (setq eglot-suggested-servers '("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path))) As to the precedence logic which you all discussed in the following emails, I think it is indeed a problem. But I don't see a problem in prioritizing eglot-suggested-servers. * The user can always nullify it with a (add-hook 'foo-mode-hook (lambda () (setq eglot-suggested-server nil))) I don't see this as a hindrance and I don't want to add much extra logic to Eglot to manage this for users afraid of add-hook. The Eglot manual already uses these add-hook snippets and as long as people know to copy-paste. If people want to the use-package macro magic to keep themselves ignorant of how Emacs works, I think that's a mistake, but this shouldn't stop them. * Nevertheless it should be possible to add some logic to eglot.el to discover if the e-s-programs variable has been modified. * It's important to note that this effort by itself won't bring many advantages until major-modes can somehow know during their normal working that eglot-suggested-servers hasn't been touched and that a particularly friendly server has effectively been started (either by M-x eglot or by the major mode itself, with appropriate care). Then, foo-mode will be able to provide specific `M-x foo-thingamabob` commands that make use of an LSP connection, much like python.el or ruby-mode.el provide commands to send a region to the interpreter, etc. * I'm against adding eglot-server-user-programs or somesuch as someone is proposing. I only want to add a new variable to be settable by the major mode. And ideally it should come with examples of major-mode patches with such added functionality for the "friendly server", else what is the point of having the major mode even set it? Jo=C3=A3o PS: something that I didn't mention in my recent reply to a patch about this in the mailing list by Philip Kaludercic (posted to emacs-devel I think) is that none of these efforts shall break eglot.el from being compiled and loaded in older Emacsen (his patch did that).
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So maybe it is enough to add some simple > examples to the documentation. > > Or we could have two variables defining server-programs: > eglot-user-server-programs and eglot-server-programs (alternatively > eglot-server-programs and eglot-default-server-programs. Where the > former is only set by the users and it takes precedence over the latter > if there is a match in it. But it is possible that I'm once again > overthinking this. I would prefer that solution over users having to understand and/or copy-paste lambdas, eval-after-loads and setq-locals.
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charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76423 Cc: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN>, 76423 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= <joaotavora@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Wouldn't the patch make harder for the users to customize Eglot to use >> their preferred LSP server instead of the server suggested by the major >> mode? > > Could be, tho it depends. To me it seems both the current and the proposed approaches are too complex for newbies, but quite straightforward to write with a little bit of elisp knowledge. So maybe it is enough to add some simple examples to the documentation. Or we could have two variables defining server-programs: eglot-user-server-programs and eglot-server-programs (alternatively eglot-server-programs and eglot-default-server-programs. Where the former is only set by the users and it takes precedence over the latter if there is a match in it. But it is possible that I'm once again overthinking this. Felici=E1n
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("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path)))) > > Wouldn't the patch make harder for the users to customize Eglot to use > their preferred LSP server instead of the server suggested by the major > mode? Could be, tho it depends. AFAIK they can't use Customize to do that because packages (like `bicep-ts-mode.el`) modify the variable outside of Customize's control, so currently they have to do something like: (add-to-list 'eglot-server-programs '(bicep-ts-mode . MYSERVER)) which may need to be adjusted to (with-eval-after-load 'eglot (add-to-list 'eglot-server-programs '(bicep-ts-mode . MYSERVER))) or (with-eval-after-load 'bicep-ts-mode (add-to-list 'eglot-server-programs '(bicep-ts-mode . MYSERVER))) With the variable I suggest I guess they'd have to do (add-hook 'bicep-ts-mode-hook (lambda () (setq-local eglot-server-program '(bicep-ts-mode . MYSERVER)))) I know some people find `add-hook` and `lambda` more scary than `eval-after-load` and `add-to-list`, so I guess it would count as "harder", yes. Maybe we should offer an actual `defcustom` variable for user overrides, if we care enough. Personally, I prefer to work on making the `add-hook+lambda` approach more accessible, because it's just very flexible and powerful, so it's much more generally useful. One such effort is to use `use-package` or `setup`. Stefan
