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With emacs built to use GTK, and running under Wayland...  run:

   $ GDK_SCALE= emacs

The result is a number of hallucinogenic effects ranging from emacs just
showing up as a black square on the screen to window-resizing attempts
setting the frame to random sizes unrelated to mouse movements.

Things work much better without GDK_SCALE= and I can happily take that
out (it was put into my scripts years ago for long-forgotten reasons),
but other users may be tripped up by this too.

This happens even with "emacs -q".


In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.2) of 2025-02-20 built on trenco
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Jonathan Corbet <corbet@HIDDEN> writes:

> With emacs built to use GTK, and running under Wayland...  run:
>
>    $ GDK_SCALE= emacs
>
> The result is a number of hallucinogenic effects ranging from emacs just
> showing up as a black square on the screen to window-resizing attempts
> setting the frame to random sizes unrelated to mouse movements.
>
> Things work much better without GDK_SCALE= and I can happily take that
> out (it was put into my scripts years ago for long-forgotten reasons),
> but other users may be tripped up by this too.
>
> This happens even with "emacs -q".

Are you building the X11 configuration of Emacs with GTK, or the PGTK
configuration?

At all events, please place a breakpoint on xg_get_scale and ascertain
what it returns.  I suspect an oversigt in GDK, as it appears that Emacs
does not access this environment variable directly.

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Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> With emacs built to use GTK, and running under Wayland...  run:
>>
>>    $ GDK_SCALE= emacs
>>
>> The result is a number of hallucinogenic effects ranging from emacs just
>> showing up as a black square on the screen to window-resizing attempts
>> setting the frame to random sizes unrelated to mouse movements.
>>
>> Things work much better without GDK_SCALE= and I can happily take that
>> out (it was put into my scripts years ago for long-forgotten reasons),
>> but other users may be tripped up by this too.
>>
>> This happens even with "emacs -q".
>
> Are you building the X11 configuration of Emacs with GTK, or the PGTK
> configuration?

PGTK.

> At all events, please place a breakpoint on xg_get_scale and ascertain
> what it returns.  I suspect an oversigt in GDK, as it appears that Emacs
> does not access this environment variable directly.

I'll try to get to that in the near future - stay tuned.

Thanks,

jon

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Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> With emacs built to use GTK, and running under Wayland...  run:
>>
>>    $ GDK_SCALE= emacs
>>
>> The result is a number of hallucinogenic effects ranging from emacs just
>> showing up as a black square on the screen to window-resizing attempts
>> setting the frame to random sizes unrelated to mouse movements.
>>
>> Things work much better without GDK_SCALE= and I can happily take that
>> out (it was put into my scripts years ago for long-forgotten reasons),
>> but other users may be tripped up by this too.
>>
>> This happens even with "emacs -q".
>
> Are you building the X11 configuration of Emacs with GTK, or the PGTK
> configuration?
>
> At all events, please place a breakpoint on xg_get_scale and ascertain
> what it returns.  I suspect an oversigt in GDK, as it appears that Emacs
> does not access this environment variable directly.

OK, if I run it normally (without GDK_SCALE=), I get this

First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 32
 from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 2
 from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 2
 from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 2

from here on it's always 2

with GDK_SCALE= :

First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 16
 from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 1
 from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 1
 from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 1

...and always 1 thereafter.

Hope that helps?

Thanks,

jon

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Jonathan Corbet <corbet@HIDDEN> writes:

> OK, if I run it normally (without GDK_SCALE=), I get this
>
> First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 32
>  from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 2
>  from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 2
>  from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 2
>
> from here on it's always 2
>
> with GDK_SCALE= :
>
> First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 16
>  from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 1
>  from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 1
>  from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 1
>
> ...and always 1 thereafter.
>
> Hope that helps?
>
> Thanks,
>
> jon

My recollection is that on Wayland the scale is decided by the
compositor, but apparently GDK continues to report and use the value of
GDK_SCALE in some contexts, if present, which moves the two out of sync.
Or so I suspect.

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Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> writes:

> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> OK, if I run it normally (without GDK_SCALE=), I get this
>>
>> First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 32
>>  from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 2
>>  from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 2
>>  from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 2
>>
>> from here on it's always 2
>>
>> with GDK_SCALE= :
>>
>> First return, called from x_set_scroll_bar_default_width(): 16
>>  from xg_update_frame_menubar(): 1
>>  from xg_wm_set_size_hint(): 1
>>  from xg_frame_set_char_size(): 1
>>
>> ...and always 1 thereafter.
>>
>> Hope that helps?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jon
>
> My recollection is that on Wayland the scale is decided by the
> compositor, but apparently GDK continues to report and use the value of
> GDK_SCALE in some contexts, if present, which moves the two out of sync.
> Or so I suspect.

Something that I think may be related and easier to reproduce... with a
pgtk build:

  $ emacs -q
  <get initial frame, which looks normal>
  C-x 5 b <ret>
  <get *scratch*, probably a tiny frame at most 8 lines high>

It's not 100% reproducible, but happens at least 50% of the time.

FWIW, I also get this in the terminal where I run the editor:

> (emacs:64577): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:06:02.686: gtk_distribute_natural_allocation: assertion 'extra_space >= 0' failed

Thanks,

jon

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