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Full text available.Received: (at 77500) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2025 16:15:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 04 12:15:26 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1u0jhV-00006f-VF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2025 12:15:26 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]:48547) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1u0jhO-0008P1-K9; Fri, 04 Apr 2025 12:15:19 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36BBD44415; Fri, 4 Apr 2025 16:15:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Visuwesh <visuweshm@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#77500: project-find-sibling-file In-Reply-To: <87y0wgpaaj.fsf@HIDDEN> Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87mscx3zrm.fsf@HIDDEN> <64a5f933-c09c-4fa2-812b-f98f2a3e3d0e@HIDDEN> <874iz4a272.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y0wgpaaj.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:05:20 +0300 Message-ID: <87r028ynkd.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GND-State: clean X-GND-Score: -100 X-GND-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduleduledtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuifetpfffkfdpucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfevufgjohhffffkfgggtgfgsehtkeertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieffteejgeehffejuedtiefhudekgeejteekiefgveeuheetvdefgeekkeevkedunecukfhppeeluddruddvledruddthedruddujeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledruddthedruddujedphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrghgrnhguihdrnhgvthdpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeegpdhrtghpthhtoheptghonhhtrhholhesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopeejjeehtddtseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepughmihhtrhihsehguhhtohhvrdguvghvpdhrtghpthhtohepvhhishhufigvshhhmhesghhmrghilhdrtghomh X-GND-Sasl: juri@HIDDEN X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 77500 Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@HIDDEN>, 77500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 77500 31.0.50 thanks >>>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command, >>>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'. >>>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to >>>> 'project-find-sibling-file'. >>> >>> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for files >>> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or >>> nearby directories. Often with different contents. >>> >>> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal >>> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct >>> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from >>> 'find-sibling-name'. >> >> From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules': >> >> In this example, if you’re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.el", >> and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it’s now >> defined as a sibling. >> >> Looks very similar to the project command. > > It doesn't always have to be something like that though. My sibling > rule maps > > XXX/something.com > > to > XXX/log/something.log, and XXX/something.log. > > If I found a project-find-sibling-file command, I would expect it to > return the siblings of XXX/something.com that reside in the same project > as XXX/something.com, whereas project-find-matching-file does something > else entirely. I agree that the sibling rules might differ significantly. In case when the rule matches its sibling in another project, it's like the project command, in other cases not. Ok, I can add an alias in the init file. So now closing this.
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[=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B3=E0=AE=BF =E0=AE=8F=E0=AE=AA=
=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B0=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=8D 04, 2025] Juri Linkov wrote:
>>> I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new com=
mand,
>>> because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-f=
ile'.
>>> Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to
>>> 'project-find-sibling-file'.
>>
>> But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for fi=
les
>> named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or
>> nearby directories. Often with different contents.
>>
>> Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal
>> relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct
>> directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from
>> 'find-sibling-name'.
>
> From the docstring of 'find-sibling-rules':
>
> In this example, if you=E2=80=99re in "src/emacs/emacs-27/lisp/abbrev.e=
l",
> and a "src/emacs/emacs-28/lisp/abbrev.el" file exists, it=E2=80=99s now
> defined as a sibling.
>
> Looks very similar to the project command.
It doesn't always have to be something like that though. My sibling
rule maps
XXX/something.com
to
XXX/log/something.log, and XXX/something.log.
If I found a project-find-sibling-file command, I would expect it to
return the siblings of XXX/something.com that reside in the same project
as XXX/something.com, whereas project-find-matching-file does something
else entirely.
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On 03/04/2025 20:45, Juri Linkov wrote: > There are many project commands that represent their global counterparts > with the prefix 'project-' added to their command names like > 'project-find-file' and 'find-file'. > > However, there is one new command that doesn't correspond to its global sibling: > 'project-find-matching-file' has no binding, so every time I have to manually Not sure if the current name is ideal, certainly. > type its name, and after unsuccessfully trying 'M-x project-find-sibling-file' > I need to spend time reading project.el to find the name of the new command, > because it has a name different from the global command 'find-sibling-file'. > > Therefore, I propose to rename 'project-find-matching-file' to 'project-find-sibling-file'. But is 'find-sibling-name' its proper counterpart? That one looks for files named similarly but not exactly same, residing in the same directory, or nearby directories. Often with different contents. Whereas the current project-find-matching-file looks for files with equal relative names (and usually similar contents) that reside in two distinct directory trees. In a sense, this might be the opposite from 'find-sibling-name'. FWIW, originally I was thinking to call it 'project-find-same-file'. Anyway, opinions welcome.
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Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>:dmitry@HIDDEN, bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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