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Hi Richard - a friend (Nelson Beebe) ran the automake test suite on
numerous systems on the 1.17.90 pretest. There was a plethora of
failures, and they seem to related to the new stderr-prefix failure and
shell quoting. Maybe.
It seems that the prefixing happened in general? That tap output doesn't
make much sense to me at first blush, I'm afraid. Anyway, I'll append
one particular failure (on Debian12/x86 system), and send you
separately a tarball with full logs. (I can't attach it here because my
friend doesn't want all his system info floating around in public. It's
fine to show non-identified data.)
Or, briefly looking at the logs, I wonder if his incredibly complex
$HOME/config.site file could be interfering with the tests -- though it
never did before. Maybe we somehow have to disable that for automake
test. Hmm.
(Aside: looks like our "compatible" change to py-compile is broken
too. Everything's broken. Sigh.)
Help? I'll be mostly offline the next couple of days, but hope to look
at it all in more detail this weekend. Thanks,
Karl
Here is the list of all failures on his Debian 12/x86 system:
34 lines matching "^FAIL:"
11535:FAIL: t/instspc
14168:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 16 - ampersand in destdir
14541:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 19 - leftpar in builddir
14579:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 20 - leftpar in destdir
14628:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 21 - rightpar in builddir
14676:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 22 - rightpar in destdir
14801:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 23 - pipe in builddir
14902:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 24 - pipe in destdir
16959:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 37 - comma in builddir
17040:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 38 - comma in destdir
17472:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 41 - semicol in builddir
17573:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 42 - semicol in destdir
18001:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 45 - less in builddir
18122:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 46 - less in destdir
18227:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 47 - more in builddir
18300:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 48 - more in destdir
20029:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 59 - space in builddir
20128:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 60 - space in destdir
20232:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 61 - tab in builddir
20331:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 62 - tab in destdir
21630:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 72 - quadrigraph0 in destdir
21733:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 73 - quadrigraph1 in builddir
21831:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 74 - quadrigraph1 in destdir
21935:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 75 - quadrigraph2 in builddir
22033:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 76 - quadrigraph2 in destdir
22153:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 77 - quadrigraph3 in builddir
22261:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 78 - quadrigraph3 in destdir
22672:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 81 - a_b in builddir
22773:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 82 - a_b in destdir
22890:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 83 - a__b in builddir
23008:FAIL: t/instspc.tap 84 - a__b in destdir
26584:FAIL: t/nodef
26730:FAIL: t/nodef2
27924:FAIL: t/py-compile-usage
And here is what I see for one particular failure:
FAIL: t/instspc.tap 16 - ampersand in destdir
#[stderr]+ result_ 'not ok' -D '' -r '' -- 'ampersand in destdir'
#[stderr]+ set +x
#[stderr]+ cd /local/build/cc/automake-1.17.90/t/instspc.dir
#[stderr]+ not am_keeping_testdirs
#[stderr]+ am_keeping_testdirs
#[stderr]+ case $keep_testdirs in
#[stderr]+ return 1
#[stderr]+ test 'not ok' = ok
#[stderr]+ : For shells with busted 'set -e.'
#[stderr]+ for test_name in $test_names_list
#[stderr]+ eval 'test_string=${instspc__percent}'
#[stderr]++ test_string=%
#[stderr]+ test x% = x
#[stderr]+ mkdir ./%
#[stderr]+ case $test_string in
#[stderr]+ for where in build dest
#[stderr]+ case $where in
#[stderr]+ build=./%
#[stderr]+ dest=/local/build/cc/automake-1.17.90/t/instspc.dir/dest-percent
#[stderr]+ cd ./%
#[stderr]+ r=ok
#[stderr]+ ../configure --prefix /%-prefix
automake-patches@HIDDEN:bug#72536; Package automake-patches.
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I have some minor follow-up commits, attached:
Looks good to me. Pushed. Thanks again, Richard. -k
automake-patches@HIDDEN:bug#72536; Package automake-patches.
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Hi Richard - here's my tinkering with the description in the manual
(pushed). Let me know if you see any problems.
Meanwhile, I guess we can close this. If anything more is pending from
your side, let me know or feel free to re-open. Thanks again. -k
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
doc: move most --stderr-prefix doc to a new subsubsection.
Still in https://bugs.gnu.org/72536.
