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This patch inserts the explicit manual cross-reference. It may be suitable as a documentation patch for the emacs-30 branch, or otherwise for master. Any comments please let me know. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-doc-emacs-trouble.texi-Coding-Standards-Add-manual-r.patch From 39bd138d5d9fa82649300d2eaa0a6ec42cb73626 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 22:25:03 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] ; * doc/emacs/trouble.texi (Coding Standards): Add manual reference --- doc/emacs/trouble.texi | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/emacs/trouble.texi b/doc/emacs/trouble.texi index 2211369b121..dade3e58bf3 100644 --- a/doc/emacs/trouble.texi +++ b/doc/emacs/trouble.texi @@ -1496,7 +1496,7 @@ Coding Standards Contributed code should follow the GNU Coding Standards @url{https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/}. This may also be available -in info on your system. +in info on your system. @pxref{Top,,, standards, GNU Coding Standards} If it doesn't, we'll need to find someone to fix the code before we can use it. -- 2.47.2 --=-=-=--
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Sun, 09 Mar 2025 16:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 9 Mar 2025 16:25:37 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87h641zvkw.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87h641zvkw.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 16:25:37 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1Jq2fXdSn1MsthK6xfI5C14LS-119MELpcIDY48eIcssfhKt3OckL4tTU9s Message-ID: <CADwFkmn5AZ+YBSKW+BLjXctk=s0wFRW5eMZ_xdnMMH6h3qPw7w@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Jeremy Bryant via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > The Emacs manual suggests that the GNU Coding Standards may be available > locally as an Info manual. > This patch inserts the explicit manual cross-reference. > > It may be suitable as a documentation patch for the emacs-30 branch, or > otherwise for master. > > Any comments please let me know. I would guess that the reason why there is no reference is that most GNU/Linux distributions do not distribute this Info manual, or at least they don'tt by default or with commonly installed packages. It's also never available as a printed manual, AFAIK. I have no opinion on adding such a reference now. Eli, WDYT?
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#76901: [PATCH] ; * doc/emacs/trouble.texi (Coding Standards): Add manual reference Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 14:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.76901.B76901.17416186018493 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> Cc: jb@HIDDEN, 76901 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76901-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B76901.17416186018493 (code B ref 76901); Mon, 10 Mar 2025 14:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 76901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2025 14:56:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39192 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1treYb-0002Cu-AX for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:56:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1treYY-0002Cb-F6 for 76901 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:56:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1treYS-0004Z7-O8; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:56:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2UJFWuz2j4hkXo05dAQFTg65YOK7wwdFC55p9HVjCRk=; b=iCU4ngd95ssv VUtMyYx4lMCz364i+qvSrmUQTiSGHWhTXzfWZqyYoqUov01lhAYCZmagoDWahk9PkRCbwydOPdYm+ VLbGz+DOYUYmBB97vLR2zoU1up2oml+7otAXdPl5PBVOw2kOiSSoZna8tl0qTVSVFo6J+Crl25EIO s3wl2r4aW4AS+lDWY17mjKZajE7A3AR8a6Ej6oANptE48Cb17MNeirSKoSLosTQCpgObOM082kS2b ZylIxP40gKKpOmvsPSDcGOgaihgKV3hnmJ5IHU+7AAfgwYJHRJqT2aUOaCS5MwS/rH5T7D7+BvFY/ Dh1G4IeSuLtmTI8qjMihVw==; Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 16:56:30 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmcxdjdt.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmn5AZ+YBSKW+BLjXctk=s0wFRW5eMZ_xdnMMH6h3qPw7w@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 9 Mar 2025 16:25:37 -0700) References: <87h641zvkw.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmn5AZ+YBSKW+BLjXctk=s0wFRW5eMZ_xdnMMH6h3qPw7w@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 16:25:37 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> > > Jeremy Bryant via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > > > The Emacs manual suggests that the GNU Coding Standards may be available > > locally as an Info manual. > > This patch inserts the explicit manual cross-reference. > > > > It may be suitable as a documentation patch for the emacs-30 branch, or > > otherwise for master. > > > > Any comments please let me know. > > I would guess that the reason why there is no reference is that most > GNU/Linux distributions do not distribute this Info manual, or at least > they don'tt by default or with commonly installed packages. > > It's also never available as a printed manual, AFAIK. > > I have no opinion on adding such a reference now. Eli, WDYT? We have there a reference to the manual in HTML, isn't that enough? In any case, having a URL and then a cross-reference to the Info manuals in the next sentence sounds strange to me. At the very least, we should have there text saying that the manual can be either read on-line in HTML format (with the URL), or locally in Info (with a Info reference), to explain why we have both.
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