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[213.222.160.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-abbac3242dcsm528066366b.107.2025.02.19.13.52.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) From: Felician Nemeth <felician.nemeth@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76423: Major-mode provided LSP server for Eglot References: <jwvcyfd7jzw.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:52:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <jwvcyfd7jzw.fsf@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:33:07 -0500") Message-ID: <87wmdl4n6u.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUMBwgHAgMFAAGPjY7/ //80MDHq6eqJt3pKAAABr0lEQVQ4jX2UzZKDIAzHqR177q7TPbtx2HMr6guQcrbY9txZ0fd/hA0f onXazcEJ/CD8E4Js8/HS9mwjXtqeMRxHXJkakTEm4b4GPVQW8PU8ov4fQCqeThlF60MBWdo1IXzd 2nEEZE7CEAZLwI0N/gJAhTj7ESQAX4gPgO8lyI+cvgViSVPlNomAj2M9gW40eg7VWY3cATjUcyiO Z+i03cFruGLYoUR7VyU3HihdmCEVhoDN65FXkpbSxkomOzsTQN/gySaodGb9Gdi1oSRXP46gdBWh LcUKJNdeGCWac74GKakmne0aHCFvyqJPYLsCFAVlhRTvGdzMdLHqtgRyUulyXIAH7CYQ3AB0Nody JQhAkq/qtOnbjhxdzYDkXPxlH5y4WdUAeUcX1NVJ6GR7UQEYPGWoAnA36OQNn5lRRp38vHTAp9Br LoTmvlPPDoRCKzpjG1SXT89AaT5l456BamJuMcs+NIOMzJ/s5dI6yUVcrARlruwOebfdv6gunTn4 ww3+QjGBEn5suVyLHoSGvAqREuDLN+iqZ+VcFg+HBbsJUU9+FZthbez9T+bdb+kPv2Ls6ct3hTkA AAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76423 Cc: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN>, 76423 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= <joaotavora@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > Eglot should make it easier for major modes to suggest which LSP > server to use. > The patch below would let this major modes do it with a simple: > > (setq-local eglot-server-programs > `(bicep-ts-mode . ("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path)))) Wouldn't the patch make harder for the users to customize Eglot to use their preferred LSP server instead of the server suggested by the major mode? Thanks, Felici=E1n > > - Stefan > > > diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el b/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el > index bd28174e7da..3aff922be1d 100644 > --- a/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el > +++ b/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el > @@ -235,6 +235,10 @@ eglot-alternatives > when probe return (cons probe args) > finally (funcall err))))))) >=20=20 > +(defvar-local eglot-server-program nil > + "Description of the server to use. > +Follows the same syntax as any element of `eglot-server-programs', ") > + > (defvar eglot-server-programs > ;; FIXME: Maybe this info should be distributed into the major modes > ;; themselves where they could set a buffer-local `eglot-server-progra= m' > @@ -354,7 +358,7 @@ eglot-server-programs >=20=20 > * In the most common case, a symbol such as `c-mode'; >=20=20 > -* A list (MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL :LANGUAGE-ID ID) where > +* A list (MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL :language-id ID) where > MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL is the aforementioned symbol and ID is a > string identifying the language to the server; >=20=20 > @@ -1331,7 +1335,9 @@ eglot--lookup-mode > (replace-regexp-in-string > "\\(?:-ts\\)?-mode$" "" > (symbol-name sym)))))) > - for (modes . contact) in eglot-server-programs > + for (modes . contact) in (if (null eglot-server-program) > + eglot-server-programs > + (cons eglot-server-program eglot-server-pr= ograms)) > for llists =3D (mapcar #'eglot--ensure-list > (if (or (symbolp modes) (keywordp (cadr modes))) > (list modes) modes))
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Currently major modes end up doing funny dances like: branch: externals/bicep-ts-mode commit 8192a400fae45cdde32526f96bb7ed5158d98008 Author: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN> Commit: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer@HIDDEN> Wait with altering eglot-server-programs until eglot loaded --- bicep-ts-mode.el | 10 +++++----- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/bicep-ts-mode.el b/bicep-ts-mode.el index 204629b4c6..f047bccae0 100644 --- a/bicep-ts-mode.el +++ b/bicep-ts-mode.el @@ -205,11 +205,11 @@ Return nil if there is no name or if NODE is not a defun node." . bicep-ts-mode)))) ;;;###autoload -(and (boundp 'eglot-server-programs) - (file-exists-p (bicep-langserver-path)) - (progn - (add-to-list 'eglot-server-programs - `(bicep-ts-mode . ("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path)))))) +(eval-after-load 'eglot + '(and (file-exists-p (bicep-langserver-path)) + (progn + (add-to-list 'eglot-server-programs + `(bicep-ts-mode . ("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path))))))) (provide 'bicep-ts-mode) The patch below would let this major modes do it with a simple: (setq-local eglot-server-programs `(bicep-ts-mode . ("dotnet" ,(bicep-langserver-path)))) - Stefan --=-=-= Content-Type: text/patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=eglot-server.patch diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el b/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el index bd28174e7da..3aff922be1d 100644 --- a/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el +++ b/lisp/progmodes/eglot.el @@ -235,6 +235,10 @@ eglot-alternatives when probe return (cons probe args) finally (funcall err))))))) +(defvar-local eglot-server-program nil + "Description of the server to use. +Follows the same syntax as any element of `eglot-server-programs', ") + (defvar eglot-server-programs ;; FIXME: Maybe this info should be distributed into the major modes ;; themselves where they could set a buffer-local `eglot-server-program' @@ -354,7 +358,7 @@ eglot-server-programs * In the most common case, a symbol such as `c-mode'; -* A list (MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL :LANGUAGE-ID ID) where +* A list (MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL :language-id ID) where MAJOR-MODE-SYMBOL is the aforementioned symbol and ID is a string identifying the language to the server; @@ -1331,7 +1335,9 @@ eglot--lookup-mode (replace-regexp-in-string "\\(?:-ts\\)?-mode$" "" (symbol-name sym)))))) - for (modes . contact) in eglot-server-programs + for (modes . contact) in (if (null eglot-server-program) + eglot-server-programs + (cons eglot-server-program eglot-server-programs)) for llists = (mapcar #'eglot--ensure-list (if (or (symbolp modes) (keywordp (cadr modes))) (list modes) modes)) --=-=-=--
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