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There are many project commands that represent their global counterparts
with the prefix 'project-' added to their command names like
'project-find-file' and 'find-file'.

However, there is one new command that doesn't correspond to its global sibling:
'project-find-matching-file' has no binding, so every time I have to manually
type its name, and after unsuccessfully trying 'M-x project-find-sibling-file'
I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command,
because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'.

Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to 'project-find-sibling-file'.

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Hi!

On 03/04/2025 20:45, Juri Linkov wrote:
> There are many project commands that represent their global counterparts
> with the prefix 'project-' added to their command names like
> 'project-find-file' and 'find-file'.
> 
> However, there is one new command that doesn't correspond to its global sibling:
> 'project-find-matching-file' has no binding, so every time I have to manually

Not sure if the current name is ideal, certainly.

> type its name, and after unsuccessfully trying 'M-x project-find-sibling-file'
> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command,
> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'.
> 
> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to 'project-find-sibling-file'.

But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for 
files named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same 
directory, or nearby directories. Often with different contents.

Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with 
equal relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two 
distinct directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from 
'find-sibling-name'.

FWIW, originally I was thinking to call it 'project-find-same-file'.

Anyway, opinions welcome.

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>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command,
>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'.
>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to
>> 'project-find-sibling-file'.
>
> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for files
> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or
> nearby directories. Often with different contents.
>
> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal
> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct
> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from
> 'find-sibling-name'.

From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules':

  In this example, if you’re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.el",
  and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it’s now
  defined as a sibling.

Looks very similar to the project command.

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=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B0=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=8D 04, 2025] Juri Linkov wrote:

>>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new com=
mand,
>>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-f=
ile'.
>>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to
>>> 'project-find-sibling-file'.
>>
>> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for fi=
les
>> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or
>> nearby directories. Often with different contents.
>>
>> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal
>> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct
>> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from
>> 'find-sibling-name'.
>
> From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules':
>
>   In this example, if you=E2=80=99re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.e=
l",
>   and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it=E2=80=99s now
>   defined as a sibling.
>
> Looks very similar to the project command.

It doesn't always have to be something like that though.  My sibling
rule maps

    XXX/something.com

to
    XXX/log/something.log, and XXX/something.log.

If I found a project-find-sibling-file command, I would expect it to
return the siblings of XXX/something.com that reside in the same project
as XXX/something.com, whereas project-find-matching-file does something
else entirely.

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close 77500 31.0.50
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>>>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command,
>>>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'.
>>>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to
>>>> 'project-find-sibling-file'.
>>>
>>> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for files
>>> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or
>>> nearby directories. Often with different contents.
>>>
>>> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal
>>> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct
>>> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from
>>> 'find-sibling-name'.
>>
>> From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules':
>>
>>   In this example, if you’re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.el",
>>   and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it’s now
>>   defined as a sibling.
>>
>> Looks very similar to the project command.
>
> It doesn't always have to be something like that though.  My sibling
> rule maps
>
>     XXX/something.com
>
> to
>     XXX/log/something.log, and XXX/something.log.
>
> If I found a project-find-sibling-file command, I would expect it to
> return the siblings of XXX/something.com that reside in the same project
> as XXX/something.com, whereas project-find-matching-file does something
> else entirely.

I agree that the sibling rules might differ significantly.
In case when the rule matches its sibling in another project,
it's like the project command, in other cases not.
Ok, I can add an alias in the init file.
So now closing this.

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close 77500 31.0.50
thanks

>>>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command,
>>>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'.
>>>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to
>>>> 'project-find-sibling-file'.
>>>
>>> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for files
>>> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or
>>> nearby directories. Often with different contents.
>>>
>>> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal
>>> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct
>>> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from
>>> 'find-sibling-name'.
>>
>> From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules':
>>
>>   In this example, if you’re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.el",
>>   and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it’s now
>>   defined as a sibling.
>>
>> Looks very similar to the project command.
>
> It doesn't always have to be something like that though.  My sibling
> rule maps
>
>     XXX/something.com
>
> to
>     XXX/log/something.log, and XXX/something.log.
>
> If I found a project-find-sibling-file command, I would expect it to
> return the siblings of XXX/something.com that reside in the same project
> as XXX/something.com, whereas project-find-matching-file does something
> else entirely.

I agree that the sibling rules might differ significantly.
In case when the rule matches its sibling in another project,
it's like the project command, in other cases not.
Ok, I can add an alias in the init file.
So now closing this.

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