Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2025 06:24:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 14 02:24:29 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59679 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tsyT7-0000qL-05 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2025 02:24:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsyT3-0000q0-PP for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2025 02:24:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsySw-0006Jj-29; Fri, 14 Mar 2025 02:24:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=D5Fv9YKv3vZvkk5YNzQW0qL6jm0yhYWV4d7wbo5z3W4=; b=CHGrXxNHIGrmDJy/+tRd yzhsfoi16IsWk2WTLwWfXHpQezjgJxT5TnMwmkYXsXoBh82hZPgy9oiVyjLCf3riwB+5QcBUl8pCG 9RH8cV/9BDkzhgMIGX2z4X+betVYy/kFzWatjG8KvBS8uUcELz3q4gHT8bqEBHPqWuHNTBBW6Vg5p pA1EgJOi8iBpB6RqaViAPlmp6uZWlFjq0+nSzTeZoy6JJOwb+7NkmFTKmiPAZBLzDB2nsaPwEDGjx sJ85xufwJX+m8sl9GedzEVTbUUgjTF9DJ6y32QIQlEP6AoGcbCON4hz+aOx0pSQBskTA+KMf9KKqg +BH2yDaglxG0sQ==; From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: Copyright ranges and Copyright holders in README [WAS Re: [bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.] In-Reply-To: <874izwr7u9.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> (Janneke Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:31:10 +0100") Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN> <877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87cyemgiyk.fsf@HIDDEN> <87msdqf3a1.fsf@HIDDEN> <874izwr7u9.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 07:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87tt7wp1tl.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963 Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>, Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes: > I haven't heard back from the fsf (laywers) yet, so I'm tentatively > proposing the attached patch. [..] > if we are to try to cater for legalese we should probably be strict? Ouch, that didn't come out quite the way I intended it. Sorry much too much emotion. I just wanted to say, well, something like this. > Next to the attached patch, there should probably be something about > "add your name to the README" in the Contributing section of the manual. Greetings, Janneke --=20 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade= my.com
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2025 20:31:25 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 13 16:31:25 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tspDA-0003Jf-S5
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 16:31:25 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38674)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tspD8-0003JJ-CQ
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 16:31:23 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tspD1-0002Zt-2f; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 16:31:15 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:
From; bh=MX7pDTe9y8kraU4D/w6NGQtLpdug7BnMY3Ukmh63R3U=; b=H/1xDlBfA8QmN9c+SYTe
w5/+/L9a3cBSqtbH431yanez6aMS7p/tQOYcIHQmYA+u1zgfJ8o7C7NGDwUI66qrQXQ0d8bEm5m1m
/n5dVFTbdbzbkw/tMLtyvQag9VoPP+CWe3RthTKz03zC1qeRS5R+2kJb/4V0KXNsBvZB3Rp+GXMPd
sk+oLm/8vxgCxcTDVHBf+tqeDXqG2uKIDPyBg4Xemui0WbD3bybMfpNURK7B3A9Wc3FlAQYM/Ot7x
eTz7qPvvKWCjlSud12z6vlqj1H397Kzqrhie3QzRiDlYSTL5C5EgLPBMxsAyPl/mBD+cPFadsFvfv
USVRFBoP06kTkA==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
Subject: Copyright ranges and Copyright holders in README [WAS Re:
[bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.]
In-Reply-To: <87msdqf3a1.fsf@HIDDEN> (Janneke Nieuwenhuizen's message of
"Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:38:14 +0100")
Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl
References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
<877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN>
<87cyemgiyk.fsf@HIDDEN> <87msdqf3a1.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:31:10 +0100
Message-ID: <874izwr7u9.fsf_-_@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-="
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>,
Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
Hi,
> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
>
>> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
>>
>> [..]
>>>>> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
>>>>> index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
>>>>> --- a/doc/guix.texi
>>>>> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
>>>>> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 202=
3 Efraim Flashner@*
>>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
>>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
>>>>> -Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 202=
3, 2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>>>> +Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 202=
3, 2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>>>
>>>> Maybe use 2016-2025 :-).
>>>
>>> Hmm. I thought you needed to have a special exception in the README to
>>> be able for that to hold up in court. I've been postponing to look into
>>> this mess (I used to be too heavily into copyright in my LilyPond years=
).
>>> However, it seems today is the day :)
>>>
>>> From <https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.htm=
l>
>>>
>>> You can use a range (=E2=80=982008-2010=E2=80=99) instead of listing in=
dividual years
>>> (=E2=80=982008, 2009, 2010=E2=80=99) if and only if: 1) every year in t=
he range,
>>> inclusive, really is a =E2=80=9Ccopyrightable=E2=80=9D year that would =
be listed
>>> individually; and 2) you make an explicit statement in a README file
>>> about this usage.
>>>
>>> Sadly, the manual does not seem to give a template to use for this, and
>>> I have learnt to stay away from authoring legal texts. I just asked
>>> gnu-prog-discuss about this.
>>>
>>> I cannot find such a statement in the Guix README? Ludo'?
>>
>> Emacs uses
>>
>> In copyright notices where the copyright holder is the Free Software
>> Foundation, then where a range of years appears, this is an inclusive
>> range that applies to every year in the range. For example: 2005-2008
>> represents the years 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.
>>
>> so I propose the attached patch.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> Sorry, spoke too soon. The story continues (this is why I shied away
> from (looking into) using ranges).
>
> On gru-prog-discuss, Eli Zaretskii writes (in response to my suggestion)
>
> I think the idea is that you can only vouch for this interpretation
> when you are the copyright holder. So I think you'd need to mention
> someone else there instead of the FSF, not just leave it empty.
> Because for an arbitrary copyright holder, who's to say what they mean
> by a range of years?
>
> But this is just my understanding; IANAL.
>
> ...TBC
I haven't heard back from the fsf (laywers) yet, so I'm tentatively
proposing the attached patch. It's really beyond me how 58(!) people
managed to use ranges in copyright years where per GNU documentation (am
I the only one actually reading that?) that is quite posssibly not
legally valid. I mean, I don't really care about legalese all that
much, let's drop all silly headers with all the rebase conflicts, the
metadata is in git right?...but if we are to try to cater for this legal
foo-ness, we should probably be [super] strict, no?
Next to the attached patch, there should probably be something about
"add your name to the README" in the Contributing section of the manual.
