Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2025 05:16:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 03 01:16:49 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u0Cwb-000669-1D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u0CwZ-00065r-0u for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1u0CwS-0002cK-3p; Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:16:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=aRFI4wc42etx1Xq8j0U16V46rOnnn2RLS4yOE2AeF2Y=; b=MtdvshL+o+9y p3fc5bxsJ/XE9hWLRZu6axezXVdTQbDYo3peQdZDY188yWxc+7D7yqjq+YihYeGPSSmyf4zTI4g7M 7tYFivjWXJaYmnOeFbuo1FKNGsTQpDPy5LGQWGxzNiOnqB+55s1EiQkOiG3HEM8LBKngPj+SboS0i jVMb/yuGbB1Wc9ILa9U+wtISk9avXd6H2pR8o1CEmy0DzwXauMZAdbIos0GV5upkAsvav6yHQHT+D q+0vdOcaB4QjmbF5nVVP2kvRKjswUgnepZN8UK+7L1ypL6CYJPiUaY+q3gwYhYNneJJmrfRDsBqAS iqGNAKLirkYrPx1J9TC74w==; Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:16:37 +0300 Message-Id: <861pu925ai.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <ier5xjm2r8x.fsf@HIDDEN> (bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN) Subject: Re: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwva58yz55u.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier5xjm2r8x.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77468 Cc: monnier@HIDDEN, 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 17:22:22 -0400 > From: Spencer Baugh via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > > Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in > >> package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and > >> absolute names to packages outside that? > > > > Sounds OK. Tho maybe we should check `file*-in-directory-p` (or the > > presence of "../" in the output of `file-relative-name`) rather than > > distinguishing based on `package-user-dir` vs `package-directory-list`? > > > > In any case, it sounds like a good compromise. > > Makes sense. How about this? Thanks, but please always remember to comment such non-trivial code, explaining its purpose and the problems it attempts to solve. Otherwise we make Emacs much harder to maintain for those who come after us.
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How about this? See comments below. > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > index b9a8dacab15..1269a9c95e7 100644 > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el > @@ -4591,6 +4591,14 @@ package--quickstart-maybe-refresh > (delete-file (concat package-quickstart-file "c")) > (delete-file package-quickstart-file))) > > +(defun package--quickstart-relative (load-name file) > + "Return an expression which evaluates to FILE while loading LOAD-NAME." > + (let* ((dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name load-name))) > + (relname (file-relative-name file dir))) > + (if (string-prefix-p ".." relname) > + file > + `(file-name-concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) ,relname)))) I think I'd test "../" just in case of dirnames that start with "..". Also, could we compute (file-name-directory load-file-name) once at the beginning of the quickstart file instead of once per inlined file? > (defun package-quickstart-refresh () > "(Re)Generate the `package-quickstart-file'." > (interactive) > @@ -4605,7 +4613,8 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > ;; aren't truncated. > (print-length nil) > (print-level nil) > - (Info-directory-list '(""))) > + (Info-directory-list '("")) > + (qs-dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name package-quickstart-file)))) AFAICT `qs-dir` is not used. > @@ -4622,7 +4631,7 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > ;; Prefer uncompiled files (and don't accept .so files). > (let ((load-suffixes '(".el" ".elc"))) > (locate-library (package--autoloads-file-name pkg)))) > - (pfile (prin1-to-string file))) > + (pfile (prin1-to-string (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file file)))) > (insert "(let* ((load-file-name " pfile ")\ > \(load-true-file-name load-file-name))\n") > (insert-file-contents file) I think this needs wrapping to fit within 80 columns. > @@ -4638,7 +4647,10 @@ package-quickstart-refresh > (append ',(mapcar #'package-desc-name package--quickstart-pkgs) > package-activated-list))) > (current-buffer)) > - (let ((info-dirs (butlast Info-directory-list))) > + (let ((info-dirs > + (mapcar (lambda (info-dir) > + (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file info-dir)) > + (butlast Info-directory-list)))) > (when info-dirs > (pp `(progn (require 'info) > (info-initialize) I think this won't work because the rest of the code does: (setq Info-directory-list (append ',info-dirs Info-directory-list))) so the `file-name-concat`s won't be evaluated. 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Tho maybe we should check `file*-in-directory-p` (or the > presence of "../" in the output of `file-relative-name`) rather than > distinguishing based on `package-user-dir` vs `package-directory-list`? > > In any case, it sounds like a good compromise. Makes sense. How about this? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Use-relative-names-where-possible-in-package-quickst.patch From 7f465bee1605e0687f4f7713bcfeb9ac39b28355 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:21:24 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Use relative names where possible in package-quickstart.el package-quickstart.el hardcodes many absolute file names, which makes it break if user-emacs-directory moves, or in other situations. To be slightly more robust to this, use relative file names to packages that are located in the same directory as package-quickstart.el. * lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el (package--quickstart-relative): Add. (package-quickstart-refresh): Use package--quickstart-relative on file names. (bug#77468) --- lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el | 18 +++++++++++++++--- 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el index b9a8dacab15..1269a9c95e7 100644 --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el @@ -4591,6 +4591,14 @@ package--quickstart-maybe-refresh (delete-file (concat package-quickstart-file "c")) (delete-file package-quickstart-file))) +(defun package--quickstart-relative (load-name file) + "Return an expression which evaluates to FILE while loading LOAD-NAME." + (let* ((dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name load-name))) + (relname (file-relative-name