* doc/automake.texi (TAP setup and examples):
(TAP stderr examples),
TAP stderr prefixing): split TAP examples
into new subsubsections. Add discussion of race condition and
other reordering from the open bug.
* NEWS: mention --stderr-prefix.
diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
index 34876f3db..26b433314 100644
--- a/NEWS
+++ b/NEWS
@@ -6,6 +6,9 @@ New in 1.x:
* New features added
+ - New option --stderr-prefix for tap-driver.sh, to prefix each line of
+ stderr from a test script with a given string. (bug#72536)
+
- Support for Algol 68 added, based on the GNU Algol 68 compiler. (bug#75807)
- New option dist-bzip3 for bzip3 compression of distributions. (bug#73795)
@@ -18,6 +21,9 @@ New in 1.x:
- Avoid Perl 5.41.8+ precedence warning for use of !!.
(https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2025-01/msg00000.html)
+ - a Perl path containing whitespace now emits a warning instead of
+ an error, so ./configure PERL='/usr/bin/env perl' can work. (bug#74453)
+
- The py-compile script once again does nothing (successfully) if the
PYTHON environment variable is set to ":", or anything that isn't a
Python interpreter (according to $PYTHON -V). Exception: if PYTHON
diff --git a/doc/automake.texi b/doc/automake.texi
index 9fa94689f..bb66aea5c 100644
--- a/doc/automake.texi
+++ b/doc/automake.texi
@@ -10516,6 +10516,7 @@ with the @samp{#} character) in the testsuite progress output too; by
default, TAP diagnostics are only copied to the @file{.log} file.
@item --no-comments
Revert the effects of @option{--comments}.
+
@item --merge
Instruct the test driver to merge the test scripts' standard error into
their standard output. This is necessary if you want to ensure that
@@ -10526,8 +10527,10 @@ tracing active). As a downside, this option might cause the test
harness to get confused if anything that appears on standard error
looks like a test result. Use @option{--stderr-prefix} to prefix each
line of standard error to avoid this problem.
+
@item --no-merge
Revert the effects of @option{--merge}.
+
@item --stderr-prefix @var{STRING}
Prefix each line of the test script's standard error with
@code{@var{STRING}}. Defaults to the empty string. This option makes
@@ -10549,39 +10552,13 @@ literal characters @samp{@@%:@@} in the prefix (@samp{@@%@@&t@@:@@}, for
example).
@end table
-For example, in shell, @samp{--stderr-prefix "@@%:@@[stderr] "} will
-prefix each line of the test script's standard error with
-@samp{#[stderr] }.
-
-When prefixing standard error lines, the test program's standard error
-lines can be processed out of order relative to the test program's
-standard output lines, even when @option{--merge} is used. This can be
-due to many factors, including:
-
-@itemize @bullet
-@item
-Output buffering in the test program: The test program might be
-accumulating output data and writing it to the operating system in
-batches, not as soon as it is available. You can try
-@uref{man:setvbuf(3),,setvbuf(3)} to change the buffering mode in the
-test program, or you can add regular flushes. OS-specific utilities to
-control buffering may be available, such as
-@uref{man:stdbuf(1),,stdbuf(1)} on GNU/Linux systems.
+For example, the option @samp{--stderr-prefix "@@%:@@[stderr] "}
+passed on the command line will prefix each line of the test script's
+standard error with @samp{#[stderr] }.
-@item
-Concurrent processing of standard output and standard error: Due to a
-limitation of the shell command language, the TAP driver processes
-standard output in a different thread or process than standard error.
-Thus, processing order is influenced by how the operating system
-schedules the two threads or processes for execution.
-
-@item
-Line-based processing: When prefixing standard error, the TAP driver
-waits until a complete line is read from the test program before
-processing the line. This reduces the chances that characters from a
-standard output line are mixed with characters from a standard error
-line.
-@end itemize
+For more details on @option{--stderr-prefix} processing, especially
+the occasional output reordering due to a race condition, @pxref{TAP
+prefixing stderr}.
@item --diagnostic-string @var{STRING}
Change the string that introduces TAP diagnostics from the default value
@@ -10596,7 +10573,18 @@ the ``official'' TAP protocol does not allow for such a customization; so
don't use it if you can avoid it.
@end table
-@noindent
+@menu
+* TAP setup and examples:: Setup and examples of TAP usage.