Greetings,
Janneke
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/x-patch; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline;
filename=0001-doc-Add-note-on-copyright-ranges-to-README.patch
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From 045d76823e98933a6a99aaff23ea7ee450ac8fea Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-ID: <045d76823e98933a6a99aaff23ea7ee450ac8fea.1741897687.git.jannek=
e@HIDDEN>
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 19:48:26 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] doc: Add note on copyright ranges to README.
* README (Note On Copyright Years): New section.
Change-Id: I1b2f8ed544dc83c38479e944ae6e08ddbcafdf35
---
README | 67 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 67 insertions(+)
diff --git a/README b/README
index b9f36f8344f..1d9cea1ea54 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -108,3 +108,70 @@ but exposes all the API as Scheme.
- The [[https://www.gnu.org/s/gsrc/][GNU Source Release Collection]] (GS=
RC) is a user-land software
distribution; unlike Guix, it relies on core tools available on the
host system
+
+* Note On Copyright Years
+
+ In copyright notices where a the copyright holder is one of
+
+ Adam Faiz
+ Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes
+ Andrew Tropin
+ Andy Wingo
+ Artyom V. Poptsov
+ Arun Isaac
+ Brice Waegeneire
+ Bruno Victal
+ Danial Behzadi
+ David Elsing
+ Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
+ Efraim Flashner
+ Eraim Flashner
+ Eric Bavier
+ Evgeny Pisemsky
+ Feross Aboukhadijeh
+ Giacomo Leidi
+ Greg Hogan
+ Guillaume Le Vaillant
+ Hartmut Goebel
+ Herman Rimm
+ Igor Pavlov.
+ Iliya Tikhonenko
+ James Smith
+ Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
+ jgart
+ John Kehayias
+ Jonathan Brielmaier
+ J. Schilling.
+ Julien Lepiller
+ Lennart Regebro
+ Leo Famulari
+ Liam Hupfer
+ Liliana Marie Prikler
+ Ludovic Court=C3=A8s
+ M=C4=83d=C4=83lin Ionel Patra=C8=99cu
+ Marius Bakke
+ Mark H Weaver
+ Martin Becze
+ Maxim Cournoyer
+ Maxime Devos
+ Mike Bostock
+ Navid Afkhami
+ Nicolas Goaziou
+ Paul A. Patience
+ Philip McGrath
+ Remco van 't Veer
+ Ricardo Wurmus
+ Robert Lougher
+ Rocky Bernstein
+ Sharlatan Hellseher
+ Simon Josefsson
+ Suhail Singh
+ Tibor Koleszar
+ Universit=C3=A9 Bordeaux
+ Vinicius Monego
+ Zheng Junjie
+ Zhu Zihao
+
+ then where a range of years appears, this is an inclusive range that app=
lies
+ to every year in the range. For example: 2012-2015 represents the years=
2012,
+ 2013, 2014, and 2015.
base-commit: 678b3dddfe442e643fe5cff7730d4f9690c3e2c2
--=20
2.47.1
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--=20
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org
Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade=
my.com
--=-=-=--
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2025 19:11:34 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 13 15:11:34 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58178 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsnxt-0007HU-TH
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:34 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40672)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsnxo-0007Gv-TB
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:29 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsnxj-0007iI-Ac; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:23 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:To:
From; bh=nniq1MfoUXW4NP4Qpx14/+l1gyMbf4lEiQh2FGCQLmM=; b=b33PlNvPGdQerLNnaCPn
kmCPdAUdajROgbwCTdGHZGcWRa8yQvCJteg/cUeZwUljVrbFnyZPfjiYWmowhxjf4LJepH6CEKLGc
u2Dwh9v+215v0P3wa++etXH+KX3+n7R15FibowqymQeaCD9Dby3GQgprl/bSCdcgP+AzBIxrKYwlg
0c9mLKr4eVvFCGe/Hrlxufnx4AiXGLOTxei/yJ4s0drsM/zdxZuV/AfN+S+VopTiogtc2WwM4YOTG
V956XTcnZl4xsX+ISf7ApupnUkZ6+shqDLI+k2sac/tZz/lXaLaTSP0SEyE3PZUQDTOHpQBzs492P
XqgO+RGpOmkPSQ==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/2] home: Add home-snuik-service.
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:11:04 +0100
Message-ID: <590a719c16fa369898b4c8bb99a303e5f4324341.1741893001.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.47.1
In-Reply-To: <f1b5282432aed6357a76223c12fe2c15f78c1943.1741893001.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
References: <f1b5282432aed6357a76223c12fe2c15f78c1943.1741893001.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Debbugs-Cc: Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
* gnu/home/services/messaging.scm (home-snuik-service-type): New variable.
* doc/guix.texi (Messaging Home Services): Document it.
Change-Id: I1e278e7d8ed04efcb1a2ce9e12e69cb6a31a9fa4
---
doc/guix.texi | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
gnu/home/services/messaging.scm | 21 +++++++++++++++++++--
2 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index 083e561e48c..54e63902fa1 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -49771,6 +49771,34 @@ Messaging Home Services
@end table
@end deftp
+@cindex irc-bot
+@cindex snuik
+The @uref{https://gitlab.com/janneke/snuik, Snuik IRC bot} can be run as
+a daemon to aid talking to users that are currently offline. With the
+@code{(gnu home services messaging)} service, you can configure Snuik to
+run upon login.
+
+@defvar home-snuik-service-type
+This is the type of the Snuik home service, whose value is a
+@code{home-snuik-configuration} object.
+@end defvar
+
+You may specify a custom configuration by providing a
+@code{snuik-configuration} record, exactly like for
+@code{snuik-service-type} and wrapping it in @code{for-home}. Here is
+an example of a service and its configuration that you could add to the
+@code{services} field of your @code{home-environment}:
+
+@lisp
+(service home-snuik-service-type
+ (for-home
+ (snuik-configuration
+ (server "irc.oftc.net")
+ (nick "sneek")
+ (password "snuik is sneeky")
+ (channels '("#reproducible-builds"))))
+@end lisp
+
@node Media Home Services
@subsection Media Home Services
diff --git a/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm b/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
index bd2f1bb23f5..c871869d452 100644
--- a/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
+++ b/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
-;;; Copyright © 2023 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2023, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
;;;
;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
;;;
@@ -20,12 +20,17 @@ (define-module (gnu home services messaging)
#:use-module (srfi srfi-26)
#:use-module (gnu home services)
#:use-module (gnu home services shepherd)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages irc)
#:use-module (gnu packages messaging)
+ #:use-module (gnu services)
#:use-module (gnu services configuration)
#:use-module (gnu services shepherd)
+ #:use-module (gnu services messaging)
+ #:use-module ((gnu system shadow) #:select (account-service-type))
#:use-module (guix records)
#:use-module (guix gexp)
- #:export (home-znc-configuration
+ #:export (home-snuik-service-type
+ home-znc-configuration
home-znc-service-type))
;;;
@@ -64,3 +69,15 @@ (define home-znc-service-type
(description
"Install and configure @command{znc}, an @acronym{IRC, Internet Relay
Chat} bouncer, as a Shepherd service.")))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Snuik.
