X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable Resent-From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: monnier@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 18:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.77468.B.174361956920008 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: report 77468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.174361956920008 (code B ref -1); Wed, 02 Apr 2025 18:47:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2025 18:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59386 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u036D-0005CZ-HM for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:46:08 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:57556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u036A-0005Bz-QQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:46:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u0364-0001yb-Vj for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:45:56 -0400 Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u0363-0004hl-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:45:56 -0400 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janestreet.com; s=waixah; t=1743619553; bh=GhpXHkVn9esV+F1Aff4PM7KiJjQx5GI9xggaXMxgmMM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=YU7oRd+U4q573bfA56K+1MNz6aUXy69HZRljS0Koc2WUbwDACIOPOlY82i1NQdI5x I2otwSJh5CRjlEASuGXMyOHuo6sL/ai2fStNxLvxiL54lmiP/EZoEa2zKIXrpdzYnp P+e0HDBJT5lfehYYrcZLD+AO79qYwsTQeFd3Y7OEqTJYr6tqWcEFUGij6TsHWrBKku PfuLsHQiEqUS42Thw2FWFTV26UQBXshb4NgvRahXiT7DNWgdlx2arttoRMhf/6PhUP XyZgSNOfFGIYxIiOXzRXl8i/jRCd5gzHhiMgwK4n3ZQuNqD3Gq6H+fUunUTznxctM2 183zr/W6vFA1A== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.215.233.18; envelope-from=sbaugh@HIDDEN; helo=mxout5.mail.janestreet.com X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The package-quickstart file hardcodes various absolute file names. This means it can't be used in situations where the package directory might be at different absolute names at package-quickstart-refresh time and at usage time. For example: - network filesystems where the user's home directory has a different absolute name on different hosts - a system-wide package-directory-list entry which has a package-quickstart file generated for it at build time which has a different absolute name at install time (this is my use case; there are other problems with it, but the absolute names are the biggest one) I think we should make package-quickstart use file names which are relative to the location of the package-quickstart file itself. I'm happy to write the patch for this if that sounds reasonable.
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable Resent-From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.77468.B77468.174362366531849 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 77468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 77468-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B77468.174362366531849 (code B ref 77468); Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2025 19:54:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u04AK-0008HY-Mh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:25 -0400 Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]:50323) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u04AH-0008HJ-T8 for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:22 -0400 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:48:12 -0400") References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:16 -0400 Message-ID: <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janestreet.com; s=waixah; t=1743623656; bh=DdN98qlxzZ5f7vOR/x/Nb6MIcPDjH0UUOxdFfUVsB6c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=cEvgyhdeJKYwV7cC4Rfbbcfzkvu5Zuw5WSLNz7G4aZ2kRJHhRBZRkCrKY6X2bMSHt 8sZuDmx0k4+eM/oPFRyAKROKkyQUmy8VXsr22kG4/+TZ/HZLD/NVwi2LHbHrgcw/QI 8cflGomoNQDid61NbXVk3ur0jIGF6ic5RkZ4zOHOPheZqHUtTxJcGKb94DiiO5vCGH bxLDATNNhSeGb1dL+Pj3izumb2hIe6RjkDAvSnpAQGz0hTRaF7Gmn5W9Av5mDhpJVo qcpO157NRq2fbgPK9x7SBQZq6eBq/j/yI5nhQcopyy27nafs6ZOkMqDinGJZES8dm9 usSVrABkr0zKQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >> I think we should make package-quickstart use file names which are >> relative to the location of the package-quickstart file itself. > > It would probably slow down startup a little bit since > `package-quickstart.el` (PQ) would need to `expand-file-name` every time > it binds `load-file-name`, but yes I think it would be a good change. > > There is still the problem that the relative file names may themselves > break when your `package-directory-list` has directories that are > outside of the home directory. > > Actually, now that I think about it, the change you suggest would break > one of my use cases (where my packages are always at the same place, > outside of $HOME, but $HOME does move). Oh, right. I didn't think of the case where package-quickstart.el refers to packages outside the directory it lives in. I definitely don't think package-quickstart.el should use relative names to those packages - that would be quite weird - and I do expect it would break some use cases. Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and absolute names to packages outside that? That would also fix my issue and I'd be happy to implement it.