file dir))) + (if (string-prefix-p ".." relname) + file + `(file-name-concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) ,relname)))) + (defun package-quickstart-refresh () "(Re)Generate the `package-quickstart-file'." (interactive) @@ -4605,7 +4613,8 @@ package-quickstart-refresh ;; aren't truncated. (print-length nil) (print-level nil) - (Info-directory-list '(""))) + (Info-directory-list '("")) + (qs-dir (file-name-directory (expand-file-name package-quickstart-file)))) (dolist (elt package-alist) (condition-case err (package-activate (car elt)) @@ -4622,7 +4631,7 @@ package-quickstart-refresh ;; Prefer uncompiled files (and don't accept .so files). (let ((load-suffixes '(".el" ".elc"))) (locate-library (package--autoloads-file-name pkg)))) - (pfile (prin1-to-string file))) + (pfile (prin1-to-string (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file file)))) (insert "(let* ((load-file-name " pfile ")\ \(load-true-file-name load-file-name))\n") (insert-file-contents file) @@ -4638,7 +4647,10 @@ package-quickstart-refresh (append ',(mapcar #'package-desc-name package--quickstart-pkgs) package-activated-list))) (current-buffer)) - (let ((info-dirs (butlast Info-directory-list))) + (let ((info-dirs + (mapcar (lambda (info-dir) + (package--quickstart-relative package-quickstart-file info-dir)) + (butlast Info-directory-list)))) (when info-dirs (pp `(progn (require 'info) (info-initialize) -- 2.39.3 --=-=-=--
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Full text available.Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2025 20:24:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 02 16:24:48 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59686 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u04dk-0001GZ-H0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:48 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:10489) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <monnier@HIDDEN>) id 1u04di-0001GC-6V for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:46 -0400 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7BDFC10004C; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:24:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1743625478; bh=X0tnMWzarrjaNms4aFpCCT0TA1eWozfb5JkaZvOua/Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=VFcd7yuQblQpxksDPizQEWfqB/bT/FksqREqVKk27dLS0Vpmp5TdNXoCFtrNmhXQr z5PvrBOGppkrGUCROqWd2xT6X98i+bVYmKfEKV9+FBs8hY/kOqMGtvmkgFRhelhXb+ 5EMzZ69jzZNCZ5ZPPNTlzgUvWx1+BSPPyaF254spMJVsF47447s9wZ9vSGqC7YW0N1 46XC0hb/MH5O4/ch1Y8FD93C31BPPFLU7joOXZUDAVVbvGU8zg93a1V1SWZvIPTpsR CMU4v9ma20umDczwUFDUZ2iU+BUtaOszjTczANr4/7Ng0h23WGJEMK6C/XgLz/w9+I vo0BjrB6gzidg== Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B08DA100029; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0C4B1203A5; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable In-Reply-To: <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <jwva58yz55u.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:38 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.105 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77468 Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in > package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and > absolute names to packages outside that? Sounds OK. Tho maybe we should check `file*-in-directory-p` (or the presence of "../" in the output of `file-relative-name`) rather than distinguishing based on `package-user-dir` vs `package-directory-list`? In any case, it sounds like a good compromise. Stefan
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Full text available.Received: (at 77468) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2025 19:54:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 02 15:54:25 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u04AK-0008HY-Mh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:25 -0400 Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]:50323) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <sbaugh@HIDDEN>) id 1u04AH-0008HJ-T8 for 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:22 -0400 From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77468: 30.1.50; package-quickstart file is not relocatable In-Reply-To: <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:48:12 -0400") References: <ieriknmtna6.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvldsiz77w.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 15:54:16 -0400 Message-ID: <ier8qoi2vbr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=janestreet.com; s=waixah; t=1743623656; bh=DdN98qlxzZ5f7vOR/x/Nb6MIcPDjH0UUOxdFfUVsB6c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=cEvgyhdeJKYwV7cC4Rfbbcfzkvu5Zuw5WSLNz7G4aZ2kRJHhRBZRkCrKY6X2bMSHt 8sZuDmx0k4+eM/oPFRyAKROKkyQUmy8VXsr22kG4/+TZ/HZLD/NVwi2LHbHrgcw/QI 8cflGomoNQDid61NbXVk3ur0jIGF6ic5RkZ4zOHOPheZqHUtTxJcGKb94DiiO5vCGH bxLDATNNhSeGb1dL+Pj3izumb2hIe6RjkDAvSnpAQGz0hTRaF7Gmn5W9Av5mDhpJVo qcpO157NRq2fbgPK9x7SBQZq6eBq/j/yI5nhQcopyy27nafs6ZOkMqDinGJZES8dm9 usSVrABkr0zKQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77468 Cc: 77468 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes: >> I think we should make package-quickstart use file names which are >> relative to the location of the package-quickstart file itself. > > It would probably slow down startup a little bit since > `package-quickstart.el` (PQ) would need to `expand-file-name` every time > it binds `load-file-name`, but yes I think it would be a good change. > > There is still the problem that the relative file names may themselves > break when your `package-directory-list` has directories that are > outside of the home directory. > > Actually, now that I think about it, the change you suggest would break > one of my use cases (where my packages are always at the same place, > outside of $HOME, but $HOME does move). Oh, right. I didn't think of the case where package-quickstart.el refers to packages outside the directory it lives in. I definitely don't think package-quickstart.el should use relative names to those packages - that would be quite weird - and I do expect it would break some use cases. Maybe package-quickstart.el could use relative names to packages in package-user-dir (since it itself lives in package-user-dir), and absolute names to packages outside that? That would also fix my issue and I'd be happy to implement it.
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