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Hi Richard - thanks much for the patch.  It looks quite reasonable.
I'll check and install it as soon as I have a chance. I think we also
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Thanks again,
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Richard Hansen wrote:
> Attached are a couple of patches to improve the TAP driver.  I don't 
> know if `--merge-prefix' is the best name for the new option; 
> suggestions for alternatives would be appreciated.

I would suggest `--label-stderr' or `--stderr-message-prefix' as better 
option names to open a discussion.  The main problem I see with 
`--merge-prefix' is that it is using "merge" in a sense that can only be 
understood with the detailed context of what the TAP driver does.


-- Jacob





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    How about `--stderr-prefix`?  
    ...
    I could make this option independent of `--merge` and always prefix each 
    line of the test script's stderr.

Sounds sensible to me. Clear behavior is good. I like that better than
implicitly turning on --merge.

    I wonder if this should have a default prefix so that users 
    don't have to figure out how to pass `#`. 

Hmm.

       * `--stderr-prefix` by itself to prefix with the default of `# `

I haven't studied this, but I wonder about "#stderr# " as the default.
Maybe that's too verbose in practice.

       * `--stderr-prefix custom-prefix` to prefix with `custom-prefix`
    This would be a bit more complicated to implement because the script 
    would need a heuristic to determine whether the user passed a custom 
    prefix or not (such as, "there is an argument after `--stderr-prefix` 
    and that argument does not begin with `-`").

Optional argument heuristics don't sound ideal to me. tap-driver.sh
takes its final non-option argument, so if the new option ended up last,
there would be:
 tap-driver.sh ... --stderr-prefix TEST-COMMAND
and nothing good would result. There's also the question of what to do
if the possibly-optional argument was "--". Let's just not go there.

Instead, as a nod to practicality aka kludge, I wonder about replacing
the string "sharp" (or "octothorpe", or some such) in the argument with a #.

    difficult to portably add a `#` character to a 
    make variable, as you can see in the test I added.  

Perusing your patch again, I see you used
    printf %03o
to get around that. I hope that's portable in practice.

I wonder if automake actually works under EBCDIC. I wouldn't be
surprised if ASCII is assumed more or less throughout. Anyway, nice
defensive thinking there. :)

    p.s. I requested a copyright assignment form.

Thanks much for all.




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Karl Berry wrote:
>     How about `--stderr-prefix`?  
>     ...
>     I could make this option independent of `--merge` and always prefix each 
>     line of the test script's stderr.
>
> Sounds sensible to me. Clear behavior is good. I like that better than
> implicitly turning on --merge.
>   

I like this idea, too.

> [...]
>
> Instead, as a nod to practicality aka kludge, I wonder about replacing
> the string "sharp" (or "octothorpe", or some such) in the argument with a #.
>   

How about recognizing the Autoconf @%:@ quadrigraph for #?  If need be, 
it could be escaped as @%@&t@:@ to get past the regular quadrigraph 
processing.


-- Jacob




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