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable Resent-From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 21:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.77468.B77468.174362895115175 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 77468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 77468-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B77468.174362895115175 (code B ref 77468); Wed, 02 Apr 2025 21:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2025 21:22:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u05Xb-0003wg-7w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:22:31 -0400 Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]:53905) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u05XX-0003wR-V5 for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:22:28 -0400 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <jwva58yz55u.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:38 -0400") References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwva58yz55u.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:22:22 -0400 Message-ID: <ier5xjm2r8x.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janestreet.com; s=waixah; t=1743628942; bh=QFqrwc63gd++ZHr5PTR72DH/gg7cymWrBc9F+OKQ2eI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=0WBkIcyMUjB+3v8eed/DfCPPgjsHxWWuydlwNpFeSMeSNHKExIsPyzZGQwsiEe1d5 xYbdsEpu+8VcVCqk74Idp+T3/PMJb7fzcgIXj9HyvpTX9DR89BDlJIOct7TpVMfwho /m3rbe0bsqhsR54/9+c+OZoz0O9wnNTZaHYHtbTxjEtku9P/4HrL7qums+fSpuRzgt R/Wv8ymgm/b1Tj0C6wxg7SQoXIBTgJcvUbcreQlxDUCBvyG7MmSlXpUYoXAJQ+8RLr j4rlexfItRcF9YGKNqhHSQ/P/pTL3RevIT7voIk+5VSxiKHslo0WwHe88/PlIR/o+D 6K2/a5eKk5H6Q== X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >> Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in >> package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and >> absolute names to packages outside that? > > Sounds OK. Tho maybe we should check `file*-in-directory-p` (or the > presence of "../" in the output of `file-relative-name`) rather than > distinguishing based on `package-user-dir` vs `package-directory-list`? > > In any case, it sounds like a good compromise. Makes sense. How about this? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Use-relative-names-where-possible-in-package-quickst.patch From 7f465bee1605e0687f4f7713bcfeb9ac39b28355 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:21:24 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Use relative names where possible in package-quickstart.el package-quickstart.el hardcodes many absolute file names, which makes it break if user-emacs-directory moves, or in other situations. To be slightly more robust to this, use relative file names to packages that are located in the same directory as package-quickstart.el. * lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package--quickstart-relative): Add. (package-quickstart-refresh): Use package--quickstart-relative on file names. (bug#77468) --- lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 18 +++++++++++++++--- 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el index b9a8dacab15..1269a9c95e7 100644 --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el @@ -4591,6 +4591,14 @@ package--quickstart-maybe-refresh (delete-file (concat package-quickstart-file "c")) (delete-file package-quickstart-file))) +(defun package--quickstart-relative (load-name file) + "Return an expression which evaluates to FILE while loading LOAD-NAME." + (let* ((dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name load-name))) + (relname (file-relative-name file dir))) + (if (string-prefix-p ".." relname) + file + `(file-name-concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) ,relname)))) + (defun package-quickstart-refresh () "(Re)Generate the `package-quickstart-file'." (interactive) @@ -4605,7 +4613,8 @@ package-quickstart-refresh ;; aren't truncated. (print-length nil) (print-level nil) - (Info-directory-list '(""))) + (Info-directory-list '("")) + (qs-dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name package-quickstart-file)))) (dolist (elt package-alist) (condition-case err (package-activate (car elt)) @@ -4622,7 +4631,7 @@ package-quickstart-refresh ;; Prefer uncompiled files (and don't accept .so files). (let ((load-suffixes '(".el" ".elc"))) (locate-library (package--autoloads-file-name pkg)))) - (pfile (prin1-to-string file))) + (pfile (prin1-to-string (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file file)))) (insert "(let* ((load-file-name " pfile ")\ \(load-true-file-name load-file-name))\n") (insert-file-contents file) @@ -4638,7 +4647,10 @@ package-quickstart-refresh (append ',(mapcar #'package-desc-name package--quickstart-pkgs) package-activated-list))) (current-buffer)) - (let ((info-dirs (butlast Info-directory-list))) + (let ((info-dirs + (mapcar (lambda (info-dir) + (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file info-dir)) + (butlast Info-directory-list)))) (when info-dirs (pp `(progn (require 'info) (info-initialize) -- 2.39.3 --=-=-=--