+* TAP stderr examples:: Examples of stderr issues and processing.
+* TAP prefixing stderr:: Details about @option{--stderr-prefix} processing.
+@end menu
+
+@node TAP setup and examples
+@subsubsection TAP setup and examples
+
+@cindex TAP setup, example of
+@cindex setting up TAP, example
+
Here is an example of how the TAP driver can be set up and used.
@c Keep in sync with tap-doc2.sh
@@ -10670,7 +10658,19 @@ PASS: baz.test 1
...
% @kbd{echo exit status: $?}
exit status: 0
+@end example
+@node TAP stderr examples
+@subsubsection TAP stderr examples
+
+@cindex TAP stderr example
+@cindex stderr example in TAP
+
+Here is a sequence of examples showing the issue with merging stdout
+and stderr, and the resolution with @option{--stderr-prefix}. Read
+the comments for specifics.
+
+@example
% @kbd{cat stderr-demo.test}
#!/bin/sh
echo 'ok 1'
@@ -10721,9 +10721,69 @@ PASS: stderr-demo.test 1
ok 2
PASS: stderr-demo.test 2
1..2
-
@end example
+@node TAP prefixing stderr
+@subsubsection TAP prefixing stderr
+
+@cindex TAP prefixing stderr
+@cindex prefixing stderr in TAP
+@cindex stderr prefixing in TAP
+@cindex race condition in stderr prefixing
+
+@c see https://bugs.gnu.org/72536 for this feature and discussion.
+
+When using the above @option{--stderr-prefix} TAP option, the test
+program's standard error lines might occasionally be processed out of
+order relative to the test program's standard output lines,
+particularly when @option{--merge} is also used. This can be due to
+many factors, including:
+
+@itemize @bullet
+@item
+Output buffering in the test program: The test program might be
+accumulating output data and writing it to the operating system in
+batches, not as soon as it is available. You can try setvbuf(3) to
+change the buffering mode in the test program, or you can add regular
+flushes. OS-specific utilities to control buffering may be available,
+such as stdbuf(1) on GNU/Linux systems.
+
+@item
+Concurrent processing of standard output and standard error: Due to a
+limitation of the shell command language, the TAP driver processes
+standard output in a different thread or process than standard error,
+causing a race condition. Thus, processing order is influenced by how
+the operating system schedules the two threads or processes for
+execution.
+
+@item
+Line-based processing: When prefixing standard error, the TAP driver
+waits until a complete line is read from the test program before
+processing the line. This reduces the chances that characters from a
+standard output line are mixed with characters from a standard error
+line.
+@end itemize
+
+Thus, stderr lines might appear out of order relative to stdout lines,
+even when @option{--merge} is passed. All stderr lines are still
+processed in order relative to other stderr lines, and the same goes
+for the stdout lines relative to other stdout lines. So the
+reordering shouldn't break a package's TAP tests, since there's no
+reason to output TAP commands to stderr; even more so when stderr
+lines are prefixed.
+
+When working on a particular test, if you find the reordering is
+causing trouble, you can omit @option{--stderr-prefix}, or run the
+test directly (not via TAP) to get a more accurate understanding of
+output timing.
+
+Overall, though, the order of processing (and logging) should not
+differ from the order of the test program's write(2) calls by much.
+Out-of-order processing only happens if the test program writes to
+stdout then stderr but the kernel wakes up the TAP driver's
+thread/process that is reading stderr before it wakes up the TAP
+driver's thread/process that is reading stdout, or vice versa.
+
@node Incompatibility with other TAP parsers and drivers
@subsection Incompatibility with other TAP parsers and drivers
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Hi Richard - here's my tinkering with the description in the manual
(pushed). Let me know if you see any problems.
Meanwhile, I guess we can close this. If anything more is pending from
your side, let me know or feel free to re-open. Thanks again. -k
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
doc: move most --stderr-prefix doc to a new subsubsection.
Still in https://bugs.gnu.org/72536.
* doc/automake.texi (TAP setup and examples):
(TAP stderr examples),
TAP stderr prefixing): split TAP examples
into new subsubsections. Add discussion of race condition and
other reordering from the open bug.