+;;;
+(define home-snuik-service-type
+ (service-type
+ (inherit (system->home-service-type
+ (remove-service-extensions snuik-service-type
+ (list account-service-type
+ activation-service-type))))
+ (default-value (for-home (snuik-configuration)))))
--
2.47.1
andrew@HIDDEN, janneke@HIDDEN, ludo@HIDDEN, maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN, tanguy@HIDDEN, guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2025 19:11:34 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 13 15:11:33 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsnxs-0007HN-Uk
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:33 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40664)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsnxo-0007Gu-O4
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:30 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsnxi-0007i8-BN; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:11:22 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to:
references; bh=LVqY0L1x/cLnRkRJMgPDcrbRsknhhUT8o8cmjt0z8lw=; b=P60h2FSvRO81L5
MUfahh8galS/SsWbIbaIOxkM5WLBR9Zr0dRU1c/Kj5SzbqVgJg12nCCM6upMZSG539lyG83fkCgDb
pgpzrrUL6EZMYaknTlqyLwSsxYQAYq7KntfH5HIS6NPjeZHrpqxrxdWHi2PMCU20yz7G2lyL7ZQ/0
CzUxTW69gXRQVqDl84WEjKIo81nyoykICwdmXd/z4BmWGsMaokT9BbiQTiB34YBsEvGWerEeRcYE6
oasTbHAQF3HN5jgCpwgnvvhe33OXdanHe5oM630F1w2RtOYOo9s1NsRjZDvXWgA50A0MWt6f8ra2e
AcAgQZjV/AvNzv09izeg==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/2] services: Add snuik-service-type.
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:11:03 +0100
Message-ID: <f1b5282432aed6357a76223c12fe2c15f78c1943.1741893001.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.47.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Debbugs-Cc: Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
* gnu/services/messaging.scm (snuik-configuration): New type.
(snuik-services): New procedure.
(snuik-activation, %snuik-accounts, snuik-service-type): New variables.
* doc/guix.texi (Messaging Services): Document it.
Change-Id: I0c52b4804948876dc1b4d3b5ac660af848a13f25
---
doc/guix.texi | 59 ++++++++++++++++++-
gnu/services/messaging.scm | 114 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
2 files changed, 171 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index d109877a32c..083e561e48c 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 Efraim Flashner@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
-Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
+Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Julien Lepiller@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016 Alex ter Weele@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Christopher Baines@*
@@ -30208,6 +30208,63 @@ Messaging Services
@end table
@end deftp
+@cindex irc-bot
+@cindex snuik
+The @uref{https://gitlab.com/janneke/snuik, Snuik IRC bot} can be run as
+a daemon to aid talking to users that are currently offline. With the
+@code{(gnu services messaging)} service, you can configure it by adding
+a @code{snuik-service-type} service to the @code{services} field of your
+operating system declaration.
+
+@defvar snuik-service-type
+This is the type of the Snuik service, whose value is a
+@code{snuik-configuration} object.
+@end defvar
+
+Here is an example of a service and its configuration:
+
+@lisp
+(service snuik-service-type
+ (snuik-configuration
+ (password-file "/var/run/snuik/.password.snuik")
+ (channels '("#bootstrappable"
+ "#dezyne"
+ "#guix-risc-v"
+ "#lilypond"))))
+@end lisp
+
+@deftp {Data Type} snuik-configuration
+Available @code{snuik-configuration} fields are:
+
+@table @asis
+@item @code{snuik} (default: @code{snuik}) (type: package)
+The Snuik package to use.
+
+@item @code{server} (default: @code{"irc.libera.chat"})
+The IRC server to connect to.
+
+@item @code{port} (default: @code{6665}) (type: integer)
+Port number used by the IRC server.
+
+@item @code{nick} (default: @code{"snuik"}) (type: string)
+The nickname for snuik to use.
+
+@item @code{password} (default: @code{#f}) (type: string)
+The password to use when logging in.
+
+@item @code{password-file} (default: @code{".password.<nick>})
+The file to read the password from to use when logging in.
+
+@item @code{channels} (default: @code{'("##botchat")})
+The channels for snuik to join, a list of strings.
+
+@item @code{extra-options} (default: @code{'()})
+Extra options will be passed to @command{snuik}, please run
+@command{snuik --help } for more information.
+
+@end table
+@end deftp
+
@node Telephony Services
@subsection Telephony Services
diff --git a/gnu/services/messaging.scm b/gnu/services/messaging.scm
index a914d0f89ec..9bfeabacf45 100644
--- a/gnu/services/messaging.scm
+++ b/gnu/services/messaging.scm
@@ -59,7 +59,10 @@ (define-module (gnu services messaging)
bitlbee-service-type
quassel-configuration
- quassel-service-type))
+ quassel-service-type
+
+ snuik-configuration
+ snuik-service-type))
;;; Commentary:
;;;
@@ -1002,3 +1005,112 @@ (define quassel-service-type
"Run @url{https://quassel-irc.org/,quasselcore}, the backend
for the distributed IRC client quassel, which allows you to connect from
multiple machines simultaneously.")))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Snuik.
+;;;
+(define-maybe integer (no-serialization))
+(define-configuration/no-serialization snuik-configuration
+ (snuik (package snuik) "The snuik package to use.")
+ (server maybe-string "The IRC server to connect to.")
+ (port maybe-integer "The port used by the IRC server.")
+ (nick maybe-string "The nickname for snuik to use.")
+ (password maybe-string "The password to use when logging in.")
+ (password-file maybe-string "The file to read the password from.")
+ (channels (list-of-strings '()) "The channels for snuik to join.")
+ (extra-options (list-of-strings '()) "Extra options to be passed to snuik.")
+ (home-service? (boolean for-home?) "Running as home service?"))
+
+(define (snuik-services config)
+ "Return a <shepherd-service> for snuik with CONFIG."