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How about this? See comments below. > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > index b9a8dacab15..1269a9c95e7 100644 > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > @@ -4591,6 +4591,14 @@ package--quickstart-maybe-refresh > (delete-file (concat package-quickstart-file "c")) > (delete-file package-quickstart-file))) > > +(defun package--quickstart-relative (load-name file) > + "Return an expression which evaluates to FILE while loading LOAD-NAME." > + (let* ((dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name load-name))) > + (relname (file-relative-name file dir))) > + (if (string-prefix-p ".." relname) > + file > + `(file-name-concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) ,relname)))) I think I'd test "../" just in case of dirnames that start with "..". Also, could we compute (file-name-directory load-file-name) once at the beginning of the quickstart file instead of once per inlined file? > (defun package-quickstart-refresh () > "(Re)Generate the `package-quickstart-file'." > (interactive) > @@ -4605,7 +4613,8 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > ;; aren't truncated. > (print-length nil) > (print-level nil) > - (Info-directory-list '(""))) > + (Info-directory-list '("")) > + (qs-dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name package-quickstart-file)))) AFAICT `qs-dir` is not used. > @@ -4622,7 +4631,7 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > ;; Prefer uncompiled files (and don't accept .so files). > (let ((load-suffixes '(".el" ".elc"))) > (locate-library (package--autoloads-file-name pkg)))) > - (pfile (prin1-to-string file))) > + (pfile (prin1-to-string (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file file)))) > (insert "(let* ((load-file-name " pfile ")\ > \(load-true-file-name load-file-name))\n") > (insert-file-contents file) I think this needs wrapping to fit within 80 columns. > @@ -4638,7 +4647,10 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > (append ',(mapcar #'package-desc-name package--quickstart-pkgs) > package-activated-list))) > (current-buffer)) > - (let ((info-dirs (butlast Info-directory-list))) > + (let ((info-dirs > + (mapcar (lambda (info-dir) > + (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file info-dir)) > + (butlast Info-directory-list)))) > (when info-dirs > (pp `(progn (require 'info) > (info-initialize) I think this won't work because the rest of the code does: (setq Info-directory-list (append ',info-dirs Info-directory-list))) so the `file-name-concat`s won't be evaluated. Stefan
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.77468.B77468.174365740923449 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 77468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Cc: monnier@HIDDEN, 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 77468-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B77468.174365740923449 (code B ref 77468); Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2025 05:16:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u0Cwb-000669-1D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u0CwZ-00065r-0u for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u0CwS-0002cK-3p; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=aRFI4wc42etx1Xq8j0U16V46rOnnn2RLS4yOE2AeF2Y=; b=MtdvshL+o+9y p3fc5bxsJ/XE9hWLRZu6axezXVdTQbDYo3peQdZDY188yWxc+7D7yqjq+YihYeGPSSmyf4zTI4g7M 7tYFivjWXJaYmnOeFbuo1FKNGsTQpDPy5LGQWGxzNiOnqB+55s1EiQkOiG3HEM8LBKngPj+SboS0i jVMb/yuGbB1Wc9ILa9U+wtISk9avXd6H2pR8o1CEmy0DzwXauMZAdbIos0GV5upkAsvav6yHQHT+D q+0vdOcaB4QjmbF5nVVP2kvRKjswUgnepZN8UK+7L1ypL6CYJPiUaY+q3gwYhYNneJJmrfRDsBqAS iqGNAKLirkYrPx1J9TC74w==; Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:16:37 +0300 Message-Id: <861pu925ai.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <ier5xjm2r8x.fsf@HIDDEN> (bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN) References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwva58yz55u.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier5xjm2r8x.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:22:22 -0400 > From: Spencer Baugh via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in > >> package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and > >> absolute names to packages outside that? > > > > Sounds OK. Tho maybe we should check `file*-in-directory-p` (or the > > presence of "../" in the output of `file-relative-name`) rather than > > distinguishing based on `package-user-dir` vs `package-directory-list`? > > > > In any case, it sounds like a good compromise. > > Makes sense. How about this? Thanks, but please always remember to comment such non-trivial code, explaining its purpose and the problems it attempts to solve. Otherwise we make Emacs much harder to maintain for those who come after us.
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