* NEWS: mention --stderr-prefix.
diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
index 34876f3db..26b433314 100644
--- a/NEWS
+++ b/NEWS
@@ -6,6 +6,9 @@ New in 1.x:
* New features added
+ - New option --stderr-prefix for tap-driver.sh, to prefix each line of
+ stderr from a test script with a given string. (bug#72536)
+
- Support for Algol 68 added, based on the GNU Algol 68 compiler. (bug#75807)
- New option dist-bzip3 for bzip3 compression of distributions. (bug#73795)
@@ -18,6 +21,9 @@ New in 1.x:
- Avoid Perl 5.41.8+ precedence warning for use of !!.
(https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2025-01/msg00000.html)
+ - a Perl path containing whitespace now emits a warning instead of
+ an error, so ./configure PERL='/usr/bin/env perl' can work. (bug#74453)
+
- The py-compile script once again does nothing (successfully) if the
PYTHON environment variable is set to ":", or anything that isn't a
Python interpreter (according to $PYTHON -V). Exception: if PYTHON
diff --git a/doc/automake.texi b/doc/automake.texi
index 9fa94689f..bb66aea5c 100644
--- a/doc/automake.texi
+++ b/doc/automake.texi
@@ -10516,6 +10516,7 @@ with the @samp{#} character) in the testsuite progress output too; by
default, TAP diagnostics are only copied to the @file{.log} file.
@item --no-comments
Revert the effects of @option{--comments}.
+
@item --merge
Instruct the test driver to merge the test scripts' standard error into
their standard output. This is necessary if you want to ensure that
@@ -10526,8 +10527,10 @@ tracing active). As a downside, this option might cause the test
harness to get confused if anything that appears on standard error
looks like a test result. Use @option{--stderr-prefix} to prefix each
line of standard error to avoid this problem.
+
@item --no-merge
Revert the effects of @option{--merge}.
+
@item --stderr-prefix @var{STRING}
Prefix each line of the test script's standard error with
@code{@var{STRING}}. Defaults to the empty string. This option makes
@@ -10549,39 +10552,13 @@ literal characters @samp{@@%:@@} in the prefix (@samp{@@%@@&t@@:@@}, for
example).
@end table
-For example, in shell, @samp{--stderr-prefix "@@%:@@[stderr] "} will
-prefix each line of the test script's standard error with
-@samp{#[stderr] }.
-
-When prefixing standard error lines, the test program's standard error
-lines can be processed out of order relative to the test program's
-standard output lines, even when @option{--merge} is used. This can be
-due to many factors, including:
-
-@itemize @bullet
-@item
-Output buffering in the test program: The test program might be
-accumulating output data and writing it to the operating system in
-batches, not as soon as it is available. You can try
-@uref{man:setvbuf(3),,setvbuf(3)} to change the buffering mode in the
-test program, or you can add regular flushes. OS-specific utilities to
-control buffering may be available, such as
-@uref{man:stdbuf(1),,stdbuf(1)} on GNU/Linux systems.
+For example, the option @samp{--stderr-prefix "@@%:@@[stderr] "}
+passed on the command line will prefix each line of the test script's
+standard error with @samp{#[stderr] }.
-@item
-Concurrent processing of standard output and standard error: Due to a
-limitation of the shell command language, the TAP driver processes
-standard output in a different thread or process than standard error.
-Thus, processing order is influenced by how the operating system
-schedules the two threads or processes for execution.
-
-@item
-Line-based processing: When prefixing standard error, the TAP driver
-waits until a complete line is read from the test program before
-processing the line. This reduces the chances that characters from a
-standard output line are mixed with characters from a standard error
-line.
-@end itemize
+For more details on @option{--stderr-prefix} processing, especially
+the occasional output reordering due to a race condition, @pxref{TAP
+prefixing stderr}.
@item --diagnostic-string @var{STRING}
Change the string that introduces TAP diagnostics from the default value
@@ -10596,7 +10573,18 @@ the ``official'' TAP protocol does not allow for such a customization; so
don't use it if you can avoid it.
@end table
-@noindent
+@menu
+* TAP setup and examples:: Setup and examples of TAP usage.
+* TAP stderr examples:: Examples of stderr issues and processing.
+* TAP prefixing stderr:: Details about @option{--stderr-prefix} processing.
+@end menu
+
+@node TAP setup and examples
+@subsubsection TAP setup and examples
+
+@cindex TAP setup, example of
+@cindex setting up TAP, example
+
Here is an example of how the TAP driver can be set up and used.
