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What is the purpose of adding these to what we distribute?
It looks like some sort of cenorship system.
We should not blindly support this. It is a political question
and calls for thought. First we need to more about the situation.
Do you know what's going on here? If so, can you please
explain it?
Who wants to include these things, and what reason does perse give?
What consequences would result from our including these things?
What consequences would result from our not including these things?
I also object to using the term "content" to refer to text,
which was adopted as the basis for censorship.
* etc/emacs.metainfo.xml: Add a <content_rating/> section.
---
etc/emacs.metainfo.xml | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 22 insertions(+)
diff --git a/etc/emacs.metainfo.xml b/etc/emacs.metainfo.xml
index ad29940a5c3..8414e9ac6ba 100644
--- a/etc/emacs.metainfo.xml
+++ b/etc/emacs.metainfo.xml
@@ -59,6 +59,28 @@
<caption>Editing a Lisp program, whilst viewing the manual</caption>
</screenshot>
</screenshots>
+
+ <!-- https://hughsie.github.io/oars/generate.html -->
+ <content_rating type="oars-1.1">
+ <!-- M-x doctor -->
+ <content_attribute id="violence-fantasy">moderate</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="violence-sexual">intense</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="drugs-alcohol">mild</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="drugs-narcotics">mild</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="sex-themes">moderate</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="language-profanity">intense</content_attribute>
+
+ <!-- etc/JOKES -->
+ <content_attribute id="language-humor">mild</content_attribute>
+ <content_attribute id="sex-nudity">mild</content_attribute>
+
+ <!-- Gnus, rirc, etc. -->
+ <content_attribute id="social-chat">intense</content_attribute>
+
+ <!-- M-x report-emacs-bug -->
+ <content_attribute id="social-info">intense</content_attribute>
+ </content_rating>
+
<update_contact>emacs-devel_AT_gnu.org</update_contact>
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<color type="primary" scheme_preference="light">#7f5ab6</color>
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 39e59724597333ab50601f6fb8f48a2d; Mon, 21 Apr 2025 12:00:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77492: AppStream metadata updates In-Reply-To: <a05651d7-a875-c228-ac17-26b6c5d9bcc8@HIDDEN> References: <cb91fe40-f003-6b50-f030-8d823bd59699@HIDDEN> <jwvwmbgci40.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <a05651d7-a875-c228-ac17-26b6c5d9bcc8@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 20:00:44 +0800 Message-ID: <87r01l3es3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.23665 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 519 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77492 Cc: 77492 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@HIDDEN> writes: > Still, I guess there=E2=80=99s a question about whether this stuff still > belongs in Emacs. The contents of etc/JOKES appears to pre-date the > existence of the world wide web; I don=E2=80=99t think we=E2=80=99d consi= der adding > anything like this today. As for doctor.el, ELPA might be a better > home. etc/JOKES appears harmless. Please don't let's move doctor.el to ELPA; bowdlerizing it I can personally accept, but you will meet with objections elsewhere.
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Likewise. I will have to contend with the consequences at my organization when Emacs 31.1 is released and someone inevitably notices these updated content ratings, which experience I am NOT anticipating eagerly...
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> + <!-- https://hughsie.github.io/oars/generate.html -->
> + <content_rating type="oars-1.1">
> + <!-- M-x doctor -->
> + <content_attribute id="violence-fantasy">moderate</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="violence-sexual">intense</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="drugs-alcohol">mild</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="drugs-narcotics">mild</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="sex-themes">moderate</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="language-profanity">intense</content_attribute>
> +
> + <!-- etc/JOKES -->
> + <content_attribute id="language-humor">mild</content_attribute>
> + <content_attribute id="sex-nudity">mild</content_attribute>
> +
> + <!-- Gnus, rirc, etc. -->
> + <content_attribute id="social-chat">intense</content_attribute>
> +
> + <!-- M-x report-emacs-bug -->
> + <content_attribute id="social-info">intense</content_attribute>
> + </content_rating>
I find this quite funny, but I'm genuinely curious how `M-x doctor`
ended up with
<content_attribute id="violence-sexual">intense</content_attribute>
Looks like I haven't pushed my psychoanalyst hard enough.
Stefan
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#77492; Package emacs.
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Peter Oliver <p.d.oliver@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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