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14.0.9; PDF2DSC removed in Ghostscript 10.05.0

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Package: auctex; Reported by: philanche <philanche@HIDDEN>; Keywords: fixed; Done: Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN>; Maintainer for auctex is bug-auctex@HIDDEN.
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tags 77011 fixed
close 77011
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philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@HIDDEN> writes:

> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit: 
> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd.

And it came back with this commit:

https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=528d324a7968ad89401ebb60dfdb22f9fdfeeb6b

So I'm closing this report.  Many thanks for letting us know.

Best, Arash




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tags 77011 fixed
close 77011
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philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@HIDDEN> writes:

> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit: 
> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd.

And it came back with this commit:

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So I'm closing this report.  Many thanks for letting us know.

Best, Arash




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Ikumi Keita <ikumi@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi all,
>
>>>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
>> philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX
>> <bug-auctex@HIDDEN> writes:
>>> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit: 
>>> 
>>> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd.
>>> 
>>> Since preview-auctex uses pdf2dsc as part of the rendering, trying to
>>> preview anything, such as a simple \(x\), will give the following
>>> error.
>
>> Thanks for the heads-up.  IIUC, that change breaks preview wholesale.
>
>> @Keita: I think you're mostly familiar with preview.el.  Can we work
>> around this change?  Or should we ask the Ghostscript people to put that
>> utility back?  The way I read
>
>>   https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708272
>
>> that door is still open.
>
> Hmm, this is disastrous for preview-latex. I'll ask Ghostscript
> developers to try to retain pdf2dsc.

It is comparatively easy to trigger Ghostscript to render individual PDF
pages, so technologically there is no justification for what
preview-latex does here.

The problem is that it would need to go back under the operating table
and get a separate communication module for talking with Ghostscript
about PDF files: right now it just talks about the pseudo PostScript
wrapper produced by pdf2dsc.

Exacerbating this is that last time I looked there really was no
dependable API or documentation for this feat which is obviously not a
part of the PDF document standard itself (which details nothing about
_how_ to trigger rendering of PDF with a particular engine, let alone
interactively and out of order).

In comparison, pdf2dsc has been remarkably stable and reliable as an
interface into page-wise rendering, and part of the reason is that the
Ghostscript maintainers themselves were responsible for keeping it
working for its limited purposes.

-- 
David Kastrup




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Hi all,

>>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
> philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@g=
nu.org> writes:
>> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit=
: =

>> =

>> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=3D=
be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd. =

>> =

>> Since preview-auctex uses pdf2dsc as part of the rendering, trying to
>> preview anything, such as a simple \(x\), will give the following
>> error.

> Thanks for the heads-up.  IIUC, that change breaks preview wholesale.

> @Keita: I think you're mostly familiar with preview.el.  Can we work
> around this change?  Or should we ask the Ghostscript people to put that
> utility back?  The way I read

>   https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D708272

> that door is still open.

Hmm, this is disastrous for preview-latex. I'll ask Ghostscript
developers to try to retain pdf2dsc.

Regards,
Ikumi Keita
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Hi all,

>>>>> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
> philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@g=
nu.org> writes:
>> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit=
: =

>> =

>> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=3D=
be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd. =

>> =

>> Since preview-auctex uses pdf2dsc as part of the rendering, trying to
>> preview anything, such as a simple \(x\), will give the following
>> error.

> Thanks for the heads-up.  IIUC, that change breaks preview wholesale.

> @Keita: I think you're mostly familiar with preview.el.  Can we work
> around this change?  Or should we ask the Ghostscript people to put that
> utility back?  The way I read

>   https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D708272

> that door is still open.

Hmm, this is disastrous for preview-latex. I'll ask Ghostscript
developers to try to retain pdf2dsc.

Regards,
Ikumi Keita
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philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@HIDDEN> writes:

> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit: 
>
> https://cgit.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/ghostpdl.git/commit/?id=be0f68e6119879e440c134ae1c2582574e7942bd. 
>
> Since preview-auctex uses pdf2dsc as part of the rendering, trying to
> preview anything, such as a simple \(x\), will give the following
> error.

Thanks for the heads-up.  IIUC, that change breaks preview wholesale.

@Keita: I think you're mostly familiar with preview.el.  Can we work
around this change?  Or should we ask the Ghostscript people to put that
utility back?  The way I read

  https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708272

that door is still open.

Best, Arash




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philanche via bug-auctex via Bug reporting list for AUCTeX <bug-auctex@HIDDEN> writes:

> In Ghostscript 10.05.0, pdf2dsc was removed, as of the following commit: 
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> Since preview-auctex uses pdf2dsc as part of the rendering, trying to
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Thanks for the heads-up.  IIUC, that change breaks preview wholesale.

@Keita: I think you're mostly familiar with preview.el.  Can we work
around this change?  Or should we ask the Ghostscript people to put that
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  https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708272

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Acknowledgement sent to philanche <philanche@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-auctex@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-auctex@HIDDEN:
bug#77011; Package auctex. Full text available.
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