@c Keep in sync with tap-doc2.sh
@@ -10670,7 +10658,19 @@ PASS: baz.test 1
...
% @kbd{echo exit status: $?}
exit status: 0
+@end example
+@node TAP stderr examples
+@subsubsection TAP stderr examples
+
+@cindex TAP stderr example
+@cindex stderr example in TAP
+
+Here is a sequence of examples showing the issue with merging stdout
+and stderr, and the resolution with @option{--stderr-prefix}. Read
+the comments for specifics.
+
+@example
% @kbd{cat stderr-demo.test}
#!/bin/sh
echo 'ok 1'
@@ -10721,9 +10721,69 @@ PASS: stderr-demo.test 1
ok 2
PASS: stderr-demo.test 2
1..2
-
@end example
+@node TAP prefixing stderr
+@subsubsection TAP prefixing stderr
+
+@cindex TAP prefixing stderr
+@cindex prefixing stderr in TAP
+@cindex stderr prefixing in TAP
+@cindex race condition in stderr prefixing
+
+@c see https://bugs.gnu.org/72536 for this feature and discussion.
+
+When using the above @option{--stderr-prefix} TAP option, the test
+program's standard error lines might occasionally be processed out of
+order relative to the test program's standard output lines,
+particularly when @option{--merge} is also used. This can be due to
+many factors, including:
+
+@itemize @bullet
+@item
+Output buffering in the test program: The test program might be
+accumulating output data and writing it to the operating system in
+batches, not as soon as it is available. You can try setvbuf(3) to
+change the buffering mode in the test program, or you can add regular
+flushes. OS-specific utilities to control buffering may be available,
+such as stdbuf(1) on GNU/Linux systems.
+
+@item
+Concurrent processing of standard output and standard error: Due to a
+limitation of the shell command language, the TAP driver processes
+standard output in a different thread or process than standard error,
+causing a race condition. Thus, processing order is influenced by how
+the operating system schedules the two threads or processes for
+execution.
+
+@item
+Line-based processing: When prefixing standard error, the TAP driver
+waits until a complete line is read from the test program before
+processing the line. This reduces the chances that characters from a
+standard output line are mixed with characters from a standard error
+line.
+@end itemize
+
+Thus, stderr lines might appear out of order relative to stdout lines,
+even when @option{--merge} is passed. All stderr lines are still
+processed in order relative to other stderr lines, and the same goes
+for the stdout lines relative to other stdout lines. So the
+reordering shouldn't break a package's TAP tests, since there's no
+reason to output TAP commands to stderr; even more so when stderr
+lines are prefixed.
+
+When working on a particular test, if you find the reordering is
+causing trouble, you can omit @option{--stderr-prefix}, or run the
+test directly (not via TAP) to get a more accurate understanding of
+output timing.
+
+Overall, though, the order of processing (and logging) should not
+differ from the order of the test program's write(2) calls by much.
+Out-of-order processing only happens if the test program writes to
+stdout then stderr but the kernel wakes up the TAP driver's
+thread/process that is reading stderr before it wakes up the TAP
+driver's thread/process that is reading stdout, or vice versa.
+
@node Incompatibility with other TAP parsers and drivers
@subsection Incompatibility with other TAP parsers and drivers
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Hi Richard,
Attached is v4 of the patch series. Changes from v3:
I pushed it. Thanks!!
the only negative effect of the race condition
I adapted some of this text for the manual, since it was helpful at
least for me to gain some sort of understanding of what might happen and
when. Thanks for writing everything, both the patches and the email :),
in such detail.
I'm hoping most users won't care much about minor reordering;
I expect you are right.
I can make it an error to specify both --stderr-prefix and --merge
Let's release it as you wrote it and see what develops.
fdmux --mode=line "1:[stdout] %l" "2:[stderr] %l" -- foo arg
You could propose it to coreutils ... --thanks again, karl.
P.S. Jacob: thanks for the crazy hacks :). I'm content to leave them as
thought experiments :).
