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Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:26:06 +0000 From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:26:06 +0000 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZlWJALFMBewTE_B13pl5p5jcOpaq6GvBv_wrExUASjN7HHWNK-R-HqeOhs Message-ID: <CADwFkmnZNVUVAYQso3NGL=pYevoKdTpU7aVtmPcC6y+zAhMU2w@HIDDEN> Subject: [PATCH] Make cl-proclaim and cl-declaim obsolete To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000055d10062ee9fd89" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::530; envelope-from=stefankangas@HIDDEN; helo=mail-ed1-x530.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: mattias.engdegard@HIDDEN, monnier@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --000000000000055d10062ee9fd89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Severity: wishlist In Bug#63288, we discussed making cl-proclaim and cl-declaim obsolete. There consensus seems to be that this would be good. The main use of cl-proclaim and cl-declaim is to enable some CL-Lib specific optimizations by setting cl--optimize-speed and cl--optimize-safety, and to set some byte-compiler variables. It does seem quite strange to have such fundamental parts implemented in cl-lib.el; if they are generally useful they should be made part of Emacs Lisp proper and integrated as such. If they are not, we should just remove them. In all cases, I think we should avoid maintaining hard-to-understand and complex hacks in CL-Lib. However, simply removing these CL-Lib specific variables makes the compiled file size of eieieo-core.el (our only user of cl-declaim) increase by almost 20%: -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 40705 Feb 24 21:31 eieio-core.elc -rw-r--r-- 1 skangas staff 45572 Feb 24 21:31 lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-core.elc I'm a bit reluctant to make eieio slower, even if only a little, since it's already known for not being fast. So until we have a replacement for cl--optimize-speed and cl--optimize-safety, I guess we'll have to live with them. Meanwhile, marking cl-proclaim and cl-declaim obsolete should at least discourage using cl-lib for performance hacks, and hopefully encourage more work on improving the byte-compiler instead. The attached is the best patch I could come up with for now. 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