+ (match-record config
+ <snuik-configuration>
+ (snuik server port nick password password-file channels extra-options
+ home-service?)
+ (let* ((password-file (snuik-configuration-password-file config))
+ (mappings `(,@(if home-service?
+ '()
+ `(,(file-system-mapping
+ (source "/var/run/snuik")
+ (target source)
+ (writable? #t))
+ ,@(if password-file
+ (list (file-system-mapping
+ (source password-file)
+ (target source)))
+ '())))))
+ (snuik (least-authority-wrapper
+ (file-append snuik "/bin/snuik")
+ #:name "snuik"
+ #:mappings mappings
+ #:namespaces (delq 'net %namespaces)))
+ (command
+ #~'(#$snuik
+ #$@(if (and server (not (eq? server %unset-value)))
+ (list (string-append "--server=" server))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (and port (not (eq? port %unset-value)))
+ (list (string-append "--port=" (number->string port)))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (and nick (not (eq? nick %unset-value)))
+ (list (string-append "--nick=" nick))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (and password (not (eq? password %unset-value)))
+ (list (string-append "--password=" password))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (and password-file (not (eq? password-file %unset-value)))
+ (list (string-append "--password-file=" password-file))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (pair? channels)
+ (list (string-append "--channels=" (string-join channels ",")))
+ #~())
+ #$@extra-options))
+ (log-file #~(string-append
+ #$(if home-service? #~%user-log-dir "/var/log")
+ "/snuik.log")))
+ (list (shepherd-service
+ (documentation "Run the snuik IRC bot.")
+ (provision '(snuik))
+ (requirement (if home-service? '() '(user-processes networking)))
+ (modules (if home-service?
+ '((shepherd support)) ;for '%user-log-dir'
+ '()))
+ (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor
+ #$command
+ #:log-file #$log-file
+ #:user #$(and (not home-service?) "snuik")
+ #:group #$(and (not home-service?) "snuik")))
+ (stop #~(make-kill-destructor)))))))
+
+(define snuik-activation
+ (with-imported-modules '((guix build utils))
+ #~(begin
+ (use-modules (guix build utils))
+ (let* ((user (getpw "snuik"))
+ (directory "/var/run/snuik"))
+ (mkdir-p directory)
+ (chown directory (passwd:uid user) (passwd:gid user))))))
+
+(define %snuik-accounts
+ (list (user-group (name "snuik") (system? #t))
+ (user-account
+ (name "snuik")
+ (group "snuik")
+ (system? #t)
+ (comment "Snuik IRC bot user")
+ (home-directory "/var/run/snuik")
+ (shell (file-append shadow "/sbin/nologin")))))
+
+(define snuik-service-type
+ (service-type
+ (name 'home-snuik)
+ (description "Run the Snuik IRC bot.")
+ (default-value (snuik-configuration))
+ (extensions
+ (list (service-extension activation-service-type
+ (const snuik-activation))
+ (service-extension account-service-type
+ (const %snuik-accounts))
+ (service-extension shepherd-root-service-type
+ snuik-services)))))
base-commit: 678b3dddfe442e643fe5cff7730d4f9690c3e2c2
--
2.47.1
ludo@HIDDEN, maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN, guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 19:38:38 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 12 15:38:38 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsRuX-0003IA-KZ
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:38:38 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38942)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsRuV-0003Ht-1V
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:38:36 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsRuG-000575-M8; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:38:26 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:
From; bh=BfB3v2XLWKP8mvjmLI2EAxCBHEfxNxI0NsnYcm4Jx74=; b=oNo+hIJHrpU/J4Yuq+Uw
vZ6efXkzKD0fpYGQYnWSPj4jwXOqRgfkVs4VO0So0E9VuFiQQ352Fc73koUUA5Qjqrm86otzErLU+
USJEddUmWUjswlKWN3i8ETZLbYDkj8GAEuI0luhRx6tsGbtFQv4bQa+9qKkvV6yu8RAK7mwJIdYld
kB+1z8V0U8t5W14R86/Gieco25kwuMhlKJUWH3uO6TTOaXPs9BmfFqM6sAcvMFBz4YJkkud1FWbHC
yDGb9WoCXp0apy//9bLUUbwZTixekJ0TwVeejgEt5Jtzvt0oKzIOW5NkfQV83ImgvlyTEFekSBm1b
w8rIgG1hQq14dw==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: [bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.
In-Reply-To: <87cyemgiyk.fsf@HIDDEN> (Janneke Nieuwenhuizen's message of
"Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:14:11 +0100")
Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl
References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
<877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN>
<87cyemgiyk.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:38:14 +0100
Message-ID: <87msdqf3a1.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>,
Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
>
> [..]
>>>> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
>>>> index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
>>>> --- a/doc/guix.texi
>>>> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
>>>> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023=
Efraim Flashner@*
>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
>>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
>>>> -Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023=
, 2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>>> +Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023=
, 2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>>
>>> Maybe use 2016-2025 :-).
>>
>> Hmm. I thought you needed to have a special exception in the README to
>> be able for that to hold up in court. I've been postponing to look into
>> this mess (I used to be too heavily into copyright in my LilyPond years).
>> However, it seems today is the day :)
>>
>> From <https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.html>
>>
>> You can use a range (=E2=80=982008-2010=E2=80=99) instead of listing ind=
ividual years
>> (=E2=80=982008, 2009, 2010=E2=80=99) if and only if: 1) every year in th=
e range,
>> inclusive, really is a =E2=80=9Ccopyrightable=E2=80=9D year that would b=
e listed
>> individually; and 2) you make an explicit statement in a README file
>> about this usage.
>>
>> Sadly, the manual does not seem to give a template to use for this, and
>> I have learnt to stay away from authoring legal texts. I just asked
>> gnu-prog-discuss about this.
>>
>> I cannot find such a statement in the Guix README? Ludo'?
>
> Emacs uses
>
> In copyright notices where the copyright holder is the Free Software
> Foundation, then where a range of years appears, this is an inclusive
> range that applies to every year in the range. For example: 2005-2008
> represents the years 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.
>
> so I propose the attached patch.
>
> WDYT?
Sorry, spoke too soon. The story continues (this is why I shied away
from (looking into) using ranges).
On gru-prog-discuss, Eli Zaretskii writes (in response to my suggestion)
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
I think the idea is that you can only vouch for this interpretation
when you are the copyright holder. So I think you'd need to mention
someone else there instead of the FSF, not just leave it empty.
Because for an arbitrary copyright holder, who's to say what they mean
by a range of years?