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The timestamp value that is added to a > line would depend on when the kernel woke up the reading > thread/process, so the timestamps wouldn't always accurately represent > the time the test program wrote the line. If the kernel woke up the > stderr and stdout threads in the opposite order of writing, then the > timestamps would be in the wrong order. Now we are getting into the "crazy hack" category, but how about an LD_PRELOAD module that gets put in the test process and wraps write(3) to add timestamps? On systems with GNU libc, that module could replace stdout and stderr with custom streams that prepend timestamps to the start of each line before calling write(2). For an even crazier (but even less portable) hack, I seem to recall that there is a way to attach a BPF program to a process as a syscall filter in current Linux kernels. Could we use *that* to wrap write(2) and add timestamps? :-) -- Jacob
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we would need to get high-precision timestamps from date(1)
Sounds like a nightmare :(. -k
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It's not practical to ship a C file and
compile that when the user runs the tests (right?).
Right. Also right that we don't want to induce a dependency on
perl/python/whatever for running tests.
(a) not piping stderr through the prefixing function when the prefix
is the empty string, and (b) avoiding stdout buffering when stderr
is prefixed.
Those sound desirable in any case. Especially the first.
It's highly desirable for existing behavior to remain the same, as much
as possible.
These changes might provide good enough results for most users.
I suppose so, since "most users" won't be using the stderr prefixing
since it's never been available before :).
I guess that would fix the problem with the existing
tap-merge-stdout-stderr test, since then there should be no change from
how it currently works.
But what about the new test you wrote? Isn't any test that a) outputs
to both stdout and stderr and b) uses the new merge prefix going to be
subject to the race condition?
Users that require stronger guarantees can wrap their test program
in a custom helper utility rather than rely on Automake's TAP driver
to do the prefixing and merging.
That feels like asking an awful lot of the users. If we have to resort
to that, it sounds like something we should show an example of. And
maybe use for the new test, if that's possible.
Overall, a change that creates a known race condition with no fix feels
bad to me. We can be sure that the people who run automake tests with -j
cranked up will be reporting it, and "there's no fix, just ignore the
failure" isn't an acceptable answer to automated build systems.
Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated.
Maybe the answer is for the new test to use --no-merge, or otherwise
avoid the race condition by outputting all of stdout and then all of
stderr (with the prefix). Which admittedly somewhat, though not
entirely, defeats the purpose of the new change, but we just can't have
a test that will randomly fail.
In practice, outside the Automake test suite, I would guess that your
alleviations above would often suffice, as you suggest. On the other
hand, inducing race conditions in a package's test just because it
happens to use the new merge prefixing doesn't seem desirable, even if
it would rarely be noticed.
Or am I misunderstanding? Wdyt? --thanks, karl.
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Hi Richard and Jacob,
rh> can switch to a separate email per commit if preferred.
No need. For most purposes, it's much more convenient to have one email
with the whole patch series than many individual messages. I'll save the
patches to separate files.
jb> I suspect that you are having problems with git-mailsplit
Never heard of it before, didn't come up in my searches. Makes sense
now. Thanks much. -k
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On 2/19/25 11:48, Karl Berry wrote:
> A separate question (for anyone), when we get that far ... what's the
> best way to apply/commit a patch series like this? Sorry for my lack of
> git-fu. When I run "git am mboxfile" after saving your msg in mboxfile,
> it applies fine, but then git log -n 1 -p shows that only the first
> Subject: is used, apparently losing the information you nicely put into
> all the other Subject:s.
A quick check of `git help log` suggests that you were asking `git log`
to only output one record. That it outputs the first Subject and not
the last suggests that git-am may have only applied one patch instead of
the whole series.
> Or will all the different subjects show up
> again when it's pushed, somehow?
No, a push exactly transfers your local history and branch tip.
> I did a bunch of searching without great results. Maybe I have to save
> each msg in a separate file and then apply the directory?
I seem to recall that that is what I have always had to do: one message
per file.
> Seems like that should not be necessary.
I suspect that you are having problems with git-mailsplit but I do not
know how to fix the issue.
