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Greetings, the manual file in ASCII text format is filled with odd characte=
rs, and maybe this is a character conversion problem during the file genera=
tion.=0A=
In example, you can see the problem in the third line of the plain text man=
ual online=0A=
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https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/grep.txt=0A=
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I quote:=0A=
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2 Invoking =E2=80=98grep=E2=80=99=0A=
=0A=
It should be=0A=
=0A=
2 Invoking grep=0A=
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or=0A=
=0A=
2 Invoking 'grep'=0A=
=0A=
or something else. As far as I can see, the HTML format of the manual has t=
he word "grep" between <code> tags, and I guess the problem is or was somew=
hat related to that, in docbook2txt or gendocs.sh; I said "was" because may=
be just relaunching gendocs.sh will fix that, as the document was last upda=
ted May 13, 2023. Regards.=

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On 2025-03-14 02:22, Giacomo De Bello wrote:
> Greetings, the manual file in ASCII text format is filled with odd characters, and maybe this is a character conversion problem during the file generation.
> In example, you can see the problem in the third line of the plain text manual online
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/grep.txt

Unfortunately the Savannah web server responds with a header that lacks 
the line "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8", needed because this 
file uses UTF-8 encoding, not ASCII.

I attempted to fix the server bug by adding an .htaccess file like this:

   <Files ".txt">
     AddDefaultCharset utf-8
     ForceType text/plain
   </Files>

at grep's root, but no dice.

Although possibly I messed up the CVS commit (I never remember how to 
use CVS any more), Savannah is reeeeallly slow right now and I'm getting 
a "502 Bad Gateway" when I try to visit, for example, 
<http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/grep/> to try to debug this. So 
I'll cc this email to savannah-hackers to see whether they can fix the 
UTF-8 issue for me.

Thanks for the reporting the problem.

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On 2025-03-14 18:38, Paul Eggert wrote:=0A=
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> the Savannah web server responds with a header that lacks=0A=
> the line "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8", needed because=0A=
> this file uses UTF-8 encoding, not ASCII.=0A=
=0A=
Trying to be helpful, I found that Savannah migrated to "updated=0A=
systems" in November 2016, and the grep.txt page was OK before [2],=0A=
and problematic after [3] the upgrade.=0A=
Anyway, another project, alive [4], has a similar problem starting from=0A=
a day between May [5] and October [6] 2013.=0A=
But I'll stop here, to avoid noise and to go off topic.=0A=
=0A=
> Savannah is reeeeallly slow right now and I'm gettinga "502 Bad=0A=
> Gateway" when I try to visit, for example,=0A=
> <http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/grep/>=0A=
=0A=
Same here.=0A=
=0A=
> So I'll cc this email to savannah-hackers to see whether they can fix=0A=
> the UTF-8 issue for me.=0A=
=0A=
Same.=0A=
=0A=
> Thanks for the reporting the problem.=0A=
=0A=
Thanks for your efforts.=0A=
=0A=
[1] https://savannah.nongnu.org/news/?id=3D8710=0A=
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20151225120101/http://www.gnu.org/software/=
grep/manual/grep.txt=0A=
[3] https://web.archive.org/web/20161224123914/http://www.gnu.org/software/=
grep/manual/grep.txt=0A=
[4] http://www.gnu.org/software/alive/manual/alive.txt=0A=
[5] https://web.archive.org/web/20130517082946/http://www.gnu.org/software/=
alive/manual/alive.txt=0A=
[6] https://web.archive.org/web/20131010110923/http://www.gnu.org/software/=
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Greetings, the manual file in ASCII text format is filled with odd characte=
rs, and maybe this is a character conversion problem during the file genera=
tion.=0A=
In example, you can see the problem in the third line of the plain text man=
ual online=0A=
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https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/grep.txt=0A=
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I quote:=0A=
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2 Invoking =E2=80=98grep=E2=80=99=0A=
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It should be=0A=
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2 Invoking grep=0A=
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or=0A=
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2 Invoking 'grep'=0A=
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or something else. As far as I can see, the HTML format of the manual has t=
he word "grep" between <code> tags, and I guess the problem is or was somew=
hat related to that, in docbook2txt or gendocs.sh; I said "was" because may=
be just relaunching gendocs.sh will fix that, as the document was last upda=
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Thanks for the further investigation. I solved the problem for grep by 
installing the following patch, and am closing the bug report.

https://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/grep/grep/.htaccess?r1=1.1&r2=1.2

Presumably GNU project web pages should routinely have .htaccess files 
that say something like this:

   <Files "*.txt">
     AddDefaultCharset utf-8
     ForceType text/plain
   </Files>

as the old Windows-1252 default no longer makes sense. I'll take a look 
at doing this for the projects I help maintain.

Alternatively (and more efficiently) this could be addressed by changing 
the Apache configuration on Savannah; however, I lack admin access for that.




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Thanks for the further investigation. I solved the problem for grep by 
installing the following patch, and am closing the bug report.

https://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/grep/grep/.htaccess?r1=1.1&r2=1.2

Presumably GNU project web pages should routinely have .htaccess files 
that say something like this:

   <Files "*.txt">
     AddDefaultCharset utf-8
     ForceType text/plain
   </Files>

as the old Windows-1252 default no longer makes sense. I'll take a look 
at doing this for the projects I help maintain.

Alternatively (and more efficiently) this could be addressed by changing 
the Apache configuration on Savannah; however, I lack admin access for that.




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Greetings, the manual file in ASCII text format is filled with odd characte=
rs, and maybe this is a character conversion problem during the file genera=
tion.=0A=
In example, you can see the problem in the third line of the plain text man=
ual online=0A=
=0A=
https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/grep.txt=0A=
=0A=
I quote:=0A=
=0A=
2 Invoking =E2=80=98grep=E2=80=99=0A=
=0A=
It should be=0A=
=0A=
2 Invoking grep=0A=
=0A=
or=0A=
=0A=
2 Invoking 'grep'=0A=
=0A=
or something else. As far as I can see, the HTML format of the manual has t=
he word "grep" between <code> tags, and I guess the problem is or was somew=
hat related to that, in docbook2txt or gendocs.sh; I said "was" because may=
be just relaunching gendocs.sh will fix that, as the document was last upda=
ted May 13, 2023. Regards.=



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