But this is just my understanding; IANAL.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
...TBC
Greetings,
Janneke
--=20
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org
Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade=
my.com
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 19:14:26 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 12 15:14:26 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsRX8-0007U9-84
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:14:26 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45238)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsRX5-0007Ts-GA
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:14:24 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsRWx-0000b1-Jj; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:14:15 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:
From; bh=C9sAbmoCe4RT1mpfHOUa/QbZx6/ZwTx00OYUqV6e+NQ=; b=NB75Vv5JklDJvkj4FvG6
mm3/6NKLE2xrPr2lpo9U5UXk+vzTSTgNAG+1ehMb6mTwdJjPIr1ixHHQVRVuxYi2KAwv9LjBXmxp6
wmfeV4gHMEtvWcG3vRyeF8FqOb8BP7ywDnwiFEAjEnEZLNp92H/xi+IfSego3vAeYiq3qEA4V5hxy
0NSw6LuWECZMNUwgi90/5DOk+W2epB4vfk/ElY64uNzFY3EBmMVHE+B3u/KkywyDyOR98OMNGlocH
UpS1lmUyS+F3DB+vSSBqPR+njpGEGy3ZflZykdy5CuhIBEqJ4Dlp85FmqMHFtTfOHH4htykGP+maL
x4YjrK0ENQtAAA==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: [bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.
In-Reply-To: <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN> (Janneke Nieuwenhuizen's message of
"Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:40:56 +0100")
Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl
References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
<877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:14:11 +0100
Message-ID: <87cyemgiyk.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-="
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>,
Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:
[..]
>>> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
>>> index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
>>> --- a/doc/guix.texi
>>> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
>>> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 =
Efraim Flashner@*
>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
>>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
>>> -Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023,=
2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>> +Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023,=
2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>>
>> Maybe use 2016-2025 :-).
>
> Hmm. I thought you needed to have a special exception in the README to
> be able for that to hold up in court. I've been postponing to look into
> this mess (I used to be too heavily into copyright in my LilyPond years).
> However, it seems today is the day :)
>
> From <https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.html>
>
> You can use a range (=E2=80=982008-2010=E2=80=99) instead of listing indi=
vidual years
> (=E2=80=982008, 2009, 2010=E2=80=99) if and only if: 1) every year in the=
range,
> inclusive, really is a =E2=80=9Ccopyrightable=E2=80=9D year that would be=
listed
> individually; and 2) you make an explicit statement in a README file
> about this usage.
>
> Sadly, the manual does not seem to give a template to use for this, and
> I have learnt to stay away from authoring legal texts. I just asked
> gnu-prog-discuss about this.
>
> I cannot find such a statement in the Guix README? Ludo'?
Emacs uses
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
In copyright notices where the copyright holder is the Free Software
Foundation, then where a range of years appears, this is an inclusive
range that applies to every year in the range. For example: 2005-2008
represents the years 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
so I propose the attached patch.
WDYT?
Greetings,
Janneke
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/x-patch
Content-Disposition: inline;
filename=0001-doc-Add-note-on-copyright-ranges-to-README.patch
From 571705169251caeb5cdacc9418dc5665880f9008 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-ID: <571705169251caeb5cdacc9418dc5665880f9008.1741806833.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 19:48:26 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] doc: Add note on copyright ranges to README.
* README (Note On Copyright Years): New section.
Change-Id: I1b2f8ed544dc83c38479e944ae6e08ddbcafdf35
---
README | 6 ++++++
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
diff --git a/README b/README
index b9f36f8344..edf1215704 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -108,3 +108,9 @@ but exposes all the API as Scheme.
- The [[https://www.gnu.org/s/gsrc/][GNU Source Release Collection]] (GSRC) is a user-land software
distribution; unlike Guix, it relies on core tools available on the
host system
+
+* Note On Copyright Years
+
+In copyright notices where a range of years appears, this is an inclusive
+range that applies to every year in the range. For example: 2005-2008
+represents the years 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008.
base-commit: dec40dd50f3490d5b96d19d98d54782ee2fb02a9
prerequisite-patch-id: d6040718f85c458c1ec6e7e7b1292fdd5b4a32d4
prerequisite-patch-id: 0b629b0cc9b64ddf9d00974018855b6f4f0d57b1
--
2.47.1
--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
--=20
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org
Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade=
my.com
--=-=-=--
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 15:41:16 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 12 11:41:16 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsOCp-0005mn-ME
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:41:16 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36218)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1tsOCn-0005mX-3B
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:41:13 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsOCg-00043h-HE; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:41:06 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To:
From; bh=/xZUng0pNJ3eZS/3K5MoNQD9kjL5moz3LTf+o9dOw7w=; b=o2JXlKMOzRT0Ome5aJyh
MeLr/iX/KoRAtMScSW9ObthVMt7puErUbYA6X5MsgiijIGTgOaBFEHrAQ5Z6yfEZ2AbgMpRXnTLqf
qzrgbGmdGH9m+Zt/NTFi2etGKiyFCM5ziDZQDRydU/L8R4bFNQZU4QGpeeuxLpAy3rA2CZa+417sX
FXnBHCURPdSBJLaTUaSiMZ+On9dX1NAgH4ZJYFraYCXc1x8juVMnScxjgjjxa0To8lMiPt8sLXWIy
XIqqgnWR78pCwKDaN825pN9acRawMa69L5mJ0M7kmUYzcoRbBK7A9Swo+QHxbO5Qx2S37OfOzcPeo
ARlU/W0FITJPvQ==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: [bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.
In-Reply-To: <877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Wed, 12
Mar 2025 21:47:35 +0900")
Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl
References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
<877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:40:56 +0100
Message-ID: <87ikoel0jb.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>,
Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)
Maxim Cournoyer writes:
Hi Maxim,
> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> * gnu/home/services/messaging.scm (<home-snuik-configuration>): New type.
>> (home-snuik-services, home-snuik-service-type): New procedures.
>> * doc/guix.texi (Messaging Home Services): Document it.
>>
>> Change-Id: I1e278e7d8ed04efcb1a2ce9e12e69cb6a31a9fa4
>> ---
>> doc/guix.texi | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> gnu/home/services/messaging.scm | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>
> Wouldn't such a service be a more natural match for a system service?
> It seems like something I'd like running on a headless server.