-- Jacob
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">A separate question (for anyone), when we get that far ... what's the
best way to apply/commit a patch series like this? Sorry for my lack of
git-fu. When I run "git am mboxfile" after saving your msg in mboxfile,
it applies fine, but then git log -n 1 -p shows that only the first
Subject: is used, apparently losing the information you nicely put into
all the other Subject:s.</pre>
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<p>A quick check of `git help log` suggests that you were asking
`git log` to only output one record. That it outputs the first
Subject and not the last suggests that git-am may have only
applied one patch instead of the whole series.</p>
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre"> Or will all the different subjects show up
again when it's pushed, somehow?</pre>
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<p>No, a push exactly transfers your local history and branch tip.<span
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">I did a bunch of searching without great results. Maybe I have to save
each msg in a separate file and then apply the directory?</pre>
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<p>I seem to recall that that is what I have always had to do: one
message per file.</p>
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cite="mid:202502191748.51JHm2uC579488@HIDDEN">
<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre"> Seems like that should not be necessary.</pre>
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<p>I suspect that you are having problems with git-mailsplit but I
do not know how to fix the issue.</p>
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Hi Richard and all,
Attached is v3 of the patch series. Changes from v2:
Thanks so much for your careful work. I read through the changes and
nothing problematic jumped out at me.
(Trivial: I think it's conventional for us to use test instead of [,
even when we're assuming a modern shell. I'll tweak that after.)
However ... when I ran make check with the changes installed, the
tap-merge-stdout-stderr test failed. Did it succeed for you? Before I
delved into it, thought I'd check back. Below is the log I got. (I'm
running on Rocky Linux 9, x86_64-linux, though I doubt that matters.)
Thanks again,
Karl
am-test-lib.sh: Running from installcheck: no
am-test-lib.sh: Test Protocol: none
am-test-lib.sh: PATH = /u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/bin:/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/ax:.:/u/karl/bin:/l/bin:/u/texlive/karl/Master/bin/x86_64-linux:/usr/local/gnu/emacs-21.4r9/bin:/usr/local/gnu/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/r/tug/home/tubprod/svn/misc:/u/texlive/karl/Master/tlpkg/bin:/r/tug/home/karl/bin
++ pwd
/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.dir
+ fetch_tap_driver
+ AM_TAP_AWK=gawk
+ export AM_TAP_AWK
+ get_shell_script tap-driver.sh tap-driver
+ am_source=tap-driver.sh
+ am_target=tap-driver
+ test '!' -f tap-driver
+ test x = xyes
+ cp -f /u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/lib/tap-driver.sh tap-driver
+ sed 10q tap-driver
#! /bin/sh
# Copyright (C) 2011-2025 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option)
# any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+ unset am_target am_source
+ cat
+ . tap-setup.sh
++ test -f ../../bin/automake
++ test -f ../../runtest
++ test -d ../../t
++ test '!' -f Makefile.am
++ mv Makefile.am Makefile.am~
++ test -d ../tap-common-setup.dir
++ cp -fpR ../tap-common-setup.dir/Makefile ../tap-common-setup.dir/Makefile.am ../tap-common-setup.dir/Makefile.in ../tap-common-setup.dir/aclocal.m4 ../tap-common-setup.dir/compile ../tap-common-setup.dir/config.log ../tap-common-setup.dir/config.status ../tap-common-setup.dir/configure ../tap-common-setup.dir/configure.ac ../tap-common-setup.dir/depcomp ../tap-common-setup.dir/install-sh ../tap-common-setup.dir/missing .
++ fetch_tap_driver
++ AM_TAP_AWK=gawk
++ export AM_TAP_AWK
++ get_shell_script tap-driver.sh tap-driver
++ am_source=tap-driver.sh
++ am_target=tap-driver
++ test '!' -f tap-driver
++ rm -f tap-driver
++ test x = xyes
++ cp -f /u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/lib/tap-driver.sh tap-driver
++ sed 10q tap-driver
#! /bin/sh
# Copyright (C) 2011-2025 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option)
# any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
++ unset am_target am_source
++ test -f Makefile.am~
++ mv -f Makefile.am~ Makefile.am
++ echo 'TEST_LOG_DRIVER = $(srcdir)/tap-driver'
++ automake-1.17 --foreign -Werror -Wall Makefile
++ ./config.status Makefile
config.status: creating Makefile
++ :
+ cat
+ chmod a+x all.test
+ run_make -O check
+ am__make_redirect_stdout=no
+ am__make_redirect_stderr=no
+ am__make_redirect_stdall=no
+ am__make_flags=
+ am__make_rc_exp=0
+ am_make_rc=0
+ test 2 -gt 0
+ case $1 in
+ am__make_redirect_stdout=yes
+ shift
+ test 1 -gt 0
+ case $1 in
+ break
+ using_gmake
+ case $am__using_gmake in
+ make --version -v
+ grep GNU
GNU Make 4.4.1
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
+ am__using_gmake=yes
+ return 0
+ :
+ test x '!=' x
+ : exec make check
+ set +x
make[2]: *** [Makefile:492: test-suite.log] Error 1
make[1]: *** [Makefile:627: check-TESTS] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:823: check-am] Error 2
+ am_make_rc=2
+ test 2 -eq 253
+ test no = yes
+ test yes = yes
+ cat stdout
make check-TESTS
make[1]: Entering directory '/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.dir'
make[2]: Entering directory '/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.dir'
ERROR: all.test 2 # OUT-OF-ORDER (expecting 1)
ERROR: all.test 4 # OUT-OF-ORDER (expecting 2)
ERROR: all.test 1 # OUT-OF-ORDER (expecting 3)
ERROR: all.test 3 # OUT-OF-ORDER (expecting 4)
# all.test: foo foo foo
============================================================================
Testsuite summary for tap-common-setup 1.0
============================================================================
# TOTAL: 4
# PASS: 0
# SKIP: 0
# XFAIL: 0
# FAIL: 0
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 4
============================================================================
See ./test-suite.log for debugging.
============================================================================
make[2]: Leaving directory '/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.dir'
make[1]: Leaving directory '/u/karl/gnu/src/akarl/t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.dir'
+ test no = yes
+ case $am__make_rc_exp in
+ test 0 -ge 0
+ test 0 -le 255
+ test 2 -eq 0
+ return 1
+ am_exit_trap 1
+ exit_status=1
+ set +e
+ cd /u/karl/gnu/src/akarl
+ test none = tap
+ case $am_explicit_skips in
+ test 1 -eq 0
+ keep_testdirs=yes
+ am_keeping_testdirs
+ case $keep_testdirs in
+ return 0
+ set +x
FAIL t/tap-merge-stdout-stderr.sh (exit status: 1)
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Hi Richard,
Supposedly I have not appeared in copyright.list for Automake yet.
Ah, now I find you listed there. Yay! No need to do anything more on the
copyright front.
Attached is v3 of the patch series. Changes from v2:
Thanks much. Will review asap. --best, karl.
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Clear behavior is good. I like that better than > implicitly turning on --merge. > I like this idea, too. > [...] > > Instead, as a nod to practicality aka kludge, I wonder about replacing > the string "sharp" (or "octothorpe", or some such) in the argument with a #. > How about recognizing the Autoconf @%:@ quadrigraph for #? If need be, it could be escaped as @%@&t@:@ to get past the regular quadrigraph processing. -- Jacob
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How about `--stderr-prefix`?
...
I could make this option independent of `--merge` and always prefix each
line of the test script's stderr.
Sounds sensible to me. Clear behavior is good. I like that better than
implicitly turning on --merge.
I wonder if this should have a default prefix so that users
don't have to figure out how to pass `#`.
Hmm.
* `--stderr-prefix` by itself to prefix with the default of `# `
I haven't studied this, but I wonder about "#stderr# " as the default.
Maybe that's too verbose in practice.
* `--stderr-prefix custom-prefix` to prefix with `custom-prefix`
This would be a bit more complicated to implement because the script
would need a heuristic to determine whether the user passed a custom
prefix or not (such as, "there is an argument after `--stderr-prefix`
and that argument does not begin with `-`").
Optional argument heuristics don't sound ideal to me. tap-driver.sh
takes its final non-option argument, so if the new option ended up last,
there would be:
tap-driver.sh ... --stderr-prefix TEST-COMMAND
and nothing good would result. There's also the question of what to do
if the possibly-optional argument was "--". Let's just not go there.
Instead, as a nod to practicality aka kludge, I wonder about replacing
the string "sharp" (or "octothorpe", or some such) in the argument with a #.
difficult to portably add a `#` character to a
make variable, as you can see in the test I added.
Perusing your patch again, I see you used
printf %03o
to get around that. I hope that's portable in practice.
I wonder if automake actually works under EBCDIC. I wouldn't be
surprised if ASCII is assumed more or less throughout. Anyway, nice
defensive thinking there. :)
p.s. I requested a copyright assignment form.
Thanks much for all.
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automake-patches@HIDDEN:bug#72536; Package automake-patches.
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