I suppose you're right. I've been thinking about that but am not too
thrilled of running snuik v0.2 as root. I'll make it a system service
and use (for-home ...) to provide a home service. Using the
least-authority-wrapper should (thanks for mentioning that, I wasn't
aware of this feature!) address my concerns about taking this route.
>> 2 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
>> index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
>> --- a/doc/guix.texi
>> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
>> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 E=
fraim Flashner@*
>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
>> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
>> -Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, =
2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>> +Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, =
2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
>
> Maybe use 2016-2025 :-).
Hmm. I thought you needed to have a special exception in the README to
be able for that to hold up in court. I've been postponing to look into
this mess (I used to be too heavily into copyright in my LilyPond years).
However, it seems today is the day :)
From <https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Notices.html>
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
You can use a range (=E2=80=982008-2010=E2=80=99) instead of listing indivi=
dual years
(=E2=80=982008, 2009, 2010=E2=80=99) if and only if: 1) every year in the r=
ange,
inclusive, really is a =E2=80=9Ccopyrightable=E2=80=9D year that would be l=
isted
individually; and 2) you make an explicit statement in a README file
about this usage.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Sadly, the manual does not seem to give a template to use for this, and
I have learnt to stay away from authoring legal texts. I just asked
gnu-prog-discuss about this.
I cannot find such a statement in the Guix README? Ludo'?
>> +The @uref{https://gitlab.com/janneke/snuik, Snuik IRC bot} can be run as
>> +a daemon to aid talking to users that are currently off-line. With the
>> +@code{(gnu home services messaging)} service, you can configure Snuik to
>> +run upon login.
>
> nitpick: I've only ever seen 'offline' spelled as a single word.
The numbers
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
15:53:37 janneke@glimdal:~/src/guix/core-packages-team=20
$ git grep off-line |wc -l
39
15:54:23 janneke@glimdal:~/src/guix/core-packages-team=20
$ git grep offline |wc -l
448
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
are overwhelmingly in your favor, so I'll take your suggestion, thanks :)
=20
>> +
>> +;;;
>> +;;; Snuik.
>> +;;;
>> +(define-record-type* <home-snuik-configuration>
>> + home-snuik-configuration make-home-snuik-configuration
>> + home-snuik-configuration?
>> + (snuik home-snuik-snuik ;file-like
>> + (default snuik))
[..]
> I'd use define-configuration/no-serialization from (gnu services configur=
ation), which
> will type-check the field values and produce useful errors in case of a
> mistake, which is more useful than a comment in the source file :-).
Ok.
>> +(define (home-snuik-services config)
[..]
>> + (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor #$command
>> + #:log-file #$log-file))
>> + (stop #~(make-kill-destructor)))))))
>
> Can home services use the least-authority-wrapper to containerize the
> processes? If yes, that'd be nice to use it.
Looking at dicod-shepherd-service, it has (if home-service?...) and uses
the least-authority-wrapper. I'm wondering how this works for read
access to the password-file and read/write access to snuik's database
store directory but I'll look into this.
Thanks for your very useful comments, I've got some homework! :)
I intend to send a v2 with system+home service and
least-authority-wrapper...but I need to learn a few things about bothe
these things and then also do some testing.
Greetings,
Janneke
--=20
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org
Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade=
my.com
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at 76963) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 12:48:04 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 12 08:48:04 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47793 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1tsLVD-0005M9-DA
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:48:04 -0400
Received: from mail-yw1-x1130.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1130]:53687)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>)
id 1tsLV9-0005LX-4n
for 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:48:00 -0400
Received: by mail-yw1-x1130.google.com with SMTP id
00721157ae682-6feb229b716so60352937b3.3
for <76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 05:47:59 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1741783671; x=1742388471; darn=debbugs.gnu.org;
h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to
:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
bh=vGHTy6mNbddS9Rit+8vzXCYDM8kY+0EZ1ykqhcImobE=;
b=DYwank68aWIqa8n81GP8QPxM4C1bdgeZU8vNrNr8UimZ7cY62iczANovpG+gOzelUv
Q2csHkTImnWs426COXh7y2EZZzNe2fwiuRDTniAoC/KDxYDe5XwIbaHAi4qQiRuCd5TN
22NAz3xRAVIUpqXNRZx5md/f3DfoYMkz0Dhr0NxMzSjXhaBroLydnoAlt4r/R56Ja8Bs
PBoarGs19gj1QZtjYdW60+Rh6G2DzPbRBczxOzEBKuaumobNAHiOP93rTUlWr+jLt9Ms
GIVYxd+xYBuQFT8y48R0rIChMFJS0kXDTVWJA2Y4Nt1oT2IRkiao2zBYsQDyN6xnTUFr
ZscQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1741783671; x=1742388471;
h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to
:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date
:message-id:reply-to;
bh=vGHTy6mNbddS9Rit+8vzXCYDM8kY+0EZ1ykqhcImobE=;
b=sChISbBxq0ypPTlD2UGiHraMe4xqHNT7yyb3rhbhXo9CIyu8Z6EEETS4woPpUHchub
NWWXSgn1lSnxOYgJHxqvbboAcurVhGuw4TfKo+CNcRW4fgNtUF18eH+BKTabNm+J4nXg
hRVttBFMyoAsVDYs2PYk0mRpZRKfhtcPNc3uRH/JvcmTrthLkT8Ee8kF9+lQqfN+oP3g
P4E2qzXDie2i4tVBe8kC7cqS/2LQcjmcl+4IBEsZuHSWfZ3HP4iwdSpmqyQksMcFMR6j
pTrf2pPkM+gm3IVETKGZw0LL+RI/5i0Z3iXnwEkhbmapPlSvXdCXy3jjQXPm64LCoK4C
VtPw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxXB3aIFTMptBe23rdV4wpCyXCQsSBU3HxYoybWSN0BZC/CDUAs
yI4Pd8uEUFyxdpH31J0o4o1W8Mv6pyzuvLYgRthZG5mMpwT8Nk7m
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnculzOqk2xNDOVzqtJjLcBA39seGC/lF6VNFndBeBrJk4Iv8zbDoPOXEdmwX2iX
rN1W4+Ikig+AJHMO8nLtz8oHCTWUq9noS8j33Vcr6sLupSd/1+rNSqNBmejCiagckwcUZfq+rPy
KHdBBSOnmo9ppSL7tDsT4KOoQUFW5wi5v5J/fkWV+kGFs9ntlP43BG1OW9mbqVr399CZr1HtXw7
k2Os/Uk0oy5M1pA+jgKnZtwbdtkLLVmJbbo6RvnjZ2B4kUrUBpGu5DmuFjrgI9hx8nzthEZFJaM
eBiI+6vF7cLfU05CcCXWkisPadR47hjIEiDxEubKpq54evFIcQ+x/kNTTxAZ1aax/w==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFQpupOM6yWceSzz1LhQJFBu5waV9SbkmhoQ6CL8mnHBEZ9fRB2Ff2MbrGYzunVA4Bs98Z0Pw==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:7207:b0:6fd:47c1:fce4 with SMTP id
00721157ae682-6febf329b15mr285924607b3.22.1741783671191;
Wed, 12 Mar 2025 05:47:51 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from terra (vps-6234970c.vps.ovh.ca. [51.222.13.224])
by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id
00721157ae682-6feb2a1c44esm31180477b3.4.2025.03.12.05.47.48
(version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256);
Wed, 12 Mar 2025 05:47:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>
To: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
Subject: Re: [bug#76963] [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.
In-Reply-To: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
(Janneke Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2025 22:54:55 +0100")
References: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:47:35 +0900
Message-ID: <877c4ufmag.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76963
Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>,
Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>, 76963 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-)
Hi Janneke!
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN> writes:
> * gnu/home/services/messaging.scm (<home-snuik-configuration>): New type.
> (home-snuik-services, home-snuik-service-type): New procedures.
> * doc/guix.texi (Messaging Home Services): Document it.
>
> Change-Id: I1e278e7d8ed04efcb1a2ce9e12e69cb6a31a9fa4
> ---
> doc/guix.texi | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> gnu/home/services/messaging.scm | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
Wouldn't such a service be a more natural match for a system service?
It seems like something I'd like running on a headless server.
> 2 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
> index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
> --- a/doc/guix.texi
> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 Efraim Flashner@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
> -Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
> +Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
Maybe use 2016-2025 :-).
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Julien Lepiller@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016 Alex ter Weele@*
> Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Christopher Baines@*
> @@ -49714,6 +49714,62 @@ Messaging Home Services
> @end table
> @end deftp
>
> +@cindex snuik
> +The @uref{https://gitlab.com/janneke/snuik, Snuik IRC bot} can be run as
> +a daemon to aid talking to users that are currently off-line. With the
> +@code{(gnu home services messaging)} service, you can configure Snuik to
> +run upon login.
nitpick: I've only ever seen 'offline' spelled as a single word.
[...]
> +
> +;;;
> +;;; Snuik.
> +;;;
> +(define-record-type* <home-snuik-configuration>
> + home-snuik-configuration make-home-snuik-configuration
> + home-snuik-configuration?
> + (snuik home-snuik-snuik ;file-like
> + (default snuik))
> + (server home-snuik-server ;string
> + (default #f))
> + (port home-snuik-port ;integer
> + (default #f))
> + (nick home-snuik-nick ;string
> + (default #f))
> + (password home-snuik-password ;string
> + (default #f))
> + (password-file home-snuik-password-file ;string
> + (default #f))
> + (channels home-snuik-channels ;list of string
> + (default '()))
> + (extra-options home-snuik-extra-options ;list of string
> + (default '())))
I'd use define-configuration/no-serialization from (gnu services configuration), which
will type-check the field values and produce useful errors in case of a
mistake, which is more useful than a comment in the source file :-).
> +(define (home-snuik-services config)
> + "Return a <shepherd-service> for snuik with CONFIG."
> + (match-record config
> + <home-snuik-configuration>
> + (snuik server port nick password password-file channels extra-options)
> + (let* ((snuik (file-append snuik "/bin/snuik"))
> + (command #~'(#$snuik
> + #$@(if server
> + #~("--server" #$server)
> + #~())
> + #$@(if port
> + #~("--port" (number->string port))
> + #~())
> + #$@(if nick
> + #~("--nick" nick)
> + #~())
> + #$@(if password
> + #~("--password" password)
> + #~())
> + #$@(if password-file
> + #~("--password-file" password-file)
> + #~())
> + #$@(if (pair? channels)
> + #~("--channels" (string-join channels ","))
> + #~())
> + #$@extra-options))
> + (log-file #~(string-append %user-log-dir "/snuik.log")))
> + (list (shepherd-service
> + (documentation "Run the snuik IRC bot.")
> + (provision '(snuik))
> + (modules '((shepherd support))) ;for '%user-log-dir'
> + (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor #$command
> + #:log-file #$log-file))
> + (stop #~(make-kill-destructor)))))))
Can home services use the least-authority-wrapper to containerize the
processes? If yes, that'd be nice to use it.
--
Thanks,
Maxim
guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 21:55:11 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 11 17:55:11 2025
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
id 1ts7Z8-0005Ry-QT
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:55:11 -0400
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:38140)
by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1ts7Z4-0005LL-Ly
for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:55:07 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10])
by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>) id 1ts7Yy-0004de-6q
for guix-patches@HIDDEN; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:55:00 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e])
by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <janneke@HIDDEN>)
id 1ts7Yw-0001AM-Ie; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:54:58 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org;
s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to:
references; bh=ctyaAHo2eM1h5eGpH8YM7seW/Oo17RSWz685P1EPAAA=; b=pbK62NnlsARkxV
MlZFKMNZTatA8CtTHDLr4i6Rjns0aB/3dEeVWGJuOWQIcHsfznlZGhlCBVrL70fwz3LUOlHe+iFVk
VwLLsUzN6Cc3O+xzTvM/L7Kk0tNOum9+7RI4/rJ7xx6o2lgjOed34LNx5eV0/D/iySYoX6mDORp31
zbCqQ6ij96g/7debWp6P4nXvOlY6UkUg2TvXx0PI//3S5x3yqkBeTtgv6oYaIeHbslv2tiURFhph2
kOWFF14hQUmX6Iwp4IONToDhbRHoYo/6SJTI3iIJjfq9Sb0ANk/3lUJg3afMKfxpeHvoOczHdTn5h
/AXCsW0rEBY8HyodgOig==;
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
To: guix-patches@HIDDEN
Subject: [PATCH] home: Add home-snuik-service.
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 22:54:55 +0100
Message-ID: <7f43764f98a45b92cce1be2e7d352e3c791cebf8.1741729617.git.janneke@HIDDEN>
X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.47.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Debbugs-Cc: Andrew Tropin <andrew@HIDDEN>, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@HIDDEN>, Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN>, Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@HIDDEN>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>,
<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-)
* gnu/home/services/messaging.scm (<home-snuik-configuration>): New type.
(home-snuik-services, home-snuik-service-type): New procedures.
* doc/guix.texi (Messaging Home Services): Document it.
Change-Id: I1e278e7d8ed04efcb1a2ce9e12e69cb6a31a9fa4
---
doc/guix.texi | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
gnu/home/services/messaging.scm | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
2 files changed, 132 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index d109877a32..f35e156376 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 Efraim Flashner@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016 John Darrington@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017 Nikita Gillmann@*
-Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
+Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Julien Lepiller@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016 Alex ter Weele@*
Copyright @copyright{} 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Christopher Baines@*
@@ -49714,6 +49714,62 @@ Messaging Home Services
@end table
@end deftp
+@cindex snuik
+The @uref{https://gitlab.com/janneke/snuik, Snuik IRC bot} can be run as
+a daemon to aid talking to users that are currently off-line. With the
+@code{(gnu home services messaging)} service, you can configure Snuik to
+run upon login.
+
+Here is an example of a service and its configuration that you could add
+to the @code{services} field of your @code{home-environment}:
+
+@lisp
+(service home-snuik-service-type
+ (home-snuik-configuration
+ (password-file ".password.snuik")
+ (channels '("#bootstrappable"
+ "#dezyne"
+ "#guix-risc-v"
+ "#lilypond"))))
+@end lisp
+
+@defvar home-snuik-service-type
+This is the type of the Snuik home service, whose value is a
+@code{home-snuik-configuration} object.
+@end defvar
+
+@deftp {Data Type} home-snuik-configuration
+Available @code{home-snuik-configuration} fields are:
+
+@table @asis
+@item @code{snuik} (default: @code{snuik}) (type: file-like)
+The Snuik package to use.
+
+@item @code{server} (default: @code{"irc.libera.chat"})
+The IRC server to connect to.
+
+@item @code{port} (default: @code{6665})
+Port number used by the IRC server.
+
+@item @code{nick} (default: @code{"snuik"})
+The nickname for snuik to use.
+
+@item @code{password} (default: @code{#f})
+The password to use when logging in.
+
+@item @code{password-file} (default: @code{".password.<nick>})
+The file to read the password from to use when logging in.
+
+@item @code{channels} (default: @code{'("##botchat")})
+The channels for snuik to join, a list of strings.
+
+@item @code{extra-options} (default: @code{'()})
+Extra options will be passed to @command{snuik}, please run
+@command{snuik --help } for more information.
+
+@end table
+@end deftp
+
@node Media Home Services
@subsection Media Home Services
diff --git a/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm b/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
index bd2f1bb23f..be2a3436ba 100644
--- a/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
+++ b/gnu/home/services/messaging.scm
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
-;;; Copyright © 2023 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
+;;; Copyright © 2023, 2025 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>
;;;
;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
;;;
@@ -20,12 +20,15 @@ (define-module (gnu home services messaging)
#:use-module (srfi srfi-26)
#:use-module (gnu home services)
#:use-module (gnu home services shepherd)
+ #:use-module (gnu packages irc)
#:use-module (gnu packages messaging)
#:use-module (gnu services configuration)
#:use-module (gnu services shepherd)
#:use-module (guix records)
#:use-module (guix gexp)
- #:export (home-znc-configuration
+ #:export (home-snuik-configuration
+ home-snuik-service-type
+ home-znc-configuration
home-znc-service-type))
;;;
@@ -64,3 +67,73 @@ (define home-znc-service-type
(description
"Install and configure @command{znc}, an @acronym{IRC, Internet Relay
Chat} bouncer, as a Shepherd service.")))
+
+
+;;;
+;;; Snuik.
+;;;
+(define-record-type* <home-snuik-configuration>
+ home-snuik-configuration make-home-snuik-configuration
+ home-snuik-configuration?
+ (snuik home-snuik-snuik ;file-like
+ (default snuik))
+ (server home-snuik-server ;string
+ (default #f))
+ (port home-snuik-port ;integer
+ (default #f))
+ (nick home-snuik-nick ;string
+ (default #f))
+ (password home-snuik-password ;string
+ (default #f))
+ (password-file home-snuik-password-file ;string
+ (default #f))
+ (channels home-snuik-channels ;list of string
+ (default '()))
+ (extra-options home-snuik-extra-options ;list of string
+ (default '())))
+
+(define (home-snuik-services config)
+ "Return a <shepherd-service> for snuik with CONFIG."
+ (match-record config
+ <home-snuik-configuration>
+ (snuik server port nick password password-file channels extra-options)
+ (let* ((snuik (file-append snuik "/bin/snuik"))
+ (command #~'(#$snuik
+ #$@(if server
+ #~("--server" #$server)
+ #~())
+ #$@(if port
+ #~("--port" (number->string port))
+ #~())
+ #$@(if nick
+ #~("--nick" nick)
+ #~())
+ #$@(if password
+ #~("--password" password)
+ #~())
+ #$@(if password-file
+ #~("--password-file" password-file)
+ #~())
+ #$@(if (pair? channels)
+ #~("--channels" (string-join channels ","))
+ #~())
+ #$@extra-options))
+ (log-file #~(string-append %user-log-dir "/snuik.log")))
+ (list (shepherd-service
+ (documentation "Run the snuik IRC bot.")
+ (provision '(snuik))
+ (modules '((shepherd support))) ;for '%user-log-dir'
+ (start #~(make-forkexec-constructor #$command
+ #:log-file #$log-file))
+ (stop #~(make-kill-destructor)))))))
+
+(define home-snuik-service-type
+ (service-type
+ (name 'home-snuik)
+ (default-value (home-snuik-configuration))
+ (extensions
+ (list (service-extension home-shepherd-service-type
+ home-snuik-services)))
+ (description
+ "Install and configure the Snuik IRC bot so that it runs as a Shepherd
+service.")))
base-commit: d685a45edf0f89e5876ffc9d880068d8610e5f8a
--
2.47.1
Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@HIDDEN>:andrew@HIDDEN, janneke@HIDDEN, ludo@HIDDEN, maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN, tanguy@HIDDEN, guix-patches@HIDDEN.
Full text available.andrew@HIDDEN, janneke@HIDDEN, ludo@HIDDEN, maxim.cournoyer@HIDDEN, tanguy@HIDDEN, guix-patches@HIDDEN:bug#76963; Package guix-patches.
Full text available.
GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham,
1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd,
1994-97 Ian Jackson.